The High Calling

Original URL   Sunday, October 12, 2025

Transcript

Quick question, how many of you, this is actually a magazine, a Chris Delphian magazine, how many of you here, there's only a few of you here, have ever heard of it? Two, okay, that's about right, even if we had 100, that's probably a pretty good percentage. Again, it's a Chris Delphian magazine, it's called The High Calling and I'm going to talk about it this morning, Lord willing, I'm going to talk about why I'm the one talking about it. And I'm going to talk a little bit about what is this High Calling that this magazine has been named. In order to do that and give it the proper consideration, we have to go back in time to 1832. In 1832, Brother Dr. Thomas was traveling on a ship, I'm sure many of you know the story, but there's some, just some points I want to make in regards to it and to the beginning of Dr. Thomas's ministry. In 1832, he was on a ship, I don't remember the name of the ship, but that ship was traveling from England to the United States, Dr. Thomas was a physician, I believe, his father was a minister, but he was not, and the ship ran into some foul weather. And again, we're talking about 1832, the foul weather got really bad, it kind of looked like the ship was going to go down or get tipped over, and Dr. Thomas had a prayer and made a vow, and the vow that he made to God was that if he survived this oceanic voyage that he would just get to the truth of the matter, I believe is more or less the way that he put it. In other words, he was going to go to the Word of God and say what is this all about. Well, as it turns out, as we know, obviously he survived the trip, and he also kept his vow. He made a vow that basically it was going to be the Bible first and what the Bible taught, and nothing blocking it, and he stuck to that vow. And so when he came over into America, he got involved, at the time that he came over, there was actually a reformation going on that was basically doing that very thing. A lot of people were saying, hey, we need to get back to the fundamental principles of what the Bible teaches. So it fit well with what he was looking for. So he got involved first with an organization called the Campbellites. I know most of you probably have heard this story, and that was what they were saying they were doing. We're getting back to the first principles. And so John Thomas got involved with them. He started working on his own studies, and he was, John Thomas was clearly very good at opening up the scriptures starting from the foundation that whatever the scriptures say is true. And he was well received by the Campbellites. In fact, he became somebody that was traveling around preaching for the Campbellites, and he was also writing in the Campbellite magazine. And that was going fairly well for a time. At the time, there were many doctrines that the churches were teaching that didn't match up with scriptural truth. Things like infant baptism, for instance, or going to heaven when you die and these types of things. And as he started to uncover these things, he would preach about them, but he would also put them in the Campbellite magazine. And they were fairly well received for a time. They were fairly well received for a time until the things that he was saying the Bible was teaching didn't sit well with the people in the congregation. Because what happens is as you start to develop these churches, you have these great principles, you know, we're going to stick with the truth of scripture. And they're nice, solid principles, and there are certainly things that people say, okay, I can see where that's true, like the second coming of Christ when you look at scripture, you can tell that, you know, if you look at it honestly and openly, that Christ is coming back, for instance, and John Thomas was telling people that Christ was coming back, and people were saying, oh, that's interesting, I can buy into that. Same thing with infant baptism. Christ was obviously not an infant when he was baptized. John Thomas found that this idea of original sin and having to have it washed away was, I don't know if John Thomas was the only one, there may be others saying this as well, that that didn't really fit with truth, and that was all fine. And then he got to doctrines that people didn't want to give up, like the immortality of the soul, for instance. When you look at scripture, the doctrine that says that when you die, you're not really dead, people like that one. I like that one myself, to be honest with you. If you look at it from a non-truth basis, it's nice. You know, I'm not really dead. My consciousness doesn't really go away. I still live on, or my family still lives on. You know, my grandmother is sitting in heaven watching over me, and that kind of stuff. It's a nice feeling. The problem is, it's not true. And the problem is, when you have a congregation that says we don't want that one, and those congregations, people pay your salary and support your church, then you get a conflict. You have a conflict of conscience, and you have a conflict of interest. And so what the Campbellite basically