Israel and Gaza

Original URL   Wednesday, November 1, 2023

Transcript

so good evening to everybody I'm very x glad to be speaking with you here this x evening at the invitation of brother x Nate uh I x know I actually I can say a lot of you x on the call I don't personally know x there are some names I do know and x recognize and uh very glad to to be in x your company once again uh but for those x who don't know me my name is is brother x Dan Langston I'm a member of the x moristown x eclesia and um my wife is Sister Kim x who's parents are brother Dave and x sister an cheum so if you don't know me x um there's a very good chance probably x 90 95% chance you know them so that's x just kind of the connection there to to x um sort of help you figure out um you my x Ecclesia and who I am and all but um our x topic this evening uh is is as we said x current events in Israel and it might be x a little bit different than typically um x you know having a a speaker give a whole x class on on the subject and I say that x because what what I'm doing is is x largely using clips from other x Christadelphian speakers who have uh x recently spoken on the subject and uh I x I I did I did that for the reason of uh x when I first gave um the version of this x class at my Ecclesia I did it the x Thursday following the attack that was x on uh Saturday so it was kind of the x kind of thing where I didn't have a lot x of preparation time to to be as Thor as x I'd like in the study and uh pulling x things out um but there are a lot of x videos out there who have uh the x brothers who who have done a lot of that x work in in the studies and bringing x these things forward especially in light x of what's going on now uh so I do want x to uh kind of start out with an x introduction and looking at what's x happened x um with Israel and the x attack and um x just there there's a website called uh x O7 map.com and it's it's a website x that's been set up to essentially x document um the the attack on Israel on x October 7th just a few weeks ago and uh x I'm just going to read a brief paragraph x from that website that describes what x happens on the morning of October 7th x 2023 Hamas led a simultaneous wave of x assaults on Israeli civilian communities x and milit milary posts the dawn attack x began when Hamas launched over 5,000 x Rockets from Gaza into Israel then used x these strategic bares as cover to breach x the Border in this massive surprise x Onslaught on Southern Israel Hamas x terrorists committed unfathomable x atrocities that have reverberated x globally the attacks claimed the lives x of more than 1400 individuals left more x than 3,300 wounded and saw 230 people x taken as hostages and x something you know that that's to kind x of set this in a historical context x is there haven't been that many Jews x killed in a single day civilian Jews x killed in a single day than the x Holocaust and that's that's the scale of x what we're seeing in terms of of x historical importance and and that's x what sets this apart from any of the x other previous skirmishes that have x happened uh in recent times this is not x something we're at the conclusion it's x going to go back to the status quo in x the Middle East this is something that x um essentially will be caused for x realignment uh in terms of the Power x Balance and uh potentially a peace that x results from this war but Israel was x completely caught off guard here uh this x is being called one of the worst x intelligence failures in its history if x not the worst so in a speech later that x day on October the x 7th Israel's prime minister uh for the x time uh Benjamin x Netanyahu in his speech broadcast a x brief statement he said citizens of x Israel we are at War not in an operation x or in rounds but at War this morning x Hamas launched a murderous surprise x attack against the state of Israel and x its citizens we have been in this since x the early morning hours I convene the x heads of the security establishment x ordered first of all to clear out the x communities that have been infiltrated x by terrorists this currently is being x carried out at the same time I have x ordered an extensive mobilization of x reserves in that we return fire of a x magnitude that the enemy has not known x the enemy will pay an unprecedented x price in the meantime I call on the x citizens of Israel to strictly adhere to x the directives of the IDF and Home Front x command we are at War and we will win x it so that was what he had to say uh x following that initial attack on October x 7th um yeah so quite a significant uh x toll of civilian life which which was x hamas's intended effect of course they x they wanted this to um to really send a x message to Israel and you know again the x significance here is Israel has been x involved with in a lot of skirmishes x with its hostile neighbors over the x years um this conflict marks the first x time since it actually has declared war x since the 1973 yam kapor War which x started you may have seen almost 50 x years to the day of that tack um this x one came at the end on the last day of x the Feast of x Tabernacles now in the time since then x you know Israel has has has got all the x Hamas militants out of its territory and x pushed them back responded with air x Stripes air strikes on the Gaza Strip x and uh as we've just seen over the past x last few days um has just mounted a x ground assault into Gaza itself um and x followed by many air strikes which were x kind of clearing