Resurrection

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so I'd like to talk about Resurrection x tonight I I thought um x what an amazing thing that would be x to be raised from the dead x I know x what what an amazing thing that would be x and how that would impact the rest of x your life things could never be the same x after being raised from the dead so I x thought you know what I'm going to do x I'm going to look at all the people in x the Bible who have been raised from the x dead and kind of do like a a postmortem x like a before and after of how they x behave before their resurrection and how x they behaved after their Resurrection x obviously Resurrection is uh is x the the central uh reason for us to have x hope if there was no Resurrection we x would be hopeless I think Paul to the x Corinthians says uh we should be I don't x know how it is exactly but pitied above x all men are most pitiful something like x that if if there is no Resurrection x uh from first Peter uh chapter one x starting in verse three praise be to the x God and father of our Lord Jesus Christ x in his great Mercy he has given us New x Birth into a Living Hope through the x resurrection of Jesus Christ from the x dead x and into an inheritance that can never x perish spoil or fade kept in heaven for x you who through faith are shielded by x God's power until the coming of the x Salvation that is ready to be revealed x in the last time so uh again a x tremendous hope that we have x um and you know I the the one of the x first sets of verses that comes to mind x was was one of the readings that I x suggested as um as pre-worker if you x will before are the class which is uh x Romans six and we think of that at our x baptisms and and the symbolism x of death burial and Resurrection at our x at our baptism and how Paul talks about x the contrast between the way of living x before you were a slave to sin before x and now you're a slave to righteousness x you were a servant uh you were you were x controlled by evil desires you offered x your body uh as an instrument of x wickedness x and then in contrast after our x Resurrection x after we're raised from the dead after x we come up out of the water x we're a new creation x and obviously we we struggle with that x and I think that's we still struggle x with sin and I think we see that uh x where we will see that tonight in the x resurrections x um I'm going to try to do them all I x think it's uh maybe a little bit x ambitious and maybe some of it will be a x little bit redundant so but I'm going to x try to be thorough I haven't timed x myself like Gideon so this is likely to x go two hours x um so I hope you're ready just kidding I x hope we don't go two hours x all right so when I think of x resurrections uh I think of them as in x three separate bins x uh in terms of the types of x resurrections that we see in scripture I x think we see we we see literal x resurrections x um as an example uh obviously our lord x Jesus and and Lazarus Lazarus was dead x we know that he was dead and and he came x to life x then we see figurative resurrections x so uh it's not an instance where x somebody has actually died but it's a x figure of what we see in in Jesus x resurrection and as an example uh you x can probably think of some examples uh x I've got a bunch of them here Noah x coming through the flood x right that family uh was baptized in the x ark in this in the water in the sea x um and raised up into life uh the x Egyptians sorry the the Israelites as x they come out of Egypt uh through the x Dead Sea x um Isaac is another example we'll look x at him Joseph I was in a pit x um you know the Bible uses x um the depths of the sea and pits as x symbols to us of death uh Jeremiah was x another one that was in uh a pit and uh x Sophia actually she's I told her I was x doing Resurrection she said well I can x think of one uh Daniel he was raised out x of a pit he was saved and lifted up to x life so I thought that was pretty good x that Sophia had a suggestion and then x the last type are uh supposed x resurrections x um I'd like to see facial expressions x when I say supposed resurrections so the x uh these are people x uh who went through traumatic events x and came out on the other side of them x alive x um I maybe I I guess to put this in the x common commonly used category they're x queeners I think they may not quite x qualify as literal but at least in x figure x or we can see God's hand in their lives x um x and an example I think of that would x would be somebody like Paul x uh in Acts chapter 14 he was left for x dead x um x I don't know what stoning is like x um x I don't know how anybody could survive x stoning I mean I I obviously no way to x hypothesize about that but Paul rose up x um I it would not surprise me to find x the Paul uh actually was dead after he x was stoned x um I think it's at lystra yeah x um x so those are the um those are the types x of resurrections uh that I think we see x in the Bible and x um I'm going to claim x um that that that Jonah was x actually uh dead in the belly of the x whale I don't know how controversial x that was that is x um and I think x um you know what what got me thinking x about this was reading about Adam x and how he was put into a deep sleep I x started to look at Hebrew and Greek x words and try to make the