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and<00:11:42.000><c> in</c><00:11:42.200><c> Bible</c><00:11:42.480><c> class</c><00:11:42.720><c> considerations.</c>

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It<00:11:44.980><c> seems</c><00:11:45.240><c> to</c><00:11:45.379><c> me,</c><00:11:45.779><c> too,</c><00:11:46.139><c> in</c><00:11:46.240><c> our</c><00:11:46.460><c> last</c><00:11:46.759><c> reason</c>

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for<00:11:47.740><c> selling</c><00:11:47.860><c> the</c><00:11:48.100><c> Atonement</c><00:11:48.399><c> for</c><00:11:48.559><c> this</c><00:11:48.779><c> three</c><00:11:48.940><c>-week</c><00:11:49.080><c> series,</c>

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that<00:11:51.159><c> if</c><00:11:51.320><c> one</c><00:11:51.659><c> understands</c><00:11:52.299><c> the</c><00:11:52.639><c> Atonement</c><00:11:53.120><c> thoroughly</c>

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then<00:11:54.879><c> I</c><00:11:55.139><c> think</c><00:11:55.360><c> the</c><00:11:55.940><c> advocate,</c><00:11:56.759><c> uncommitted</c><00:11:57.460><c> problem</c><00:11:58.059><c> in</c><00:11:58.759><c> America</c>

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is<00:11:59.980><c> capable</c><00:12:00.360><c> of</c><00:12:00.659><c> resolution.</c>

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especially<00:12:04.919><c> in</c><00:12:05.080><c> our</c><00:12:05.340><c> second</c><00:12:05.840><c> address,</c>

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to<00:12:06.840><c> consider</c><00:12:07.200><c> the</c><00:12:07.440><c> inherited</c><00:12:07.820><c> alienation</c><00:12:08.559><c> in</c><00:12:08.899><c> detail,</c>

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that<00:12:10.559><c> the</c><00:12:10.899><c> Resurrectional</c><00:12:11.799><c> issue,</c>

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which<00:12:12.980><c> has</c><00:12:13.259><c> divided</c><00:12:13.659><c> many</c><00:12:14.039><c> place</c><00:12:14.299><c> in</c><00:12:14.559><c> Americas,</c>

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is<00:12:16.019><c> only</c><00:12:16.320><c> the</c><00:12:16.580><c> branch</c><00:12:16.860><c> of</c><00:12:17.200><c> the</c><00:12:17.299><c> problem,</c>

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is<00:12:17.759><c> not</c><00:12:18.080><c> the</c><00:12:18.240><c> root.</c>

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The<00:12:19.440><c> root</c><00:12:19.580><c> of</c><00:12:19.779><c> the</c><00:12:19.980><c> problem</c><00:12:20.379><c> was</c><00:12:20.899><c> the</c><00:12:21.139><c> doctrine</c><00:12:21.460><c> of</c><00:12:21.840><c> the</c><00:12:22.000><c> Atonement.</c>

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And<00:12:23.580><c> unfortunately</c><00:12:23.980><c> many</c><00:12:24.360><c> today</c><00:12:24.740><c> hold</c><00:12:25.320><c> the</c><00:12:25.840><c> Resurrectional</c><00:12:26.679><c> question</c>

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to<00:12:27.080><c> be</c><00:12:27.240><c> an</c><00:12:27.480><c> issue</c><00:12:27.860><c> in</c><00:12:28.100><c> the</c><00:12:28.240><c> Unamended</c><00:12:28.600><c> Fellowship,</c>

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have<00:12:30.279><c> never</c><00:12:30.500><c> taken</c><00:12:30.799><c> the</c><00:12:31.059><c> time,</c>

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have<00:12:31.460><c> never</c><00:12:31.659><c> been</c><00:12:31.879><c> exposed</c><00:12:32.320><c> to</c><00:12:32.519><c> the</c><00:12:32.759><c> information</c>

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which<00:12:34.080><c> shows</c><00:12:34.340><c> them</c><00:12:34.539><c> the</c><00:12:34.720><c> way</c><00:12:34.960><c> in</c><00:12:35.120><c> which</c>

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Resurrectional<00:12:36.940><c> responsibility</c>

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is<00:12:38.519><c> the</c><00:12:38.740><c> result</c><00:12:39.379><c> of</c><00:12:39.840><c> a</c><00:12:40.039><c> former</c><00:12:40.259><c> teaching</c><00:12:40.600><c> on</c><00:12:40.860><c> the</c><00:12:41.039><c> Atonement.</c>

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And<00:12:42.580><c> so</c><00:12:42.820><c> often</c><00:12:43.100><c> we</c><00:12:43.340><c> have</c><00:12:43.539><c> sat</c><00:12:43.700><c> down</c><00:12:44.000><c> with</c><00:12:44.240><c> persons</c>

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of<00:12:45.320><c> the</c><00:12:45.500><c> Unamended</c><00:12:45.919><c> Fellowship</c>

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to<00:12:47.340><c> try</c><00:12:47.539><c> to</c><00:12:47.840><c> hammer</c><00:12:48.039><c> out</c><00:12:48.320><c> the</c><00:12:48.559><c> fact</c><00:12:48.799><c> that</c>

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light<00:12:49.440><c> is</c><00:12:49.720><c> the</c><00:12:49.899><c> basis</c><00:12:50.139><c> of</c><00:12:50.460><c> accountability</c><00:12:50.940><c> for</c><00:12:51.279><c> God</c>

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and<00:12:52.580><c> that</c><00:12:52.860><c> whether</c><00:12:53.039><c> or</c><00:12:53.279><c> not</c><00:12:53.519><c> one</c><00:12:53.740><c> is</c><00:12:53.940><c> baptized</c>

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is<00:12:55.779><c> not</c><00:12:56.100><c> the</c><00:12:56.320><c> issue</c><00:12:56.879><c> in</c><00:12:57.299><c> Resurrection,</c>

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it's<00:12:58.860><c> accountability</c><00:12:59.500><c> on</c><00:12:59.799><c> the</c><00:12:59.919><c> basis</c><00:13:00.100><c> of</c><00:13:00.419><c> light.</c>

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Only<00:13:01.580><c> to</c><00:13:01.799><c> find</c><00:13:01.980><c> that</c><00:13:02.240><c> our</c><00:13:02.419><c> argument</c>

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seemed<00:13:03.000><c> rather</c><00:13:03.440><c> unconvincing</c><00:13:04.220><c> to</c><00:13:04.440><c> the</c><00:13:04.580><c> other</c><00:13:04.779><c> person</c>

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because<00:13:06.120><c> he</c><00:13:06.419><c> has</c><00:13:07.059><c> inherited</c><00:13:07.700><c> a</c><00:13:08.019><c> legacy</c>

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of<00:13:09.220><c> teaching</c><00:13:09.480><c> about</c><00:13:09.840><c> the</c><00:13:10.039><c> Atonement,</c>

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the<00:13:11.059><c> language</c><00:13:11.419><c> of</c><00:13:11.659><c> which,</c><00:13:11.860><c> for</c><00:13:12.120><c> example,</c>

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he<00:13:12.539><c> may</c><00:13:12.779><c> not</c><00:13:13.059><c> fully</c><00:13:13.240><c> understand.</c>

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I<00:13:15.059><c> know</c><00:13:15.200><c> I</c><00:13:15.340><c> can</c><00:13:15.480><c> remember</c><00:13:15.639><c> myself</c><00:13:16.179><c> traveling</c><00:13:16.559><c> across</c><00:13:17.039><c> Canada</c>

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and<00:13:18.320><c> being</c><00:13:18.580><c> confronted</c><00:13:19.039><c> with</c><00:13:19.360><c> a</c><00:13:19.500><c> person</c>

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in<00:13:19.840><c> the</c><00:13:19.960><c> Unamended</c><00:13:20.340><c> Fellowship</c><00:13:20.799><c> who</c><00:13:21.100><c> told</c><00:13:21.299><c> me</c>

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that<00:13:22.080><c> they</c><00:13:22.220><c> were</c><00:13:22.500><c> baptized</c><00:13:23.019><c> for</c><00:13:23.360><c> Adam's</c><00:13:23.799><c> sin</c>

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and<00:13:24.779><c> I</c><00:13:24.840><c> couldn't</c><00:13:25.080><c> figure</c><00:13:25.340><c> out</c><00:13:25.460><c> how</c><00:13:25.600><c> this</c><00:13:25.799><c> could</c><00:13:25.960><c> be</c><00:13:26.179><c> possible</c>

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and<00:13:27.559><c> I</c><00:13:27.679><c> didn't</c><00:13:27.860><c> know</c><00:13:27.960><c> what</c><00:13:28.159><c> the</c><00:13:28.320><c> issue</c><00:13:28.580><c> was</c>

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but<00:13:29.139><c> they</c><00:13:29.399><c> took</c><00:13:29.559><c> serious</c><00:13:30.039><c> issue</c><00:13:30.620><c> with</c><00:13:31.159><c> the</c>

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amended<00:13:32.139><c> teaching</c><00:13:32.559><c> because</c><00:13:32.879><c> we</c><00:13:33.220><c> talked</c><00:13:33.419><c> about</c>

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baptism<00:13:34.179><c> for</c><00:13:34.460><c> personal</c><00:13:34.899><c> sins</c>

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is<00:13:39.539><c> only</c><00:13:40.100><c> partly</c><00:13:40.539><c> valid</c>

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because<00:13:41.759><c> we've</c><00:13:42.120><c> forgotten</c><00:13:42.360><c> all</c><00:13:42.639><c> about</c><00:13:42.820><c> Adam's</c><00:13:43.200><c> sin.</c>

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And<00:13:44.519><c> it</c><00:13:44.659><c> never</c><00:13:44.899><c> clicked</c><00:13:45.399><c> as</c><00:13:45.740><c> to</c><00:13:45.899><c> what</c><00:13:46.000><c> this</c><00:13:46.360><c> meant</c>

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when<00:13:48.379><c> I</c><00:13:48.539><c> began</c><00:13:48.820><c> to</c><00:13:49.080><c> study</c><00:13:49.279><c> the</c><00:13:49.460><c> opponents</c>

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that<00:13:49.940><c> I</c><00:13:50.039><c> saw</c><00:13:50.500><c> what</c><00:13:50.860><c> this</c><00:13:51.139><c> person</c><00:13:51.460><c> meant</c>

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Now<00:13:56.080><c> since</c><00:13:56.299><c> so</c><00:13:56.679><c> often</c><00:13:56.960><c> tonight</c><00:13:57.299><c> we</c><00:13:57.539><c> will</c><00:13:57.840><c> refer</c><00:13:58.220><c> to</c>

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clean<00:14:00.279><c> flesh</c><00:14:00.960><c> and</c><00:14:01.899><c> inherited</c><00:14:02.480><c> alienation,</c>

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I<00:14:04.039><c> will</c><00:14:04.320><c> try</c><00:14:04.620><c> as</c><00:14:04.980><c> simply</c><00:14:05.240><c> as</c><00:14:05.460><c> I</c><00:14:05.740><c> can</c>

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to<00:14:06.259><c> outline</c><00:14:06.759><c> what</c><00:14:07.539><c> these</c><00:14:07.840><c> terms</c><00:14:08.120><c> mean.</c>

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Can<00:14:09.539><c> we</c><00:14:09.679><c> turn</c><00:14:09.919><c> first</c><00:14:10.200><c> to</c><00:14:10.399><c> the</c><00:14:10.580><c> outline,</c><00:14:11.159><c> please,</c>

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and<00:14:12.159><c> look</c><00:14:12.419><c> at</c><00:14:12.600><c> the</c><00:14:12.840><c> history</c>

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of<00:14:14.559><c> the</c><00:14:14.799><c> Atonement's</c><00:14:15.620><c> particular</c><00:14:15.820><c> ideology</c><00:14:16.240><c> and</c><00:14:16.500><c> community.</c>

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I<00:14:17.559><c> hope</c><00:14:17.799><c> to</c><00:14:17.940><c> be</c><00:14:18.059><c> able</c><00:14:18.240><c> to</c><00:14:18.399><c> give</c><00:14:18.519><c> you</c>

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a<00:14:18.720><c> more</c><00:14:19.039><c> comprehensive</c><00:14:19.720><c> analysis</c><00:14:20.440><c> for</c><00:14:21.519><c> next</c><00:14:21.779><c> week.</c>

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This<00:14:22.259><c> only</c><00:14:22.480><c> takes</c><00:14:22.740><c> us</c><00:14:22.980><c> to</c><00:14:23.139><c> the</c><00:14:23.259><c> year</c><00:14:23.460><c> 1894</c>

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but<00:14:27.620><c> certainly</c><00:14:27.980><c> provides</c><00:14:28.419><c> us</c><00:14:28.679><c> with</c><00:14:28.899><c> the</c>

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major<00:14:30.399><c> issues</c><00:14:31.240><c> that</c><00:14:32.100><c> divided</c><00:14:32.419><c> the</c>

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Christodalian<00:14:33.360><c> community.</c>

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From<00:14:36.320><c> 1848</c><00:14:37.080><c> to</c><00:14:37.679><c> 1871</c>

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as<00:14:42.139><c> set</c><00:14:42.299><c> out</c><00:14:42.419><c> in</c><00:14:42.700><c> Altus</c><00:14:43.039><c> Israel</c>

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experienced<00:14:44.860><c> no</c><00:14:45.320><c> major</c><00:14:45.700><c> divergences</c>

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in<00:14:46.899><c> our</c><00:14:47.120><c> literature</c><00:14:47.460><c> for</c><00:14:47.720><c> 20</c><00:14:47.980><c> years.</c>

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Now<00:14:50.080><c> there</c><00:14:50.240><c> were</c><00:14:50.480><c> some</c><00:14:51.080><c> slight</c><00:14:51.480><c> differences</c>

