Why does God allow suffering?

Original URL   Wednesday, January 11, 2023

Transcript

so as was mentioned I chose the topic x

that I wanted to um the Bible up x

and discuss with you tonight on

x

the very tough question and sometimes x

um you know almost taboo topic of why x

does God allow suffering and I did so x

with

x

um the thought in mind of you know a lot x

of the things that your equation has x

been going through in the prayer request x

that we've been getting x

regarding some of the tragedies that you x

guys are are dealing with the Heartbreak x

that everyone's x

working their way through so x

I wanted to try to offer this as a as a x

scriptural help to really kind of get x

back to

x

the nuts and bolts of x

you know looking Beyond just x

the impact that sorrow and suffering can x

have but like x

what's the what's the big picture

x so as we know even though we might be x

sheltered here in America we are acutely x

aware that there is a massive amount of x

distress that is felt all over the globe x

you would agree with me that this x

ongoing pandemic

x

all the news headlines about natural x

disasters

x

we have x

current new threats of terrorism the x

increase of War

x

not to mention economic instability x

that's now making the cost of food at an x

all-time high

x

all these things on a macro level and x

then especially down to a personal level x

of dealing with

x

anxiety

x

living with depression

x

perhaps living with a disability x

or stress over money stress over family x

issues x

we almost feel some sense of x

hopelessness

x

as we see how the world is falling apart x

and that there are so few answers to be x

had sometimes

x

and as I mentioned I asked brother Nate x

if this topic might be appropriate or x

perhaps even a bit too much because I x

know that your Ecclesia is going through

x um x

just it feels like trial after trial

x I know that there's an immense amount of x

prayer that needs to continue to be had x

for the families that you mentioned and x

individuals that you mentioned x

and we do pray that our God hears these x

prayers and allows his angels to answer x

them swiftly to intervene

x from my own experience when you start x

exchanging stories between ecclesias x

about who's on your prayer list and x

um you start learning about other people x

that you didn't even x

know needed to be included in prayers x

it can get x

pretty harrowing pretty quickly

x

um

x

when you comprehend the consequences of x

some of these requests x

um you know particularly I believe x brother x

Tom Cannon

x

just how much

x

lives both can and will change just in x

an instant and it can make your heart x

sink in your chest

x

crying out for answers

x

and it feels like these days if it's not x

something that's

x

particularly impacting us x

then it's something else that's too x

close to home I Know Myself personally

x

um back in the spring with the Uvalde x

shootings that was something that really x

really struck a chord to me because I x

was still teaching at the time and

x um x

just feeling for what that school must x

have been going through

x every week we keep hearing about more x

mental health related suicides

x more mass shootings

x the key word behind all of it is x

suffering

x

human suffering

x we might have a tough time dealing with x

this accepting why is it that people x

have to go through such affliction

x

what good is it doing

x um x

I think the question that can come to x

most people's minds is that cliche why x

do bad things happen to good people x

I think that this question in particular x

has driven people both Believers and x

non-believers alike into three different x

camps

x

so I think there's really three x

different ways that people have chosen x

to try to answer this question

x

and that's what I've got on the screen x

at the moment x

the first is to just x

flat out say that there is no God x

that we just suffer for no reason

x

that the events that unfold in our x

personal lives as well as to nations in x

general are just random chaos x

and that's like the heartbreaking x

equivalent of saying you know what I'm x

really sorry that your daughter was x

killed by a drunk driver

x

I'm really sorry that your country is x

running out of clean water

x

tough luck

x the second view would at least x

acknowledge

x

that there is a Divine something

x

that created the world and its x

inhabitants but that now events would x

just unfold on their own

x

um much like a clock that's been wound x

up and is now just ticking away

x

once again this kind of answer would say x

that we just suffer for no reason x

there's nothing to stop it there's no x

hope of intervention

x

so obviously the third point of view x

that I'd like to express this evening is x

what I hope most of us believe in that x

there is a personal and involved x

God

x

that both created this Earth and still x

controls it still intervenes in this x

world but yet

x

we still suffer

x

so then there has to be a reason for it

x I think the first step in understanding x

why God allows suffering begins with x

