Overcoming Evil

Class 1: Meeting the Enemy

Original URL   Sunday, May 29, 2022

Transcript

okay well good morning everyone this is x a really a different way uh x to do things on a sunday morning i hope x you'll be patient with me x i want to start off first of all by x saying thank you to everybody that has x given me calls and send me cards and x offer prayers and all that kind of stuff x it's very much x appreciated um x i'm feeling a lot better i'm just x dealing with some headaches other than x that i'm doing pretty darn well so x hopefully um x i'll be back soon x these classes are scheduled to be done x this week and then the week after next x next week i'm slated to be down in x meredith so i'm not sure who's taking my x space in between but x i won't be around next weekend x but x i think this is going to be two classes x it might actually end up being three x we'll have to see how it x unfolds x uh the subject of overcoming evil x the first class is entitled meeting the x enemy x uh let me give you sort of the x background um to how these classes came x to be they actually came to be due to x two uh simultaneous x uh situations that popped up x one was um if you remember last late x last year i don't know if it was x november or december i was teaching a x sunday school class x uh entitled worshipping the king x uh it was about the birth of christ in x the early years of of jesus x and x one of the last classes i did was on the x temptations in the wilderness x and of course when you do the x temptations in the wilderness x satan is going to be there that satan's x going to pop up x now we don't i didn't spend a lot of x time talking about satan uh the x adversary x um x because that gets into a whole other x subject but um and also because we don't x ourselves struggle with the idea of x another supernatural devil x uh we understand that the devil is our x our own human nature x um x and we're gonna talk quite a bit about x about that um in the next couple of x weeks x um but i was asked after the class was x over if i would do a study x on satan and the devil for those who x have family and friends that don't x understand x um the devil um and we all have them um x the vast vast majority of people x um believe x in uh an otherworldly devil in this uh x fallen angel x um x we don't believe it and by the way there x are some other people that don't believe x it too we'll talk a little bit about x about that x as well as we go along x um so i was i was willing to do it but i x have to confess i was a bit hesitant x to do it and the reason why i was a bit x hesitant to do it is because when you x talk to people about x the devil x who don't understand truth x then you start to get into people's x personal um struggles x uh the fact is for people that don't x understand human nature and don't x understand where this evil comes from x in many cases they need x the devil x they need him to explain away the x terrible things that either they've done x or that had been done to them or been x done x to people that they love we all know x that there is a tremendous amount x of evil x and hate and pain in this world x and when you try to you know take the x devil away x as an understanding when people don't x understand where the devil really comes x from x then you're really asking that um uh x something that's very very hard to do to x accept um x that god allows these things to happen x and that there isn't this x this other evil power x um x that they're that they're dealing with x um x and impossible it's very possible that x you could do more harm than good unless x you ex are able to explain to them x uh who the devil really is x you know people just turn you off x they'll just say you know you don't know x what you're talking about x you're ignorant uh to how evil the world x is into the to the to the powers x of this um devil x on the the simultaneous thing that took x place i've mentioned before that i've x been having conversations for a while x with this young man who's a minister of x another church x and the conversations were really x productive he was really willing to x listen to x the truth about x scripture x i told him a lot of different things x that you know we know and believe and he x really didn't have a lot of problem with x most of them for instance i talked about x the fact that jesus wasn't god he had no x problem with that x um x he wasn't sure he believed in the in the x trinity x anyway um you know when we talked about x um x all kinds of different things um that we x know are true x in almost every case he had no issues in x fact he had no issue with the idea that x um that we have a sinful flesh that we x have that we commit our own sins that x we're responsible for our sins x that there is this you know this x propensity to do the wrong thing x until we came to the devil x and then when we came to the devil he x completely shut down x and he basically said you don't know x what you're talking about if you don't x believe that there is an otherworldly x power some supernatural power x um i don't know why that screen popped x up so quickly but that's okay x um a supernatural power uh creating evil x in this world he says yes he would say x yes man sins x but true evil comes from x the devil x and and he really wouldn't x continue the conversation that much x actually most of our conversations kind x of ended after that i don't want to say x he was insincere or any of that kind of x stuff but he was really stuck on this x idea that there has to be a devil in x fact it's interesting uh we did talk x about one passage um that he picked when x we would have conversations he would x pick x uh the passage it's bothering me that x that x screen is up x anyway x um x the passage that he picked was the story x in acts 16 of the girl x uh who was prophesying you know the girl x that that um paul and silas come upon x she just keeps calling them uh servants x of god and finally paul drives x the demon out of her x and it was interesting that he picked x that passage to show that the devil x existed x because i said to him x okay so this girl was possessed by the x devil and he said yes x and i said what about the ephesian men x that were using her were they possessed x by the devil x and he said no they were just acting on x their own x uh evil instincts x and i said okay so first off x did the girl say anything that was wrong x and he said no i said okay i said and x then paul drives out the devil and and x she's better and he said yes i said and x those guys were acting out of their own x instincts he said yes i said but they x got paul and silas arrested and beaten x and possibly even killed x i said so which devil is worse the devil x that drove them their own evil instincts x or the devil that possessed the girl x which paul was able to drive away not to x be seen from again x and he said well in that case it's x actually x uh the men's evil intent x and so i said well then what do we need x the devil for x i said in fact we don't need the devil x and that's pretty much where most of our x conversations end x unfortunately x but he's still willing to talk he's just x not willing to address the devil he x wants to show me x uh how evil the devil is he wants to x show me people who are possessed by uh x terrible evil x i told him i x wasn't really interested in seeing x people possessed by evil i x live it every day in my own heart x i want to tell you a little bit x about my own experience as sort of like x the way most people feel x um about the devil x yeah let me go let me go back a screen x because some reason for some reason my x screen's popped ahead x so so this is this is x uh my experience x of course most of you know i wasn't you x know raised for self and didn't know x anything about x you know x sinful nature and all that kind of stuff x i didn't know anything really about the x bible as i've said before or jesus or x redemption x uh but i knew sin x and i believed in the devil x and this is the reason why i believed in x the devil because i saw myself as a x reasonably x decent x individual who x sometimes did reasonably indecent things x um so i had these x two conflicting voices in my head at x least this is the way i understood it uh x one that told me what i ought to do and x the other reminding of me of what i x wanted to do i mean we all recognize the x picture x of you know the angel on one side and x the devil on the other and this is x really how most people and and myself x included saw how things were because we x do have these conflicts we understand x what right and wrong is x and yet at the same time we have these x inclinations to x you know to protect ourselves or to x defend ourselves or to just lash out x uh at somebody for for hurting us and so x this is really how i x um x this is really how i believed x in things so that's the problem i'm x having okay x um x so it's really easy to believe when x you're told that there are these cosmic x forces uh going on x you know x inside me you know the the the god on x one side and x the devil um x on the other x but at the same time i understood x you know that that i was a sinner you x know i pointed out before that i would x know x you know paul's expression the good that x i would do i do not but the evil that i x i don't want to do that i do x you know as a sinner i would have x understood that passage but i would have