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as<00:14:52.340><c> to</c><00:14:52.440><c> whether</c><00:14:52.639><c> sin</c><00:14:52.879><c> in</c><00:14:53.080><c> 2</c><00:14:53.320><c> Corinthians</c><00:14:53.779><c> 5</c>

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meant<00:14:54.860><c> sin</c><00:14:55.139><c> offering</c><00:14:55.399><c> or</c><00:14:55.700><c> sin.</c>

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There<00:14:56.659><c> were</c><00:14:56.860><c> differences</c><00:14:57.279><c> in</c><00:14:57.480><c> the</c><00:14:57.559><c> literature</c>

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but<00:14:58.019><c> of</c><00:14:58.220><c> course</c><00:14:58.399><c> this</c><00:14:58.639><c> didn't</c><00:14:58.779><c> amount</c><00:14:59.139><c> to</c><00:14:59.259><c> anything.</c>

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Then<00:15:06.500><c> a</c><00:15:06.639><c> man</c><00:15:06.919><c> called</c><00:15:07.279><c> David</c><00:15:07.720><c> Hanley</c><00:15:08.200><c> of</c><00:15:08.500><c> Malden</c>

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came<00:15:11.000><c> up</c><00:15:11.240><c> with</c><00:15:11.460><c> this</c><00:15:11.759><c> doctrine</c><00:15:12.139><c> of</c><00:15:12.620><c> clean</c><00:15:12.980><c> flesh</c>

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and<00:15:14.360><c> the</c><00:15:14.639><c> substitutionary</c><00:15:15.919><c> sacrifice</c><00:15:16.539><c> of</c><00:15:16.779><c> Christ</c><00:15:17.039><c> Jesus.</c>

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Now<00:15:18.120><c> of</c><00:15:18.259><c> course</c><00:15:18.399><c> that's</c><00:15:18.799><c> the</c><00:15:18.980><c> erroneous</c>

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view<00:15:19.740><c> of</c><00:15:20.000><c> the</c><00:15:20.139><c> Trinitarians.</c>

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And<00:15:22.259><c> in</c><00:15:22.440><c> the</c><00:15:22.639><c> past,</c><00:15:23.100><c> in</c><00:15:23.100><c> very</c><00:15:23.419><c> graphic</c><00:15:23.820><c> terms,</c>

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evangelists<00:15:25.080><c> have</c><00:15:25.360><c> painted</c><00:15:25.899><c> the</c><00:15:26.220><c> Lord</c><00:15:26.440><c> Jesus</c><00:15:26.840><c> Christ</c>

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rescuing<00:15:28.419><c> the</c><00:15:29.120><c> world</c><00:15:29.580><c> by,</c><00:15:30.419><c> as</c><00:15:30.600><c> it</c><00:15:30.759><c> were,</c>

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in<00:15:31.120><c> their</c><00:15:31.399><c> terminology,</c><00:15:32.299><c> coming</c><00:15:32.580><c> to</c><00:15:32.779><c> the</c><00:15:33.019><c> scaffold</c>

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and<00:15:33.980><c> taking</c><00:15:34.299><c> the</c><00:15:34.559><c> place</c><00:15:34.759><c> of</c><00:15:35.100><c> the</c><00:15:35.100><c> condemned</c><00:15:35.360><c> man.</c>

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Substitution,<00:15:38.279><c> where</c><00:15:38.899><c> Jesus,</c><00:15:39.940><c> the</c><00:15:40.179><c> innocent</c><00:15:40.659><c> victim,</c>

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suffers<00:15:42.179><c> the</c><00:15:42.539><c> punishment,</c><00:15:43.299><c> rightfully</c><00:15:43.860><c> do,</c>

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the<00:15:45.620><c> condemned</c><00:15:45.980><c> person.</c>

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So<00:15:48.100><c> influenced</c><00:15:48.419><c> by</c><00:15:49.159><c> the</c><00:15:49.480><c> teaching</c><00:15:49.679><c> of</c><00:15:49.899><c> the</c><00:15:50.059><c> churches,</c>

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David<00:15:51.580><c> Hanley</c><00:15:51.919><c> of</c><00:15:52.240><c> Malden</c><00:15:53.500><c> commenced</c>

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to<00:15:54.860><c> publicize</c><00:15:55.440><c> his</c><00:15:55.720><c> views</c><00:15:55.940><c> in</c><00:15:56.279><c> 1871.</c>

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Well,<00:15:59.240><c> it</c><00:15:59.480><c> was</c><00:15:59.720><c> a</c><00:15:59.919><c> short</c><00:16:00.240><c>-lived</c><00:16:00.919><c> experience</c>

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for<00:16:03.340><c> David</c><00:16:03.720><c> Hanley</c><00:16:04.059><c> because</c><00:16:04.419><c> he</c><00:16:04.720><c> soon</c><00:16:04.899><c> realized</c>

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the<00:16:05.679><c> error</c><00:16:05.879><c> of</c><00:16:06.059><c> his</c><00:16:06.240><c> way.</c>

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And<00:16:08.200><c> by</c><00:16:08.519><c> 1873</c><00:16:09.480><c> Hanley</c><00:16:10.100><c> had</c><00:16:10.399><c> given</c><00:16:10.600><c> up</c>

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his<00:16:11.200><c> clean</c><00:16:11.480><c> flesh</c><00:16:11.799><c> views.</c>

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But<00:16:13.679><c> there</c><00:16:13.860><c> was</c><00:16:14.059><c> a</c><00:16:14.240><c> man,</c><00:16:14.720><c> Edward</c><00:16:15.120><c> Turney,</c>

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who<00:16:16.799><c> was</c><00:16:17.139><c> a</c><00:16:17.379><c> very</c><00:16:17.940><c> competent</c><00:16:18.399><c> and</c><00:16:18.659><c> very</c><00:16:19.100><c> accomplished</c>

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and<00:16:19.960><c> influential</c><00:16:20.379><c> speaker.</c>

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There's<00:16:24.039><c> two</c><00:16:24.179><c> things</c><00:16:24.460><c> here.</c>

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I'll<00:16:28.299><c> probably</c><00:16:28.559><c> take</c><00:16:28.740><c> up</c><00:16:28.919><c> these</c><00:16:29.120><c> two</c><00:16:29.340><c> handouts</c><00:16:29.759><c> here</c>

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to<00:16:30.139><c> follow</c><00:16:30.320><c> through.</c>

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No<00:16:31.860><c> balls.</c>

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Edward<00:16:38.080><c> Turney</c><00:16:38.620><c> happened</c><00:16:39.240><c> to</c><00:16:39.500><c> be</c><00:16:39.840><c> in</c><00:16:40.000><c> a</c><00:16:40.220><c> library</c>

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of<00:16:41.259><c> a</c><00:16:41.419><c> Brother</c><00:16:41.679><c> Roberts,</c><00:16:42.340><c> not</c><00:16:42.539><c> Brother</c><00:16:42.879><c> Robert</c><00:16:43.220><c> Roberts,</c>

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and<00:16:43.720><c> when</c><00:16:43.860><c> he</c><00:16:43.899><c> was</c><00:16:44.080><c> in</c><00:16:44.279><c> there,</c><00:16:44.440><c> he</c><00:16:44.679><c> saw</c><00:16:44.860><c> two</c><00:16:45.120><c> volumes</c>

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of<00:16:45.899><c> the</c><00:16:46.120><c> Lamb.</c>

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And<00:16:47.179><c> these</c><00:16:47.299><c> had</c><00:16:47.500><c> been</c><00:16:47.659><c> earlier</c><00:16:48.059><c> published</c><00:16:48.480><c> by</c><00:16:48.779><c> David</c><00:16:49.120><c> Hanley.</c>

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And<00:16:51.620><c> he</c><00:16:52.159><c> began</c><00:16:52.700><c> to</c><00:16:53.340><c> expound</c><00:16:54.019><c> on</c><00:16:54.299><c> the</c><00:16:54.539><c> teaching</c><00:16:54.980><c> of</c><00:16:55.980><c> Hanley.</c>

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Now,<00:16:56.759><c> Hanley</c><00:16:56.899><c> had</c><00:16:57.120><c> given</c><00:16:57.299><c> up</c><00:16:57.799><c> his</c><00:16:58.039><c> clean</c><00:16:58.259><c> flesh</c><00:16:58.559><c> views</c>

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by<00:16:59.000><c> 1873,</c><00:17:00.659><c> but</c><00:17:00.779><c> Edward</c><00:17:01.100><c> Turney,</c>

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this<00:17:02.440><c> very</c><00:17:02.980><c> influential</c><00:17:03.600><c> brother,</c>

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got<00:17:05.019><c> up</c><00:17:05.119><c> at</c><00:17:05.180><c> an</c><00:17:05.400><c> exhortation</c><00:17:05.940><c> in</c><00:17:06.140><c> his</c><00:17:06.339><c> Nottingham</c><00:17:06.779><c> Ecclesia</c>

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and<00:17:08.259><c> set</c><00:17:08.440><c> about</c><00:17:08.740><c> to</c><00:17:09.140><c> renounce</c><00:17:09.819><c> everything</c><00:17:10.380><c> he</c><00:17:10.559><c> had</c><00:17:10.740><c> formerly</c><00:17:11.059><c> held</c>

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by<00:17:12.619><c> way</c><00:17:12.880><c> of</c><00:17:13.019><c> Christendom</c><00:17:13.480><c> in</c><00:17:13.680><c> teaching</c><00:17:13.960><c> on</c><00:17:14.180><c> the</c><00:17:14.319><c> Toulmin.</c>

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Hence<00:17:15.400><c> you</c><00:17:15.599><c> have</c><00:17:15.759><c> this</c><00:17:16.099><c> word,</c><00:17:17.059><c> renunciation,</c>

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as<00:17:18.319><c> in</c><00:17:18.440><c> our</c><00:17:18.599><c> literature,</c><00:17:19.140><c> or</c><00:17:19.339><c> free</c><00:17:19.660><c> life.</c>

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He<00:17:21.559><c> renounced</c><00:17:22.079><c> his</c><00:17:22.380><c> former</c><00:17:22.680><c> dues.</c>

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The<00:17:24.599><c> air</c><00:17:24.819><c> spread</c><00:17:25.140><c> to</c><00:17:25.339><c> Birmingham,</c><00:17:25.859><c> where</c><00:17:26.059><c> he</c><00:17:26.220><c> was</c><00:17:26.420><c> invited</c>

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to<00:17:26.920><c> speak</c><00:17:27.200><c> in</c><00:17:27.420><c> the</c><00:17:27.519><c> Temperance</c><00:17:27.880><c> Hall</c><00:17:28.140><c> of</c><00:17:28.299><c> Ecclesia,</c>

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and<00:17:29.200><c> he</c><00:17:29.359><c> lectured</c><00:17:29.619><c> for</c><00:17:29.880><c> two</c><00:17:30.059><c> and</c><00:17:30.240><c> a</c><00:17:30.299><c> half</c><00:17:30.460><c> hours,</c>

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but<00:17:31.980><c> terminated</c><00:17:32.380><c> his</c><00:17:32.599><c> remarks</c><00:17:33.079><c> in</c><00:17:33.279><c> such</c><00:17:33.500><c> a</c><00:17:33.619><c> way</c>

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that<00:17:33.819><c> there</c><00:17:34.000><c> was</c><00:17:34.160><c> no</c><00:17:34.420><c> time</c><00:17:34.579><c> left</c><00:17:34.779><c> for</c><00:17:35.039><c> questions.</c>

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And<00:17:37.079><c> so</c><00:17:37.299><c> this</c><00:17:37.619><c> new</c><00:17:37.920><c> light</c><00:17:38.220><c> that</c><00:17:38.599><c> he</c><00:17:38.859><c> presented</c>

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was<00:17:40.039><c> replied</c><00:17:40.539><c> to</c><00:17:41.279><c> by</c><00:17:41.799><c> Robert</c><00:17:42.359><c> Roberts</c><00:17:42.859><c> in</c><00:17:43.339><c> 1873</c>

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in<00:17:44.740><c> his</c><00:17:45.019><c> own</c><00:17:45.319><c> lecture</c><00:17:45.619><c> called</c><00:17:45.940><c> The</c><00:17:48.980><c> Slain</c><00:17:49.299><c> Lamb,</c>

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which<00:17:49.920><c> replied</c><00:17:50.400><c> to</c><00:17:50.859><c> Turney's</c><00:17:51.339><c> lecture,</c>

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The<00:17:52.180><c> Sacrifice</c><00:17:52.579><c> of</c><00:17:52.859><c> Christ.</c>

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You<00:17:55.279><c> see</c><00:17:55.640><c> there</c><00:17:55.779><c> the</c><00:17:55.940><c> quotation,</c>

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the<00:17:56.940><c> way</c><00:17:57.440><c> Edward</c><00:17:57.799><c> Turney</c><00:17:58.079><c> opened</c><00:17:58.420><c> his</c><00:17:58.680><c> address.</c>

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I<00:18:00.339><c> am</c><00:18:00.619><c> here</c><00:18:00.900><c> tonight</c><00:18:01.240><c> in</c><00:18:01.480><c> response</c><00:18:02.000><c> to</c><00:18:02.259><c> several</c><00:18:02.660><c> invitations</c>

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and<00:18:03.660><c> writings</c><00:18:03.940><c> to</c><00:18:04.220><c> set</c><00:18:04.380><c> before</c><00:18:04.759><c> you</c><00:18:05.400><c> the</c><00:18:05.839><c> new</c><00:18:06.160><c> light</c>

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which<00:18:06.680><c> I</c><00:18:06.880><c> have</c><00:18:07.019><c> received</c><00:18:07.380><c> from</c><00:18:07.759><c> conversation</c>

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with<00:18:08.980><c> our</c><00:18:09.200><c> brother,</c><00:18:09.539><c> Hanley</c><00:18:09.779><c> of</c><00:18:10.019><c> Malden.</c>