understanding and perhaps accepting as x

well our position before him

x

the Bible tells us that we are but dust

x

that our egos need to be left behind

x

we were not created to be waited on hand x

and foot but in turn we were made to x

serve him and to give him the glory

x

it says as as uh hopefully you can see x

on the screen in Isaiah 64 verse 8 x

but now oh Lord you are our father we x

are your clay x

you are our Potter x

and we are all the work of your hand

x

and on a similar note in Romans 9 x . what ill what is molded say to its x

motor why have you made me like this has x

the Potter no right over the clay

x

I think that something we're all x

familiar with and hopefully

x um x

you know something we can accept

x and another obvious thing that I believe x

needs to be said right off the bat is x

that a hard burden of Affliction is not

x

our Maker's fault as some would x

carelessly suggest is in fact our own x

the Bible also tells us this x

that the suffering that we understand is x a direct x

correlation so the consequences of our x

own sin

x

that in the beginning x

God did create the Garden of Eden as a x

paradise

x with x

the most ideal conditions there was no x

disease no injury no disaster no crime x

no pollution these things did not exist x

we did not understand stress

x

violence death

x

they were not experienced by mankind

x God said that he saw everything that he x

made and behold it was very good

x

we know that Adam and Eve's Disobedience x

introduced

x

uh a separation x

between us and our master x

from them being so easily persuaded away x

from obeying God they chose to change x

things

x mankind

x

no longer dwelling in harmony with God's x

laws we have Disobedience and affliction x

introduced to our human experience and I x

think most of us would probably also x

agree that it if it were not Adam and x Eve x

it would have been us it would have been x

myself making those same poor decisions x

thinking of x

the lust the eyes the lust of the fresh x

the pride of life

x Yahweh fairly told them x

in Genesis 2 verses 16 and 17. x

that the consequence of their x

Disobedience would be death

x

says you may surely eat of every tree of x

the garden but of the tree of the x

knowledge of Good and Evil x

you shall not eat for in the day that x

you eat of it you shall surely die

x so today

x

is the result of that 6 000 years of x

Disobedience willful Rebellion against x God x

so it's clearly evident why this x

existence of suffering is something x

that's so entrenched in our existence x

that it's so Perpetual that even though x

we have your babies and young children x

that have not chosen yet to disobey God

x

born in them is a nature to even x

disobey parents just because x

that's that's the the downfall of the x

flesh

x

this is the long-term effect of being x

removed from righteousness

x

and if you went back to our three x

answers and you went back to answer x

number one and you said well you know x

there is no God and we just x

we just suffer random once again there's x

no hope then there's no intervention and x

if you say again that answer number two x

there has been a Divine creation but x

that was just at the beginning x

things just almost go like a clock now x

once again we're looking for what is x

that answer of why is there suffering is x

there any reason behind it

x it's interesting to note also

x that it says that God does not force us x

to act against his will x

that displeases his righteous character x

he would wish that we would fear his x name x

and in fact the scriptures indicate that x

mankind is generally determined to x

oppose the wisdom of God

x

in Ecclesiastes 8 and 11 it says

x

because the sentence against an evil x

deed is not executed speedily

x

the heart of the children of man is x

fully set to do evil

x

and in chapter 9 verse 2 x

it is the same for all x

since the same event happens both to the x

righteous and the wicked x

to the Good and Evil x

the hearts of the children of man are x

full of evil and Madness is in their x

hearts where they lived

x

and after that

x

they go to the Grave

x

so I lay these things out x

really really just to push the issue

x why should we question the presence of x

evil and suffering x

when Humanity x

we're told despises the very means of x

its solution which is to obey God

x all the horrible things around us that x

we could point to famine War disease

x

these are all a result of Mankind's x

greed

x

are

x

insatiable appetite to please ourselves x

the lust of the eyes and flesh

x mankind given the responsibility to x

write its own destiny has just brought x

us to this point x

which is ignoring the Bible ignoring the x

advice of God ignoring

x

her recognization of a Creator and a x

need to respond to that creator

x

so

x

this would then be a fair time I think x

to insert the tough question

x

well if that's the case

x

why doesn't God intervene x

if God is truly benevolent if he truly x

loves us

x

if there is a reason why is he let it go x

so bad

x I think there is um

x

there's a point in emphasizing x