the way so something x else Netanyahu was also quoted as saying x is that we will take Mighty Vengeance x for this wicked day Hamas launched a x cruel and wicked War we will win this x war but the price is too heavy to Bear x Hamas wants to murder us all this is an x enemy that murders mothers and children x in their homes and their beds an enemy x adducts that adducts elderly children x elderly children teenage girls every x homas members is a dead man we saw the x beasts of pray we saw the barbarians x that we were facing we saw a cruel enemy x an enemy worse than Isis and you know x I'm sure many of you have been following x the details of the coverage of what's x happening over there and I won't go into x some of the atrocities that are being x committed um um because it's almost x beyond belief the the evilness of of man x towards his fellow and and ironically x his own in x humanity but following that attack the x defense minister Israeli defense x minister yo Gant said we will wipe out x this thing called x Hamas Hamas the Islamic State of Gaza x will be wiped from the face of the Earth x it will not continue to exist there will x be no situation in which Israeli x children are murdered and we all go x about our business he also said it's the x worst terror attack the world has ever x seen children bound together and x murdered people burned barbaric Deeds x that the Jewish people has not suffered x since x 1945 so in the wake of that Israel x formed a National Emergency government x to focus on matters related to the the x War uh to put aside their political x difference over the last nine months x related to the judicial overhaul and x other things and it's really been four x or five years that they've sort of had x the political instability with uh x repeated deadlocked elections and x fragile coalitions and uh to some extent x you you you might say that's a x contributing factor to uh having been x caught off guard on October the x 7th so what Israel wants to do is to x completely obliterate and wipe out Hamas x and uh for the time being Israel has the x support of many Western countries x including the United States United x Kingdom Germany x France Italy and Hungary um due in large x part towards its long-standing x allyship uh with a lot of countries in x the west but also because of of the x horrific uh barbarities and atrocities x that had suffered at the hands of Hamas x um and and the recognize and need for x Israel to defend itself against um such x inhumanity now the leader of Hamas has x warned that uh the their assault on x Israel would spread to the West Bank in x Jerusalem now it's clear um that we're x witnessing the beginning stages of a war x that will have significant consequences x for the Middle East indeed as I said at x the outset that this isn't just x something that it goes back to the x status quo the status quo is changing x with this x war x so you know I I think when we have x something like this happening uh dealing x with with God's people um the Jews and x um the the importance that they are they x are in the scheme of uh in the prophetic x scheme you know it's something that you x know we we can't ignore you know we x can't not talk about something that's x important and um so as I said I I'd like x to do that by way of uh some videos that x have already been put out into the x Brotherhood by Christadelphian speakers x maybe some of them you'll have seen x maybe some of them not um but I want to x go ahead and get into those so uh these x first couple Clips is given by Brother x Roger Lewis and he he actually gave this x talk in 2007 at the at the echol lake x Ecclesia and uh it's entitled the whole x to is entitled dramatic moves in the x Gaza Strip but this particular clip is x going to kind of set us up for Palestine x in the Bible and kind of its roots and x how that relates to the modern day x Palestinians so I'm going to go ahead x and click play let me know if if you x can't hear and we'll try to sort that x out Palestine and x Palestinians well it's a biblical term x actually because the word Palestinian x comes from the word Palestina that's x found in the Bible it's the Hebrew word x pth and that word pth meaning rolling or x migratory hence the land of The x Wanderers is translated as Palestina x three times as Palestine once as x philistia three times and as Philistines x once but it's the word translated x Palestina it's where the word Palestine x comes from and where the word x Palestinian is derived from so there is x a Biblical basis to this particular word x so I guess what we would say is that x from a scriptural perspective therefore x a Palestinian is a Philistine and a x Philistine is a Palestinian because x certainly they control the same x territory the Palestinians compared to x the Philistines of old they manifest the x same attributes so they qualify on both x counts and they're going to receive or x share the same end from a Biblical x perspective in fact interestingly enough x the Arabic for the term Palestine x Liberation is T Philistine so you can x see that interplay between the word x Philistine Philistine and Palestine x Palestinian it's all one word in the x Hebrew so there's a Biblical background x to that particular x word now I should really cover my x position at the outset in case you think x I'm heading off in the wrong direction x biblically and just say x this modern pales x Ians are not in any way descended from x the actual Philistines of Old Testament x times