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It<00:18:11.400><c> may</c><00:18:11.619><c> have</c><00:18:11.759><c> been</c><00:18:11.880><c> new</c><00:18:12.019><c> as</c><00:18:12.259><c> far</c><00:18:12.440><c> as</c><00:18:12.599><c> Christendelfians</c><00:18:13.180><c> were</c><00:18:13.400><c> concerned.</c>

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It<00:18:13.880><c> was</c><00:18:14.119><c> not</c><00:18:14.339><c> new</c><00:18:14.519><c> as</c><00:18:14.779><c> far</c><00:18:14.960><c> as</c><00:18:15.099><c> established</c><00:18:15.579><c> churches</c><00:18:15.960><c> were</c><00:18:16.319><c> concerned.</c>

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His<00:18:18.319><c> teaching</c><00:18:18.640><c> was</c><00:18:18.880><c> sometimes</c><00:18:19.440><c> called</c><00:18:19.940><c> free</c><00:18:20.319><c> life,</c>

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since<00:18:21.259><c> it</c><00:18:21.400><c> was</c><00:18:21.640><c> argued</c><00:18:21.960><c> that</c><00:18:22.240><c> Christ</c><00:18:22.539><c> was</c><00:18:22.900><c> free</c>

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from<00:18:23.559><c> Adamic</c><00:18:24.140><c> condemnation</c><00:18:25.019><c> and</c><00:18:25.440><c> died</c><00:18:25.660><c> as</c><00:18:25.920><c> a</c><00:18:26.039><c> ransom</c><00:18:26.339><c> substitute.</c>

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Now<00:18:27.799><c> the</c><00:18:27.980><c> ransom</c><00:18:28.599><c> substitute</c><00:18:29.259><c> was</c><00:18:29.559><c> the</c><00:18:29.759><c> doctrine</c><00:18:29.980><c> of</c><00:18:30.180><c> the</c><00:18:30.319><c> churches.</c>

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Adamic<00:18:32.539><c> condemnation</c><00:18:33.119><c> was</c><00:18:33.319><c> the</c><00:18:33.500><c> language</c><00:18:33.740><c> of</c><00:18:33.940><c> the</c><00:18:34.039><c> Christendelfians</c>

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in<00:18:34.920><c> Romans</c><00:18:35.180><c> chapter</c><00:18:35.519><c> five.</c>

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Well,<00:18:38.759><c> this</c><00:18:39.000><c> brother</c><00:18:39.220><c> was</c><00:18:39.519><c> so</c><00:18:39.779><c> influential</c>

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and<00:18:40.839><c> so</c><00:18:41.119><c> accomplished</c><00:18:41.519><c> a</c><00:18:41.779><c> speaker</c>

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that<00:18:42.259><c> about</c><00:18:42.559><c> 200</c><00:18:43.119><c> Christendelfians</c><00:18:43.880><c> separated</c><00:18:44.319><c> with</c><00:18:44.599><c> him.</c>

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And<00:18:46.500><c> so</c><00:18:46.660><c> in</c><00:18:46.880><c> 1873</c><00:18:47.640><c> we</c><00:18:47.960><c> had</c><00:18:48.079><c> what</c><00:18:48.240><c> is</c><00:18:48.400><c> known</c><00:18:48.599><c> as</c>

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the<00:18:49.140><c> renunciationist</c><00:18:50.319><c> free</c><00:18:50.599><c> life</c><00:18:50.900><c> division.</c>

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And<00:18:53.019><c> there</c><00:18:53.519><c> still</c><00:18:53.700><c> remains</c><00:18:54.200><c> a</c><00:18:54.539><c> small</c><00:18:54.779><c> group</c>

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that<00:18:55.839><c> follows</c><00:18:56.220><c> Turney's</c><00:18:56.799><c> news</c><00:18:56.980><c> in</c><00:18:57.299><c> the</c><00:18:57.440><c> UK</c><00:18:57.740><c> today.</c>

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Now<00:18:58.519><c> apparently</c><00:18:59.039><c> a</c><00:18:59.920><c> large</c><00:19:00.220><c> number</c><00:19:00.519><c> of</c><00:19:00.640><c> that</c><00:19:00.839><c> 200</c>

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returned<00:19:01.880><c> to</c><00:19:02.160><c> the</c><00:19:02.680><c> central</c><00:19:03.039><c> fellowship</c><00:19:03.480><c> one</c><00:19:03.839><c> by</c><00:19:04.140><c> one</c>

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as<00:19:05.099><c> they</c><00:19:05.440><c> slowly</c><00:19:05.740><c> learned</c><00:19:06.160><c> the</c><00:19:06.420><c> error</c><00:19:06.579><c> of</c><00:19:06.799><c> their</c><00:19:06.839><c> way</c>

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with<00:19:07.140><c> the</c><00:19:07.339><c> passing</c><00:19:07.579><c> of</c><00:19:07.880><c> time.</c>

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So<00:19:09.119><c> it</c><00:19:09.140><c> was</c><00:19:09.420><c> at</c><00:19:09.619><c> that</c><00:19:10.559><c> period,</c><00:19:11.039><c> 1873,</c>

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that<00:19:12.380><c> the</c><00:19:12.599><c> doctrines</c><00:19:13.000><c> to</c><00:19:13.220><c> be</c><00:19:13.440><c> rejected</c><00:19:13.859><c> were</c><00:19:14.180><c> added</c>

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to<00:19:14.500><c> the</c><00:19:14.680><c> Birmingham</c><00:19:15.079><c> Statement</c><00:19:15.480><c> of</c><00:19:15.680><c> Faith.</c>

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I<00:19:16.660><c> referred</c><00:19:17.059><c> to</c><00:19:17.240><c> those</c><00:19:17.500><c> as</c><00:19:17.700><c> the</c><00:19:17.819><c> doctrines</c><00:19:18.160><c> to</c><00:19:18.339><c> be</c><00:19:18.500><c> rejected</c><00:19:18.819><c> earlier.</c>

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That<00:19:20.299><c> Christ</c><00:19:20.640><c> was</c><00:19:21.000><c> born</c><00:19:21.240><c> with</c><00:19:21.460><c> a</c><00:19:21.740><c> free</c><00:19:21.900><c> life,</c>

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that<00:19:22.900><c> there</c><00:19:23.119><c> is</c><00:19:23.400><c> no</c><00:19:23.700><c> sin</c><00:19:23.779><c> in</c><00:19:24.000><c> the</c><00:19:24.140><c> flesh,</c>

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and<00:19:24.980><c> that</c><00:19:25.200><c> Christ's</c><00:19:25.680><c> sager</c><00:19:25.799><c> was</c><00:19:26.140><c> an</c><00:19:26.400><c> athlete.</c>

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So<00:19:28.400><c> that's</c><00:19:28.980><c> clean</c><00:19:29.180><c> flesh.</c>

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We<00:19:30.119><c> hope</c><00:19:30.339><c> to</c><00:19:30.619><c> spend</c><00:19:30.920><c> considerable</c><00:19:31.599><c> time</c><00:19:32.019><c> on</c><00:19:32.160><c> that</c><00:19:32.319><c> tonight.</c>

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However,<00:19:34.900><c> in</c><00:19:35.160><c> 1894,</c><00:19:36.259><c> the</c><00:19:36.319><c> same</c><00:19:36.619><c> J</c><00:19:36.940><c>.J.</c><00:19:37.200><c> Andrews</c>

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who<00:19:37.859><c> earlier</c><00:19:38.299><c> had</c><00:19:38.579><c> published</c><00:19:38.920><c> The</c><00:19:39.160><c> Real</c><00:19:39.579><c> Christ,</c>

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a<00:19:42.559><c> publication</c><00:19:43.099><c> currently</c><00:19:43.740><c> circulated</c>

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about<00:19:44.599><c> the</c><00:19:44.779><c> Don</c><00:19:45.000><c> Fellowship</c><00:19:45.559><c> that</c><00:19:45.799><c> was</c>

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circularized<00:19:47.299><c> in</c><00:19:47.440><c> Australia</c><00:19:47.740><c> as</c><00:19:48.000><c> well</c>

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and<00:19:48.259><c> was</c><00:19:48.440><c> used</c><00:19:48.640><c> in</c><00:19:49.799><c> the</c><00:19:49.960><c> Orange</c><00:19:50.279><c> Hall,</c>

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Water<00:19:51.079><c> Avenue,</c><00:19:51.440><c> Ecclesia,</c>

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in<00:19:53.039><c> their</c><00:19:53.440><c> sunny</c><00:19:53.680><c> school</c><00:19:53.920><c> instruction.</c>

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I<00:19:55.319><c> happened</c><00:19:55.500><c> to</c><00:19:55.619><c> look</c><00:19:55.759><c> at</c><00:19:55.980><c> one</c><00:19:56.140><c> and</c><00:19:56.279><c> noted</c><00:19:56.420><c> that</c><00:19:56.619><c> I</c><00:19:56.799><c> received</c><00:19:57.119><c> it</c>

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in<00:19:58.039><c> my</c><00:19:58.240><c> sunny</c><00:19:58.480><c> school</c><00:19:58.740><c> days</c><00:19:59.099><c> at</c><00:19:59.779><c> Orange</c><00:20:00.039><c> Hall,</c>

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but<00:20:00.359><c> that</c><00:20:00.559><c> was</c><00:20:00.740><c> written</c><00:20:00.940><c> by</c><00:20:01.279><c> J</c><00:20:01.559><c>.J.</c><00:20:01.960><c> Andrews</c><00:20:02.359><c> of</c><00:20:02.720><c> London.</c>

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But<00:20:04.339><c> he</c><00:20:04.539><c> came</c><00:20:05.099><c> then</c><00:20:05.559><c> to</c><00:20:05.779><c> a</c><00:20:05.900><c> realization</c><00:20:06.460><c> of</c><00:20:06.680><c> a</c><00:20:06.859><c> different</c><00:20:07.099><c> view,</c>

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almost<00:20:08.720><c> completely</c><00:20:09.200><c> antagonistic</c><00:20:10.119><c> to</c><00:20:10.440><c> clean</c><00:20:10.680><c> flesh.</c>

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1894,<00:20:13.559><c> J</c><00:20:13.680><c>.J.</c><00:20:13.980><c> Andrews</c><00:20:14.180><c> of</c><00:20:14.380><c> London,</c><00:20:14.559><c> UK,</c>

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who<00:20:16.039><c> competently</c><00:20:16.599><c> defended</c><00:20:17.119><c> biblical</c><00:20:17.579><c> inspiration</c>

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in<00:20:18.319><c> the</c><00:20:18.539><c> 1885</c><00:20:19.200><c> Inspiration</c><00:20:19.839><c> Division,</c>

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now<00:20:21.000><c> realized</c><00:20:21.319><c> his</c><00:20:21.579><c> present</c><00:20:21.779><c> sisters,</c>

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J<00:20:22.920><c>.J.</c><00:20:23.160><c> Andrews</c><00:20:23.720><c> was,</c><00:20:23.940><c> so</c><00:20:24.119><c> to</c><00:20:24.299><c> speak,</c>

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Robert<00:20:25.240><c> Roberts'</c><00:20:25.839><c> right</c><00:20:25.980><c>-hand</c><00:20:26.180><c> man</c>

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in<00:20:27.339><c> the</c><00:20:27.599><c> defense</c><00:20:28.039><c> of</c><00:20:28.519><c> Bible</c><00:20:28.740><c> inspiration</c>

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in<00:20:30.019><c> the</c><00:20:30.200><c> 1885</c><00:20:31.519><c> Inspiration</c><00:20:32.299><c> Division.</c>

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But<00:20:34.160><c> he</c><00:20:34.319><c> stood</c><00:20:34.500><c> up</c><00:20:34.720><c> in</c><00:20:34.960><c> a</c><00:20:35.079><c> business</c><00:20:35.359><c> meeting</c>

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and<00:20:36.619><c> made</c><00:20:36.759><c> a</c><00:20:37.000><c> proposition.</c>

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He<00:20:38.619><c> suggested</c><00:20:39.079><c> that</c><00:20:39.279><c> this</c><00:20:39.480><c> would</c><00:20:39.660><c> be</c><00:20:39.819><c> a</c><00:20:39.940><c> desirable</c><00:20:40.420><c> addition</c>

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to<00:20:40.960><c> the</c><00:20:41.119><c> statement</c><00:20:41.319><c> of</c><00:20:41.619><c> faith,</c>

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that<00:20:42.859><c> Christ,</c><00:20:43.640><c> having</c><00:20:43.720><c> been</c><00:20:44.140><c> raised</c><00:20:44.559><c> from</c><00:20:44.839><c> the</c><00:20:45.000><c> dead</c>

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through<00:20:45.460><c> his</c><00:20:45.720><c> own</c><00:20:46.000><c> blood,</c>

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it<00:20:47.640><c> necessarily</c><00:20:48.279><c> follows</c><00:20:48.940><c> that</c><00:20:49.400><c> the</c><00:20:49.619><c> dead</c><00:20:49.819><c> in</c><00:20:50.000><c> Christ</c>

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will<00:20:50.400><c> be</c><00:20:50.579><c> raised</c><00:20:50.819><c> through</c><00:20:51.039><c> the</c><00:20:51.140><c> same</c><00:20:51.400><c> blood,</c>

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and<00:20:52.859><c> as</c><00:20:53.180><c> a</c><00:20:53.299><c> consequence,</c><00:20:54.359><c> that</c><00:20:54.539><c> the</c><00:20:54.720><c> blood</c><00:20:54.880><c> of</c><00:20:55.000><c> Christ</c>

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is<00:20:55.680><c> not</c><00:20:55.940><c> available</c><00:20:56.279><c> for</c><00:20:56.500><c> the</c><00:20:56.700><c> resurrection</c>