some say that God could remove all these x

Dreadful circumstances from our our x

Earth from our existence and he could x

he could there there's power in x

admitting that brothers and sisters we x

believe in a god that is able

x

that is able to

x

end all things in a moment and he does x

allow

x

suffering to continue

x but we know that if God came in and x

fixed everything

x

that we had wronged they would just x

validate the mischief and sin x

that we would get up to

x

God has told us from the beginning he x

hasn't purposed he wants to accomplish x

with us which is to fill the whole Earth x

with the knowledge of his glory and to x

produce a people for his own name a x

people that are called out to represent x

him

x so I think it stands to make a point x that x

we should be thankful that our God does x

not change that he is righteous he is x right x

he stands by that same principle x

throughout time he does not Bend our x

circumstances but it's that we should x

bend to his x

even to the point of being humbled even x

to the point of being broken

x um x

there's a number of different scriptural x

characters that we'll reference

x um x

the Apostle Paul x

job as well

x the honest truth is that without x

suffering

x

we would not then know the relief of the x

mercy and love of God

x

it's an understandable point to say you x

know without a in a perfect world you x

wouldn't see a need for God

x

if there was not trouble and discomfort x

we would not cry out for him we would x

not cry for help we would not ask for x

guidance we would not seek answers to x

these things

x if there was not Affliction we would not x

have any need to draw close to a god x

that we saw any need of

x

and that's unfortunately where you've x

got people who've answered those three x

questions with the answers of number one x

and number two assuming that x

if there is no

x

Divine creator that is intervening on x

their behalf

x

then they just look past any hope of x

ending reflection

x

and that's the exact problem with what x

happened with Sodom and Gomorrah the x

days of Noah it's the humanistic x

thinking that well

x

you just live for it today eat

x

drink

x

be merry x

and one day you'll die

x

and people I guess just accept x

suffering is just

x part of that existence

x something I wanted to

x

bring up x this is a little bit of different x

thought that I had

x let me pull this screen up for you guys

x this just came to me recently but I was x

thinking about the instance of when x

Jesus healed the man who was lowered in x

through the roof this is one of my x

favorite x

um healings because of how unique it was x

for a lot of different circumstances but x

you'll note that this is the only person x

that received technically two different x

blessings from Jesus he famously forgave x

his sins which then shocked the room but x

then he also to prove that he had the x

power to forgive sins insisted that he x

would also heal the Man's legs and he x

gave him that healing as an additional x

I think it's important to note here that x

was not part of the original plan

x presumably

x

Jesus only sought

x

to forgive what he felt this man needed x

the most in order to better his life and x

to return closer to his God which was to x

forgive his sins x

Jesus did not intend to heal this man's x

physical calamity x

something that most people would assume x

was his main point of suffering

x presumably

x Jesus would have left the man lame if x

not for the murmuring of the Pharisees x

who questioned him

x

it reminds me of a similar circumstance x

with Paul

x in second Corinthians 12 Paul mentions

x

praying for his Affliction to be removed x

from him multiple times

x but yet it was it wasn't

x

and in both instances the fact that x

Jesus presumably would have left this x

man with his physical x

um disability

x

as well as somebody like Paul x

praying that a simple bodily Affliction x

would be removed from him

x

and in both instances

x it was going to be allowed to remain

x

that might be a little bit of an insight x

to us into how

x

and why

x

God sometimes has the ability x

to reverse the situation but chooses not x

to

x

Paul writes in that reference from x

second Corinthians 12. x

starting at verse 7 through verse 10. x

so to keep me from becoming conceited

x

because of the surpassing greatness of x

the revelations a thorn was given me in x the flesh x

messenger of Satan to harass me to keep x

me from becoming conceited and three x times x

I pleaded with the Lord about this that x

it should leave me but he said x

my grace is sufficient for you for my x

power is made perfect in weakness x

and so therefore x

I will boast all the more gladly of my x

weakness so that the power of Christ May x

rest upon me

x

for the sake of Christ then

x

I am content with weakness I'm content x

with insults

x

hardships I'm content with persecutions x

I'm content with calamities because it x

is when I am weak then I am truly strong

x but it's when we see I think suffering x

especially suffering that we feel is x

undeserved from people that we're close x to that x