x blamed it on the devil i would have said x oh the devil you know this this external x force uh this this fallen angel x uh is the one that's creating this this x problem going on inside my head x and yet paul specifically says x uh attributes it to himself by saying oh x wretched man that i am now of course i x wouldn't have known that verse i x wouldn't have known x the book of romans i wouldn't have even x known paul x but i certainly would have known what it x is x to sin and that's really part of the x struggle x of this um x this otherworldly devil because x most people can still recognize that x with or without the devil they still sin x they still x you know they're still supposedly decent x pers people that sometimes do indecent x things x um x so x so there's this there's this conflict uh x that goes on in the head of somebody x that believes that they're a good person x uh doing doing bad things x and so people will tell you you know x this is just you the way that job's x friends did and you would hear it the x way the way job heard it x and the reason for that is because x we x those who don't understand scripture x those who were raised the way i was x thinks that the scripture is x incomprehensible x you know it's a locked book you need to x have x you know a special calling and special x training and you know multiple years in x the seminary even to be able to you x should need to know latin x uh even to be able to to start to x comprehend you know the the x incredible difficulties there is to x understand x uh x the word of god i x i think i've told the story before of my x friend joe i used to work with this guy x joe he's a wonderful guy x um x but he was talking to me about the bible x one day because he knew i was a bible x student and he said oh i x i tried to read the bible it wasn't it x was x completely incomprehensible didn't make x any sense and i said to him well what x did you read and he said the book of x revelation and i said well joe you don't x start a book from the back i said you x have to start a book x from the beginning but he was already x convinced i you know x i don't i don't know that stuff i don't x understand that stuff it's impossible to x understand and that's that's basically x what we're told you know when we're told x things like mystery and all that and all x that kind of stuff x and so i had always believed and had x always been taught x that the devil was this fallen angel x this x defiant x supernatural x being x that had defied god and had been cast x from heaven x down to earth and i can still to this x day remember the conversations i had x with cindy about it way back before we x were married x um x and i said of course there's x um a devil x um i've seen the picture x there was a picture probably in a x catechism book of uh the devil you know x crawling down the mountain x being cast down from heaven while on the x other side of the mountain jesus was i x was walking up the mountain towards x heaven and unfortunately i couldn't find x the picture because i wanted to show it x but i couldn't find it it must be a x special catholic picture i don't know x um x but but then on top of it you know x you're told that this is what the devil x is and then the way um x the bible is used x uh incorrectly of course is what what x they'll do is they'll give you a verse x if if you need it x they'll give you a verse to show that x that's what it is and so this is one of x the verses uh thou art fallen from x heaven o lucifer son of the morning star x thou cut down to the ground which kids x beacon x um the nations x um so you're shown you know if you need x the verse um x versus to to verify x uh what you believe you know the idea x that the verse is taken out of context x um x is is you know you wouldn't have any x idea x of that x and so really there's two strong reasons x why i would have believed in most people x believe in this idea of a fallen devil x the first is that this idea of good x versus evil is such a prevalent x um x thing taught x both both in churches but also in the x world etc you see it all the time in x movies in books and all that sort of all x that sort of stuff so it's a very x prevalent theme this idea that you know x the world is made up of good and evil x and the good is battling evil and x eventually the good will win but x meanwhile we're so the pawns x in betraying x the second reason why i would have x believed in the idea of a fallen angel x and this idea of good versus evil is x because x why wouldn't it be true x why would those who supposedly knew x these things x tell us what wasn't true x you know x i had had a lot of struggles uh with the x the priests that i grew up knowing x because of their behavior but i didn't x necessarily think their doctrine was x wrong or their beliefs were wrong or x what they were telling us was wrong i x just thought their their x actions were wrong x so why would they tell us something that x that wasn't true well i think really x there's two reasons for that as well the x first is x because they don't know x and the second is because x they don't want to know and this is one x of the lessons that scripture teaches us x consider what x the writer john says at the beginning of x his gospel x he says in the beginning was the word x and the word was with god and the word x was god the same was in the beginning x with god x all things were made by him and without x him was not anything made that was made x in him was life and the life was the x light of men x and the light shineth in the darkness x and the darkness comprehended it no x now the religious learned in john's day x were the pharisees and they they didn't x know any more than the religious leaders x of today x no they don't x understand x uh the word of god x um x my minister friend um when i was talking x to him about different aspects of the x bible especially about how how christ is x so prevalent x uh in the old testament different places x where he shows up x he says to me you know you don't hear x any of this stuff on google x and i was like nah you're not gonna x you're not gonna get x any of this on google x uh because because the world doesn't x know uh what the bible teaches the uh x the light shines in the darkness and the x darkness x comprehends it x not the world doesn't know that what it x doesn't know because it's got this other x belief system x that it does know x that can conveniently explain away x what it refuses to know x and you know jesus picks up on this in x his conversation with nicodemus and he x takes it sort of x to the next level and remember the way x the way light works the way god works is x not x that he picks and chooses whose he x shines upon the light of the sun like x the light of god's word it shines forth x it's whether or not you choose uh to be x in the shed to be in the shadows and so x jesus x said this x he said and this is the condemnation x that light come into came into the world x and men loved darkness rather than light x because their deeds were evil x for everyone that doeth evil hateth the x light now that cometh to the light left x lest his deeds be x reproved and we've shown that even in x the story uh before even in the story of x nicodemus x but the fact is that people don't know x what they don't know because they don't x want to know x right because x the darkness you know it it shines forth x and it exposes you x and if you don't want to be exposed then x you stay in the shadows x um x and this otherworldly devil x that people believe in x allows people to never face the light x because we can always just blame the x darkness that's really what we're doing x when we believe in the devil is we're x blaming the darkness for sin and for x evil and for all the terrible things x um x so our deeds stay evil because they're x never reproved x because we've got the devil to blame x we've got the darkness to plant x but for those who who face the light x something something greater is possible x transformation x is possible look what jesus says in the x very next verse x he says but he that doeth truth x cometh into the light that his deeds may x be made manifest that they are wrought x in god x those that do with truth cometh to the x light x that's just what paul was doing in x romans romans 7 x you know as he says x oh wretched man that i am x who shall save me from this body of x death i thank god through jesus christ x our lord x the body of this death that's mortal x flesh sinful flesh x that's x the true devil which we'll look at at x more x uh x you know and the light is there for x anybody to see you just have to be x willing to believe x and accept what the word of god x says x again the light shines forth x in the darkness that's what it does the x light by the grace of god shines in the x darkness x even the darkness of the devil and it x illuminates everything it touches x touches it doesn't x discriminate the bible that we read is x no different than the bible that anybody x can read we don't have a special x christadelphian bible with a special x language x i'm glad that we don't um you just have x to be willing to come out of the shadows x now in in the case you know with cindy x what she did is she x she said to me well x you say that the angel is a fall x endeavor let this lucifer fell from x heaven and you know you've seen the x picture and there's a bible quote to x prove it but look at