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of<00:20:57.619><c> any</c><00:20:57.859><c> who</c><00:20:58.079><c> have</c><00:20:58.319><c> died</c><00:20:58.700><c> in</c><00:20:59.059><c> Adam.</c>

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Now,<00:21:00.500><c> he</c><00:21:00.700><c> used</c><00:21:00.940><c> terms</c><00:21:01.559><c> that</c><00:21:01.980><c> are</c><00:21:02.160><c> set</c><00:21:02.319><c> out</c><00:21:02.460><c> in</c><00:21:02.599><c> 1894</c>

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in<00:21:03.960><c> his</c><00:21:04.200><c> publication</c><00:21:04.759><c> of</c><00:21:05.000><c> Blood</c><00:21:05.079><c> of</c><00:21:05.220><c> the</c><00:21:05.380><c> Covenant.</c>

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Those<00:21:07.220><c> terms</c><00:21:07.579><c> are</c><00:21:08.140><c> inherited</c><00:21:08.799><c> alienation,</c>

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Adam's<00:21:11.160><c> sin,</c><00:21:11.839><c> racial</c><00:21:12.299><c> alienation,</c>

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Adamic<00:21:14.019><c> condemnation.</c>

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In<00:21:16.279><c> 1894,</c><00:21:17.380><c> there</c><00:21:17.859><c> was</c><00:21:18.240><c> a</c><00:21:18.700><c> very</c><00:21:19.240><c> important</c><00:21:19.799><c> debate</c>

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between<00:21:20.579><c> Roberts</c><00:21:21.180><c> and</c><00:21:21.579><c> Andrews</c>

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on<00:21:22.920><c> the</c><00:21:23.259><c> issue</c><00:21:23.559><c> of</c><00:21:23.960><c> resurrection</c><00:21:24.440><c> responsibility.</c>

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In<00:21:26.680><c> 1894,</c><00:21:29.119><c> J</c><00:21:29.460><c>.J.</c><00:21:30.420><c> Andrews</c><00:21:31.259><c> made</c><00:21:31.559><c> this</c><00:21:31.920><c> attestive</c><00:21:32.359><c> fellowship,</c>

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and<00:21:33.500><c> with</c><00:21:33.700><c> only</c><00:21:33.960><c> fellowship,</c><00:21:34.559><c> those</c><00:21:34.740><c> who</c><00:21:35.019><c> believed</c><00:21:35.200><c> as</c><00:21:35.460><c> he</c><00:21:35.759><c> did,</c>

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about<00:21:36.779><c> the</c><00:21:37.079><c> resurrection</c><00:21:37.539><c> question,</c><00:21:38.380><c> sacrifice</c><00:21:38.740><c> of</c><00:21:39.039><c> Christ.</c>

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Now,<00:21:41.099><c> why</c><00:21:41.359><c> this</c><00:21:41.640><c> debate</c><00:21:42.059><c> is</c><00:21:42.480><c> of</c><00:21:43.000><c> such</c><00:21:43.319><c> great</c><00:21:43.619><c> interest</c>

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is<00:21:45.140><c> that</c><00:21:45.279><c> currently</c><00:21:45.720><c> in</c><00:21:46.000><c> Australia,</c>

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the<00:21:47.660><c> Roberts</c><00:21:48.119><c>-Andrews</c><00:21:48.859><c> debate</c><00:21:49.299><c> is</c><00:21:49.740><c> frequently</c><00:21:50.279><c> quoted</c>

00:21:50.660 --> 00:21:55.380
by<00:21:51.039><c> those</c><00:21:51.519><c> who</c><00:21:51.940><c> seem</c><00:21:52.180><c> to</c><00:21:52.400><c> sympathize</c><00:21:53.160><c> with</c><00:21:53.519><c> clean</c><00:21:53.839><c> flesh</c><00:21:54.279><c> heresy.</c>

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Now,<00:21:56.160><c> do</c><00:21:56.319><c> you</c><00:21:56.420><c> realize</c><00:21:56.819><c> that</c><00:21:57.279><c> Andrewism</c><00:21:57.880><c> is</c><00:21:58.660><c> inherited</c><00:21:59.119><c> alienation?</c>

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You<00:22:00.980><c> can</c><00:22:01.240><c> see</c><00:22:01.440><c> how</c><00:22:01.779><c> in</c><00:22:01.880><c> a</c><00:22:02.059><c> debate,</c>

00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:04.799
Robert<00:22:03.339><c> Roberts</c><00:22:03.700><c> is</c><00:22:03.960><c> going</c><00:22:04.079><c> to</c><00:22:04.220><c> be</c><00:22:04.440><c> swinging</c>

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toward<00:22:05.279><c> the</c><00:22:06.019><c> extreme</c><00:22:06.579><c> of</c><00:22:06.839><c> that</c><00:22:07.059><c> position</c>

00:22:07.519 --> 00:22:09.960
to<00:22:07.880><c> show</c><00:22:08.000><c> the</c><00:22:08.460><c> error</c><00:22:08.579><c> of</c><00:22:08.880><c> Andrewism.</c>

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And<00:22:10.880><c> what</c><00:22:11.000><c> has</c><00:22:11.259><c> happened</c><00:22:11.500><c> ever</c><00:22:11.880><c> since</c><00:22:12.200><c> is</c><00:22:12.539><c> that</c><00:22:12.920><c> errorists</c>

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in<00:22:13.539><c> each</c><00:22:13.740><c> clean</c><00:22:14.039><c> flesh</c><00:22:14.420><c> have</c><00:22:15.160><c> quoted</c><00:22:15.500><c> Robert</c><00:22:15.980><c> Roberts</c>

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and<00:22:16.579><c> the</c><00:22:16.740><c> Roberts</c><00:22:17.039><c>-Andrew</c><00:22:17.519><c> debate</c><00:22:18.039><c> in</c><00:22:18.299><c> that</c><00:22:18.599><c> time</c><00:22:18.839><c> period</c>

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as<00:22:20.400><c> endorsing</c><00:22:21.059><c> some</c><00:22:21.259><c> of</c><00:22:21.400><c> the</c><00:22:21.599><c> views</c><00:22:21.779><c> set</c><00:22:22.059><c> out</c><00:22:22.740><c> for</c><00:22:23.160><c> clean</c><00:22:23.460><c> flesh.</c>

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And<00:22:25.180><c> of</c><00:22:25.359><c> course,</c><00:22:25.700><c> rather</c><00:22:25.880><c> than</c><00:22:26.119><c> taking</c><00:22:26.220><c> a</c><00:22:26.539><c> hold</c><00:22:26.680><c> of</c><00:22:26.900><c> the</c><00:22:27.140><c> works</c>

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of<00:22:27.720><c> Robert</c><00:22:28.099><c> Roberts</c><00:22:28.559><c> on</c><00:22:29.259><c> the</c><00:22:29.420><c> issue</c><00:22:29.619><c> of</c><00:22:29.779><c> the</c><00:22:29.859><c> Atonement,</c>

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they<00:22:30.400><c> have</c><00:22:30.700><c> combined</c><00:22:31.039><c> their</c><00:22:31.359><c> citations</c>

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to<00:22:32.859><c> a</c><00:22:33.019><c> period</c><00:22:33.299><c> of</c><00:22:33.700><c> controversy</c><00:22:34.359><c> when</c><00:22:34.819><c> he</c><00:22:35.000><c> is</c><00:22:35.259><c> opposing</c><00:22:35.819><c> J</c><00:22:36.200><c>.J.</c><00:22:36.640><c> Andrews,</c>

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and<00:22:37.579><c> some</c><00:22:37.759><c> of</c><00:22:37.900><c> his</c><00:22:38.039><c> statements</c><00:22:38.359><c> were</c><00:22:38.640><c> unwise</c><00:22:39.140><c> and</c><00:22:39.440><c> extreme</c><00:22:39.819><c> at</c>

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that<00:22:40.279><c> time,</c>

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and<00:22:41.140><c> they</c><00:22:41.279><c> have</c><00:22:41.420><c> been</c><00:22:41.559><c> very</c><00:22:41.900><c> useful</c><00:22:42.220><c> ammunition</c>

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for<00:22:43.039><c> people</c><00:22:43.380><c> who</c><00:22:43.740><c> have</c><00:22:44.380><c> clean</c><00:22:44.759><c> flesh</c><00:22:44.960><c> sympathies.</c>

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So<00:22:46.700><c> it's</c><00:22:46.920><c> important</c><00:22:47.279><c> to</c><00:22:47.480><c> see</c><00:22:47.539><c> that</c><00:22:47.740><c> that</c><00:22:47.920><c> debate</c><00:22:48.259><c> has</c><00:22:48.519><c> been</c><00:22:48.920><c> quoted</c>

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ever<00:22:49.799><c> since</c><00:22:50.579><c> by</c><00:22:51.059><c> people</c><00:22:51.480><c> who</c><00:22:52.220><c> tend</c><00:22:52.440><c> to</c><00:22:52.819><c> support</c><00:22:53.140><c> the</c><00:22:53.400><c> clean</c>

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flesh<00:22:53.960><c> view,</c>

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because<00:22:55.099><c> J</c><00:22:55.440><c>.J.</c><00:22:55.640><c> Andrews</c><00:22:56.160><c> and</c><00:22:56.339><c> Roberts</c><00:22:56.700><c> in</c><00:22:57.000><c> that</c><00:22:57.200><c> debate,</c>

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Robert<00:22:58.400><c> Roberts</c><00:22:58.759><c> made</c><00:22:59.059><c> statements</c><00:22:59.599><c> which,</c><00:22:59.920><c> when</c><00:23:00.099><c> he</c><00:23:00.359><c> came</c><00:23:00.519><c> to</c><00:23:00.779><c> write,</c>

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without<00:23:01.440><c> the</c><00:23:01.819><c> aura</c><00:23:02.079><c> of</c><00:23:02.440><c> controversy,</c>

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broke<00:23:03.940><c> in</c><00:23:04.619><c> a</c><00:23:04.740><c> more</c><00:23:05.099><c> moderate</c><00:23:05.579><c> and</c><00:23:06.299><c> difficult</c><00:23:06.660><c> fashion.</c>

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But<00:23:07.940><c> the</c><00:23:08.079><c> division</c><00:23:08.339><c> ensued</c><00:23:08.700><c> in</c><00:23:09.000><c> 1894.</c>

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Now<00:23:10.799><c> next</c><00:23:11.039><c> week</c><00:23:11.180><c> we</c><00:23:11.380><c> hope</c><00:23:11.539><c> to</c><00:23:11.799><c> show</c><00:23:11.900><c> the</c><00:23:12.220><c> role</c><00:23:12.859><c> that</c><00:23:13.200><c> Thomas</c>

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Williams<00:23:14.059><c> had</c>

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in<00:23:15.079><c> what</c><00:23:15.319><c> followed.</c>

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Now<00:23:17.000><c> we</c><00:23:17.160><c> should</c><00:23:17.400><c> not</c><00:23:17.680><c> immediately</c><00:23:18.559><c> equate</c><00:23:19.940><c> Robert</c><00:23:20.500><c> Roberts,</c>

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or<00:23:21.359><c> rather</c><00:23:21.700><c> J</c><00:23:22.019><c>.J.</c><00:23:22.460><c> Andrews,</c><00:23:23.319><c> and</c><00:23:23.559><c> the</c><00:23:23.759><c> work</c><00:23:24.019><c> of</c><00:23:24.380><c> Thomas</c><00:23:24.900><c> Williams,</c>

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who<00:23:25.559><c> was</c><00:23:25.859><c> the</c><00:23:26.140><c> editor</c><00:23:26.559><c> of</c><00:23:27.400><c> the</c><00:23:27.680><c> very</c><00:23:28.259><c> influential</c><00:23:29.299><c> Advocate</c><00:23:30.240><c> Magazine</c>

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in<00:23:31.079><c> America.</c>

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I'd<00:23:33.019><c> like</c><00:23:33.119><c> to</c><00:23:33.299><c> quote</c><00:23:33.460><c> you</c><00:23:33.700><c> from</c><00:23:33.880><c> the</c><00:23:34.279><c> Advocate.</c>

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There<00:23:35.440><c> are</c><00:23:35.700><c> certainly</c><00:23:36.019><c> great</c><00:23:36.460><c> similarities.</c>

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In<00:23:38.099><c> the</c><00:23:38.299><c> Advocate</c><00:23:38.660><c> of</c><00:23:38.839><c> 1893,</c><00:23:39.680><c> by</c><00:23:39.900><c> the</c><00:23:39.980><c> way,</c>

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the<00:23:40.420><c> Advocate</c><00:23:40.859><c> came</c><00:23:41.119><c> out</c><00:23:41.339><c> in</c><00:23:41.700><c> support</c><00:23:42.299><c> of</c><00:23:42.940><c> J</c><00:23:43.079><c>.J.</c><00:23:43.400><c> Andrews.</c>

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So<00:23:43.799><c> in</c><00:23:43.940><c> America</c><00:23:44.299><c> now</c><00:23:44.740><c> we</c><00:23:45.180><c> have</c><00:23:45.460><c> support</c><00:23:45.940><c> for</c><00:23:46.240><c> J</c><00:23:46.539><c>.J.</c><00:23:47.039><c> Andrews.</c>

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In<00:23:48.160><c> the</c><00:23:48.339><c> 1920s</c><00:23:49.079><c> we</c><00:23:49.240><c> had</c><00:23:49.420><c> the</c><00:23:49.680><c> support</c><00:23:49.880><c> of</c><00:23:50.160><c> Strickler</c>

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for<00:23:51.079><c> men</c><00:23:51.279><c> like</c><00:23:51.640><c> Turney</c><00:23:52.019><c> and</c><00:23:52.680><c> Hanley.</c>

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So<00:23:53.839><c> it</c><00:23:54.019><c> seems</c><00:23:54.180><c> that</c><00:23:54.480><c> in</c><00:23:54.640><c> America</c><00:23:55.059><c> here</c><00:23:55.299><c> we've</c><00:23:55.720><c> inherited</c><00:23:56.279><c> the</c><00:23:56.900><c> problems</c>

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that<00:23:57.539><c> originated</c><00:23:57.900><c> in</c><00:23:58.220><c> Great</c><00:23:58.440><c> Britain</c><00:23:58.740><c> in</c><00:23:58.980><c> these</c><00:23:59.180><c> two</c><00:23:59.339><c> matters.</c>

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The<00:24:01.819><c> Advocate</c><00:24:02.779><c> penned</c><00:24:03.359><c> in</c><00:24:03.559><c> 1893</c><00:24:04.359><c> these</c><00:24:04.680><c> words.</c>

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An<00:24:05.740><c> adult</c><00:24:06.099><c> devoid</c><00:24:06.680><c> of</c><00:24:06.900><c> personal</c><00:24:07.319><c> transgression</c>

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would<00:24:08.700><c> upon</c><00:24:08.980><c> baptism</c><00:24:09.539><c> be</c><00:24:09.880><c> forgiven,</c><00:24:11.039><c> a</c><00:24:11.220><c> dad</c><00:24:11.220><c> of</c><00:24:11.380><c> sin.</c>

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Interesting.