we always wish that it goes away we x

always wish that our our you know x

prayers are heard

x I think it can be brothers and sisters x

one of the hardest things to square away x

in your mind when you pray fervently x

for someone to be healed

x

especially if it's drawn out over a long x

time

x

and then it doesn't happen

x

and people can fairly question

x why weren't our prayers answered

x did did we not pray enough

x

why is it that some people recover

x

and then we see others only get worse

x foreign

x

we are very prideful as humans

x

we get very uncomfortable when we feel x

weak

x

when we feel that we don't have the x

control over a situation and I think if x

we get angry about this very easily we x

despise

x

an awareness of being limited we despise x

feeling weak

x we say

x

How could a merciful god let this happen

x

how am I supposed to trust God if if x

grief and suffering remain in my life if x

I continue to have to deal with this x

burden

x people say

x

God has abandoned me

x

so I'll abandon him

x

and people Curse God in their heart

x we make an enemy of our own maker

x but yet all these things don't do x

anything to take away the pain

x that doesn't stop a loved one from dying x

that doesn't blunt regret

x people will leave the thought of God x

behind

x because they despise the idea of being x

left in our weakness

x

such as Paul was asked to do

x remain without

x

full capabilities have no control

x

feeling like they're being made to x

suffer and that the fact that there x

could possibly be a reason for it but x

that is not being shown that's how x

people come to think that there is no x

God and that we just suffer for no x

reason

x and I don't mean to be cheap when I say x

this but some people x

want the crown but are unwilling to x

carry the cross

x

some people want to be glorified with x

Christ but are unwilling to suffer with x

him

x we're told though that key verse from x

second Corinthians 12 it is through x

weakness that God shows his glory in us x

our ability to trust in him and let go x

and and allow ourselves to be limited x

and to be weakened to be vulnerable it x

is in our sufferings

x

that the love of God is made perfect

x that he's willing to take all these x

things away if we trust him if we show x

our faith

x but of course I say that x

fully aware x

that

x

it is a really sad thing when

x

righteous men and women

x

especially ones that are close brothers x

and sisters close family x

it is tremendously sad when we're seeing x

them subjected to tremendous grief

x

trials burdens that we feel that even x

they cannot bear

x as I mentioned in the beginning I'm sure x

even Beyond this past couple weeks I'm x

sure many of us that our lives have x

known faithful loved ones

x

who went through very tough times x

despite their love of God if maybe it x

frustrated us

x that's okay it is okay to be frustrated x

and be upset it is okay to question God

x why should Yahweh permit even his own x

beloved people who he has called x

to still suffer the effects of evil

x actually I just want to check in because x

I'm not looking at my zoom screen

x

can everyone still hear me and see my x

screen okay

x

everything looks great okay we can hear x

you just fine thank you

x so

x

one of the big things I think hopefully x

most of you know and I assume because x

this is what you were just talking about x

before we started our class but the job x

phenomenon is one of the key pieces of x

understanding the role of suffering for x

a believer

x a lot of the times it's for someone's x

development it could be your own x

personal Spiritual Development x

it could also be a way to help others x

understand the reason for suffering

x

you can't go over the concept of x

suffering without mentioning job he's x

the poster child for it despite having x

that righteous attitude

x the very first first of the very first x

chapter his introduction x

describes him as a man that was x

blameless

x

and upright he was a man who feared God x

he turned away from evil x

and you would think that surely of all x people x

he would be protected by the God that he x

served from the experience of suffering x

but Yahweh saw x

that there would actually be benefits x

gained by job personally

x

and by those like him in every x

generation after x

if in that moment he were indeed tested

x job wisely did not condemn his Lord for x

his anguish x

recognizing that all he possessed x

came from God originally and belonged to x

him

x

famously it says in Job 1 21-22 he said

x

excuse me x

naked I came from my mother's womb

x

naked shall I return

x

the lord gave

x

and the Lord is taken away x

and all these things blessed be the name x

of the Lord

x

and we're told that in all this job did x

not send a did not charge god with wrong

x okay

x

there's another interesting x

Bible character that came to me recently x

thinking about this aspect and that's x

Jacob

x Jacob had a very tumultuous life for a x

lot of different reasons but when I x

think about his suffering I think x

primarily about x