the quote look at x the context of the quote x and of course the quote comes from x isaiah 12 verse 4 uh x i'm sorry isaiah 14 verse 12 x and of course the fact that it was from x isaiah 14 12 would have been totally x meaningless to me i wouldn't have x understood what that even was x um but when we talked about it i was x absolutely sure x that lusa was a falling angel x um and cindy said well just read the x chapter x and so we looked at the chapter x and of course it says in chapter 4 x thou shalt take up this proverb x against the king of babylon x how i thought fallen from heaven oh x lucifer x and i was x excuse me x i was really surprised i mean it really x was i was really surprised to find out x that everything i had been told x could be proved almost instantaneously x as a lie x just by looking at the word just by just x by looking at the light and it was x really the first time i ever really did x now this goes way way back x uh long before i really had any interest x at all but i was surprised to find out x that everything that i had been told x wasn't true and it wasn't even difficult x to prove x that it wasn't true it was actually x fairly easy to prove it x and i don't know if that started the x process of me thinking about these x things or not but it definitely caught x me x um by surprise i remember thinking how x could it be x how could be so so clear and obvious and x yet and yet it's what i'd always been x told and what most people um believe x so x then of course what happened is is by x the grace of god i eventually came to x uh understand x um the word of god x and since i've come to know you know the x nature of evil i haven't given a lot of x thought about the idea of a supernatural x devil or x you know this idea of a supernatural x underworld with good reason because it x it doesn't exist x but the devil is x very very real x and it's extremely powerful it just x isn't an external devil or a x supernatural uh being or or even x spiritual there isn't there isn't an x evil x spiritual underworld x the devil is our own x sinful nature that mortal corruptible x nature passed down to us since the time x of adam's transgression x the nature that christ bore as the son x of man x and crucified in his death as the lamb x of god who takes away the sin x of the world x and that we in symbol x crucify by putting on christ in the x waters of baptism like this young man is x doing here x and we do battle with this devil every x day as we try to make god bigger in our x hearts and the devil smaller x and we can change our behavior through x faith in our character through trial x we can't change our nature x our nature won't change until that day x when we are we when we this corruptible x puts on incorruption when this mortal x puts on immortality when we are changed x in the twinkling of an eye x until then our nature will not change x but that doesn't mean we can't change x doesn't mean our behavior can't change x and and if our behavior changes then by x the lord willing our character will x change we will become like christ x who had the same nature yet did no sin x so what we're going to do is we want to x take a look at this supernatural devil x and also the real devil x and and the the key for me in x considering this x uh series of classes was x okay i know there's not a supernatural x devil i understand the devil is my own x sinful nature but x why is it personified x why in scripture is the devil always x giving given passages where it looks x like this is a real x individual consider these uh verses here x just to show us as an example x uh john 1 verse 3 x first john 3 verse 8 x he that committeth sin x is of the devil for the devil sinneth x from the beginning x for this purpose the son of god was x manifested that he might destroy x the works of the devil x now that sounds an awful lot like the x devil is some sort of separate x individual why is it x why is it put that way x in john 8 verse 44 it says ye are of x your father the devil x and the lust of your father ye will do x he was a murderer from the beginning and x bowed not in the truth because there is x no true excuse me there is no truth x in him x it sounds like he's talking about x someone in particular now i know we x understand the devil x but think of people who who believe in x this supernatural devil x and they see these passages not knowing x you know the full truth of scripture x they're going to say to you of course x the devil is real look at how he's put x submit x yourself therefore to god says james x resist the devil and he x will flee from you x and you tell me there is no devil x it says right there he flees he runs x away just like just like satan did after x jesus answered the questions in the in x the wilderness he left for a time x of course there's a devil x ephesians 6 11 says put on the whole x armor of god that ye may be able to x stand x against the wiles x of the devil x the wiles of the devil it sounds like x the actions of an individual x and even in romans 20 it says in the x devil x that deceived them that was cast into x the lake of fire and brimstone where the x beast and the false prophet are x shall be tormented day and night forever x and ever it sounds like somebody x is going to suffer for a long long time x so these you know these quotes x um you know give the you know which is x you know we understand is x personification but why x why isn't why doesn't it say you know x you sit yourself there for god and x resist your own sinful nature x and your own sinful nature will will go x away or why doesn't it say put on the x armor of god that you can stand before x the wiles of your own sinful nature x why is it given this this x personification x um x this devil and i think that's you know a x legitimate question that needs to be x answered so i started you know and i x don't i don't normally uh do this x um you know x i was criticized recently for not x looking at the 120 years of a x chrysadelphian uh doctrine on certain x subjects and i x i don't usually do that i just usually x dive in x and try to figure it out for myself x guilty as charge x um but in this case i i couldn't for x myself answer the question why is the x devil uh personified x and so i went to you know x chrisadelphianvideo.org and i don't know x how many of you use x chrisadelphianvideo.org with x um x the rugby crystal fans in england but x it's a great resource x uh of videos uh that they put together x it's a massive x uh resource of videos and sometimes it's x kind of hard to find your way around x and so i just started looking up you x know videos on the devil and i watched x you know four or five of them x turns out i had a little time on my x hands x um but the one i found that was really x really good that really helped me x understand why the devil was personified x was this one by a brother by the name of x james larson x it's called evolution the devil and the x atonement x um and it's really good it goes quite a x bit into you know theistic evolution and x showing how the theistic evolution x uh doesn't match up with our doctrines x of faith our belief systems about x the devil and about nate about our human x nature and all that kind of stuff x um so it spends a lot of time on x autistic evolution but it's really good x as far as explaining x the personification of the devil x and x the devil's existence in this idea of x the atonement now what he's again what x he's talking about when he says the x devil and he talks quite a bit about the x devil is he's talking about our own x nature x uh that sinful nature that we're all x born into x um not not transgression x not not not the forgiveness of sins but x the eradication of the devil the x eradication of our sinful nature uh on x that day when it is when it is x completely uh removed x so i highly recommend especially if x you're struggling as far as x fully understanding the atonement x it's a two series set of classes and x really the first class x explains everything the second class is x almost just a rehash of of the first x class and i have no idea who x brother james larson is i've never x actually heard of him i think he might x be an unamended brother i'm not sure but x the classes are are exceptional so i x would highly recommend them and they x really x uh x help me understand x why the devil x um is personified and we're going to x talk more about this x um next week but the key reason to x understand why the devil is personified x is twofold first of all because the x devil is powerful x that sinful nature in us x is exceedingly powerful as we know it is x a corrupter of the mind it is the x corrupter of individuals x and though it is a part of who we are x the day is coming when it will be x removed and we will still be there lord x willing x so so one of the reasons that one of the x key reasons that it's personified x is because it's not a permanent part x of the believer x the day will come when when the devil of x that nature x is taken away x and so it's personified remember paul x says now when in romans 7 again x now when i sin it's no longer me sinning x it's sin living in me x so x there's a separateness to the devil x that's why x it's personified and there's a there's a x distinct power to the devil it's ability x to corrupt this corruption of the mind x that's so easy for us uh to fall into x um so that's why it's personified and x we're going