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It's<00:24:13.920><c> the</c><00:24:14.039><c> very</c><00:24:14.319><c> same</c><00:24:14.500><c> thing</c><00:24:14.660><c> that</c><00:24:14.859><c> I</c><00:24:15.019><c> heard</c><00:24:15.640><c> not</c><00:24:16.559><c> so</c><00:24:16.700><c> many</c>

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years<00:24:17.140><c> ago.</c>

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The<00:24:18.519><c> Advocate</c><00:24:19.039><c> heard</c><00:24:19.299><c> 1900,</c><00:24:21.079><c> whatever</c><00:24:21.420><c> Christ</c><00:24:21.859><c> died</c><00:24:22.279><c> himself</c><00:24:22.799><c> for,</c>

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we<00:24:24.420><c> are</c><00:24:24.720><c> baptized</c><00:24:25.400><c> for</c><00:24:25.700><c> ourselves</c><00:24:26.160><c> for.</c>

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Since<00:24:27.619><c> Christ</c><00:24:27.960><c> did</c><00:24:28.240><c> not</c><00:24:28.579><c> die</c><00:24:28.900><c> for</c><00:24:29.160><c> himself</c><00:24:29.599><c> for</c><00:24:30.000><c> personal</c><00:24:30.339><c> sin,</c>

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therefore<00:24:31.819><c> he</c><00:24:32.160><c> died</c><00:24:32.460><c> for</c><00:24:32.759><c> inherited</c><00:24:33.180><c> sin.</c>

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See<00:24:34.859><c> the</c><00:24:35.019><c> point</c><00:24:35.180><c> to</c><00:24:35.359><c> me?</c>

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Christ<00:24:37.000><c> died,</c><00:24:38.099><c> but</c><00:24:38.200><c> he</c><00:24:38.380><c> didn't</c><00:24:38.619><c> die</c><00:24:38.839><c> for</c><00:24:39.099><c> personal</c><00:24:39.460><c> sin</c>

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because<00:24:40.019><c> he</c><00:24:40.259><c> had</c><00:24:40.420><c> no</c><00:24:40.640><c> personal</c><00:24:41.000><c> sins.</c>

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So<00:24:42.640><c> whatever</c><00:24:42.839><c> he</c><00:24:43.059><c> died</c><00:24:43.279><c> for,</c><00:24:43.720><c> we're</c><00:24:43.779><c> baptized</c><00:24:44.319><c> for.</c>

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And<00:24:45.799><c> since</c><00:24:46.000><c> he</c><00:24:46.339><c> died</c><00:24:46.680><c> without</c><00:24:47.059><c> personal</c><00:24:47.480><c> sins,</c>

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then<00:24:47.960><c> we</c><00:24:48.059><c> can't</c><00:24:48.339><c> be</c><00:24:48.539><c> baptized</c><00:24:48.960><c> for</c><00:24:49.279><c> forgiveness</c><00:24:49.500><c> of</c><00:24:49.720><c> personal</c><00:24:50.140><c> sins</c>

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rather<00:24:51.220><c> for</c><00:24:51.740><c> epidemic</c><00:24:52.160><c> sin</c><00:24:52.440><c> or</c><00:24:52.740><c> inherited</c><00:24:53.140><c> sin.</c>

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In<00:24:56.420><c> the</c><00:24:56.579><c> New</c><00:24:56.759><c> Day,</c><00:24:57.339><c> J</c><00:24:57.660><c>.J.</c><00:24:58.019><c> Andrews</c><00:24:58.539><c> had</c><00:24:58.720><c> this</c><00:24:58.920><c> to</c><00:24:59.099><c> say,</c>

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when<00:24:59.480><c> Christ</c><00:24:59.880><c> died,</c><00:25:00.420><c> his</c><00:25:00.579><c> blood</c><00:25:00.779><c> ratified</c><00:25:01.339><c> the</c><00:25:01.619><c> sacrifices</c>

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which<00:25:02.660><c> they,</c><00:25:03.819><c> the</c><00:25:04.099><c> unjust</c><00:25:04.480><c> at</c><00:25:04.680><c> the</c><00:25:04.920><c> resurrection,</c><00:25:05.500><c> had</c><00:25:05.740><c> offered</c><00:25:05.920><c> up</c>

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and<00:25:06.779><c> therefore</c><00:25:07.279><c> justified</c><00:25:07.920><c> them</c><00:25:08.319><c> from</c><00:25:09.019><c> epidemic</c><00:25:09.819><c> condemnation.</c>

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Now,<00:25:12.119><c> later</c><00:25:12.339><c> on,</c><00:25:14.420><c> there</c><00:25:14.460><c> was</c><00:25:14.720><c> a</c><00:25:14.960><c> split</c><00:25:15.119><c> between</c><00:25:15.579><c> Thomas</c><00:25:15.980><c> Williams</c><00:25:16.500><c> and</c><00:25:17.160><c> J</c>

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.J.<00:25:17.640><c> Andrews</c>

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because<00:25:18.460><c> Thomas</c><00:25:18.759><c> Williams</c><00:25:18.980><c> would</c><00:25:19.259><c> not</c><00:25:19.440><c> go</c><00:25:19.700><c> as</c><00:25:19.940><c> far</c><00:25:20.299><c> as</c><00:25:20.720><c> J</c><00:25:21.039><c>.J.</c>

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Andrews<00:25:21.640><c> did</c>

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in<00:25:22.700><c> saying</c><00:25:22.880><c> that</c><00:25:23.140><c> God</c><00:25:23.380><c> could</c><00:25:23.819><c> not</c><00:25:24.180><c> raise</c><00:25:24.559><c> the</c><00:25:24.859><c> white</c><00:25:25.039><c> rejector.</c>

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Now,<00:25:27.359><c> we</c><00:25:27.519><c> in</c><00:25:27.660><c> retrospect</c><00:25:28.099><c> may</c><00:25:28.519><c> tend</c><00:25:28.660><c> to</c><00:25:29.039><c> think</c><00:25:29.420><c> that</c><00:25:29.740><c> J</c><00:25:29.940><c>.J.</c><00:25:30.160><c> Andrews</c><00:25:30.319><c> was</c>

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a<00:25:30.759><c> very</c><00:25:31.000><c> foolish</c><00:25:31.259><c> man</c>

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teaching<00:25:32.740><c> such</c><00:25:33.299><c> obvious</c><00:25:33.740><c> errors.</c>

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But<00:25:35.119><c> in</c><00:25:35.319><c> reading</c><00:25:35.519><c> his</c><00:25:35.859><c> works,</c><00:25:36.140><c> this</c><00:25:36.400><c> is</c><00:25:36.660><c> not</c><00:25:36.880><c> the</c><00:25:37.079><c> impression</c>

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one<00:25:37.539><c> gets</c><00:25:37.799><c> at</c><00:25:38.039><c> all.</c>

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He<00:25:38.359><c> was</c><00:25:38.640><c> a</c><00:25:38.779><c> very</c><00:25:39.220><c> confident</c><00:25:39.759><c> and</c><00:25:40.059><c> a</c><00:25:40.160><c> very</c><00:25:40.420><c> logical</c><00:25:40.980><c> thinker.</c>

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And<00:25:42.119><c> given</c><00:25:42.480><c> his</c><00:25:42.859><c> premises,</c><00:25:44.059><c> his</c><00:25:44.279><c> conclusions</c><00:25:45.039><c> inescapably</c><00:25:46.119><c> fall.</c>

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Now,<00:25:48.200><c> I</c><00:25:48.299><c> suppose</c><00:25:48.599><c> by</c><00:25:48.839><c> now</c><00:25:49.019><c> you're</c><00:25:49.240><c> wondering</c><00:25:49.680><c> just</c><00:25:50.220><c> what</c><00:25:50.579><c> the</c>

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main<00:25:50.880><c> question</c><00:25:51.220><c> is</c>

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and<00:25:51.680><c> what</c><00:25:51.940><c> inherited</c><00:25:52.500><c> alienation</c><00:25:53.180><c> is</c>

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and<00:25:53.460><c> why</c><00:25:53.680><c> we're</c><00:25:54.160><c> spending</c><00:25:54.160><c> so</c><00:25:54.440><c> much</c><00:25:54.720><c> time</c><00:25:54.859><c> on</c><00:25:55.099><c> these</c><00:25:55.339><c> two</c><00:25:55.700><c> concepts.</c>

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Well,<00:25:57.519><c> if</c><00:25:57.660><c> you</c><00:25:57.859><c> turn</c><00:25:58.079><c> to</c><00:25:58.779><c> your</c><00:25:59.279><c> first</c><00:25:59.640><c> page,</c>

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we<00:26:01.700><c> have</c><00:26:02.000><c> set</c><00:26:02.180><c> out</c><00:26:02.339><c> here</c><00:26:02.500><c> for</c><00:26:02.759><c> you</c><00:26:03.160><c> in</c><00:26:03.359><c> a</c><00:26:03.519><c> graphic</c><00:26:03.859><c> way</c>

00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:08.299
what<00:26:06.539><c> is</c><00:26:06.839><c> said</c><00:26:06.940><c> to</c><00:26:07.140><c> have</c><00:26:07.380><c> happened</c><00:26:07.599><c> in</c><00:26:07.859><c> the</c><00:26:08.019><c> fall.</c>

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And<00:26:09.400><c> we</c><00:26:09.680><c> propose</c><00:26:10.039><c> to</c><00:26:10.180><c> look</c><00:26:10.259><c> very</c><00:26:10.640><c> carefully</c><00:26:10.940><c> tonight</c><00:26:11.220><c> at</c><00:26:11.440><c> Genesis</c><00:26:11.759><c> chapter</c><00:26:12.160><c> 3.</c>

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It's<00:26:13.660><c> here</c><00:26:13.839><c> where</c><00:26:14.079><c> all</c><00:26:14.420><c> the</c><00:26:14.559><c> errors</c><00:26:14.740><c> begin.</c>

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Andrewism,<00:26:18.740><c> inherited</c><00:26:19.259><c> alienation,</c>

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taught<00:26:22.039><c> that</c><00:26:22.359><c> out</c><00:26:22.559><c> of</c><00:26:22.680><c> a</c><00:26:22.819><c> very</c><00:26:23.240><c> good,</c><00:26:23.779><c> inherited</c><00:26:24.259><c> two</c><00:26:24.680><c> things</c>

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as<00:26:25.420><c> a</c><00:26:25.619><c> result.</c>

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He<00:26:26.460><c> passed</c><00:26:26.779><c> on</c><00:26:26.980><c> to</c><00:26:27.119><c> his</c><00:26:27.259><c> descendants</c><00:26:27.700><c> two</c><00:26:28.039><c> things</c><00:26:28.359><c> as</c><00:26:28.579><c> a</c><00:26:28.700><c> result</c><00:26:28.900><c> of</c>

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the<00:26:29.220><c> fall.</c>

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He<00:26:31.140><c> passed</c><00:26:31.380><c> on</c><00:26:31.819><c> a</c><00:26:32.140><c> physical</c><00:26:32.579><c> effect,</c><00:26:33.180><c> which</c><00:26:33.240><c> is</c><00:26:33.460><c> mortality.</c>

00:26:34.940 --> 00:26:37.980
A<00:26:35.299><c> sinful</c><00:26:35.579><c> nature</c><00:26:36.380><c> and</c><00:26:37.079><c> a</c><00:26:37.180><c> defiled</c><00:26:37.539><c> conscience.</c>

00:26:38.059 --> 00:26:40.039
Well,<00:26:38.279><c> I</c><00:26:38.339><c> don't</c><00:26:38.599><c> think</c><00:26:38.720><c> we</c><00:26:38.900><c> have</c><00:26:39.140><c> any</c><00:26:39.380><c> core</c><00:26:39.519><c> of</c><00:26:39.759><c> that.</c>

00:26:40.160 --> 00:26:42.279
That's<00:26:40.500><c> just</c><00:26:40.819><c> what</c><00:26:41.019><c> the</c><00:26:41.240><c> Statement</c><00:26:41.460><c> of</c><00:26:41.640><c> Faith</c><00:26:41.799><c> says</c>

00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:45.640
and<00:26:42.880><c> what</c><00:26:43.160><c> central</c><00:26:43.519><c> fellowship</c><00:26:43.960><c> psychedelics</c><00:26:44.680><c> believe.</c>

00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:51.920
But<00:26:46.859><c> he</c><00:26:47.079><c> noted</c><00:26:47.460><c> that</c><00:26:48.460><c> Adam</c><00:26:48.859><c> also</c><00:26:49.500><c> passed</c><00:26:49.900><c> on</c><00:26:50.039><c> as</c><00:26:50.220><c> a</c><00:26:50.380><c> legacy</c><00:26:51.039><c> a</c>