there's no actual connection with x the Philistines there's no ethnic or x linguistic or cultural connection x whatsoever the Philistines are gone x brothers and sisters they were x exterminated off the face of the Earth x as we shall see in a set of prophecies x that we're going to look at later on in x fact I'd have to say that the whole x story of the Palestinian people today is x the most amazing media fraud perpetrated x by the Palestinian people x themselves so what's interesting about x that is um you know the Palestinians x occupying that area today uh as brother x Rogers said AR don't have a direct line x you know to the Philistines of the Bible x but what is what is interesting is that x the people that's there now uh x essentially are constituted to play that x same role x uh that same adversarial role towards x Israel occupying um that that stretch of x land and this next clip here from that x same class um brother Roger talks about x how uh safety for Israel peace that that x lasting peace for Israel comes only when x Palestine is subdued and and we'll see x that as long as they've had you know x they've been in that area there's been x conflict x I think the Bible made it absolutely x clear that there was only ever safety x for Israel when Palestina was subdued so x look at this little run of quotations x that I think helps to establish x there conle says David smoke the x Philistines and subdued them and took x gath and her towns out of the hand of x the x Philistines First Kings 4 says Solomon x reigned over all the kingdoms unto the x land of the Phil x Ines for he had Dominion unto x Gaza 2 Chronicles 17 says and the fear x of the Lord fell upon all the kingdoms x and the Philistines the Palestinians x brought Jehoshaphat x tribute again we're going to be told x that in the days of of Isaiah the king x it says that he went forth and wared x against the Palestinians and built x cities about esod and among the x Philistines which by the way tells us x that the Jewish practice of building x cities or settlements an occupied x territory is not a new one the aai was x doing that many years ago building x settlements an occupied x territory and of the of the time of x Hezekiah it says as we've seen before he x Hezekiah smoke the Philistines even unto x G you see all those key words David Ward x Solomon had Dominion Jehoshaphat x received tribute asaiah went forth and x wared against them hezeki smote the x Philistines now what's interesting is x that all those kings of Judah had x alliances political alliances with other x nations but none of them ever ever x negotiated a peace treaty with Palestina x because peace only came when that area x was under military subjection you ever x stop to ask yourself this question x brothers and sisters as to how the peace x and safety of Ezekiel 38 might come x about I give you two x options a peaceful negotiation with x Hamas signed in the spirit of Brotherly x friendship or another military x confrontation that the Jews x win on the basis of Psalm x 83 I think if Psalm 83 is an indicator x it would suggest perhaps the latter x wouldn't it triggered by some dramatic x event we don't know what it might be I x don't know by the way whether that is x what will happen but it's a possibility x and that there will be an Israeli x reprisal after the manner of of David x and Solomon and Jehoshaphat and Isaiah x and Hezekiah of old a route of opposing x forces and that Israel might take x control of the West Bank absolutely x which biblically she must be in control x of at the time of the end and Put a Ring x Of Steel around Gaza to contain the x spirit of hatred that Broods and festers x in that place and I believe brothers and x sisters that if Israel does that at some x stage in the future she will have set x the scene for the invasion of go who's x the Latter-Day asero Babylonian now x actually there's a really good point x that I want to make here so if you've x been sleeping throughout the course of x this particular address now's the time x to wake up and pay attention for this x last crucial few moments now here's the x great x lesson what's the great let me see if I x can just put that that that's much x better now I've really got your x attention what was the greatest Calamity x of Israel in Old Testament times answer x when the Babylonians came down and x overthrew the nation and led them off x into x captivity question were there some x surrounding Arab Nations that threw in x their lot with Nebuchadnezzar when he x came down to be hostile to Israel yes x were they the main story no what was the x main story Nebuchadnezzar x Babylon when Rome came down with Titus x or Vespasian and Titus and marched x against Israel were there some x surrounding Nations that threw in their x lot with the Romans to settle old scores x against Israel yes were they the main x story no what was the main story Rome x Babylon when go comes down at the time x of the end might there be some Arab x Nations associated with goou in her x Invasion yes are they the main story no x what's the main story go L day Babylon x see it's a question of understanding the x framework of Bible prophecy I think that x what these prophecies indicate to us is x that the very likelihood of further x Jewish Arab controversy but that's not x the same as saying that it's the great x controversy at the time of x the x brother Roger's making the point that x Israel even in its history really only x had uh safety when it when its enemies x were essentially