connection uh x to see if there were any suggestions x that had them really x um was x put to sleep as in his heart stopped x beating or or whatever x um by God to to give x uh rise to Eve x uh I'm not a I'm not a linguist so I x couldn't figure it out but I think at x least in Adam we see x um again a figure of resurrection and x thanks to Brian Lloyd we had a we had a x nice chat um the other day and he he x reminded me about all the connections x between uh Adam and Eve and the x occlusion of Jesus how x how the Ecclesia x came x out of Jesus side x he by his wounds we are healed and we x think of him being x on the cross and x and with the soldier putting the spear x in his side and the blood coming from x him the the Ecclesia could be formed x like Eve was formed from Adam and he and x he rises up as does Adam x um so uh the the resurrections that uh I x count x 11 resurrections x in the Bible x um and in them uh I have counted the x tweeners uh Adam and Paul uh that I just x mentioned x um and I've counted uh let's see eight x others that I think we we know actually x happened and then uh again Jonah I think x I think he died in the belly of the x whale so I I am I'm going to cover his x resurrection so three uh four in the Old x Testament uh that we'll look at besides x Adam x um and then in in the New Testament x we're not going to look at Jesus x resurrection x he's obviously that's the the x resurrection we're not going to look at x that one x it's just too much material x but the other resurrections in the Bible x so Jesus raised three people from the x dead x um x and we we find of uh eudicus being x raised by by Paul and Dorcas uh being x raised by Peter x foreign x and if you have any comments uh please x feel free to interject even if you x disagree with something I say x yeah x so again to Romans 6 x 1-14 that this talks about before and x after uh obeying evil desires x um instead of offering ourselves to God x so that's uh the contrast sin is our x Master God is our instead now God is our x Master before we went under law and now x we're under grace now we are controlled x by righteousness before x we were slaves to sin x so to our first example so again x what I what what I think I what I want x to try to provoke again is the before x and after x uh in Resurrection and our very own x lives x and and I thought it would I thought it x would be helpful it wasn't as it turns x out my study wasn't as helpful as I x thought it would be in terms of showing x contrasts in people's lives x before and after their resurrections I'm x surprised I'm actually disappointed x um that we don't see x a remarkable turn in in these people who x were affected by Resurrection who were x right who were raised from the dead x um again in my opening question uh can x you imagine if you were raised from the x dead how nothing x could be different x um so so we'll start let's start with x Adam x um and so the the before that we know x about Adam is I think uh a little x um we know that he worked the garden and x took care of it God asked him to do that x we know that he named x um the creatures x and we see him sat in the garden with x the with the tree and we assume I think x it's implied because we don't uh we x don't hear about it until Eve x um that he was obedient to God's command x to not take from the fruit x and so so that's the before that's the x before Adam so he's in decent shape he's x doing what God has asked him to do x and then he goes into his deep sleep x um x and then things get rough and so this is x this is so this is the one of the first x ones that I did and I thought x you know after being raised from the x dead Adam is struggling and and we're x struggling too so again after his x resurrection x uh he took from the fruit he he hid from x Yahweh x so x his life after Resurrection x uh x was kind of a contrast to we see to what x we see as Paul's picture of it the ideal x picture of it for us uh in Romans after x our baptism x he he names Eve after x after he's raised from the dead he's x banished x then he fathers his children Cain and x Seth x um it's interesting that it doesn't say x he fathered Abel obviously we know he's x Abel's father but I thought it was kind x of an interesting uh no Mission uh not x mentioned x and and we read about him fathering Seth x and x and Seth being in Adam's likeness and in x Adam's image x and then then we see a bright spot for x Adam I think x um in in Genesis 4 25 where we read x about Adam and Men it says calling on x the name of Yahweh x um so a bright spot for Adam x and there's there's not much more that x we learn about Adam x we learned that he lives uh 130 years x before Seth is born and that he has x other Sons and Daughters he lives 800 x more years after Seth is born and and x then he dies x um one other mention we have of him uh x is by job x where where job mentions Adam hiding x that's kind of a crummy Legacy x um for for Adam x so you know if you put Adam's life in a x nutshell x um x you know I think we see him before x obviously before the fall he's he's x obedient but after his after after sorry x before his resurrection x he's obedient x and again the demarcation I want to try x to make with all these people is the x before and after their Resurrection what x things were like for them x so before his resurrection he was x