00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:54.099
legal<00:26:52.519><c> condemnation,</c>

00:26:54.920 --> 00:26:58.839
which<00:26:55.079><c> he</c><00:26:55.480><c> called</c><00:26:55.900><c> advanced</c><00:26:56.539><c> condemnation,</c><00:26:58.279><c> Adam's</c><00:26:58.740><c> sin,</c>

00:26:59.299 --> 00:27:01.740
inherited<00:26:59.759><c> sin,</c><00:27:00.559><c> racial</c><00:27:00.980><c> alienation.</c>

00:27:01.740 --> 00:27:06.799
Now,<00:27:02.980><c> this</c><00:27:03.240><c> doctrine</c><00:27:03.619><c> taught</c><00:27:04.019><c> that</c><00:27:04.259><c> by</c><00:27:04.539><c> virtue</c><00:27:04.940><c> of</c><00:27:05.220><c> having</c><00:27:05.980><c> a</c>

00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:08.400
sinful<00:27:07.220><c> nature,</c>

00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:12.539
one<00:27:08.720><c> was</c><00:27:09.440><c> racially</c><00:27:10.519><c> alienated</c><00:27:11.279><c> from</c><00:27:11.519><c> God.</c>

00:27:13.299 --> 00:27:16.339
Now,<00:27:13.720><c> alienation</c><00:27:14.380><c> is</c><00:27:14.740><c> a</c><00:27:14.960><c> moral</c><00:27:15.339><c> term.</c>

00:27:16.660 --> 00:27:22.160
It<00:27:16.940><c> means</c><00:27:17.279><c> that</c><00:27:17.579><c> God</c><00:27:18.079><c> holds</c><00:27:19.599><c> us</c><00:27:19.819><c> with</c><00:27:20.240><c> great</c><00:27:20.500><c> despise</c><00:27:21.279><c> and</c><00:27:21.539><c> repugnance</c>

00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:27.380
because<00:27:22.619><c> we</c><00:27:23.079><c> wear</c><00:27:24.259><c> Adam's</c><00:27:25.059><c> nature,</c><00:27:25.920><c> our</c><00:27:26.180><c> fallen</c><00:27:26.380><c> nature.</c>

00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:32.319
Now,<00:27:28.759><c> the</c><00:27:28.980><c> Adamic</c><00:27:29.539><c> condemnation,</c><00:27:30.700><c> Adam's</c><00:27:31.119><c> sin,</c><00:27:31.759><c> inherited</c>

00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:34.160
sin,<00:27:32.599><c> and</c><00:27:32.759><c> racial</c><00:27:33.039><c> alienation</c>

00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:37.299
seem<00:27:34.779><c> to</c><00:27:34.980><c> me</c><00:27:35.140><c> to</c><00:27:35.220><c> be</c><00:27:35.400><c> equivalent</c><00:27:35.660><c> to</c><00:27:35.960><c> eternal</c><00:27:36.339><c> death.</c>

00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:40.140
So<00:27:37.819><c> there's</c><00:27:38.019><c> two</c><00:27:38.299><c> things</c><00:27:38.619><c> that</c><00:27:38.779><c> a</c><00:27:38.900><c> man</c><00:27:39.019><c> has</c><00:27:39.279><c> to</c><00:27:39.440><c> be</c><00:27:39.619><c> delivered</c><00:27:39.880><c> from.</c>

00:27:40.299 --> 00:27:43.779
There<00:27:40.400><c> is</c><00:27:40.640><c> mortality,</c><00:27:41.680><c> but</c><00:27:41.859><c> that's</c><00:27:42.220><c> not</c><00:27:42.359><c> the</c><00:27:42.559><c> legal</c><00:27:42.779><c> sentence.</c>

00:27:43.859 --> 00:27:47.339
The<00:27:44.140><c> legal</c><00:27:44.480><c> sentence</c><00:27:44.980><c> is</c><00:27:45.660><c> eternal</c><00:27:46.400><c> death.</c>

00:27:48.099 --> 00:27:50.680
So<00:27:48.279><c> we're</c><00:27:48.519><c> really</c><00:27:48.720><c> under</c><00:27:49.119><c> two</c><00:27:49.559><c> disabilities.</c>

00:27:50.980 --> 00:27:53.880
A<00:27:51.200><c> sinful</c><00:27:51.460><c> nature,</c><00:27:52.140><c> defiled</c><00:27:52.500><c> conscience,</c><00:27:53.180><c> and</c><00:27:53.380><c> mortality,</c>

00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:57.099
which<00:27:54.099><c> means</c><00:27:54.680><c> living</c><00:27:55.059><c> out</c><00:27:55.299><c> your</c><00:27:55.480><c> normal</c><00:27:55.740><c> life</c><00:27:56.039><c> and</c><00:27:56.220><c> dying.</c>

00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:01.740
But<00:27:58.059><c> we</c><00:27:58.299><c> also</c><00:27:58.640><c> die</c><00:27:58.960><c> under</c><00:27:59.339><c> a</c><00:27:59.640><c> legal</c><00:27:59.980><c> condemnation,</c><00:28:00.779><c> which</c><00:28:00.900><c> is</c><00:28:01.180><c> eternal</c>

00:28:01.740 --> 00:28:05.099
and<00:28:02.839><c> which</c><00:28:03.359><c> consigns</c><00:28:03.759><c> us</c><00:28:04.140><c> eternally</c><00:28:04.579><c> to</c><00:28:04.740><c> the</c><00:28:04.900><c> grave.</c>

00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:09.099
And<00:28:05.279><c> the</c><00:28:05.460><c> only</c><00:28:05.680><c> way</c><00:28:06.420><c> that</c><00:28:06.759><c> this</c><00:28:07.059><c> legal</c><00:28:07.440><c> condemnation</c><00:28:08.119><c> can</c><00:28:08.299><c> be</c><00:28:08.579><c> removed</c>

00:28:09.099 --> 00:28:11.380
was<00:28:09.720><c> for</c><00:28:10.039><c> a</c><00:28:10.160><c> Jew</c><00:28:10.299><c> through</c><00:28:10.539><c> circumcision</c>

00:28:11.380 --> 00:28:14.279
because<00:28:11.980><c> typically</c><00:28:12.480><c> this</c><00:28:12.759><c> cutting</c><00:28:12.960><c> off</c><00:28:13.240><c> of</c><00:28:13.380><c> the</c><00:28:13.539><c> flesh</c>

00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:17.019
pointed<00:28:14.819><c> forward</c><00:28:15.299><c> to</c><00:28:15.519><c> the</c><00:28:15.740><c> sacrifice</c><00:28:16.140><c> that</c><00:28:16.359><c> Christ</c><00:28:16.640><c> would</c><00:28:16.900><c> make</c>

00:28:17.019 --> 00:28:20.839
and<00:28:17.299><c> typically</c><00:28:18.119><c> then</c><00:28:18.519><c> the</c><00:28:18.759><c> Jew</c><00:28:19.160><c> was</c><00:28:19.859><c> removed</c><00:28:20.380><c> from</c><00:28:20.579><c> this</c>

00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:22.019
legal<00:28:21.140><c> condemnation</c>

00:28:22.019 --> 00:28:25.559
and<00:28:22.460><c> only</c><00:28:22.799><c> suffered</c><00:28:23.119><c> the</c><00:28:23.339><c> physical</c><00:28:23.740><c> effects,</c><00:28:24.579><c> mortality,</c>

00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:27.519
sinful<00:28:25.880><c> nature,</c><00:28:26.680><c> defiled</c><00:28:27.099><c> conscience.</c>

00:28:27.859 --> 00:28:30.700
That's<00:28:28.240><c> why</c><00:28:28.400><c> you</c><00:28:28.480><c> see</c><00:28:28.579><c> I've</c><00:28:28.779><c> got</c><00:28:28.839><c> an</c><00:28:29.079><c> arrow</c><00:28:29.220><c> here</c><00:28:29.460><c> to</c><00:28:29.660><c> indicate</c><00:28:30.099><c> how</c>

00:28:30.700 --> 00:28:33.579
the<00:28:31.119><c> Jew</c><00:28:31.319><c> is</c><00:28:31.660><c> removed</c><00:28:32.019><c> from</c><00:28:32.240><c> the</c><00:28:32.460><c> effects</c><00:28:32.740><c> that</c><00:28:32.980><c> are</c><00:28:33.140><c> legal</c>

00:28:33.579 --> 00:28:36.819
and<00:28:34.299><c> then</c><00:28:34.440><c> only</c><00:28:34.700><c> inherits</c><00:28:35.119><c> the</c><00:28:35.400><c> effects</c><00:28:35.640><c> that</c><00:28:35.779><c> are</c><00:28:35.960><c> physical.</c>

00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:39.299
What<00:28:37.740><c> happens</c><00:28:38.099><c> with</c><00:28:38.319><c> Jesus?</c>

00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:42.240
Well,<00:28:40.440><c> with</c><00:28:40.700><c> Jesus,</c><00:28:41.319><c> said</c><00:28:41.440><c> J</c><00:28:41.720><c>.J.</c><00:28:42.079><c> Andrews,</c>

00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:45.380
his<00:28:42.539><c> legal</c><00:28:42.940><c> condemnation</c><00:28:43.700><c> was</c><00:28:43.980><c> removed</c><00:28:44.460><c> when</c><00:28:44.759><c> that</c><00:28:45.119><c> time.</c>

00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:49.799
I<00:28:46.099><c> cited</c><00:28:46.299><c> to</c><00:28:46.599><c> you</c><00:28:47.240><c> the</c><00:28:47.700><c> account</c><00:28:48.019><c> in</c><00:28:48.359><c> the</c><00:28:48.619><c> Advocate</c><00:28:49.039><c> magazine</c>

00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:53.119
as<00:28:50.680><c> they</c><00:28:51.000><c> set</c><00:28:51.160><c> out</c><00:28:51.279><c> the</c><00:28:51.480><c> case</c><00:28:51.720><c> there.</c>

00:28:53.339 --> 00:28:55.420
The<00:28:53.500><c> Advocate</c><00:28:53.900><c> magazine</c><00:28:54.500><c> says</c><00:28:54.839><c> this,</c>

00:28:55.779 --> 00:28:59.160
an<00:28:55.940><c> adult</c><00:28:56.440><c> devoid</c><00:28:56.920><c> of</c><00:28:57.140><c> personal</c><00:28:57.599><c> transgression,</c><00:28:58.339><c> like</c><00:28:58.579><c> Jesus,</c>

00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:02.779
would<00:28:59.900><c> upon</c><00:29:00.220><c> that</c><00:29:00.480><c> didn't</c><00:29:00.779><c> be</c><00:29:01.140><c> forgiven</c><00:29:01.440><c> a</c><00:29:01.700><c> damning</c><00:29:02.019><c> sin.</c>

00:29:03.019 --> 00:29:05.819
So<00:29:03.200><c> Jesus,</c><00:29:03.579><c> when</c><00:29:03.759><c> he</c><00:29:03.859><c> was</c><00:29:04.079><c> baptized</c><00:29:04.480><c> had</c><00:29:04.740><c> no</c><00:29:04.900><c> personal</c><00:29:05.440><c> sins,</c>

00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:07.559
so<00:29:06.339><c> why</c><00:29:06.519><c> was</c><00:29:06.619><c> he</c><00:29:06.799><c> baptized?</c>

00:29:07.740 --> 00:29:10.160
He<00:29:08.059><c> was</c><00:29:08.359><c> baptized,</c><00:29:08.940><c> says</c><00:29:09.000><c> J</c><00:29:09.299><c>.J.</c><00:29:09.579><c> Andrews,</c>

00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:14.299
to<00:29:10.660><c> remove</c><00:29:11.640><c> legal</c><00:29:12.759><c> condemnation.</c>

00:29:15.259 --> 00:29:16.019
Do<00:29:15.420><c> you</c><00:29:15.460><c> see</c><00:29:15.579><c> that?</c>

00:29:16.019 --> 00:29:19.119
Thus<00:29:16.940><c> it</c><00:29:17.200><c> becomes</c><00:29:17.519><c> a</c><00:29:17.680><c> thought</c><00:29:17.839><c> that</c><00:29:18.039><c> will</c><00:29:18.160><c> fulfill</c><00:29:18.420><c> all</c><00:29:18.680><c> righteousness</c>

00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:23.119
to<00:29:19.539><c> choose</c><00:29:19.799><c> by</c><00:29:20.099><c> circumcision</c><00:29:20.819><c> Jesus</c><00:29:21.480><c> by</c><00:29:21.819><c> being</c><00:29:22.119><c> baptized.</c>

00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:26.099
Now<00:29:23.519><c> when</c><00:29:23.660><c> he</c><00:29:23.720><c> was</c><00:29:23.980><c> crucified,</c><00:29:24.700><c> says</c><00:29:24.839><c> J</c><00:29:25.099><c>.J.</c><00:29:25.460><c> Andrews,</c>

00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:29.640
then<00:29:26.539><c> he</c><00:29:26.880><c> provided</c><00:29:27.400><c> the</c><00:29:27.859><c> sacrificial</c><00:29:28.380><c> means</c><00:29:28.720><c> whereby</c>

00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:33.440
any<00:29:30.799><c> who</c><00:29:30.920><c> are</c><00:29:31.140><c> baptized</c><00:29:31.579><c> subsequently</c><00:29:32.279><c> could</c><00:29:32.619><c> be</c><00:29:32.880><c> removed</c>

00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:36.220
from<00:29:34.400><c> legal</c><00:29:34.920><c> condemnation.</c>