brought under military x uh subjugation as opposed to you know a x peace treaty or or political agreements x or anything like x that um in in regarding the point about x you know when go comes down into the x land um x you know being joined by Arab Nations x that's um you know you see a little bit x of that in in Psalm x 83 x and you know the Nations there x um is something we'll look at in the x next clip but I I do want to read Psalm x 83: x 1-5 keep not thou silence oh God hold x not thy peace and be not still oh God x for Lo thine enemies make a tumult and x they that hate thee have lifted up the x head they have taken crafty counsel x against thy people and consulted against x thy hidden ones they have said come and x let us cut them off from being a nation x that the name of Israel may be no more x in remembrance for they have consulted x together with one consent they are x Confederate against thee and then Psalm x later in the psalm it goes on to list x all of the the different groups of x people and um you know x the it's very likely that this is x dealing specifically with the time of uh x Armageddon and when go comes down into x the land and it's joined by a host of x other nations uh and particularly um you x know the the the anti-Semitism that's a x part of it so the next clip we're going x to look at uh is taken from a talk that x was posted earlier this year in February x uh given by Brother Jim cowi I don't x know if he actually gave it in February x but that's when when it was posted and x uh it's it's a larger the the overall x class is on on Psalm 8 three and he x really digs in and gets into details but x for um you know we're going to drop in x at the point where he's tying tying this x into the battle of Armageddon with with x what's happening here and as well tying x it into the um the image of x Nebuchadnezzar so we'll get we'll get x into that x one so we can come back I think to Psalm x 83 now we've got the roots of Psalm 83 x which is an Armageddon Psalm so I'm x going to read it again from verse two x they have taken sorry for low thine x enemies make a tal and they that hate x thee have lifted up their head you x that's what I said in the King James it x says the head It should read their head x you know what the word head is in Hebrew x rash they've lifted up their rash they x have taken crafty counsel against thy x people and consulted against thy hidden x ones they have said and this of course x is the policy of Iran today it was the x policy very clear policy of our menad x the former president of Iran come and x let us cut them off from being a nation x that the name of Israel may be no more x in remembrance that's the policy of Iran x and those who are supporters of Iran for x they have consulted together with one x consent they are Confederate against x thee and then we've got a list of the x Confederates and it lines up with x Nebuchadnezzar's x image so who's the first in the Leist x well of course the Tabernacles of Edom x well we know who Edom represents Edom x represents Babylon the great the latter x days the the the most anti-Semitic power x on Earth so clearly edom's got to be x there doesn't it so here we've got x Babylon the head of the image well who x comes next the ishmaelites well they're x Muslims aren't they where do you find x Muslims from Syria across to Pakistan x they're all Muslim and they'll be part x of the Confederacy because that was part x of the MEO Persian Empire but read on of x Moab and the hagarenes into verse 7 giel x and Ammon and AMC AMC was a son of Esau x you remember the Philistines were the x inhabitants of Ty Philistines x Palestinians y t hisbah y you got it so x what we have here of course is nean x there's image and down here in verse 8 x who do we meet it says aser in the King x James you know who that is should be x Assyria and the the power of go is x called the latterday Assyrian all x through the book of Isaiah and in the x Book of Micah okay when the Assyrians x shall come into our land Micah 5 so we x know what this is about this is about x the invasion of Israel in the latter x days and it has an outcome and the x outcome is the destruction of that power x upon the mountains of Israel so verse 8 x says Assyria also is joined with them x they have hen the children of lot and by x the children of lot is meant those false x religions for from lot came Moab and x Ammon they were of course born in very x uh difficult circumstances where his x daughters uh did uh did something quite x wrong to their father and out comes x these illegitimate children okay just x like the churches that support the x papacy and will support this invasion x are illegitimate so you see how this x really x is yes so that one I I put in um I know x because Psalm 83 uh in some cases is x understood as a uh description of you x know a war with the Arabs that will x happen which will precede the the GOI x Invasion and uh the point brother Jim x here is making is that it may more x accurately deal with Armageddon itself x and and when go comes down and the x Nations that are allied with x it now the next clip is swinging back to x um brother Roger in that talk we were x looking at earlier and this is going to x deal with um expectations for Palestine x and remember he's he's speaking in 2007 x and based based on an interpretation of x of of scriptural teaching and prophecy x uh x you know these these are some some x expectations that that he thinks we can x see it's very interesting to see how