obedient but afterwards uh Adam has x trouble he does have bright spots x um x but he has trouble x uh next I want to talk about Isaac so x this is uh this is a figurative one we x read about x um Isaac's Resurrection he's raised from x the dead the writer of the Hebrew says x maybe we could just go there really x quick um x Hebrews this is in chapter 11. x and 17 to 19. x for by faith Abraham when God tested him x offered Isaac as a sacrifice he who had x received the promises was about to x sacrifice his one and only son even x though God had said to him it is through x Isaac that your Offspring will be x reckoned Abraham reason that God could x raise the dead and figuratively speaking x he did receive Isaac back from death x and so Isaac is our next x uh Bible figure who's who's raised from x the dead admittedly figuratively x so what do we know about Isaac before x his resurrection x uh Isaac is obedient to his father he x carries the wood uh Abraham asked him to x carry the wood and he and he does x and that's a side of going with Abraham x that's pretty well all that we know x about Isaac before his resurrection x he asks his father about the lamb x um but you know whether he he is x obedient or disobedient we don't know x anything else about Isaac I don't think x before before his resurrection x and in uh in the following verses uh the x following ten verses we see a separation x uh between x Isaac and Abraham they were together uh x in those first few verses uh seven to x nine and then x uh then there's a separation where we x where we read about Abraham x kind of being on his own x um on his own I mean in that he's he's x the active x figure in the account x um x he's the one who I mean he binds his son x he builds the altar he raises his hand x and x um x and so again a separation where it's x where we don't know uh what's happening x without with Isaac x so after Isaac's Resurrection after he's x raised from the dead when when x when Abraham puts the knife down and go x and the angels saves him and lifts him x up x um I suppose it's implied that he goes x with his father x um but we find out just a short bit x later x that Isaac is far from his father x I think Abraham is x in Beersheba and x Isaac is at Kadesh varnia x um x I think even more than that we've we x find that uh x Sarah is even somewhere else so the x family x uh seems separated after x Isaac's Resurrection x so what else after Isaac's Resurrection x he takes he is obedient to his father x um in chapter 24. he takes uh he takes x Rebecca as a wife he doesn't want his x son uh to be married to an a a foreigner x and and Isaac obeys his father x um and then and then Abraham dies so he x and his brother Ishmael Barry x their father x and we see uh Isaac with another Act of x Holiness if you will he prays for his x Barren wife x um Rebecca is Barren and he prays for x her he's obedient to God in x um in not going down into Egypt there's x a famine and he decides uh that he won't x go to Egypt the way the God has x instructed him so he's being faithful x um x and God prospers him x and he calls on God's name x um so Isaac is a man of faith we we can x infer or we read and we can understand x from the scriptures he is he's obeying x his father he struggles a bit uh when x he's I think I think it's at Gerard x um yeah with abimelech when when he's x afraid of of the men uh and what they're x going to do uh to him if he says that's x his wife that he would be killed x so he has a bit of a struggle but after x his resurrection I'm going to say that x that Isaac's life is an example to us of x what we see in Romans 6 x um with a life of obedience we we don't x really see him I think I don't know how x young he is x um when uh when he goes up on the x mountain with with Abraham x um but we don't see as as it were a x conversion of Isaac but we see him x um being a blessing to God nonetheless x after his resurrection x uh and uh so next in the resurrection uh x episodes is x the Widow of Zarephath she has a son x uh we don't know his name x um and I think he's uh a young boy I x think the record tells us that x um he's small enough uh that he can be x carried up and down the stairs x um but we also learned that he's uh he's x home alone x um his mother is out I think yeah she's x at The City Gate Gathering sticks x and may she's getting ready to make her x last meal x um and Elijah comes to this um x he's at x uh he's at the Jordan x being fed by the Ravens x as the as the episode begins and and x Elijah is sent to x um deserafath which by the way uh x zaraphat is a is a place I think where x uh Refinery happened I don't know what x kind of refining was was happening there x um but I think it was a little Refinery x town so this Widow is in the refinery x Town she's she's starving to death she's x going to make her last meal because of x the uh because of the because of the x drought x um x so x maybe we should uh maybe we should go x there first king 17. x [Music] x first king 17. x yeah so we read in in the 17th verse x uh so that this oil uh doesn't run out x she keeps eating and she keeps eating x she the the miracle of the food uh x happens to her but what do we actually x um what do we know about the the sun x um before he dies I think it's very very x little x um he he gets ill sometime no later uh x the son of the woman who owned