said to John Thomas was, well, that's nice, but don't talk about that, because our people don't like it. And that, of course, is where, let's say, the rubber hits the road, and you're going to stick to what John Thomas did stick to, which was that fundamental truth of the matter. Or you're going to do what the church tells you to do. And, of course, John Thomas refused to do that, and so he split with those churches. He split with the Campbellites. Later on, he split with the Millerites and all that kind of stuff. And eventually, there were enough people who listened to what he had to say and said, you know, I think that's true as well, and I want to do that as well, stick to the foundational principles that the Bible teaches, knowing that the Bible is the divine word of God. And so, as we know, a community developed from there. Eventually, that community got called the Christadelphians during the Civil War, because they needed a name. And Brother Thomas started a magazine. If you're wondering why I'm going in this direction, it's about the establishment of a magazine. That magazine in 1869 started to be called the Christadelphian. And the Christadelphian magazine has now been around for over 150 years. And as you probably all know, it is edited now by none other than our very own brother, Mark Vincent, that we all know. Mark is over in England editing the Christadelphian. But there was one moment, and I forgot to mention it, and it's a vital point. It's why I went down that road. It's because John Thomas discovered something as he was going through his studies. And it changed him completely. In fact, it changed him so much that he determined he needed to be baptized again. In that case, it was for the third and last time, and the thing was this. He had always believed in hope, and the churches had always taught about hope. You know, basically the hope of salvation, the hope of everlasting life, the hope of the forgiveness of sins, all these marvelous hopes that the Bible does teach. But what John Thomas discovered was that that was not the central hope of scripture. The central hope of scripture is not about redemption. The central hope of scripture is what he eventually called the hope of Israel, which is the hope of the kingdom to come, which is the hope of the glorification of God. That's why we always go back to Numbers 14 and 21, as surely as I live, says God, all the earth will be full of my glory. Redemption and salvation is certainly a byproduct of that hope, but that is not the center of scripture. This is what John Thomas discovered. He discovered that it was not a hope of salvation, it was the hope, the hope of Israel. That's why he named the book Elpis Israel, because that's what Elpis Israel means if you want to play around with language. Elpis Israel means the hope of Israel. Why he didn't just call it the hope of Israel, you'll have to ask him. But he didn't. He called it the Greek name Elpis Israel. Now that hope and that understanding of scripture for him changed everything. Like I say, he felt he had to get baptized again because he hadn't been baptized into the one true hope. And that hope really does change the foundational principles of scripture. It doesn't change that you can't hope of salvation. It doesn't change that Christ died for your sins and all that kind of stuff. But it places God at the center and his plan and purpose instead of man at the center and God serving man, which is to this day still what many of the churches teach. In fact, a couple of years ago, I gave an excitation. And in that excitation, you probably don't remember it. I don't know why you would. But if you did, I talked about a bumper sticker that I saw on a car one day when I was stuck in traffic on the way to work. And this person had a bumper sticker on their car, just one. It wasn't one of those cars like I saw yesterday where, you know, every random thought that the driver ever had is stuck in the back of their car. This was just one simple bumper sticker. And that bumper sticker had the words on it, Ipour soumouave. I did not know what Ipour soumouave was. I didn't even know what language it was. But I was curious that this guy or woman, whoever it was, had chosen this one thing to put on the bumper of their car. Well, what that turned out to be, Ipour soumouave is a quote attributed to the late great scientist and astronomer Galileo Galilei. And the story goes like this. Galileo was persecuted by the church. He was considered a heretic because he taught something that they considered to be heresy. And what he taught was he proved what was actually prior to that a theory that, in fact, the sun doesn't rotate around the earth, the earth rotates around the sun. And this was considered heresy by the church because the church taught the doctrine that God had placed the earth in the center of the universe and everything else in the universe rotates around the earth. And Galileo was a guy who created a telescope that he could look into the stars and all that kind of stuff. And he discovered that, in actual fact, that was incorrect, that in actual fact, the sun doesn't move, it's the