to talk about more about his x personification x um x moving forward we'll be stealing x uh liberally from brother james larson x in his take on x the basf but he's x he stole from the basf if you will he x does a lot explaining how the whole the x whole purpose of the basf of our x statement of faith x is to expose x and then show the process of the x elimination of the devil now in the x beasf it doesn't say the word the devil x it says you know sin in the flesh x but it is the devil x it is that evil force within us it's not x a force over here on my right shoulder x it's a force in here in my head x excuse me x um x the world x uh that predominantly believes that x there's a supernatural x and malicious x uh devil x um x it's it's almost the entire entire world x believes in the devil and especially x those x uh that identify themselves as christian x it is the x the dominant uh belief like the trinity x maybe the two most dominant beliefs x in christianity actually i think the x devil is more dominant because there are x religions like the jehovah's witnesses x that uh don't believe in the trinity but x still believe in the supernatural depth x um it's it's it's believed throughout x the world x um but it's not interesting enough it's x not necessarily believed by everybody x and i'll give you an example um i've x told the story of my younger brother x john when i first became chris adelphian x and i was talking to him about religion x and he he x calls himself an agnostic at least he x used to i don't know if he still does x but he used to x um we started talking about x beliefs and he said you know he was like x me he was raised catholic x and he said well first of all i don't x believe that jesus is god i never x believed it uh i don't think i think x that's baloney i said okay x and then he says and i don't believe x that there is this supernatural power x controlling my thoughts x and controlling my actions i think x that's that baloney x and i said you know you're more x christian healthier than you realize i x said it is balloon x but but he wasn't willing to uh to go x the next step x um so so there are people that don't x believe in the devil because they don't x believe that they're being they're being x possessed by by something foreign but x they don't generally associate x themselves with christianity because x christianity teaches that that that's x what's going on even though we know x uh that it's not true and i think in x many respects we are unique x uh in our perspective towards the devil x that's why the basf the the x our statement of faith is so important x uh both for us to to recognize and to x believe in it and to not forget x because the other problem is x sometimes even though we don't believe x in the supernatural devil x what it means to recognize your own x sinful nature x can sometimes be forgotten x and we tend to obsess or we can obsess x on other people's sinful natures x when the most important sinful nature x for us to key upon is our own x like paul says and i know i've said it a x million times jesus christ came into the x world to save sinners of whom i am the x chief because it's my sinful nature x it's my adherence to that sinful nature x my trust in that sinful nature x that will keep me out of the kingdom and x sometimes what we like to do is we we x like to say we have the truth and now we x don't have that nature anymore now we x would never say that x but our actions would say that because x we spend so much time trying to expose x other people's sinful natures without x without dealing with our own you know x getting the splinter out of somebody x else's eye without getting the spike out x of our own eye x that that is a real uh challenge to us x even though we understand x the truth about the devil we almost x recreate x the external devil in our actions x if not in our our belief systems x so it's vital that we x understand x and remember and keep in our hearts what x the devil is x i'll give brother james larson credit x like i said i couldn't x quite figure out why the devil was being x personified x until brother larson reminded me who the x devil was x excuse me i had to some extent forgotten x it or forgotten the importance of x of that doctrine x our faith true faith offers so much more x freedom x from the false religion of the external x devil because x the external devil um x can't change us x right when when the world is made of two x external forces sort of battling each x other with you as the pawn in between x all we can hope for is comfort all we x can hope for is relief x from the idea of the battle between good x and evil there's no transformation right x that's why in these marvel comics in x these dc comics when good defeats evil x just the next episode just brings a x different evil x right because it never goes away x because that's not really what the x battle is you and i x by the grace of god and all those who x who hopefully we can teach who the true x devil is x we have the opportunity for change x personal character change x because we understand who the devil is x and because we understand what god is x doing through his son through the x atonement that we are offered in his son x it's a tremendous tremendous opportunity x for transformation x we're not just you know pawns in a x galactic battle x uh x all the ultimately good triumphs of evil x in that but but that's not x but that's not x the transformation that we're looking x for x we're looking for the transformation x that paul talked about when he said x be not conformed to this world but be x transformed x by the renewing of your mind that's what x happens when you come into the light x that what happens when you face the real x truth about your nature like i say my x friend the minister recognizes that he's x a sinner x but he thinks evil is something greater x than what he has within himself even x though scripture teaches us x that every thoughts of the imagination x of the heart is evil x continually it can be hard to see that x when we look at the evil around us to x say oh that's being driven by the same x nature by the same sinful nature that x drives me x but that's the truth that's the x transformation or the renewal of the x mind x and what we find is that we prove what x is the good and acceptable and perfect x will of god just like it says in john 3 x that your works are rot x of god x in in x um x brother ritual like this in the war of x 1812 there was an american naval x commander x the commander's name was oliver perry x and he was fighting a x naval battle on lake erie which seems x bizarre to consider today but he was x he's fighting the british x and he won the battle x and he sent a message back to x the commanders of the american army x uh that they had won x and the expression that he uses became a x very very famous quote he said we have x met the enemy x and they are ours x and that became a famous quote well x about x 120 years later x there was a x american cartoonist by the name of walt x kelly x he used to write a comic strip by the x name of pogo x some of you might remember x pogo x some of you have never heard of pogo x most of you probably have never heard of x walter kelly x and some of you don't know what a comic x strip is anymore i don't even know if x they have comic strips x uh anymore but pogo was a pretty uh x well-known comic strip uh back in the x 40s and 50s and it was even around when x i was a kid probably in x uh in uh remake because i think he was x gone by that x but what this guy walter kelly is did is x he picked up on that famous quote from x oliver perry x uh and what he said was this and he was x talking about pollution x he said we have met the enemy x and he is us x and what kelly was talking about was the x pollution in the world that we are the x creators x of the disaster that was happening in x the world as far as pollution that still x happens uh today x but it's it's a quote that is very very x befitting of the true devil that we have x met the enemy and he is us x because the true devil is a polluter of x the mind x and so x our theme is going to be recognized what x does it mean x that we have met the enemy x and he is us x and that will be for the next class and x the next class what we'll talk about x is x uh what what the world was like at the x beginning x and then x both how the true devil came to be uh x with adam's fall x and how the false devil came to be x uh this belief in this supernatural x devil and the idea that we are good x people that sometimes do x bad things i think we can directly x uh x we can directly show an incident x that that happened that created that x whole process of this supernatural devil x and this battle in the world between x good and evil

Class 2: The Origin of the Enemy

Original URL   Sunday, June 12, 2022

Transcript