00:29:36.339 --> 00:29:40.960
So<00:29:36.660><c> a</c><00:29:36.980><c> believing</c><00:29:37.220><c> Jew</c><00:29:37.539><c> or</c><00:29:37.720><c> a</c><00:29:37.799><c> Gentile</c><00:29:38.299><c> then,</c><00:29:39.420><c> upon</c><00:29:39.720><c> baptism,</c>

00:29:41.220 --> 00:29:43.779
appropriated<00:29:41.799><c> the</c><00:29:42.059><c> sacrificial</c><00:29:42.660><c> work</c><00:29:42.940><c> of</c><00:29:43.119><c> Christ</c><00:29:43.279><c> Jesus</c>

00:29:43.779 --> 00:29:47.319
and<00:29:44.259><c> the</c><00:29:44.500><c> legal</c><00:29:44.980><c> condemnation</c><00:29:45.640><c> was</c><00:29:45.839><c> removed</c><00:29:46.160><c> at</c><00:29:46.380><c> baptism.</c>

00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:48.940
So<00:29:47.700><c> we</c><00:29:47.859><c> have</c><00:29:48.000><c> a</c><00:29:48.180><c> syllogism.</c>

00:29:49.380 --> 00:29:53.180
Said<00:29:49.480><c> Andrew,</c><00:29:51.339><c> a</c><00:29:51.460><c> man</c><00:29:51.839><c> cannot</c><00:29:52.299><c> be</c><00:29:52.839><c> raised</c>

00:29:53.180 --> 00:29:57.519
unless<00:29:54.440><c> legal</c><00:29:55.480><c> condemnation</c><00:29:56.279><c> is</c><00:29:56.559><c> removed.</c>

00:29:57.819 --> 00:29:59.740
Because<00:29:58.140><c> you</c><00:29:58.380><c> see</c><00:29:58.440><c> that</c><00:29:58.680><c> was</c><00:29:58.880><c> a</c><00:29:59.039><c> legal</c><00:29:59.319><c> sentence</c>

00:29:59.740 --> 00:30:02.240
that<00:30:00.019><c> kept</c><00:30:00.180><c> the</c><00:30:00.380><c> man</c><00:30:00.619><c> eternally</c><00:30:01.119><c> in</c><00:30:01.259><c> the</c><00:30:01.420><c> grave.</c>

00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:07.019
But<00:30:03.480><c> legal</c><00:30:03.900><c> condemnation</c><00:30:04.720><c> is</c><00:30:05.099><c> only</c><00:30:05.480><c> removed</c><00:30:05.819><c> by</c><00:30:06.079><c> baptism.</c>

00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:11.599
Therefore,<00:30:09.059><c> since</c><00:30:09.319><c> an</c><00:30:09.500><c> enlightened</c><00:30:09.859><c> rejector</c><00:30:10.539><c> cannot</c><00:30:10.960><c> be</c><00:30:11.400><c> raised,</c>

00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:14.339
therefore<00:30:12.160><c> an</c><00:30:12.359><c> enlightened</c><00:30:12.599><c> rejector</c><00:30:13.099><c> cannot</c><00:30:13.440><c> be</c><00:30:13.779><c> raised</c>

00:30:14.339 --> 00:30:16.779
since<00:30:14.779><c> he</c><00:30:15.000><c> is</c><00:30:15.099><c> not</c><00:30:15.240><c> at</c><00:30:15.400><c> that</c><00:30:15.640><c> time.</c>

00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:22.140
Does<00:30:18.079><c> that</c><00:30:18.400><c> baptism</c><00:30:18.680><c> apply</c><00:30:19.099><c> to</c><00:30:19.319><c> any</c><00:30:19.519><c> baptism</c><00:30:20.019><c> by</c><00:30:20.720><c> any</c><00:30:21.180><c> denomination?</c>

00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.099
No,<00:30:22.500><c> no,</c><00:30:22.680><c> that's</c><00:30:24.059><c> just</c><00:30:24.200><c> Christodoc.</c>

00:30:25.920 --> 00:30:28.779
Now<00:30:25.920><c> you</c><00:30:26.599><c> see</c><00:30:26.720><c> that's</c><00:30:27.059><c> a</c><00:30:27.140><c> very</c><00:30:27.319><c> logical</c><00:30:27.779><c> case.</c>

00:30:29.059 --> 00:30:32.059
If<00:30:29.319><c> you</c><00:30:29.579><c> can</c><00:30:29.920><c> see</c><00:30:30.180><c> the</c><00:30:30.420><c> premises</c><00:30:30.920><c> to</c><00:30:31.299><c> J</c><00:30:31.519><c>.J.</c><00:30:31.759><c> Andrews</c>

00:30:32.059 --> 00:30:36.000
that<00:30:32.259><c> you</c><00:30:32.539><c> inherit</c><00:30:33.079><c> a</c><00:30:33.640><c> legal</c><00:30:34.700><c> defilement,</c>

00:30:36.500 --> 00:30:39.640
a<00:30:36.660><c> legal</c><00:30:37.059><c> condemnation</c><00:30:38.000><c> as</c><00:30:38.440><c> well</c><00:30:38.700><c> as</c><00:30:38.839><c> the</c><00:30:39.059><c> physical</c><00:30:39.299><c> effects</c>

00:30:39.640 --> 00:30:41.460
which<00:30:39.819><c> everybody</c><00:30:40.200><c> agrees</c><00:30:40.559><c> with,</c>

00:30:41.619 --> 00:30:43.720
then<00:30:41.839><c> you</c><00:30:42.059><c> see</c><00:30:42.200><c> the</c><00:30:42.460><c> problem</c><00:30:42.640><c> that</c><00:30:42.799><c> you're</c><00:30:43.019><c> in.</c>

00:30:44.180 --> 00:30:47.380
And<00:30:44.359><c> in</c><00:30:44.579><c> the</c><00:30:44.680><c> debate</c><00:30:45.180><c> with</c><00:30:45.859><c> Robert</c><00:30:46.299><c> Roberts,</c>

00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:49.880
J<00:30:47.680><c>.J.</c><00:30:47.940><c> Andrews</c><00:30:48.299><c> is</c><00:30:48.599><c> continually</c><00:30:49.220><c> trying</c><00:30:49.480><c> to</c><00:30:49.700><c> work</c>

00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:51.380
Robert<00:30:50.240><c> Roberts</c><00:30:50.599><c> into</c><00:30:50.799><c> a</c><00:30:51.019><c> corner</c>

00:30:51.380 --> 00:30:54.359
because<00:30:52.220><c> if</c><00:30:52.400><c> he</c><00:30:52.500><c> ever</c><00:30:52.779><c> conceived</c><00:30:53.180><c> the</c><00:30:53.480><c> premises,</c>

00:30:54.579 --> 00:30:58.380
then<00:30:54.700><c> J</c><00:30:55.019><c>.J.</c><00:30:55.200><c> Andrews'</c><00:30:55.619><c> theory</c><00:30:55.819><c> is</c><00:30:56.259><c> logically</c><00:30:57.319><c> tight.</c>

00:30:59.019 --> 00:31:01.700
And<00:30:59.440><c> so</c><00:30:59.599><c> you</c><00:30:59.779><c> see,</c><00:31:00.160><c> the</c><00:31:00.359><c> legacy</c><00:31:00.579><c> we</c><00:31:00.819><c> have</c><00:31:00.920><c> in</c><00:31:01.160><c> America</c>

00:31:01.700 --> 00:31:04.539
is<00:31:02.380><c> not</c><00:31:02.579><c> that</c><00:31:02.759><c> the</c><00:31:03.019><c> resurrection</c><00:31:03.480><c> issue</c><00:31:03.980><c> so</c><00:31:04.319><c> much</c>

00:31:04.539 --> 00:31:07.220
has<00:31:04.779><c> been</c><00:31:04.960><c> a</c><00:31:05.180><c> problem</c><00:31:05.480><c> devoid</c><00:31:05.940><c> of</c><00:31:06.079><c> any</c><00:31:06.240><c> other</c><00:31:06.440><c> consideration</c>

00:31:07.220 --> 00:31:09.339
and<00:31:07.920><c> just</c><00:31:08.160><c> that</c><00:31:08.339><c> some</c><00:31:08.519><c> unamended</c><00:31:08.940><c> president</c>

00:31:09.339 --> 00:31:11.759
does<00:31:09.599><c> not</c><00:31:09.779><c> agree</c><00:31:10.000><c> with</c><00:31:10.140><c> this</c><00:31:10.240><c> as</c><00:31:10.400><c> to</c><00:31:10.500><c> who</c><00:31:10.619><c> will</c><00:31:10.779><c> be</c><00:31:10.900><c> raised.</c>

00:31:12.819 --> 00:31:16.240
It's<00:31:13.339><c> rather</c><00:31:13.859><c> a</c><00:31:14.619><c> problem</c><00:31:15.039><c> that</c><00:31:15.359><c> has</c><00:31:15.660><c> its</c><00:31:15.980><c> roots</c>

00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:18.740
in<00:31:16.480><c> this</c><00:31:16.779><c> question</c><00:31:17.059><c> of</c><00:31:17.240><c> the</c><00:31:17.440><c> atonement.</c>

00:31:18.980 --> 00:31:21.299
A<00:31:19.160><c> man</c><00:31:19.400><c> inherits</c><00:31:19.940><c> a</c><00:31:20.200><c> legal</c><00:31:20.559><c> condemnation</c>

00:31:21.299 --> 00:31:22.779
and<00:31:21.539><c> a</c><00:31:21.700><c> physical</c><00:31:22.019><c> condemnation.</c>

00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:24.579
If<00:31:23.259><c> he</c><00:31:23.440><c> does</c><00:31:23.700><c> not</c><00:31:23.940><c> get</c><00:31:24.119><c> out</c><00:31:24.299><c> from</c><00:31:24.420><c> underneath</c>

00:31:24.579 --> 00:31:26.460
the<00:31:24.900><c> weight</c><00:31:25.000><c> of</c><00:31:25.200><c> that</c><00:31:25.359><c> legal</c><00:31:25.640><c> condemnation,</c>

00:31:26.619 --> 00:31:28.839
then<00:31:26.799><c> he</c><00:31:27.019><c> is</c><00:31:27.299><c> irrevocably</c><00:31:27.980><c> reserved</c><00:31:28.359><c> in</c><00:31:28.519><c> the</c><00:31:28.680><c> grave.</c>

00:31:29.299 --> 00:31:32.559
He<00:31:29.539><c> cannot</c><00:31:30.019><c> come</c><00:31:30.299><c> out</c><00:31:30.680><c> because</c><00:31:31.160><c> that</c><00:31:31.519><c> legal</c><00:31:31.880><c> sentence</c><00:31:32.279><c> keeps</c>

00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:33.539
him<00:31:32.799><c> there.</c>

00:31:33.700 --> 00:31:35.240
How<00:31:34.000><c> is</c><00:31:34.140><c> the</c><00:31:34.279><c> legal</c><00:31:34.460><c> sentence</c><00:31:34.779><c> removed?</c>

00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:36.619
By<00:31:35.680><c> baptism.</c>

00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:38.359
Therefore,<00:31:37.640><c> the</c><00:31:37.799><c> enlightened</c><00:31:38.079><c> rejector,</c>

00:31:38.779 --> 00:31:43.079
said<00:31:38.920><c> J</c><00:31:39.220><c>.J.</c><00:31:39.859><c> Andrews,</c><00:31:40.579><c> to</c><00:31:40.940><c> put</c><00:31:41.140><c> it</c><00:31:41.319><c> in</c><00:31:41.640><c> our</c><00:31:41.960><c> terminology,</c>

00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:45.440
an<00:31:43.380><c> enlightened</c><00:31:43.579><c> rejector,</c><00:31:44.200><c> it's</c><00:31:44.380><c> impossible</c><00:31:44.960><c> for</c><00:31:45.200><c> him</c><00:31:45.339><c> to</c>

00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:45.720
be<00:31:45.619><c> raised.</c>

00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:50.759
He<00:31:45.920><c> can</c><00:31:46.220><c> be</c><00:31:46.480><c> raised</c><00:31:46.859><c> because</c><00:31:47.480><c> he's</c><00:31:47.900><c> still</c><00:31:48.259><c> under</c><00:31:49.119><c> legal</c><00:31:49.980><c> condemnation.</c>

00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:53.900
And<00:31:51.440><c> until</c><00:31:51.660><c> baptized,</c><00:31:52.559><c> this</c><00:31:52.819><c> is</c><00:31:52.940><c> not</c><00:31:53.119><c> true.</c>

00:31:54.500 --> 00:31:58.359
And<00:31:54.720><c> we've</c><00:31:54.960><c> set</c><00:31:55.019><c> this</c><00:31:55.299><c> out</c><00:31:55.880><c> on</c><00:31:57.180><c> a</c><00:31:57.440><c> chart</c><00:31:57.559><c> here,</c>

00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:00.980
which<00:31:58.920><c> is</c><00:31:59.039><c> not</c><00:31:59.240><c> quite</c><00:31:59.480><c> complete,</c><00:32:00.319><c> but</c><00:32:00.460><c> nevertheless,</c>

00:32:00.980 --> 00:32:06.700
it<00:32:01.460><c> puts</c><00:32:01.700><c> out</c><00:32:02.680><c> the</c><00:32:04.400><c> principle</c><00:32:05.279><c> teaching</c><00:32:05.680><c> that</c><00:32:05.859><c> we</c><00:32:06.079><c> have</c><00:32:06.200><c> so</c><00:32:06.539><c> far</c>

00:32:06.700 --> 00:32:08.119
on<00:32:06.940><c> Europe,</c><00:32:07.339><c> by</c><00:32:07.339><c> the</c><00:32:07.400><c> way.</c>

00:32:08.460 --> 00:32:10.720
Atonement<00:32:08.880><c> of</c><00:32:09.039><c> all</c><00:32:09.319><c> physical</c><00:32:09.920><c> effects.</c>