earth that moves. So he published it and then he got persecuted for it. And so he had to recant in order to save his skin, he had to recant that teaching even though he knew it was true. So the story goes, whether it's true or not true, it's probably not true, but it's the story that goes, that after he recanted and after he was forgiven, as he basically walked off the stage, he made the statement under his breath, ipur sumoade, which means yet still it moves. Meaning, yeah, I'm going to say it, but it doesn't mean that that's actually what is actually true. So the reason why this person, I'm assuming the reason why this person put this one bumper sticker on his car is not because they were some humongous Galileo fan, though they may have been. But my thought even at the time was, and it's still true today, that what that person was saying was basically that the facts are the facts. You can call it something else, you can say something else is not the facts, but the facts are true whether or not you say that or not, which is basically what Galileo was saying, although he probably didn't say it, he was certainly thinking it. That you can say the universe revolves around the earth, but that don't make it true. And as we know, that's a fairly timely bumper sticker today where we live in a world where basically people are talking about alternative facts. The concept we live in today is basically if you lie and you lie enough times and you get enough people to lie as well, that that lie then becomes true, or at least people then start to perceive it as true. Now whether that lie is true is not really debate, which is what the Empora Summavai says, basically says fact is fact no matter what you want to call it, no matter what you want to call true. You can say it's not, but that doesn't change the fact that in actual fact the earth rotates around the sun. Now if you think about it, it's interesting that Galileo got persecuted for it because the church said, well that throws out scriptural teaching. Scriptural teaching teaches that the sun rotates around the earth. Well in actual fact scriptural teaching doesn't teach that at all. Interestingly enough, I don't think Galileo was trying to prove scripture, but in actual fact he does because when you consider what the sun represents and what the earth represents, Galileo's finding actually fits scriptural truth. And that is that man serves God, not God serves man, right? That's the whole bit about the rotation. If the sun rotates around the earth, then you can teach the doctrine or from that principle, you can teach the doctrine that God acquiesced himself and came down to earth to save man, I guess, from God, which of course is one of the central teachings of all Christianity. I don't know that the church thought, well, if the earth rotates around the sun, you have to throw out the concept of the Trinity, but they were definitely afraid that people were going to start to question the doctrines of the church. And so they said it can't be that way. Well, really the church had nothing to worry about because now in the 21st century, everybody understands that the earth rotates around the sun and yet nobody looks at it from a scriptural perspective. And when you carry through that scriptural analysis, by the way, where metaphorically the sun, not even metaphorically, but from a true standpoint, the sun represents God and man rotates around the earth, then that puts Christ in the position of the moon because the moon is forever associated with the earth. It's connected to the earth. That's the humanity of Christ and yet the moon is the perfect reflection of the light of the sun. That's where the moon gets its light, is from the sun. That's what Christ was. He was the perfect manifestation of God. So in this analogy of spherical things, you could see Christ in the moon and again, it doesn't fly against scriptural doctrine. So that was the hope that John Thomas was writing about in Elpis Israel and that is the hope that carries us through today by the grace of God. Again, it became the Christadelphian Magazine and again, that was in 1869 and of course, what happened after that is other magazines started to pop up, the Tidings Magazine popped up in North America. It's kind of hard to figure out exactly when it popped up. I think it was sometime in the 1830s. I have to ask them at the Tidings exactly what is the history of the Tidings. But anyway, it came up. Oh, no, it was before the 1970s. I thought so too until I went to dig in, but I couldn't quite figure out when it started. But it was around in the 40s and 50s and probably in some smaller degree. But that came up, you know, the Logos in Australia came up, the Advocate came up, all these different magazines all came up and so the question becomes, for what purpose? Why did John Thomas use magazines to promote his teachings? Now, he also spoke and he also wrote books, but magazines was one of the vehicles that he used to get his teachings out there. And I think magazines serve a distinct purpose, some of which has started to go away because of modern technology, with telephones, because one of