losing his son Joseph

x

it caused him such grief

x

broke his heart

x

because Joseph was his favorite son

x would it have been better in any x

circumstance for him to instead lose x

one of the other 12. x one of the other 12 that was born to one x

of the handmaids and not to Rachel one x

of the other 12 that he very clearly x

loved less than Joseph

x

we know that it caused a great amount of x

animosity between the family x

to the point that the brothers wanted to x

kill and get rid of Joseph because of x

their Envy because of the emotional x

damage and Trauma that clearly they x

suffered from understanding that their x

father loved them less than he loved x

Joseph

x from Joseph's sorry from Jacob's x perspective x

losing his favorite son x

caused the most amount of suffering than x

it would have the others x

but from God's perspective

x any x

son lost x

should be cause for tremendous suffering

x

would it have really been better x

just hypothetically but just want to put x

this thought out there

x would it have really been better that he x

instead lost x

Reuben or Judah or Simeon

x

and then perhaps not been as upset x

because well thankfully still got Joseph

x

that's not the kind of heart that our x

Lord wants to create in US

x God cherishes all of his children x

equally life is precious to our God

x

and perhaps this is the hardest lesson x

to handle we asked the question the x

cliche the cliche question x

why do bad things happen to good people x

but

x

the parallel concept

x

you could say why do good things happen x

to bad people

x there's something wrong with that kind x

of mindset x

and this is why I I think it included x

this as part of the teaser and this has x

been something I've been thinking about x

in the past couple years

x

we should not want for only good things x

to happen to good people

x

because the inverse is not glorifying x

God whatsoever we should not want for x

only good things to happen to good x

people and only bad things to happen to x

the bad people because where is that any x

salvation

x

then for those who we feel are bad x

or those who were less fortunate those x

who've been mistreated those who've x

never had the good things in the first x

place

x

one of the x

very impactful things you learn from x

being a teacher is that

x

you can't punish a bad child

x

because a lot of the reasons that x

they're probably already acting out is x

because they've been neglected because x

they need positive reinforcement

x there is a quote that is such a true x

quote and they'd say it every year which x

is the kids that are hardest to love are x

the ones that need love the most

x okay

x so it's important sometimes for us to x

take a step outside of our own thought x

about suffering and think about x

we shouldn't wish that

x

we don't have to deal with the suffering x

so that someone else has to

x

because

x it's not that anyone else deserves the x

suffering more than us

x I'll give you an example

x it can be easier I find this is just x

pure I'm emitting this myself it can be x

easier to tune out the horrific news I x

hear about places that I'll never go x

or people that I might already look down x

on

x

it's easier for me to tune out suffering x

when I hear about another famine in x

Africa

x

or another news clip about a drive-by x

drug shooting in downtown Philly

x I could just say well x

that's just how it is they must just be x

in that position due to some bad x

decisions x

that's what you get

x but then

x

how does God feel about that suffering x

that Affliction that loss of life

x

we wanted to be different to God when x

it's our own precious child that has x

cancer we're looking for answers

x

why should

x

why should my family suffer why should x

my my innocent child you know be x

diagnosed with cancer

x

well in God's eyes

x

yes you and your family are just as x

precious as that poor family that

x

lost someone to a drive-by drug shooting

x

or that Village in Africa that's x

still running out of food

x along those same lines

x to God

x

Judas was just as cherished as Jesus was

x

of course Jesus was his own beloved Son x

who did no wrong and Judas betrayed him

x

but it's important to take a step back x

and say that death is not something that x

is pleasing x

to the god of life

x

Our God that we Love Takes no pleasure x

in our suffering

x

what he does look for

x

his hearts that acknowledge

x

how limited we are

x

how thankful we are x

that when things are plentiful and when x

things do go well in our life when we do x

have joy

x that we trust him

x God wants us to trust him

x holy and not necessarily that we should x

be willing to lose all things

x

but that in faith that he will provide x for us x

no matter what Affliction we may be x

going through

x

that it will be enough

x just another example from scripture is x

the Widow of Zarephath from First Kings x

17. x the Prophet Elijah comes across a widow x

and her son x

who we come to understand have been in x

such a state of Affliction that they've x

been starving to death x

she literally has just enough x