um so this morning we want to talk about x the origins of the enemy x um x well basically you want to talk about x where the sin in the devil comes from x uh x before we do that though you know i x haven't spoke x the title is overcoming evil and i x haven't really talked all that much x about evil itself and we're going to get x you know as we go along into the depth x of evil that's really on the key essence x is try to understand that x how how evil evil is if you remember a x couple weeks ago i was talking about my x minister friend who said i didn't x understand evil x um x because it is it is too deep x uh for human capacity it has to be x something supernatural x now we know that's we know that's not x true we understand you know x from the very beginning that evil has x been there uh the devil was a murderer x from the beginning as it says x uh talking about cain x but what we can do often times is we can x downplay x the level of evil and then be shocked x by how evil evil is x and that's what we want to try to x come come to grips with and it's x certainly not difficult to be shocked i x mean x how can you not be shocked by somebody x walking into a grammar school and you x know killing hundreds of innocent x children or however many doesn't make a x difference how many how can you not be x shocked by that x and yet it shouldn't shock us that evil x is as evil as it is uh so we are going x to uh good morning x class starts at 10 30 just so you know x [Laughter] x yeah yeah we got plenty of time x um x but uh sister hannah actually sent me x some things on evil and i want to show x them because they're wonderful little uh x pieces about evil and we want to keep x these things in mind as we move forward x because it also plays a part in both the x devil and in sin and all of that so x these are some things that she sent me x that are really interesting and it talks x about evil x it says is that come up oh good nice x at first it might seem that if god x created all things then evil must have x been created by god however evil is not x a thing i love that statement and we'll x talk about a little more when we think x about however evil is not a thing like a x rock or electricity you cannot x have a jar of evil x evil has no existence of its own it's it x is really the absence of good x for examples holes are real but they x only exist in something else we call the x absence of dirt a whole x but it cannot be separated from the dirt x that's a x marvelous statement as well so evil is x not a thing uh one of the things that x we've talked about is personification x you know the devil is not a thing x it's a personification of something but x it's not a thing in and of it in and of x itself because the world we live in x believes the devil is is the thing it's x it's a person it's a it's an it's a x fallen angel or it's x it's you know something outside of x uh existing within x something else so so evil itself is not x a thing x uh and i think that's i think that's a x great statement x but notice it's the absence of good it's x not the lessening x of good right god is light x right and remember what what what uh the x gospel of john says in john 3 it said x men preferred darkness because their x deeds were evil x so so it's the absence of good not the x lessening of good you and i have gray x areas between us because we're sinners x there's no gray area with god everything x is is black and white uh and evil is the x absence x of god x it says perhaps a further illustration x will help if a person is asked how cold x uh does cold exist the answer would x likely be yes however this is incorrect x cold cold does not exist cold is the x absence x of heat x similarly darkness does not exist it is x the absence of light evil is the absence x of good or better evil is the absence of x god keep that in mind definitely x especially when we get into the point of x where this other worldly devil comes x from it's the absence of god god's not x there x god did not have to create either evil x but rather only allow for the absence of x good that actually made me think of that x final battle after a thousand years x right where god literally says he steps x back and as soon as he steps back x in comes evil x again so it's the absence of god god x takes himself out of the picture and x then immediately evil takes over power x and of course you wonder if god isn't x stepping back these days because we just x see evil becoming so predominant in the x world that we live in x uh today x you want to say more than ever but it's x always more than ever then next week x it'll be more than ever x again x that's why we're so uh intrigued by x latter-day prophecy these days x god did not create evil but he does x allow evil x if god had not allowed x for the possibility of evil x both mankind and angels would be serving x god out of obligation not choice that's x a beautiful point x he did not want robots that simply did x what he wanted them to do because of x their programming god allowed for the x possibility of evil so that we could x generally have a free will and choose x whether or not we wanted to serve him x and again x i don't have to tell you this but it's x such an important point because there is x so much evil and you say why would god x allow this this evil why would he allow x it and free will is really the answer x and we have to you know x we have to understand that we have x free will actually because of what we x believe we have free will x think of the idea of this other worldly x devil this this battle of good and evil x uh going on in in the cosmic realms in x which we're just we're just pawns x in the game x right we don't have free will if we're x just pawns in the game but because we x understand where evil comes from we know x it's it comes from in here and we have a x choice x that's why jesus wasn't always like as x we are because we have a choice we can x choose something else because we x understand x where evil and where goodness comes from x any questions or comments about those x i think they're great points and we'll x pick up on them a few times as we go x along x if you remember we finished up last week x with pogo x uh we have met the enemy x and he is us x uh that's where evil comes from oh x that's where sin comes from that's where x the devil x resides he resides within x our very x human nature x uh we're gonna talk this morning about x about how he got there x and um x all the ramifications of x adam's fall but it's so important that x we recognize that we don't get to to x blame somebody else x for both for our own x uh x evil and the evil in the world around us x it is it is human nature um living it x out and i made the point about x um x our brother james larson x um i found out you know i i x said i didn't know if he was a member of x central fellowship he is a member of x central fellowship i just didn't because x he came from a an ecclesia called the x monroe washington collegiate i'd never x heard of it x so i thought and of course i'm going to x show in a few minutes x he quotes from the basf repeatedly so x you think i would be able to add two and x two together but math is joshua's x specialty not mine x but he does this great series of class x on evolution the devil and the atonement x he doesn't so much get into where evil x comes from as much as where the devil x comes from or that concept of devil x comes from we're going to talk about x that uh x this morning i did get a whole bunch of x people uh emailing me explain to me who x this brother is he's from uh originally x from south africa i guess x uh he looks like a christian alfie and x he looks like john thomas you got a big x uh full beard x i'm going to start growing mine very x very soon x i actually had a pretty good beard while x i was out with coed but x nobody saw it because i was locked up in x a room x and his series also talks about about x this idea of uh personification and i x highly recommend if you're looking to x try to understand what the devil and x what he did for me was x sometimes we can get so caught up in you x know buried in this and trying to find x the right word we forget the big picture x and he opened up the big picture x and big picture i already knew but x sometimes we get lost in the sauce as x the expression goes x so x what is true do we do we is there a x cosmic battle between good and evil x going on or is it an internal battle x between god's righteousness x and our sinful nature x well x you know this is interesting you might x think well what a silly question to ask x because we already know x uh the answer to this question x and that is true x and you know i made the point last week x that i hadn't spent a lot of time x considering the devil or x the idea of a falling angel because once x you understand x truth x the other stuff just doesn't x really fit anymore you know what i mean x it's just sort of something something x over there because we know what truth is x and so you know once i came to x understand you know that i didn't have x you know a devil on one shoulder and an x angel on another shoulder that actually x you know sinful nature comes comes from x within x the idea of this of these two things x fighting you know on the side of my head x just x it just really just went away in many x respects that's why you know for me i'm x always shocked when somebody leaves our x community x but then goes back to a community that x believes in those things because i know x you don't x believe in those things because you've x already been told something different x that is true x so you have to almost x deny truth x and and sometimes that's what we do we x deny truth because because a lie is x easier to x to handle x um but we know the answer to this x question so so why ask x why ask the question x right well i think there's really x two important reasons to ask x um x why do we ask the question about this x question of another worldly devil versus x inner struggle