the house x became ill he grew worse and worse and x finally x he stopped breathing x so x um x so Elijah raises him from the dead x and what do we know about this this is x the struggle that we have in in most of x the Resurrection episodes that we're x going to look at tonight x um is that we don't really have much x else about the Sun what do we hear about x him x um I think we hear nothing and again I x was I was anticipating that in my study x we were going to see these great lessons x from these uh renewed people these x people who have been who have been given x an opportunity uh second opportunity at x life x um of some of the great things that they x did to serve our heavenly father x um x but what we read uh as a result of this x episode I think what we can take away x from this not that there's no takeaways x but there aren't any that we can get x from the sun we get a take away from x from the Widow from his mother x then the woman and this is verse 24 then x the woman said to Elijah now I know that x you are a man of God and that the word x of the Lord from your mouth is the truth x um so again uh nothing else we hear x about the Sun the only thing we hear x about anywhere even remotely connected x to zarifath uh for tire and sidon x um is the the wood that comes x um out during the rebuilding x um x for uh for the temple that's where Ezra x gets the wood out of tire inside and x then zaraphat is just between there but x but nothing uh that we learn about uh x Tire inside of x um like oh this boy uh had this great x life and here's the effect he had on the x community x um we just don't read about that x um one one other impact x uh that this Resurrection has x is to convict the people of Nazareth x um x you might remember Jesus mentioning x um the resurrection of the this widow's x son x um when he starts his ministry x um he he indicates that he's the one x that x um that God has promised and the people x uh you know they they reject him and in x verse actually it's Luke chapter four uh x after Jesus makes this claim and points x to them uh points them to this Widow and x her son being raised as x as a signal x um they they want to kill Jesus x so that's what we learned from the woman x the Widow through that seraphim x a a conviction that Jesus is the Christ x uh that that it convicts the x people of Nazareth x uh next Resurrection x um is another another son x um x he this is again another uh young one x this is from second Kings chapter four I x always get these uh episodes confused x but this is a wealthy woman x this is a wealthy woman uh with a son x she's got a husband x um you might remember she's the one that x hosts Elijah he comes through in the x city and and she and her husband host x him x um he's got she's got a room set up for x him x uh sorry did I say Elijah uh that's x because I have Elijah written x yeah it's Elijah and x um x Second Kings Second Kings fourth x and x he wants uh he wants to x he wants to repay the woman for uh the x hospitality that she's shown to him and x and x his servant goes back and he surveys her x he says you know what what can I do for x you and she says she has everything that x she needs uh I think she says she has a x home in in her native land that's all x she could ask for seems like she's quite x satisfied I don't know if anybody has a x different reading of that but that's x what I gather from that she doesn't want x anything he's a wealthy woman x and gehazai is the one who makes the x suggestion for this for this son so x she's she's a barren woman x uh at the time x this is a wealthy but barren woman x she is satisfied she has everything she x needs she doesn't ask for a son x um x but gahey's eyes suggests So eventually x we we learned of the sun uh we we again x very little that we know about this this x person x um he's old enough to go out I think x he's going out to see the Reapers uh to x with his father I think he goes out to x see his father they're they're working x out in the field x um x so they're not that wealthy that the x father has they can sit at home x um but he he's the one that says my head x my head and then he dies x um he come he actually comes back into x the house x um so we know he's not too too old x because he sits on his mother's lap x um but again in my in my in my um quest x for for you know Eureka I found it what x I found this great transition of of a x person who's been raised from the dead x and here's another one another example x where where we don't know much about the x boy before and after x [Music] x um x we we only we only learn x um that he he's raised from the dead and x that's that's pretty well it x um x she goes on the journey she she goes a x far distance right x um 20 miles so the sun is obviously x um uh so he when Elisha gets back to him x um the body is cold of this of this boy x um x and and when Elijah lays on him uh he x warms up and he goes out to be with his x mother x um x the the only connection I have uh x here for for this uh this Resurrection x um is the Widow at name x um who has uh a Sun raise this is a this x is a nameless person x um they they're in the area of Galilee x um x uh this is second uh sorry in the Luke 7 x is uh name yes x but again another anti-climactic x Resurrection x we don't know anything about the effect x of of what's happened to him uh