food

x

for what she says she assumes will be x

their last meal

x

and after that she proclaims that she x

expects to die

x through God

x

Elijah makes it so that the jars of x

flour and oil x

that the cake was made from never run x

out

x so coming from their moment of x

desperation

x

God teaches this family to trust and x

have faith that even at the point of x

having such intense suffering x

he can still through weakness show his x

love and Glory

x well that son of her still died x

that Widow

x

still did lose her son

x

but once again God by his Mercy through x Elijah x

raised him back to life

x

the point being that she still had to x

experience that suffering that fear x

perhaps that worst fear she could have x

ever had having already lost her husband x

losing her own son

x but nothing is beyond the power of our x

God

x when we lose something x

or someone

x

dear to us it'll always hurt more to x

look inwardly to dwell on what I have x

lost

x

it will always be harder to think x

outwardly and think of the rest of the x

world around us and have empathy

x

say man you know I may have just

x

lost a dear family member who suffered x

for a long time but

x

man others must have also lost someone x

as well this must be so hard for all of x

us

x

I think there's a lot of healing that x

can go into looking Beyond ourselves and x

thinking of a general need for the x

return of Christ x

and to ask God to to implore God x

to help us have whatever it is that we x

need to carry on

x again it can hurt to dwell on

x who x

or what we have lost

x

but some of us some people have never x

even had those same blessings at all

x we have people in our Collegiate who x

throughout the course of their life have x

developed crippling disabilities that x

now leave them as basic prisoners inside x

their own bodies

x you hear about x

children who are born to drug addicted x

mothers

x work in the school system long enough x

you'll see plenty of broken families

x it may be hard to hear but any blessing x

you have is a blessing blessings are x

blessings having healthy family members x

clean food safety and shelter these are x

things to be praising God for x

recognizing there are people around the x

world that don't even have these things x that x

grow up without any family structure x

grow up without easy access to clean x

food and water

x

grow up knowing that their body is x

severely

x

disabled

x so again there can be a lot of healing x

and just appreciating and praying and x

testifying to God for his Mercy and x

praying that others may have these same x

Comforts may have the same Joy

x so like job

x

we need to be careful that

x

we don't blame our Master for any x

trouble that might come our way because x

it may in fact be x

his means x

of perfecting our character

x the thing that we fear going through the x most x

maybe the thing that's preparing us for x

the greater purpose that he is in store x

for us

x I've been told this before and I like x

reminding people that

x

faith begins

x

at the edge of our comfort zone

x and our moment of Sorrow

x that can end up being your final test of x

faith are you willing to trust God even x

through this x

this last affliction

x for Jesus that was his moment on the x

cross

x to the last test

x so will we rely on God x

to see us through

x

or

x

when suffering comes do we curse the day x

that we are born which is what job's x

friends told him to do

x well the result of job's trial

x

was that by his faithful endurance x

his three friends also came to a x

knowledge and love of the lord and there x

was by his strength it changed not only x

his life but even the lives of those who x

witnessed his great loss

x

this is something that really sticks x

with me because it's something I felt x

like I suffered x

and witnessed firsthand

x

um

x

there's two dear friends of mine years x

ago when I was living in Detroit x

I'm sure you've heard of both of them

x

um Mary bobus and Grant Anderson

x one that eventually lost her Battle of x

cancer

x

and another who survived x

and near fatal car accident x

but will be permanently brain damaged x

until God restores both of them

x and

x

we were completely floored

x

by the tragedies that came upon these x

faithful young believers x

I mean we're all in our young 20s

x but it witnessing it it was by both of x

their tremendous strength and their x

faith in God even through their x

suffering dying from cancer or

x

waking up from a coma

x that

x

God's glory was shown all the more x

brighter because of their faith

x and that's sometimes

x

how suffering can be a greater benefit

x

to the people

x

around them

x based on how the individuals handle it

x

how others perceive it

x

showing that even in your weakness even x

in being limited even in being

x

without answers

x

still having faith testifying that God x

is in control

x long after someone passes that can be x

the lesson that someone learns for the x

rest of their life

x and we're told at the VIN in job 42 x

that his latter end

x

was even more Splendid than his x