and one is because that's x what the world believes x right we live in a world that believes x that that the angel the devil is a x fallen angel and that he is battling at x least the world that i grew up in uh is x battling for your soul x and so when we talk to people because x when you understand truth that whole x concept sort of goes out the window x you talk to people and and you're x talking on two different levels and you x almost don't realize you're talking at x two different levels because you're x talking about sin as it truly is and x they're talking about this this other x concept x and x you can't say well well you know that's x wrong right well they don't know what's x wrong in many cases they they think it's x right x so so you're x you're trying to deal with them on a x certain level and you've already x sort of passed that aside x and they're trying to understand what x you're saying but they have no idea that x that you have a completely different x idea about what sin is where the devil x comes from and all that kind of stuff so x it's important for us to know what those x things mean or what people think that x they mean in order to be able to x communicate with them and show them this x is what it really is as opposed to say x well you know that's not true now we x know by the way that yeah i'll be right x with you steve yeah uh we know that some x people actually don't believe in the x devil right i made the point of my x younger brother x when he was in catechism in fifth grade x the the x the catechism teacher said that the x devil was over hovering holding him by a x string over the fiery pits of hell x and my brother took exception to that x with uh certain words and he got kicked x out of catechism and he never went back x to catechism but there are people who x don't believe it x but they also don't believe in x christianity and in christ and all that x because the religion that they know the x christianity they know teaches something x that they know is wrong because all x they've really done is take a good hard x look at themselves x and say nobody's telling me to do these x things i'm doing these things on on my x own does that make sense x steve x yeah jim that was uh x that was the point i was going to bring x out that it seems to me that there's a x growing number of churches that are x rejecting x things like you know eternal torment x and even the the devil i know that x brother ben had posted something on x facebook not long ago ben where you were x talking about those who are x deconstructing their faith does that x ring a bell to you x yeah uh where people were um x you know they were x they were looking at these concepts of x you know eternal torment or a a x supernatural devil and they were sort of x walking away from christianity x in total right x and i think the point that i thought was x so fascinating about what ben had x written on facebook was that you don't x have to throw everything away right x right that that we in our understanding x of the gospel prevent a very attractive x alternative x to people who have rejected x things like eternal torment right and a x supernatural fallen angel devil you know x that sort of thing x right so i thought that was an x interesting point that bennett no it's x going to give us an opportunity to x preach more sure x sure no it's it's absolutely true like i x had said to my my younger brother i said x you're more christian than you realize x because because if you out if you're x searching from church to church and you x go to one church and they're telling you x you know the devil is holding you over x the fiery pits of hell and then you go x to the next church and they maybe they x use a different word for the devil or x maybe they don't say the fiery pits but x but it's the same message every place x you go you're gonna okay so that's what x that's what christianity is x chase x to go along with what steve said you x know this is concept that it's no longer x hell if you're x someone who would have gone to hell x that's x you're far away from god and if you've x gone to heaven that's closeness to god x so they've kind of gotten rid of that x concept of a fiery tormenting uh devil x right x which in modern day society does seem a x little bit out there right x right x i know my brother thought it was out x there x but that is what x um x we teach uh thank you guys for that the x second thing is x the reason to look at it is just to x fully appreciate uh the depth of x evil um x we have we have you know of an x incredible hope x in the lord jesus christ we have an x incredible dream you know it says of x jesus for the you know for the x joy that was set before him we have an x incredible joy and we certainly don't x want to spend our life in faith dwelling x on all the terrible things x that we are capable of doing but it is x very important to recognize x that anything is possible when it comes x to human flesh x we had talked a while back about uh the x the the supper x the meal in the upper room x and that very very important moment x uh when the disciples say to jesus lord x is it i making a confession of the fact x that they recognize in themselves that x they have the capacity to be the one who x betrays the lord jesus christ it's x important that we understand that it's x important we understand exactly what x paul meant when he said a wretched man x that i am x that we recognize in ourselves as x opposed to saying oh well i have the x truth so x so i am now somehow x oblivious or incapable or above x uh any of those things this is our x nature this is the nature that we were x born we were born with and it doesn't x just go away because x we were baptized into into the the x saving waters of jesus christ and and x just to emphasize that point x you know x jesus died a cruel death x it wasn't just that he overcame sin in x his life it wasn't just that he was x obedient to his father certainly that x was that was crucial but a very very x important x truth was being x um finalized and completed and x culminated in this terrible death why x did he have to suffer such a terrible x death and consider what isaiah 53 says x about it it says and it pleased x the lord to bruise him that seems almost x incomprehensible i remember x many years ago a harry tennant at a x bible school talking about this verse he x says it's the most difficult verse in x scripture x the idea that it actually pleased god x that his son was crucified and yet what x was being accomplished in that x crucifixion when he was saying basically x that the flesh is worth nothing this x sinful flesh x is all the evil that it that it purports x to be and nothing is greater to prove it x than what happens on the cross and of x course everything that that comes up to x the cross there is no x worse way to die really x than on a cross uh it's it's it's an x incredibly excruciating x way to go so why did he have to die that x way well he was nailing the flesh to the x cross x does that make sense x and yet it says this x it says look on to jesus the author and x finisher of our faith who for the joy x that was set before him endured the x cross despising the shame x and is set down at the right hand of the x throne of god x so he x he was the joy that was before him well x of course we want to keep that joy x before us all the time and it says look x on to jesus it's saying the joy that was x before him is the same joy x that's before you because you are in x christ x and it says despising the shame that x shame is the devil that's what the devil x is that ability remember what happened x as soon as adam and eve sinned x they covered themselves because of their x shame x and we're all we're ever trying to do is x cover ourselves because of the shame x that's what evil does x that make sense x but x now we're going right now we'll get into x the whole idea of where did it all come x from x because as x as evil as evil is the remarkable thing x is x that it wasn't there x at the beginning x it wasn't there at all x in genesis 1 verse 31 x and god saw everything that he had made x and behold it was very good x now i i know that's probably not what x the garden of eden looked like x we were actually jason was actually x supposed to bring pictures back x uh but he didn't so but i just thought x it was a pretty garden x but notice that it says x everything x that he made x was very good you ever wonder why we're x told that god looked upon it and saw x that it was good x let me ask you a question x you know your natural inclination is to x think that god was just giving himself a x little pat in the back x you know x i just you know i put this thing x together you know this this is pretty x good x you know i remember once i was doing a x painting and when i looked at it at the x end that actually never happened x [Laughter] x never in my life did i ever uh do a x painting look at it afterwards and say x it was very good x or fix anything or anything else but god x looked at everything that he saw and x behold x it was very good why does it tell us x that it was very good he's not just x patting himself on the back if he's x patting himself on the back then that's x god taking and god doesn't take god just x god just give so why does it tell us x that x well it tells us that so that we won't x believe x that it wasn't very good x because in the beginning after he had x created x everything