x closely it tracks with with what's x happening right now well let's see what x we do expect what what's our Biblical x expectation for the latter x days well as we've said we expect the x increasing Drive of independent x Palestinian activity in the coastal x region of the Gaza x Strip we expect the increasing tendency x of the Palestinian movement in Gaza to x ferment a state of enmity with x Israel we see the increasing likelihood x that Israel's security with at least the x Gaza Palestinians will not come by peace x but possibly by some form of military x control and we see the increasing x tension of the Palestinian conflict in x Gaza as preaging the invasion of Goen x the return of the Lord Jesus Christ and x I'll tell you why because those three x quotations at the bottom Obadiah 19 x joel3 Isaiah 11 all passages we've x looked at today suggesting a Latter-Day x Palestina but not only do they suggest a x Latter-Day Palestina those particular x passages also suggest the coming of our x Lord Jesus Christ x because well x because obad says that in that x day saviors will come up on Mount x Zion and Joel 3 says there'll be a voice x that Roars in x Jerusalem and Isaiah 11 x says there'll be an ins sign set up for x the x Nations they're all code words for the x coming of Christ aren't they brothers x and sisters what of marvelous things we x see these things unfolding in the Middle x East right now we can have absolute x confidence that Christ is x near so you know it's x uh pretty x accurate x next clip is from uh brother Ken whad a x quick look and this one deals with Saudi x Arabia's uh role potentially in x resolving the the current conflict that x we're seeing and what it has to do with x um Lebanon in Gaza have a quick look x over in Jo chapter 3 because Joel x chapter 3 talks about the battle of x Armageddon and the Gathering of the x Nations to the valley of x Jehoshaphat and that starts in the first x few verses and then continues on from x verse 9 so you have in verse two I will x gather all nations and bring them down x to the valley of Jehoshaphat and plead x with them there for my people and my x Heritage Israel whom they have scattered x among the Nations and parted my land as x I said when we come to Daniel 12 we talk x about the end of the scattering the x scattering being accomplished so that he x tells us that this time period is x equivalent to the time period of Daniel x 12 Joel 3 Gathering All Nations notice x in verse one God brings again the x Captivity of x Judah and Jerusalem the Captivity of x Judah we could say finished in x 1948 when Israel was declared a nation x there's no more captivity of Judah since x 1948 and then the Captivity of Jerusalem x ended in x 1967 with the six- day war and the x control of Jerusalem so this is talking x about that same time of the end period x and then sandwich well let's go down to x verse 9 UM Proclaim this among the x Gentiles prepare War wake up the Mighty x Men let all the men of War come up and x uh you go down to verse 12 and we told x that they come up to the valley of x Jehoshaphat so we've got those first few x verses and then from verse 9 on x continuing to talk about Armageddon but x sandwiched in between them which must x mean it happens at the same time as the x Gathering to Armageddon around Verses 4 x to8 and I'm going to talk about this as x I said more at the end but notice in x verse four what's it talking about Ty x and zidon and all the coast of Palestine x now where is Ty and zidon today x geographically what country is it x Lebanon did everybody say Lebanon they x did x Lebanon who's in charge of Lebanon x really his x balah will they be called in into this x war we don't know for sure but here we x have what have you to do with me why are x you doing things to my x people tyon s who else all the coasts of x Palestine which has got to be the x Palestinians in Gaza and and the coast x means the borders which would include x the West Bank as well what are you doing x to me and my x people the prophet says in earlier times x you rejoiced when my people were sent x off into x captivity matter of fact you health x people take my people into captivity x amongst the grecians it says the meaning x the x Gentiles the Greek countries of Europe x they were scattered and you were happy x about x that but I'm going to bring my people x back into their land and when I raise x them verse 7 out of the place where you x have sold them I will return your x recompense upon your own x head Rockets coming down from x above your recompense is going to be x returned on your own head and x then your people will be subject to what x Israel wants to do with you tyon sidon x and Palestine what Israel wants to do x with you and what will Israel want to do x with them sell them to the x sians who are the x sians the people of x Sheba the Saudi Arabians and the Arab x states in a similar area so you are x going to be sold into their control now x we don't know what that means whether x they'll actually be taken out of the x land to SAA to Sheba to Saudi Arabia x whether they'll be deported or what will x be but whatever it is this passage is x telling us that Saudi Arabia will x control the future of Lebanon and the x Palestinians now I'm going to come back x to that and why is that important to the x present situation it's important to the x present situation because Saudi Arabia x is on the cusp said Benjamin yahu of x making an agreement with Israel and I'll x show you a little video some