later in x his life x even x less information I think we have from x the next Resurrection was which is x Second Kings 13. uh a nameless man x Elijah's tomb this is where the the the x two men I think are going to bury a x friend the moabite Raiders come and and x they they are afraid and they put the x dead man's body in Elijah's tomb uh and x he comes to life and again we hear x nothing about this man what is the x impact of the Resurrection on you x you know that's the question that I want x to get to x that's the question that Paul x um raises to us as he writes this as he x writes in Romans and and I mentioned x also in the pre-read uh or the x suggestions for a pre-read in Ephesians x are before and after life x um sorry our before x Resurrection Life and our after x Resurrection Life Meaning baptism x Resurrection x there should be a huge huge contrast in x in the way that we're living our lives x there should be a huge change x um and again I'm struggling I'm x struggling uh in these resurrections to x find changes in these people's lives x um hey Jim can I jump in sure yeah great x really great subject very very x interesting x um you know as I hear you talking and x wondering about you know where's the big x change in in these individuals lives x I can't help but like x think of my own life x every night that I go to sleep x and fall asleep and then miraculously x awake in the morning x right yeah and and I think that x I I know but I would imagine Jim x that you know for a lot of people that x were dead it was not like x you know it's it's not like they were x you know ascending to heaven or going x down into Shield to be tortured you know x they were asleep x and to me the impact of these x of these miraculous events was probably x more felt by the loved ones who had lost x a relative a child x and then saw that child raised to life I x mean I just think of you know you and x Katie you know I mean Katie goes you x know into the operating room and is x effectively dead x when Jesus x what'd you say for 81 minutes yeah x and you know x yeah it's hard to talk after saying that x yeah x and and I think x for me the impact of of seeing that x is is is just powerful man x and and whether it's you know somebody x like your your wife and you know our our x friend Katie x or you know the uh the examples of um x you know not actual raisings from the x dead you know like like Isaac but you x know I I think of um x I don't know if Butch is on tonight but x you know like Butch talks about how you x know he sort of walked away for a long x time x and then came back x and it's like to me that's so impactful x for me maybe not for him so much x but it gives me hope it gives me you x know uh Joy x um x and I would and I guess that that's x where I'm going you know you're looking x but but maybe we're looking in the wrong x place when we're expecting you know this x aha moment by the one that's been you x know that that has been miraculously x raised maybe the aha moment is the ones x that witness it and I think that's what x Romans 6 is about right it's it's to x make an impact on us like how has it x changed us to see Jesus raised from the x dead it should give us confidence to x know that we too will be raised x indeed yeah so x all right go ahead x Steve your comment as she lives and x breathes x [Laughter] x I actually agree with you that it x affects other people more so x because for me you know I just went to x sleep x I don't know what's going on everywhere x and then I'm awake x right you know so it's like okay hurry x up just like you say like in the morning x you know you wake up you're like okay x well here I am x you know so I definitely that it's a x good point that it affects other people x more than it might affect yourself x yeah x well young lady you uh being around has x had a huge impact on so many people x thank you I mean x really x you know x thanks Steve I didn't even I didn't x think of that one actually that's kind x of that's kind of shame on me x foreign x well I mean I think that's the point Jim x right I mean sometimes we're so close to x it x yeah sometimes we're so close to it that x we miss it x and you know whether it's like our own x lives x I mean we we miss it when we wake up in x the morning you know new every morning x is a love you know my dad I mean where's x Dad Dad's on you know he's he used to x wake me as a kid you know this is the x day the Lord has made let us rejoice and x be glad of it you know and uh x I can sleep x love you Dad x let me just go back to sleep Dad yeah x let's not replace right now let's x sleep x afternoon x uh So speaking of which x um you know missing the point or the the x resurrection effect being lost on x somebody our next example is Jonah x um x so uh nice segue Steve I by the way I x didn't pay Steve for those of you who x so Jonah before I think his before and x after are pretty similar x so before Jonah runs away he hides he x goes to sleep and uh I think in the x first chapter verse six uh x uh I think it's kind of a foreshadowing x if you will x um where the captain of the ship comes x to Jonah and he says Get Up sleeper x I don't know why I never noticed that x um but that's uh those kind of those x kind of words happen over and over and x over get up sleeper and it's not just x here it's in the in the other accounts x that