x everything was very good x now think about what that means x it means there is no x fallen angel x the fallen angel isn't good x there's no devil x there is no evil serpent x there's no dark spiritual underworld x there's no antichrist x everything x was very good x before the fall x does that makes sense x so so you can't have x the devil x and believe the word of god you can't x have the supernatural devil x and believe the word of god otherwise he x would be there because it's everything x that god had made and we know that god x made x everything x not just not just the heavens and the x earth x the heavens x recognizing all all things x so everything x was very good and that's why we're told x everything was very good x so what happened x and when the woman saw that the tree was x good for food and that it was pleasant x to the eyes and the tree to be desired x to make one wise she took of the fruit x thereof and did eat and gave also to her x husband with her x and he did eat now we don't have to go x through the whole x fall i i believe some of you have x probably read it before x we know what happened we know the x serpent is there in the garden the x serpent is part of everything that was x very good we also know the serpent is x not x the snake is not responsible x right it's adam that was responsible it x was adam that was given x the the the commandment not to eat x and he did eat x was there beguiling going on all that x sort of stuff absolutely x but there was everything was very good x until this moment when adam eats of the x fruit x um and before the fall we know that adam x and eve were neither mortal nor immortal x now sometimes that can be a hard concept x to understand but if you think about it x it's not that hard because death is not x there yet sin is not there and death is x not there so mortal and immortal mortal x and immortal is about the ability to die x or the ability not to die but there is x no death x so it's not even it's not even there x at the time before the fall x and so by this act of defiance x sin is entered into the world x and death x through sin x because thou hast done this and the x sweat of thy face thou shalt x face shalt thou eat bread till thou x return onto the ground for out of it was x thou taken from dust thou art and on to x dust thou shalt return so the lie was x that you wouldn't die x that's always the lie it's really in the x end the same lie that you won't die x and god says that's a lie x now you will die x so he's commanded not to eat x he eats x and death comes into the world x paul says in romans by one man's sin x entered into the world and death by sin x and so death passed upon all men for x that all have sin x both the act of sin x uh x and our sinful nature x come into existence x with this sin both our our our sinful x nature our mortal dying frame x and sin itself committing committing x sins x and then sin becomes personified x you know in in this thing it says by one x man sin entered almost as if you know x some sort of individual is off to the x side and then adam allowed that person x to come into the garden that's x personification x and why is it important to understand x this idea of personification why is it x why is sin put this way why is the devil x put this way why is evil put this way as x as hannah's slides uh point out x i think there's really two important x reasons to understand why x this is done x and the first is because it wasn't there x at the beginning it has a separate x identity it's not a separate person x but before the fall there was no sin x there was no sinful nature x in the end when god becomes all in all x it's gone again x so it comes in for a time a long time x certainly and then it's taken it's taken x away the other actually there's three x points the other important thing is it x has its own identity in that it's always x the same thing x sin is always what it is in the end you x can commit different sins but sin itself x is defiance from god that's what it x always is and it's not the only thing x personified think in john chapter one x verse 1 in the beginning was the word x and the word was god and the word is god x that's a personification of the x expression the word and people get x confused about it because they make the x word x a thing x right you say well if the word is god x and jesus says the word made flesh x therefore jesus is god and you're taking x that expression the word and you make it x a thing x instead of what it is which is a x personification of something else does x that make sense x right jesus says marcus x hold on you need the microphone x i think a good place to go when you're x talking personification is the book of x proverbs x because how many times is wisdom x described as her x so when you're doing the harder like the x verses you've described x to personification if you go to proverbs x then it x pretty easily stands out that when all x the hers are talking about wisdom right x so and the reason why that's done is x because it x it represents something specific x it doesn't represent something that x changes in other words wisdom is wisdom x is wisdom is wisdom is wisdom x you know it's like when somebody says x the white house right well the white x house did this well the white house x represents something it represents the x executive branch of government x it's just easier and actually it's more x powerful x to say the white house it creates it x creates a bigger image same thing with x the devil you know it's it's a lot more x powerful to say the devil than it is to x say sinful nature x right and and you want to understand the x depth of that power and sin has power we x know it has power because it traps us x all the time x but if we just said sinful nature every x time you'd be taking away from the depth x of of the power of sin x that makes sense so it's personified the x devil is personified it's clearly x personified we looked at some passages x last week that showed it but it's x personified so that you understand it is x what it is it never changes x and it wasn't there before and it won't x be there later won't be there later on x and that it has a power in and of itself x that we have to face and we have we have x to deal with and so again here sin is x treated is treated the same way x just a little later in romans it says x for as by one man disa man's x disobedience many were made sinners so x by the obedience of one shall many be x made righteous so one man brought sin x into the world that one man was adam x brought in x the committing of sin but also we took x on x that mortal frame when god said from x dust thou art unto dust thou shalt x return it wasn't true before he x committed his sin x it became it was true that he was made x from dust it wasn't true that he was x going back to dust until he sinned but x notice it says i just thought this was x an inch i'd never really thought about x it before but it says by one man's x disobedience x many x were made sinners x well that many that's a really big x number x that many x but you can't say all were made sinners x because one was not made a sinner he was x born with our sinful frame with our x mortal corruptable nature x but he did no sin it's always important x to keep those two things separate even x though they're so closely connected our x sinful nature and our sins x the the the scriptures constantly x separate the two that's why you have x different sacrifices some relate to x committing sins trespasses and some x relate to our sinful nature x and it says by the obedience of one so x one person brought us out the other one x brings us back in or vice versa x depending on your analogy x so x we want to come to understand this this x idea of sinful nature now x i'm going to make a confession x usually when i teach classes i abs x almost never go off scripture but um our x brother x jim larson showed how the birmingham x amended faith shows where the devil x comes from x and how how it was found from from the x very beginning from the fall and x explains our simple nature and i thought x it was so well done that we're going to x go to this just for a few minutes the x birmingham amended x statement of faith x and the birmingham amended statement of x faith goes to x goes to great leaps and bounds to x explain where this sinful nature came x from and what the process of redemption x is to get rid of it x and it's so important because it's not x what the world teaches x it's not what most of christianity x teaches that's why they spent so much x time making sure that you understood x that this is what it is x but i had never noticed the devil in the x midst of the birmingham and men's tape x in the faith and it took it took brother x uh x james to sort of point it out even x though it's it's never expressed that x way x so just look at a few clauses x from the birmingham amended statement of x faith clause 4 x that the first man was adam whom god x created out of the dust of the ground as x a living soul or natural body of life x notice it says it says natural x so it was natural and it was very good x right remember the gnostics right the x gnostics taught that all flesh was evil x and all thought was good x that's the way they separate it out and x there you got your good and evil that x becomes back to the same battle x something over here something over there x but the garden shows that that's not