video clips x later on about that so we're getting x very close to the sians taking control x of what's happening in regard to the x Palestinians and Lebanon x now when this latest I'll call it call x it a skirmish at the moment I think it's x a lot more than that we don't know how x long it's going to go for but this war x as it's been declared when it began it x began on the basis that the uh x Palestinians were saying this is Hamas x the Palestinians in general that we're x fighting this war called the operation x alaxa x Flood now alaxa of course is the mosque x located on the Temple Mount right x alongside the Dome of the Rock and uh x right there where the temple was x originally built but this is the point x uh what I put together on Friday night x um to talk about the Palestinians and x Lebanon and the problem being solved in x Joel x 3 in uh Joel chapter 3 just going over x this this is our conclusion there's a x couple of things to look at here Joel 3 x as we said from verse x 4 we're in the time of Armageddon x because that's as we said the early x verses and then taken up again in x chapter 9 and chapter 11 ver verse sorry x verse 11 Joel 3 the early verses then x verse 9 11 assemble yourselves and come x uh the cause thy Mighty ones to come x down oh x Yahweh Ty and z are in Lebanon and all x the coasts of Palestine God saying why x are you railing against me what have you x got to do with me what's this all x about he does say swiftly and speedily I x will return your recompense upon your x own x head because you sold my children to the x grecians this is in history this is time x gone by when the Jews were scattered and x he says God says uh the children also of x Judah verse 6 the children of Jerusalem x have you sold unto the grecians uh that x is in the original word that Javan which x is the area of literally of Greece and x of uh European countries and the Jews x were weren't they they were sold off x into the European territories for x centuries x centuries so God says in the latter time x he says verse 7 I will raise them up out x of the place whether ye have sold them x well as you had them under your control x and you push them out of the land uh and x the figure is selling them uh I'll bring x them out back from where you've sold x them and of course we know that many of x them came back from Europe and other x countries that they'd been pushed out to x centuries and centuries ago and I will x return your recompense upon your own x head returning a x recompense well x payback payback what it means it's x payback time so in Verses 4 to8 the x Lebanon and the Palestinians will be x sold into the hands of the x sians I'll return your recompense in x verse 8 I'll sell your sons and your x daughters into the hand of the children x of Judah in other words Israel will be x in control there's so much in control x I'm told uh uh by Brother Bobby earlier x on that uh they' got that much control x over the Gaz of strip they can just x switch off the power and 2 million x people have got no power that's not a x bad sense of control over the territory x is it so they there God has sold these x people into the hands of the children of x Israel same with x Lebanon so the next clip is from Brother x Pete Owen and a talk he gave on October x the 8th which was the same day that of x the clip that we just watched from x Brother Ken uh this clip here um is a x little bit more information regarding x the role that Hamas and x Hezbollah might play or will play in the x leadup to x Armageddon yay verse four and what have x you to do with me oh Ty and zidon and x all the coasts of x Palestine will you render me a x recompense and if you recompense me x swiftly and speedily will I return your x recompense upon your own head you've x taken my silver and my God you've x carried into your temples my goodly x Pleasant things the children also of x Judah and the children of Jerusalem x you've sold to the grecians so in the x buildup to the battle of x Armageddon there are two groups of x people mentioned in verse four Ty and x zidon Ty and zidon where are Ty and x zidon based today which country would x they be in Lebanon so so I try to put a x help on the slide here boys and girls if x you're making a note so Ty and zidon x that's Lebanon that's the north of uh x the land of Israel that that's where a x militant organization or terrorist x organization Hezbollah are sponsored by x Iran they've also fired Rockets into x Israel in the last 24 hours to show x their support for the x Palestinians so in verse four Ty and x zidon you might make a note Hezbollah x that x region and all the coasts of x Palestine or the revised version says x the regions of x philistia and and when we read the x regions of x philistia our minds perhaps straight x away go to the x Philistines and the Philistine territory x is the ancient territory of Gaza x today and so what we have in Joel 3 and x verse4 is something of the territory of x the terrorist x organizations who will come to the four x in the last x days and what do they do they've taken x my silver and my x gold and have carried into your temples x my goodly Pleasant things the children x also of Judah the children of x Jerusalem they've taken x hostages in the last 24 x hours now we would never be so foolish x as to be saying having read that what x we've seen in verse four that is the x perfect fulfillment that we've just seen x this x weekend but we would say when we're x looking at the events that are currently x