beginning

x God blessed him

x

to such a greater extent

x than he even had

x and all these things he recognized that x

it was the Lord who gives and the Lord x

who takes away

x this is a parallel to what Paul tells us x

in Romans 8. x

Paul says I consider that the sufferings x

of this present time are not even worth x

comparing

x

with the glory that will be revealed in x

US

x Paul understood that suffering is part x

of Human Condition it's a key part of x

our trials

x

and in fact it's essential

x

to the aspect of a life in Christ

x second Timothy 2 18 the saying is x

trustworthy for her

x

if we have died with him we will also x

live with him

x

if we endure we will also reign with x

them

x and first Peter x

chapter 2 Peter writes

x

this is a gracious thing

x

that when you're mindful of God

x

one endures sorrows x

while suffering and jostling

x

for what credit is it then if you sin x

and are beaten for it and you endure x

but if when you do good and suffer you x

endure this is a gracious thing in the x

sight of God x

for to this thing you've been called x

because Christ also suffered for you

x

leaving an example said you might follow x

in his steps x

foreign

x as we move towards our conclusion that's x

obviously x

our confidence and our example though he x

did no sin or cause any harm to his x

fellow man Jesus the Christ suffered x

greatly at the hands of evil x

Godless men x

who hated him

x

because his righteousness was a living x

rebuke to their wickedness

x

so of course x

we could say why should a sinless man

x

be subjected to such unwarranted x

suffering and persecution

x

and we are told plainly in Acts chapter x

2 x

it says his death was according to the x

definite plan x

and for knowledge of God x

he

x

had to die he had to die to show

x

that God was righteous in the beginning x

from the very beginning x

for allowing mankind to suffer and die x

for their sin

x Jesus being morally sinless Rose from x

the grave opening the way for us to x

follow his example with the hope of x

eternal life that is free from the bonds x

of affliction

x Our Savior refused

x

excuse me x

refused to conform to the sinful way of x

life surrounding him he now provides for x

us a blueprint on how to stand apart x

from the world

x

even though yes it may bring about x

difficulty yes it may bring about x

persecution

x he gave us a model on how to endure x

through sufferings

x

in order to obtain up our prize our x

crown of righteousness x

even just a hope to see life restored x

and God can and will do those things

x that says we have a high priest who is x

not unable to sympathize with our x

weakness

x one who in every respect has been x tempted x

just like we are yet without sin

x so we know that suffering now

x

prepares us

x we I would never choose to go through x

some of the things that I've talked x

about some of the examples I've given x

and I know a lot of us would agree

x

I have things that I am

x deathly afraid of having to endure fears x

that like well what if this happened in x

my life what if God brought this event x

happened I don't think I could handle x

that I don't think it'd be x

prepared for that

x and the fear of the unknown x

is not something that's ever gonna x

make it not happen

x

but we have confidence in what is known

x

we're told that suffering now

x

in whatever form that may take It x

prepares us for the coming kingdom of x

God

x

and the kingdom of God is x

coming

x so it's important to remember that inner x

moments of suffering

x

for time

x

other people have suffered like this x

other people have said similar trials x

sometimes even much greater trials than x

us

x

and such experiences develop in us the x

human character and the important x

Priestly qualities of empathy

x

compassion

x by which we are strengthened to triumph x

over those difficulties to encourage x

others to do likewise

x

we're told this in second Corinthians 3. x

I'm sorry second Corinthians 1. verses x

three to five

x

where it says blessed be the God and the x

father of our Lord Jesus Christ the x

father of Mercies x

the God of All Comfort x

who comforts us in our Affliction so x

that we may be able to comfort those who x

are in any affliction x

with this comfort with which we x

ourselves are comforted by God

x

for we are to share abundantly in x

Christ's sufferings so that through x

Christ we share abundantly in Comfort x

too

x

foreign

x thing to remember is that

x

when we are at our weakest is when x

God can be at his strongest when we are x

going through our worst suffering x

and without answers is when God is x

working the most directly with us

x we should take comfort in that x

we know that God tells us he'll never x

put us through more than what we can x handle x

even with his own son he was willing to x

send Legions of Angels in a moment's x

notice

x you were never beyond what your God x

believes you can bear

x now say that again

x you are never Beyond

x for your God you created you believes x

you can bear x

he wants us to pray to him

x

to seek that jar of oil and flour that x