the x way it was at all from the beginning x that this natural body was very good x that's what god calls it it was very x good in kind and in condition and placed x him under a law through which the x continuance of life was contingent on x obedience in other words he said you can x eat of anything you want to eat of you x just can't eat of that tree x whatever that tree x was x that makes sense right i i hope you x understand that because x you were baptized into that very x understanding x clause 5 that adam broke this law excuse x me x and it was and was adjudged unworthy of x immortality and sentenced to return to x the ground from whence he was taken x a sentence which defiled x and became a physical law of his being x and was transmitted to all his posterity x that's great english x a sentence which defiled that's the x devil x that's what the devil is x the devil is a defiler x it create it was there from the x beginning and it became a physical x larvas members we became mortal dying x creatures whether we sin or not we x became mortal dying creatures x we did sin we will sin but we took on x that frame x at the time of adam's fall x sinful nature is the devil this is what x it says in hebrews for as much then as x the children are partakers of flesh and x blood there it is again that corruptable x nature x he also himself likewise took part of x the same speaking of the lord jesus x christ that through death he might x destroy him that has the power of death x that is the devil x that's what the devil is it's the x personification of this flesh and blood x and the devil is a liar x john speaking in 8 44 says ye are of x your father the devil x and the lusts of your father ye will do x what lusts x lust of the flesh the lust of the eye x the pride of life your lusts my lusts x same loves x he was a murderer from the beginning x is he talking about a fallen angel as a x murderer from the beginning who was a x murderer from the very beginning x cain right x yeah absolutely x and abode not in the truth x because there is no truth in him when he x speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own x for he is a liar and the father of lies x and that's just what it is x it's lying x it's fooling yourself x it's not following the commandments of x god x it's a lie you shall not die x but you shall know good and evil x well we know good and evil x but we die x clause 6 x talks about the redemption x notice it's one clause after another x that's how important this concept is x that god in his kindness x conceived a plan of restoration which x without setting aside x his just and necessary law of sin and x death there's no appeasement there's no x paying god back it's not about paying x god back god doesn't need us to pay x anything x in his kindness he can see the plan of x restoration x uh his just and necessary law of sin and x death of course it's necessary x otherwise if we were to become immortal x we would just be immortal sinners x should um lord of sin and death should x ultimately rescue the race from x destruction god's destruction our own x destruction x it's our destruction x right it says of the lord jesus christ x that that he he didn't come to condemn x he came to save we condemn x ourselves x that's what we do x we prefer the darkness because our deeds x are evil the light shines x we choose the darkness it's our x condemnation and our destruction x and people the earth with sinless x immortals which is of course the depth x of our hope x clause 8 says that these promises had x reference to jesus christ who was to be x raised up from the condemned line of x adam x abraham and david and who through x wearing their condemned nature x was to obtain a title to resurrection by x perfect obedience and by dying abra gate x which is a word i had to look up x uh means to do away with the law of x condemnation for himself and all should x who should believe x and obey him and of course i know we x believe these things already we've x already been through this process x i went through this process x 30 x plus years ago x and once we know these things are true x are true we follow by these things it's x just sometimes we get caught up in all x the different things and we live in a x world that talks so much about the devil x in movies and in so many different x things that we forget what what it is x that we believe i know i did that's why x i needed him to go back and say hey go x back and look at it yourself you already x agreed to it x guilty is charged x clause 9 x uh that it was this mission that x necessitated the miraculous begettal of x christ from a human mother enabling him x to bear a condemnation every time you x see that idea of condemnation that is x the work of the devil and at the same x time to be a sinless bearer thereof and x therefore one who could raise x after suffering the death required by x the righteousness of god that very death x where it says to please the lord to x bless him that's how important x and how deep sin and evil is x clause 12 that for delivering this x message he was put to death x by the jews and romans as jews and x gentiles right who were however but x instruments in the hands of god for x doing that which he had determined x before to be done x vis-a-vis the condemnation of sin in the x flesh through the offering of the body x of jesus once for all as a propitiation x to declare the righteousness of god as a x basis for the remission of sins the x removal of the devil all who approach x god through this crucified but risen x representative of adam's disobedient x race x are forgiven x any questions about that x so it was all very good x the fall happened x in walks the devil in watch this this x sinful nature that we take on x that is a lie and that lie gets x perpetuated from generation x to generation and grown and built upon x why x because of what happens x in our next class so what happens first x of all x after the fall well we know adam i mean x arcane kills his brother he's a murderer x and then by genesis 6 it says god saw x that the wickedness of man was great in x the earth x and that every imagination of the x thought of his heart was only evil x continually x every imagination of the thoughts of his x heart doesn't not talk about actions x but actions take come from what we think x but every imagination of the thought of x man x not of some men x but of man x the wickedness of man was great x and every imagination and thought of his x heart was only evil continually x it seems hard it seems hard really to x to grasp x fully yet we know what evil thoughts are x at least i do x maybe you don't and i'm happy for you x i'm having them for you worry not we x know what evil thoughts are we know what x they are we don't act upon them but we x know what they are x and says x every thought of his heart was only evil x continually that is that is defiance of x god and then it says that god repented x and the lord said i will destroy man x whom i have created from the face of the x earth both man and beast and creeping x things and the fowls are for it x repenteth me that i have made them x but x noah found grace x in the eyes of the lord x so recognize x you know that you've got x evil continually every man x noah found grace doesn't say no it x doesn't say no found righteousness x it says noah found grace i'm sorry god x found grace x in the eyes of noah in the eyes let me x read it again but noah found grace x in the eyes of the lord x so he's going to destroy everything but x he's not going to destroy noah and it's x his grace x that saves noah x any questions or comments about that x all right it is now 10 15 my time is x impeccable x marcus x he created all things everything was x very good x our god does not lie x that if there was a supernatural being x called the devil that caused us to sin x this would be where he would be at least x mentioned right now x it repented me that i have created from x the man x doesn't mention anything else but man x right so x terrific point thank you x so so what we're going to get into next x time whenever that next time is is so if x all that is true and we know it's true i x shouldn't say if all that's true we know x it's true x then where does this guy come from x right because x this is what the vast majority of the x world believe in where does he come from x and where he's where does his power come x from x and it all starts with one single event x it's an event i don't know that we give x a full thought to the depth of what that x event represents x and that event is this x the tower of battle x everything changes x at the tower of battle and the x civilization that we live in today x has its establishment x at the building of that tower and that x what god has to do in order to stop man x from becoming too powerful for his own x for his own good x and that's where all this mythology x comes from that's where all these x different religions come from that's x where all these polyistic things come x from they all come from what was done x in genesis 11 x so that you and i also x can can x be found by the grace of god and be x shown truth within the civilization that x we live in that doesn't know and doesn't x even recognize god because remember in x genesis 11 x they know who god is x and after genesis 11 they don't know who x god is x anymore x so lord next time that's what we'll talk x about any questions or comments