unfolding in the Middle East in the holy x land that this verse in the buildup to x the battle of armag headen where we're x starting to see these people come to the x fall and we're starting to see some of x their behaviors match what the ancient x Prophet said would x happen and so now we start to ask x ourselves the question well what what x next and we should be absolutely clear x we don't know the x details who predicted x yesterday I don't think many of us x thought that we'd be doing this talk x this afterno afterno I tell you what I x certainly x didn't but it happened didn't it so it's x right that we just try to to to frame x our thinking to to to reflect on it if x nothing else for our young people and x children to to to keep our minds focused x through the lens of scripture into x what's going x on well we don't think there's going to x be a quick fix to this we think it's x likely a significant conflict will be x ahead it's highly likely that Israel x will go into Gaza there'll be a ground x offensive and that they will go in x because of the hostage situation they'll x have no x choice possible further involvement of x the likes of Hezbollah the Israeli x government and opposition we think x because they've been so crippled and x it's not just us there are plenty of x commentators across the world were x seeing that because of the crippling of x the government Hamas has been able to x seize this unique opportunity so I think x it's likely in the coming days and weeks x that of course there'll still be x continual in fighting as every x government there always will be where x men are concerned but all the same we x think there may be some cooperation in x order for the uh country to be able to x make decisions and deal with a x war we think I certainly do that the x United States and their allies will do x everything they can to keep that peace x deal on the table we reflect on that x shortly we we think that piece of x Ezekiel 38 is critical to Bible x prophecy we x wonder we're getting into speculation x here because we're talking about x tomorrow and the next day and the week x after and the the month after the year x but we wonder that Israel x May justify its position the government x was elected on the premise that they x would Annex they would take the West x Bank x now they've not been in a position to be x able to do that for all the reasons x we've reflected on x already but we x wonder that this may provide a x justification for them to say we've got x no choice we can't have the likes of x Hamas as terrorists in our country x roaming around the West Bank where we've x got uh our people living so you wonder x that it may become the driver for them x to take the mountains of Israel the West x Bank and we also wonder that watching x on with a bird's eye view from the north x Russia will subtly initially Provide x support to the x Palestinians x before at some stage it will be less x subtle and they will drop down into the x land and they'll come on to the x mountains of Israel x yes so these yes brother Pete says you x know did regarding the speculation we we x don't know what's what's going to happen x next but um I'm also of the opinion that x the the piece of Ezekiel 38 will follow x this War uh and I think also as as an x outcome of this war if not during the x war Israel will take control of the West x Bank and so be able to knock down the x wall that separates it and Israel can x truly be dwelling without balls bars or x or walls or Gates and I think you know x down the road from this x conflict likely when we're already x gathered to to Judgment at sin uh will x be that invasion of Russia coming down x on the mountains of Israel so I I I x think that's how close we are that that x this where that's where this is x going so I think I've x got one last clip here x yay and that is the question of of x Israel in the West Bank here speaking a x little bit more to x that and so what of the West Bank do we x think it's likely that Israel could x could look to completely Annex the West x Bank we've seen the last few months x tensions in the West x Bank this article ask this what does the x future look like with Israel continuing x to grow its settlements and entrenching x its occupation a political situation x seems distant as ever challenges today x like the Israeli Ultra nationalist x government the growth of Palestinian x armed groups and the fragility of the x Palestinian Authority are are different x from previous years which is why x intelligence agencies diplomats and x analysts have been increasingly warning x of the likelihood of a massive flare up x that article was written a couple of x months x ago if I was the editor of that x newspaper I'd be getting that guy to x write me a few more x articles because that's what's happened x this weekend the massive flare up and x and we've reflected haven't we part of x it is because of this weakened position x that Israel are in that that Netanyahu x managed to get back into power as the x Prime Minister but he had to do so by x making many deals not least with an x exceptionally hard right group of ultr x nationalist Jews who said yes we will go x into government with you but on this x principle the first guiding principle of x the government in x Israel was published this is early this x year declares that the Jewish people x have an exclusive and unquestionable x right to all areas of the land of Israel x it says that includes the occupied West x Bank and Promises to advance and