we're looking at x um x that makes a good wall art right what's x that that would make some good wall art x people stencil all these things in there x in their homes x so um so Jonah has a bright spot uh x while he's on the ship even though he's x running away he does testify to the men x on the ship Yahweh is my God and they x and they they are afraid x um because I think of his convictions x and then Jonah x before his resurrection x before his resurrection he behaves like x Jesus he says put me in the water right x he saves the men on the boat x by sacrificing himself x which I think wow this is backwards x you know Jonah he did more before x uh in terms of x his willingness to be a servant to give x himself up x um he did before x so isn't that an interesting contrast to x how he feels about the ninevites and x maybe that's another lesson for us it's x kind of a side one it's like who do you x you know who are you going to pick x um that it's okay to be saved x um he was okay to save the guys on the x ship but not so much the ninevites x um and yeah right there is they're the x Israelites enemies x um but again we've got to put God's x glasses on and look uh uh our enemies x through through God's lenses as his x children so again the before and after x on Jonah I think uh is about the same he x does not he has he is not aligned with x God's position on saving the ninevites x um x and we learned that in chapter four I x said before God I told you before right x I knew what was going to happen x so just kill me I can't stand it right x that these ninevites are alive x um x you know and and what a lesson that is x to us x um x you know and then also the contrast to x his prayer x he admits x that salvation uh is from our heavenly x father x um he says it uh let's go to Jonah too I x think we're going to spend a little bit x of time in Jonah too what time is it oh x my goodness x I think we're only going to get to Jonah x foreign x numberless in my Preamble I have to x completely change subjects right now x Matthew 27 says x many holy people x came out of the grave x many holy people who knows what happened x to them we don't read anything else x about them other than that they test x testified x um x they appeared to many people x you just you just wonder at what x Jerusalem was like x with those x holy people that they must have been x followers of Jesus or faithful Jews I x don't know which Maybe x maybe both x but when Jesus x died x the curtain was torn the Earth Shook and x the bodies of many holy people came to x life x um just a an amazing I I can't I can't x imagine what it would have been like to x be in Jerusalem at that time sorry for x the Whiplash x um but when I did a time check I just x wanted to see how much of my material x I'm not going to get to x um x so I'm not going to get to that so that x that uh account I am absolutely x fascinated by uh the dead x um the the tombs being broken uh x everything is Disturbed they come out as x whole people I will assume that x and there are no names attached to it no x genealogy attached to it would to me it x reminds me of how we're just going to be x one big huge family in the Kingdom so x the genealogy may not even matter your x last name may not even matter we may be x given new names x um and we won't care about that we will x proudly wear it but x why did that account happen I I I've got x a I've got a feeling that it happened x for Paul x and I think that he when he heard about x it I think he mocked it and he thought x it was some sort of Ruth from uh the x Christians to give them uh validity of x existence and I just wanted to know what x your opinion would be in regards to who x was primarily for x yeah I I haven't thought much about it x pat x um but I you know I think like all of x these x um you know like the like the Widow at x Zarephath her confession now that I know x now I know that the word you're speaking x and God is God's word and it's truth x um I I think that's you know I think x just the same way the Holy Spirit uh was x given for miraculous gifts to to be x evidence x um of the the power and authority that x was given to the early uh the the x apostles x um and the early Believers the early x disciples to to heal in Jesus name to x demonstrate uh this this is uh an act of x God's hand x yeah I would I would agree with that Jim x and and I think that when you were x talking did I think you indicated that x it was likely a um x you know a way for other Christians to x recognize that it was God's hand is that x is that how you described it pat x well that's that's certainly I I I I ca x I can't see it being much else than just x an encouraging thing because it says and x then the way or the church grew in x numbers x uh yeah and I just I it just takes me x right to when x um people are going to be resurrected x here x yeah we've often uh um fantasized about x maybe an arm comes up first and then the x ha the other one and then x we just don't know it could be if he x could make an amoeba if he could create x the resurrection in a in a nanosecond x people and just x they can do what those people did coming x out of the tombs I think it was x multi-purposed but I think primarily for x Paul and he failed the test x at that time perhaps yeah yeah perhaps x but you know the other thing that I x think about is the this idea