the things magazines did is it kept everybody in touch. We have different ways today of staying in touch, but I think a magazine can still serve that purpose. The other thing a magazine does is it helps build up a sense of community. You have a Christadelphian magazine for the Christadelphian and helps build up that sort of unity of your community when we are all these separate entities all over the place. And of course, the third thing it does is that it keeps an ongoing dialogue because, you know, a book is a book and you get the book and you read the book, but a magazine is ongoing. You get another one and then another one and then another one and it keeps you, hopefully it keeps you interested in the product, in the truth of scripture. But all these magazines that were around, like the Christadelphian and the Tidings and the Logos and the Advocate, they all had one thing in common and that one thing was that they were English language magazines. Now, it made perfect sense that they were English language magazines because the predominance of people in the Christadelphian community spoke English for quite a bit of time. When the message started to go out, obviously John Thomas started it in America, but he brought it over to England and it caught on over there. Eventually, it went to places like Australia and New Zealand and South Africa and all these English speaking countries. And so it made sense or it made logistical sense, I guess, that your magazines were in English. However, that has now changed and didn't just change in the last month, it's been changing now for quite a few decades. So much so that today, there are more non-speaking, non-English speaking Christadelphians than there are English speaking Christadelphians. I don't know if another language is, I don't know, there's a lot of Swahili, but English is not now the predominant language in our community even though the magazines that exist are all English speaking magazines. So what happened was a few years ago, and Steve might know better than me, but I believe it was the brainchild of Brother Dave Jennings to create a magazine that reached out to these non-speaking Christadelphian communities. Now that's quite a process to take on. It's not just an easy thing to do. But I believe it was Dave that decided. Dave, by the way, is the editor of the Tidings Magazine. He's been doing tremendous stuff with the Tidings. I think he's been the editor for five or six years, and he's done a lot of really terrific stuff with the magazine. But he started between him and I think Alan Markworth, who's the chairman of the Tidings Committee, to put together this idea of creating and offering a magazine, an online magazine, for non-English speaking Christadelphians. And so, again, that's what you have here, really. You'll notice that the High Calling is in multiple languages. It's in English, it's in French, it's in Swahili, Dutch, Filipino, Spanish, I don't know if it, it must be in Spanish. It's also in Farsi, which is what they speak, Iranian brethren speaks. It's in a language called Urdu. I don't remember where Urdu is. It's in Filipino, it's in Chiquiua. It's a magazine basically for that purpose, to reach out and to offer material to these people in their own language. Now, I said that it's not an easy thing to create. There are really five things that they needed to put together. First of all, their idea was that we need to get the other, at least some of the other English speaking magazines involved, basically so that it doesn't just look like it's a tidings thing. First of all, the Christdelfian is known better in these third world countries than the tidings is, so they would recognize the name, but also you want to offer a unified message of hope, of the hope to these people in other countries. And so their idea was to get together several of these different magazines and have us work in, have them work in conjunction and in collaboration with each other, which by the way, not a bad idea. Given the fracturing that has occurred in our community, it's not a bad idea to have the magazines all start lining up and saying, listen, we all agree. There are definite principles that we all agree on. And so as you can see on there, it says the High Calling is an online publication. It is a collaboration between the tidings, the Christdelfian, and Glad Tidings magazines. It also includes some writings from the CBM. With the editorial responsibility being that of the Christdelfian and Tidings magazines, sponsorship of the High Calling is provided by the Christdelfian mission, Bible mission groups. And that's really the second thing that Dave and Ellen needed to put together. First, they needed to get the other magazines on board because these magazines, what they have is they have an incredible archive of expositional and inspirational articles that are basically just sitting in their library. You know, once that magazine is done and read or whatever, you know, what percentage of people go back and say, oh, I'm just dying to read the July of 1942 tidings, or Christdelfian, or whatever, it just basically is just sitting there. And the idea