x developed settlements there about x 600,000 Jews live in about 140 x settlements built since Israel's x occupation of the West Bank and East x Jerusalem in x 1967 in a CO Coalition deal with the x ultra nationalist religious Zionism x party he signed last week it was this is x back in January Mr Netanyahu agreed to x retroactively legalize The Outpost he x also promised to Annex the West Bank x while choosing the timing and weighing x of all the state of Israel's National x and international interests such a step x would be opposed by Israel's Western and x Arab allies so Netanyahu this year has x said it's in his policies to Annex the x West x Bank we wonder that the conf that we've x seen this weekend may be the driver for x it so we see these settlements in the x West Bank we've seen them grow and x grow we see now over 500,000 and it x doesn't stop Israel just uh in the last x few months keeps approving more x expansion in the West Bank now you're in x Ezekiel 38 would you just flick back to x chapter 36 because we shouldn't be x surprised by x this we're not making any comments on x the Rights and Wrongs of it but it's x simply is Bible prophecy being fulfilled x because Ezekiel prophesying over 2 and a x 12,000 years ago said that when the Jews x came back to the land they would come x onto the mountains the mountains are the x West x Bank and they would grow and multiply so x so look Ezekiel 36:8 oh mountains of x Israel you'll shoot forth your branches x you'll yield your fruit to my people of x Israel verse 10 I will multiply men on x you verse 9 you will be tilled and sown x so we're not surprised to see headlines x like this Israel to seize 12 acres of x Palestinian Farmland in the West x Bank the Jews will will Farm we're told x Ezekiel 36 and verse 9 on the West Bank x and so we're x interested and we're extremely x interested to see the language that's x used in Ezekiel 36 x where it says in verse x 11 I will multiply upon you man and x Beast and they will increase and bring x fruit and I will settle you and that's x what we see don't we on the West Bank x today the settlements of the Jewish x people as they keep building on the West x Bank brother John Thomas Dr John Thomas x uh writing as a Christadelphian over 170 x years x ago x spoke of the fact that he believed from x reading his Bible reading here Ezekiel x chapter x 36 that before the invasion of the x country by goou by Russia he wrote there x will be a considerable Gathering of x Israelites on the mountains of Israel x now he doesn't say the West Bank because x at that time it wasn't called the West x Bank we'll come to that very shortly x that time it was simply called the M it x was just the mountains it was just just x the geography of the region it was the x mountains of Israel today we call that x area the West Bank you could see from x Bible prophecy there would have been a x considerable Gathering of Israelites on x that territory before the Russians x dropped down when he said there would be x a considerable Gathering of Israelites x do you think he thought there might have x been 50 x settlers do you think he'd have x taken a what about a thousand a thousand x a considerable Gathering a thousand what x about x 10,000 can you imagine if he could see x what we're x seeing over half a million x Jews on the mountains of x Israel that's an extraordinary x extraordinary prophecy that's only x possibly been able to be fulfilled since x 1967 x so very important things are happening x right now uh as as we see the the will x of our father continuing to unfold x particularly as it concerns His People x Israel um it brought to to mind for me x Luke chapter 10 verses 23 through 24 and x this is Jesus speaking to his disciples x right regarding his his own Ministry x blessed are the eyes that see what you x see for I tell you that many prophets x and Kings wanted to see what you see but x did not see it and to hear what you hear x but did not hear it and I think you know x for us we can certainly relate to that x in our own time with with what we're x seeing now and in the uh continuing x fulfillment of of Prophecy that um you x know we've really been blessed to see x for for you know our whole lives really x you know 196 7 x 1948 uh even even before that x um so it's just you know I want us to be x able to to to truly see these things U x for for the importance that they have x and and to to x Really grasp the the gravity of it x really the importance and it leads to x Second Peter chapter 3 and verse 10 you x know a consideration x um you know the day of the Lord will x come as a thief in the night what manner x of persons ought you to be x so we don't have a lot of time left uh x brothers and sisters and and I know x maybe we kind of feel like that's maybe x a chicken little in the sky it's falling x kind of a thing that we've oh you know x we've been we've been here before x significant events have been happening x and and well we're we're still waiting x and you know x I we're very close and um and we know x that because of the magnitude of the x prophecies we see being fulfilled and um x you know hopefully we're not lulled to x to sleep and and taking for granted um x all that we have been seeing even in x just these past few years you know the x the the birth pangs that Jesus said x would come and that and that's certainly x part of it in what we're saying so just x um you know to take heed for for how you x walk and um understand the importance of x what we're seeing now