that if x you do see it with Paul after his x conversion right it says that he went to x Arabia and then he goes to Jerusalem x many years later and goes for the x specific purpose of sort of interviewing x Jesus brother right and and he wants to x make sure like did I really see this did x this really happen I mean did the Risen x Lord appear to me did so tell me your x experience did you see Jesus alive x I mean I think that that was part of it x that it's such an unusual miraculous x event that people would know you know x they would doubt it x and yet if all of a sudden there are all x these many holy people who've been x raised it would just sort of lead x Credence to that to the idea that yeah x something something did happen x thanks for that question Pat x um x so I have a question here are they all x connected to the reward for their x faithfulness x um I'm gonna have to say no because we x we don't really we we don't have x evidence that uh all of these people x um did were faithful uh an example x um x yeah the the the children uh as an x example x um maybe their families were x um but I don't think we have that direct x connection the ability to to say I mean x Jonah was that you just used Jonah as an x example right x you know he wasn't particularly faithful x he was raised from the dead in spite of x his uh yeah yeah x so back to Jonah x um what was the final impact on Joda I'm x gonna refer you to an exhortation by x Brother Peter Davis uh to find the x answer to that question x um but before we leave uh Jonah again x I'm gonna assert that Jonah actually did x die and the last bits of x um x tonight's class I want to spend doing x just a little bit of reading so let's x turn to Jonah's prayer in two uh Jonah x 2. and I'm just going to read that and I x just just uh x so for a person to spend three nights in x the deep in the sea three days and three x nights it is not physically possible to x survive x you might say okay well maybe God buy a x miracle kept Jonah alive but I think x Jonah's words uh strongly suggests that x don't Jonah uh has died in the belly of x the whale x um in my distress I call because of the x words like the pit uh like the word your x Bible might say hell or sheol uh the x Deep x um x the desperate and dark circumstances x that Jonah is in and how he calls on God x and God Saves him x um and particularly uh x chapter three well let me just get to x his prayer I'll just read his prayer in x my distress I call to the Lord and he x answered me from the depths of the Grave x I called for help and you listen to My x Cry you hurled me into the deep into the x very Heart Of The Seas and the currents x swirled about me all your waves and x Breakers swept over me I said I have x been banished from your sight yet again x I will look x yeah I will look again toward your Holy x Temple the engulfing Waters threaten me x the Deep surrounded me seaweed was x wrapped around my head x to the roots of the mountains I sank x down the Earth beneath barred Me In x Forever x but you brought my life up from the pit x O Lord my God when my life was ebbing x away I remembered you Lord and my prayer x Rose to you to your Holy Temple those x who cling to worthless Idols forfeit the x grace that could be theirs but I with a x song of Thanksgiving will sacrifice to x you what I have vowed I will make good x salvation comes from the Lord x and the Lord commanded the fish and I x vomited Jonah on dry ground x and and so we we read again we read uh x the the uh not the prediction I guess x um the foreshadowing of what's going to x happen to Jonah in chapter one with the x captain saying sleeper get up and then x we read from chapter three then the word x of the Lord came to Jonah a second time x go to the great city of nine about a x Proclaim it to the message the message I x give you x Jonah obeyed the word of the Lord x and went to Nineveh so x I think the NIV kind of obscures uh what x happens I think one of the other x versions maybe King James says Jonah x rose up x um x but x but I but we see the language of Jonah x rising up x um to to life after he's in the belly of x the fish x now x another I mean another extremely strong x uh piece that I think we can refer to x when when trying to decide what's x actually happened here is from Jesus uh x himself x and Jesus talks about you know the x Pharisees are asking for a sign and we x know this uh we know this verse but I'm x just going to these verses but I'm going x to just read it again and I want to call x your attention x we have resurrections Jesus talks about x four resurrections I don't think it's x it's a coincidence x um that he mentions the resurrection of x Nineveh and the queen of the South that x those are going to rise up like the son x of man and the the signal of that is x going to be the sign of Jonah the x miracle of Jonah x some of the Pharisees and teachers of x the law said to him teacher we want to x see a miraculous sign from you he x answered a wicked this is sorry Matthew x chapter 12 verse 38. x teacher we want to see a miraculous sign x for you he answered a wicked and x adulterous generation asks for a x miraculous sign but none will be given x it except the sign of the prophet Jonah x for as Jonah was three days and three x nights in the belly of a huge fish so x the son of man will be three days and x three