was we could get these magazines to provide these articles and put them in this magazine, which is exactly what is happening. But you needed, but there are costs involved with that because there's no cost on the far end. You're not going to go to your brethren living in a refugee camp in, you know, Mozambique and say, by the way, this magazine is going to cost you $5 a month or whatever. There is no profit margin on this. This is just something that they said we're going to do for our non-English speaking community for obviously for free. But there are costs involved because when you get these articles, first of all, they have to be translated. And yeah, you could stick it into AI and translate it, but as we know with AI, it's never going to be a perfect translation no matter what it is. I don't know how easy it is to translate in AI something into Urdu or into Farsi, but as you know from occasionally reading things online that you can tell are translated into AI, that's really not, that's not the way the language is actually spoken. And so you needed to get translated, so they did. They lined up translators within the Christadelfian community through these Bible mission groups. These Bible mission groups have connections with the non-speaking group that they're responsible for. So, you know, the CBMUK is responsible for communication and connection with Africa. The CBMA is responsible for communication and connection with Central America. So they have the people that you can reach out to, to both translate this but also to distribute this to the people that you know are Christadelfians in El Salvador. I certainly don't know who the Christadelfians are in El Salvador or who's in a refugee camp in Mozambique, but it is the role of these Bible mission groups and they do an incredible job of knowing that. And so they provided the translators. The translators actually get paid to translate. They don't, they're not exceedingly well paid, but they're paid to translate it. So there's a cost there. And then there's a cost of literally publishing it online. You know, the editing, the gathering and the editing of the articles isn't paid for. It's just, it's just done. But you have to then get it published and have it put out there. And there's a Christadelfian individual, I think he's in England, who has a published, an online publishing company and he publishes it. So, and there's a cost with that. And so the second thing he needed to do was line up the Bible mission groups, which he did. They've got CBM UK involved. They've got CBM A. They're working with the CBM in Australia. There are some other organizations like in the Netherlands. There's a Christadelfian organization there. It's not called CBM, but they serve that community there. They work to get these people involved. They work to get these people to make an offering of donations because it is their mission people that are going to be getting this magazine. So he, they coordinated that. They also coordinated an editor. Dave was, and at this moment still is the editor of the Hive Calling, as well as the editor of the Tidings Magazine, but Dave is retired. Dave has again done an incredible job with both the Tidings and the Hive Calling, but Dave is an older gentleman. I'm not sure exactly how old Dave is. Early 70s, I'm going to guess, but he wants to spend more time with his kids and his grandkids, and that's certainly understandable. And so somebody has to gather this stuff, has to edit and format the articles, and has to promote and be sort of like the front person for this magazine. And so obviously going to be somebody with the tidings because it's really the tidings that does all the work. The Christadelfian submits their articles and the Christadelfian review the articles before they go out, but it's really the tidings that does the work. And so that's, in case you're curious, where I come in. Back about a year and a half ago, Dave Jennings called me up, much to my surprise, and asked me, he started talking about different things with the fact that he's retiring, and I wasn't really sure what he was talking about, but eventually we got around to the point after a couple of different phone calls that what he was looking for was somebody to take over the editing of this magazine. Now understand, I have never edited anything in my life. I don't know how to edit, and I can guarantee you, I'm not good at it. In fact, I don't know if I used the expression with Dave, but it was certainly true. I should have said to him, what you have is the wrong Jones, Mr. Donovan, because this is not my forte. And Dave's, oh no, you'll be able to do it. It's really easy once you learn how. Unfortunately for Dave, he has discovered that it's not easy for me to learn how. I've been editing these things now for about five months, and I edit them, and I send it back to him, and then he sends it back to me going wrong, wrong, wrong. And so if a month from now you discover that somebody else is the editor of the high calling rather than me, it's because Dave got a little frustrated with the fact that I'm just not good at this type of thing. Which, at least