somehow will just keep going day by day x

it'll just find a way to keep going

x and that even through death itself

x help us to

x

have that complete faith that

x

life even will be restored

x

and like job x

that our latter end will be even more x

Splendid than the beginning that our

x

the glory that will be revealed in US x

it'll be like nothing

x

now where we are going through now

x perhaps we won't even remember

x so

x

I'll end just with one more tough x

question

x make sure I'm on the right slide

x needless suffering

x

is there such a thing

x I think you say that there's like a x

cliche picture of like you know starving x

children that are just all bones and x

skin

x

does that have to happen

x

is there such a thing as just needless

x

suffering

x I would say no

x

I would say that even by that child that x

you'll never meet

x

by it x

God is showing us

x

showing everyone that something's wrong

x any suffering is meant to wake us up and x

jar us and shock us x

remind us that the condition of the x

earth is out of place

x

and that it keeps getting worse the more x

we're separated from him it's not x

originally meant to be this way x

that's why we need intervention that's x

why answer number three is the only x

answer

x we need God's help

x

whether it is another Refugee crisis I x

mean the times you have to hear about x

these boats of refugees that try to flee x a country x

and then just sink somewhere

x babies that you're x

seeing are born with Incredible x

disabilities

x no that's not needless suffering x

this is just part of the human condition x

and it's meant to

x

have us feel the same shock and agony

x

that we're separated from our master x

there is no earthly solution that can x

change these pitiful things from x

occurring it's a reminder that only when x

God has set up Paradise again while our x

suffering end

x

and all these things even the most x shocking x

they're meant to Humble us to that end

x

to have empathy for our fellow man x

to try to comfort one another

x

to praise God for the blessings we do x

have good health and food

x

but remember that quick fixes in this x

life is all they are they're temporary x

and we need to recognize and reach this x

and testify to this x

that there's a need for a permanent x

change

x

it's one thing to cure a cold

x

to give me a covet booster

x

to even strive to cure cancer it's x

another thing entirely to do away with x

sickness and death altogether and that x

is what God has promised he will do

x First Timothy 2 tells us that it is x

God's desire that all mankind be saved

x

all of us x

that all mankind somehow come to a x

knowledge of his truth

x and by the means that that happens

x

sometimes requires suffering first x

you think of x

the leper

x

the man born blind in John chapter nine x

think of Jairus whose daughter died in x

his arms x

these individuals would have never come x

to Jesus if they were all fine they were x

not without grief if they were not x

severely aware of how limited they were x

It Is by their suffering that they were x

forced to not lean on their own x

understanding and to seek God

x

the same goes for us as well as all x

mankind our heavenly father x

does not want to lose any

x

he is willing x

that none should perish

x so lastly

x

just

x get to my last slide

x sorry

x we know that suffering sets the stage x

for joy

x

it is after x

bitter suffering that salvation tastes x

so sweet

x

and Romans 2 it says to those who by x

patience and well doing seek for Glory x

and Honor and immortality x

he will give eternal life

x

in Isaiah 40 x

but they who wait for the Lord x

shall renew their strength they shall x

Mount up with wings like eagles they x

shall run and not be weary x

they shall walk and not faint

x and in psalm 30. x

for his angers but for a moment

x

his favors for a lifetime

x

weeping may endure for a night but joy x

comes with the morning

x so we should

x

absolutely continue to pray for those x

who suffer x

we do believe that our God

x

his ear is not death that it does not x

hear his arm is not shortened that it x

cannot save

x

we believe our God hears our prayers he x

answers prayers his angels are working x

in our lives

x

the Bible gives us x

numerous accounts of healings and x

miracles that were done on the behalf of x

faithful prayers x

and a reminder to us that we x

should not lose hope x

prayer works there is such a power in x

prayer

x

but

x even if sorrow continues even if trials x

remain this doesn't mean that God is not x

still working in your life

x

we just never know the way or the time x

for the plans that he has in store

x

but this thing we do know

x

the promise of the age to come x

in Revelation 21 x

he will

x

wipe away every tear from their eyes

x Death Shall be no more

x

and there shall never again be Mourning x

nor crying

x

nor pain

x

for the former things that passed away

x so I would leave you with the statement x

that

x

God allows x

suffering

x

so that x

in that day we will truly know the x

unlimited extent of his love