nights in the heart of the earth x he's making a direct comparison x his death x is a parallel to Jonah's death his x resurrection is a parallel to Jonah's x Resurrection x and then he mentions two other x resurrections the men of the of Nineveh x will stand up at the Judgment with his x generation and condemn it for they x repented at the preaching of Jonah and x now won the greater than Jonah is here x and the second one I I guess I missed x this x um I in the episode with x um x the queen of the x the queen of the South actually I'm not x sure who this is now that I think about x this the queen of the South will rise at x the yeah because she's the one who saw x Solomon uh the queen of the South will x rise of the Judgment with this x generation and condemn it for she came x to the ends of the Earth to hear x Solomon's wisdom and now greater than x one greater than Solomon is here so x assuming that she has made her own x repentant turn after hearing uh x Solomon's messages so x so the x another suggestion or another piece that x that helps us uh make the connection is x the impact of the resurrection of these x two men of Jonah and Jesus x so what was the impact or what was the x consequence of the resurrection of Jonah x Jonah lived x to teach x and and rebuke and correct x the city of Nineveh and turn the world x as it were x to God they repented and sackcloth and x Ashes and call on God's name x and that's the same similar impact x that's a precursor impact or a signal x impact to what Jesus impact would be x um which is the Salvation of the Nations x sure x good evening x um first of all I agree with you 100 x there's absolutely no question in my x mind anyway that Jonah was raised from x the dead okay you can stop there well I x can't x I I completely disagree that he was x resurrected I think only one ever x ever because everybody else who's ever x been raised has died x and I think that's why you don't see x much difference in people because there x hasn't been a difference in people since x they were raised the point is they went x Immortal they came out model x for the same creatures the difference x in Jesus is the fact that he has x received the gift of the resurrection of x immortality he is now free from sin he x has been changed he is not the same x creature he was when he died and I think x that's a major difference between him x and every other creature that died they x all came back Mortal lived their lives x and died and then Jonah's prayer x uh I think he made some excellent uh x um points however I kind of wonder if x Jonah even realized he had been dead he x talks about going into the water and x being in the great fish's belly and x being covered in seaweed but he doesn't x really have a say hey I've been dead for x three days but what it does say x just before his prayer is that he and x I'm going off the top of my head because x I'm sorry my goggles on the table he x says that after he was three days in the x great fish's belly then Jonah prayed why x would he wait three days to pray x I think the reason he waited is because x he was dead yeah I don't think he x realized he was out three days now I x know when I had my high surgery I was x out four days x I went in on a Wednesday and I didn't x realize when I woke up it was Saturday x there is absolutely no time passing for x a person who's unconscious x it's a twinkling of an eye as the x scriptures say and to me that is the big x difference so I think you're absolutely x right about Jonah I think it was a sign x just as I think Moses and Elijah were as x well they had a purpose x and I think that purpose is directly uh x pointing towards what you've been x talking about all evening about when the x Son of God comes and the change that is x going to take place thank you Jim x thank you Bob x Bob I I think that's a I think that's a x really interesting point about uh x drawing a distinction between those x who've been raised from the dead and x Jesus being resurrected from the dead x and I I think that on in all the x occasions other than Jesus it it just x uses that expression raised from the x dead it doesn't use the word x Resurrection is that correct you've x never used exception Jesus except in x Jesus case I think I thought the only x one of the bearers are right there yeah x nobody else has been resurrected he's x the first fruits of those who slept and x somebody else been resurrected such as x the Widow's son x then he would have been the first fruits x but he wasn't Jesus was because he x obtained the resurrection nobody else x great point so I'm gonna I'm gonna just x leave you with a challenge to to x demonstrate that one Bob because I'm I'm x not sure that I agree with you x um but I'm not gonna uh yeah I'm gonna x just leave it at that x um x I I do I I do agree x yes that Jonah's obviously Jonah's x raising from the dead and if I if I used x a word that uh didn't fit uh I would I x am meaning to say that all of these x mortals x um experience the same Resurrection x um in that they were raised still mortal x to suffer uh the consequences of sin uh x and death yet again x um until x yes all right x um any other I think we're at time x probably am I overtime I'm overtime x um so is our friend Jim Blake was often x often says uh Jim has just a time check x so uh these pages I will leave for x another day