in my defense, I told him so from the very beginning. However, the reason why I was interested in it, first of all, interestingly enough, he called me right before I went in for, I started my radiation and chemo, so I'm like your timing is not good. And so he said, well, can we reach out after you go through your treatments? And I said, sure. And so while I was, and he did, he reached out after my treatments were done, about two weeks after my treatments were done, and I was like, well, I'm still not in a great shape, but we can talk about it. Well, here's why I said, yeah, I would do this. First of all, it was an opportunity to serve the larger Christdelfian community. That's not an opportunity that comes around to somebody like me very often. You know, I'm not, Steve mentioned Bob Lloyd. I'm not Bob Lloyd, but nobody's asking me to go to India to speak, nor would I be in any condition to go to India if they did ask. But this was an opportunity that where I could literally get involved in something that is helping these non-English speaking brethren, worldwide brethren, and that was very, very appealing to me. As most of you know, we've been doing similar things with the Bible school and the Swahili brethren, getting them involved and coming to the Bible school and telling people about what these people have gone through and all of that. So that was very appealing to me. The other thing that was very appealing to me was the fact that it was going to be a collaborative effort. That I thought was, I think, is really, really important, that it be a collaborative effort and not just the tidings reaching out, because we are talking about reaching out to people in the world that doesn't have this connection to mainstream Christdelfia. And again, as you know, mainstream Christdelfia can be a dodgy place. But that's not what the high calling is all about. In fact, the other reason I really was interested is because of the title, the high calling, and what that represents. Because the high calling represents preaching and teaching the good news. The high calling does not, that concept of high calling does not represent, you know, whether or not there's amended or unamended, or whether or not there's commended or uncommended, or whether or not brothers so and so should be disfellowshipped or all that kind of stuff. The high calling is about just what it is. It's about the high calling in Christ Jesus. It's about the transformation that takes place in the individual. There are serious challenges to this magazine because you are sending information and articles out to people living in a very, very different culture than where you come from. You know, if somebody in England writes an article, and we read it in America, there might be cultural differences. They might call taxis something different, or elevators something different. But the basic world we live in isn't all that different. However, the world that a brother in a refugee camp in Mozambique is living in is going to be vastly different than living in Marshfield, Massachusetts. Now that being said, the truth doesn't change. The gospel isn't different in Mozambique than it is in Massachusetts. Christ's sacrifice isn't different in Iran than it is in Adelboro. The truth is the truth is the truth. The hope, the message, the gospel is the same. But the cultures are different. And so you have to be careful when you're putting together the articles for this magazine that they don't somehow clash against another culture. I'll give you an example. One of the Bible mission communities, there was an article produced for one of the months, and they pushed back on the article. And the reason they pushed back on the article was because if you read the article sort of like piecemeal, you could make the suggestion that what the article was teaching was Holy Spirit gifts. Now that's not what, I actually got to read the article, that's not what the article was teaching. And if you took the article in the full context that you did, you'd see it's not teaching that. But these brothers in this mission area are doing mission work in an area where Holy Spirit gifts is very strong as a doctrinal principle. There are many, many people that believe in this idea that, you know, the guy comes over and touches your forehead and you pass out and that kind of stuff. So they said, listen, that article is not going to work here, so they took the article out. There's all those kind of stuff. I started editing, I selected an article this past month from the previous tidings. And of course, in typical form, and this is why I say I'm not good at this kind of stuff, I chose the article after reading about the first three sentences. So, oh, this sounds like a good article, I'll use this one. Well, as I started editing the article, I got about one page into the article and I realized there was quite a bit in there about the different translations of the English Bible. You know, the brother was talking about the King James says this, but the ESV says that, and this is why you want to go with this. Well, that's not going to work in this magazine because this magazine, the people in, you know, in France don't care about the ESV or the King James. That's not the one that they read. So there's those challenges involved in this magazine. But there's no challenge to the hope. There's no challenge to the good news of the Bible. And so I said, yes, I'll do this. I said, you recognize that you're asking an old man to do this. Yes, we recognize we're asking an old man. Are you retired, by the way? I am not. Oh, see, because it would be helpful if you were retired. I'm sure it would. However, I am not. So why am I bringing this up to you? Well, basically, just because I, did that not come up? Oops, sorry. I just want you to take a look at it, first of all. First of all, pray for me as I do this. Prayer is always good and I'm going to need it. Because, like I say, Dave is getting very frustrated with me that I'm not mastering the concept of editing. I'm trying. But secondly, I want to get people to know about it. The website is thehighcalling.net. Not difficult to remember. Again, one of the languages it's in is in English. If you want to read it in Farsi, go right ahead. I wish you the best. But just take a look at it and let me know what you think of it, first of all. Give me your opinion on it. If you're a good editor and you want somebody here or somebody online, if you're, oh, editing is my thing. I have a cousin. Unfortunately, she's older and got dementia now. But any time I would want something edited, I would send it to her because she was a proofreader. That's what she did. That was her vocation. I could probably use some help. I've actually already started to teach Josh how to edit. I don't know if he's going to be any better at it than I am. I think he's of the same ilk that I am. But there's that. But also, I'm hoping that people will tell other people about it. One of the things that's been discovered, yes, because the mission groups are reaching out to these other areas of the world and telling them about the high colon, some people in other areas know about it. But just the very people around us have no idea that the tidings and the Christadelphian have done this. And you ought to know. You ought to know that this magazine is out there. And the articles, you know, one of the great things I get to do is I get to select what articles go in there. And so I see a Steve Davis article, boom, it's in there right away. If I see an article that is about, you know, fractionalization, I don't see, my problem is I don't, you know, I don't have time for that stuff anymore. Yeah? Well, they don't have a physical magazine. What they do have, even in these third world areas, is a cell phone. Cell phone. Cell phone, yeah. Yeah. That means they have the internet. Yeah? Cell phone. Cell phone. Cell, C-E-L-L, cell phone. Yeah. Yeah. They have smart phones. Remarkably enough. So yeah, they can get it. I mean, maybe not everybody at this point, but many, many, many people in these other countries that speak other languages. Certainly in France, they had cell phones and computers. You know, somebody in Africa doesn't have a computer, but he does have a cell phone. So remarkably enough, that's how, and they have internet. So yeah. So that's how they do it. So that is the high calling. Now, what I'm hoping to do, and I've got to wrap this up because it's 10, 15. I'm hoping to put together a series of classes that talk about what this high calling is. You notice it's not higher calling, because we are called not to a better calling than somebody else. We are called to a new calling, to a high calling. And so there's many verses in scripture. There's many contexts in scripture that talk about what this high calling is. And Lord willing, we're going to be looking at those moving forward. As my Sunday school time comes up, which I'm not quite sure at this moment when that is. Any other questions? I'm sorry, I didn't mean to yell. It's just I kept saying cell, and it was like, she's not hearing me. Anything else? Yeah, listen. They have. They have, yes. So that's one of the challenges, because they've been edited the Christadelphian way, or they've been editing the Glad Tidings way, or they've been edited the CBM way, but they haven't been editing the Tidings way. And Dave is one of these, and I love Dave, Dave is one of these guys, he likes things done a certain way, and he wants to have everything, because they're going out together, he wants it all coordinated that way. And so there's a lot of this, almost no editing involved in Steve Davis's article or Jim Sullivan's article, but there's a great deal of editing involved in Brother Mark's article, because Brother Mark puts it together in a different way. For instance, England, they use some different spellings on words, and one of the editing processes is to put it all in the same font, to put it all in the same style, to put it together that way, put quotes in the right way, and all that kind of stuff. So there really is quite a bit of, I was surprised as well, because when he first said to me, he said, boy, editing is there, it's already done, if life were so easy. So I understand your question, but that is the challenge.