00:32:11.019 --> 00:32:13.740
So<00:32:11.200><c> far,</c><00:32:11.640><c> Robert</c><00:32:11.839><c> Roberts</c><00:32:12.140><c> and</c><00:32:12.299><c> everyone</c><00:32:12.720><c> that's</c><00:32:13.059><c> a</c><00:32:13.099><c> Christadelphian</c>

00:32:13.740 --> 00:32:15.940
since<00:32:14.039><c> the</c><00:32:14.299><c> central</c><00:32:14.559><c> fellowship</c><00:32:14.920><c> agrees,</c>

00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:18.920
we<00:32:16.220><c> have</c><00:32:16.440><c> inherited</c><00:32:16.839><c> mortality,</c><00:32:18.200><c> a</c><00:32:18.220><c> cynical</c><00:32:18.500><c> nature,</c>

00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:21.079
and<00:32:19.480><c> a</c><00:32:19.559><c> defiled</c><00:32:19.960><c> conscience.</c>

00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:24.700
But<00:32:22.119><c> legal</c><00:32:22.579><c> condemnation</c><00:32:23.299><c> we</c><00:32:23.519><c> do</c><00:32:23.779><c> not</c><00:32:23.980><c> agree</c><00:32:24.279><c> to</c>

00:32:24.700 --> 00:32:28.140
because<00:32:25.880><c> legal</c><00:32:26.420><c> condemnation</c><00:32:27.240><c> means</c><00:32:27.400><c> that</c><00:32:27.660><c> we</c><00:32:27.859><c> inherit</c>

00:32:28.140 --> 00:32:30.759
not<00:32:28.380><c> only</c><00:32:28.960><c> the</c><00:32:29.299><c> effects</c><00:32:29.759><c> of</c><00:32:30.160><c> that</c><00:32:30.380><c> of</c><00:32:30.559><c> sin,</c>

00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:33.440
but<00:32:31.420><c> the</c><00:32:31.640><c> guilt</c><00:32:31.900><c> of</c><00:32:32.079><c> that</c><00:32:32.319><c> of</c><00:32:32.440><c> sin.</c>

00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:36.019
It's<00:32:33.680><c> racial</c><00:32:34.059><c> because</c><00:32:34.420><c> the</c><00:32:34.720><c> human</c><00:32:34.960><c> race,</c>

00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:38.599
by<00:32:36.359><c> virtue</c><00:32:36.740><c> of</c><00:32:36.920><c> being</c><00:32:37.279><c> a</c><00:32:37.440><c> human</c><00:32:37.700><c> being,</c>

00:32:38.880 --> 00:32:41.380
you<00:32:39.140><c> are</c><00:32:39.559><c> alienated</c><00:32:40.480><c> from</c><00:32:40.839><c> God</c><00:32:41.039><c> Almighty</c>

00:32:41.380 --> 00:32:44.859
because<00:32:42.099><c> you</c><00:32:42.279><c> have</c><00:32:42.460><c> inherited</c><00:32:42.819><c> an</c><00:32:43.019><c> illegal</c><00:32:43.359><c> condemnation.</c>

00:32:45.019 --> 00:32:48.240
And<00:32:45.299><c> that's</c><00:32:45.799><c> equivalent</c><00:32:46.000><c> to</c><00:32:46.960><c> eternal</c><00:32:47.279><c> death.</c>

00:32:48.380 --> 00:32:49.720
For<00:32:48.619><c> a</c><00:32:48.700><c> Jew,</c><00:32:48.839><c> as</c><00:32:48.960><c> we</c><00:32:49.140><c> pointed</c><00:32:49.319><c> out,</c>

00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:51.839
when<00:32:50.160><c> circumcised</c><00:32:50.819><c> at</c><00:32:51.039><c> eight</c><00:32:51.299><c> days</c><00:32:51.599><c> old,</c>

00:32:51.900 --> 00:32:53.980
he<00:32:52.000><c> was</c><00:32:52.279><c> inducted</c><00:32:52.660><c> into</c><00:32:52.920><c> the</c><00:32:53.079><c> Abrahamic</c><00:32:53.619><c> covenant,</c>

00:32:53.980 --> 00:32:58.819
and<00:32:54.480><c> typically</c><00:32:55.039><c> he</c><00:32:55.819><c> was</c><00:32:57.180><c> pending</c><00:32:57.940><c> the</c><00:32:58.359><c> removal</c>

00:32:58.819 --> 00:33:01.299
of<00:32:59.460><c> the</c><00:32:59.619><c> legal</c><00:32:59.880><c> condemnation</c><00:33:00.519><c> of</c><00:33:00.700><c> the</c><00:33:00.779><c> sacrifice</c>

00:33:01.299 --> 00:33:03.140
of<00:33:01.539><c> the</c><00:33:01.559><c> Lord</c><00:33:01.740><c> Jesus</c><00:33:02.099><c> Christ,</c>

00:33:03.380 --> 00:33:04.960
his<00:33:03.519><c> legal</c><00:33:03.819><c> condemnation</c><00:33:04.359><c> was</c><00:33:04.579><c> removed.</c>

00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:09.380
Not<00:33:05.460><c> personal</c><00:33:05.920><c> sins,</c><00:33:06.980><c> but</c><00:33:07.079><c> legal</c><00:33:07.559><c> condemnation.</c>

00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:11.099
Similar<00:33:10.019><c> to</c><00:33:10.220><c> the</c><00:33:10.339><c> Gentile</c><00:33:10.880><c> now,</c>

00:33:11.099 --> 00:33:14.339
he<00:33:11.359><c> continued</c><00:33:11.779><c> to</c><00:33:12.039><c> labor</c><00:33:12.420><c> under</c><00:33:13.079><c> both</c><00:33:13.380><c> legal</c><00:33:13.740><c> condemnation</c>

00:33:14.339 --> 00:33:17.279
and<00:33:14.500><c> physical</c><00:33:15.119><c> condemnation</c><00:33:15.819><c> because</c><00:33:16.220><c> there</c><00:33:16.759><c> was</c><00:33:16.940><c> no</c><00:33:17.079><c> way</c>

00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:19.519
that<00:33:17.460><c> he</c><00:33:17.519><c> could</c><00:33:17.740><c> come</c><00:33:17.960><c> out</c><00:33:18.119><c> underneath</c><00:33:18.380><c> this</c><00:33:18.700><c> burden.</c>

00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:21.440
So<00:33:19.940><c> you</c><00:33:20.059><c> see,</c><00:33:20.200><c> there</c><00:33:20.259><c> was</c><00:33:20.480><c> a</c><00:33:20.680><c> special</c><00:33:20.920><c> provision</c>

00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:24.019
in<00:33:21.619><c> the</c><00:33:21.920><c> Andrewist</c><00:33:22.440><c> view</c><00:33:22.779><c> for</c><00:33:23.200><c> the</c><00:33:23.420><c> Jew</c><00:33:23.559><c> only,</c>

00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:25.740
but<00:33:24.460><c> not</c><00:33:24.759><c> for</c><00:33:24.980><c> the</c><00:33:25.079><c> Gentile,</c>

00:33:25.900 --> 00:33:28.940
unless<00:33:26.240><c> he</c><00:33:26.500><c> became</c><00:33:26.859><c> a</c><00:33:27.079><c> proselyte</c><00:33:27.680><c> and</c><00:33:27.900><c> was</c><00:33:28.119><c> circumcised.</c>

00:33:29.740 --> 00:33:33.019
So<00:33:29.980><c> the</c><00:33:30.460><c> Gentile,</c><00:33:31.259><c> the</c><00:33:31.359><c> Babylonian,</c><00:33:31.900><c> the</c><00:33:32.160><c> Hittite,</c>

00:33:33.539 --> 00:33:37.160
Amorite<00:33:34.099><c> all</c><00:33:34.599><c> labored</c><00:33:34.859><c> under</c><00:33:35.460><c> legal</c><00:33:35.839><c> condemnation.</c>

00:33:37.779 --> 00:33:40.900
For<00:33:38.039><c> Christ</c><00:33:38.339><c> Jesus,</c><00:33:39.500><c> his</c><00:33:39.680><c> legal</c><00:33:40.140><c> condemnation,</c>

00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:44.119
since<00:33:41.240><c> he</c><00:33:41.480><c> was</c><00:33:42.099><c> raised</c><00:33:42.420><c> up</c><00:33:42.700><c> in</c><00:33:42.940><c> the</c><00:33:43.099><c> condemned</c><00:33:43.400><c> mind</c><00:33:43.619><c> of</c><00:33:43.859><c> Adam,</c>

00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:45.799
as<00:33:44.519><c> our</c><00:33:44.759><c> statement</c><00:33:45.000><c> of</c><00:33:45.180><c> faith</c><00:33:45.319><c> said,</c>

00:33:46.259 --> 00:33:47.680
and<00:33:46.460><c> as</c><00:33:46.619><c> J</c><00:33:46.759><c>.J.</c><00:33:46.920><c> Andrews</c><00:33:47.240><c> believed,</c>

00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:50.440
he<00:33:48.180><c> had</c><00:33:48.440><c> to</c><00:33:48.559><c> be</c><00:33:48.799><c> removed</c><00:33:49.000><c> from</c><00:33:49.279><c> legal</c><00:33:49.619><c> condemnation.</c>

00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:52.039
So<00:33:51.059><c> when</c><00:33:51.240><c> he</c><00:33:51.339><c> was</c><00:33:51.559><c> baptized,</c>

00:33:52.099 --> 00:33:53.880
he<00:33:52.220><c> wasn't</c><00:33:52.480><c> baptized</c><00:33:52.960><c> for</c><00:33:53.220><c> personal</c><00:33:53.539><c> sins,</c>

00:33:53.980 --> 00:33:55.619
he<00:33:54.220><c> had</c><00:33:54.500><c> no</c><00:33:54.740><c> sins.</c>

00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:57.599
Therefore,<00:33:56.599><c> said</c><00:33:56.759><c> J</c><00:33:57.059><c>.J.</c><00:33:57.359><c> Andrews,</c>

00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:01.700
he<00:33:57.740><c> was</c><00:33:58.059><c> baptized</c><00:33:58.539><c> to</c><00:33:58.920><c> remove</c><00:33:59.420><c> the</c><00:33:59.900><c> legal</c><00:34:00.380><c> condemnation.</c>

00:34:02.539 --> 00:34:04.819
In<00:34:02.880><c> his</c><00:34:03.180><c> sacrificial</c><00:34:03.740><c> work,</c>

00:34:04.980 --> 00:34:08.639
he<00:34:05.299><c> affected</c><00:34:05.720><c> the</c><00:34:06.000><c> means</c><00:34:06.259><c> whereby</c><00:34:06.819><c> any</c><00:34:07.559><c> believing,</c>

00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:11.760
the<00:34:08.900><c> gospel</c><00:34:09.300><c> message</c><00:34:10.000><c> appropriating</c><00:34:11.079><c> the</c><00:34:11.300><c> sacrifice</c>

00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:14.579
of<00:34:12.000><c> Christ</c><00:34:12.219><c> in</c><00:34:12.360><c> baptism</c><00:34:12.860><c> could</c><00:34:13.440><c> also</c><00:34:13.860><c> come</c><00:34:14.179><c> from</c>

00:34:14.579 --> 00:34:17.480
underneath<00:34:15.500><c> this</c><00:34:16.219><c> legal</c><00:34:16.659><c> condemnation</c>

00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:19.980
of<00:34:17.780><c> being</c><00:34:18.019><c> sentenced</c><00:34:18.500><c> to</c><00:34:18.719><c> eternal</c><00:34:19.039><c> death.</c>

00:34:20.500 --> 00:34:22.360
And<00:34:21.019><c> so</c><00:34:21.300><c> we</c><00:34:21.420><c> have</c><00:34:21.639><c> the</c><00:34:21.780><c> soldiers</c><00:34:22.019><c> in</c><00:34:22.239><c> here,</c>

00:34:22.380 --> 00:34:24.400
which<00:34:22.519><c> we</c><00:34:22.699><c> have</c><00:34:22.860><c> already</c><00:34:23.099><c> referred</c><00:34:23.460><c> to.</c>

00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:31.420
Now<00:34:25.900><c> that</c><00:34:26.119><c> outlines</c><00:34:26.860><c> briefly</c><00:34:29.239><c> Andrewism.</c>

00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:34.599
Now<00:34:31.760><c> it's</c><00:34:31.960><c> not</c><00:34:32.119><c> my</c><00:34:32.260><c> purpose</c><00:34:32.579><c> tonight</c><00:34:32.840><c> to</c><00:34:33.000><c> consider</c><00:34:33.539><c> Andrewism</c>

00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:37.659
in<00:34:35.480><c> any</c><00:34:35.920><c> more</c><00:34:36.159><c> detail</c><00:34:36.500><c> except</c><00:34:36.960><c> to</c><00:34:37.260><c> say</c>

00:34:37.659 --> 00:34:40.940
that<00:34:38.340><c> when</c><00:34:38.539><c> we</c><00:34:38.760><c> refer</c><00:34:39.059><c> to</c><00:34:39.480><c> imperative</c><00:34:40.119><c> alienation,</c>

00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:43.340
this<00:34:41.199><c> is</c><00:34:41.500><c> exactly</c><00:34:41.940><c> what</c><00:34:42.219><c> we</c><00:34:42.480><c> mean.</c>

00:34:43.420 --> 00:34:45.940
I<00:34:43.619><c> tried</c><00:34:43.940><c> to</c><00:34:44.159><c> present</c><00:34:44.440><c> here</c><00:34:44.820><c> graphically,</c>

00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:48.800
which<00:34:46.739><c> is</c><00:34:46.940><c> something</c><00:34:47.340><c> which</c><00:34:47.699><c> must,</c><00:34:48.039><c> for</c><00:34:48.079><c> many</c><00:34:48.400><c> of</c><00:34:48.579><c> you,</c>

00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:52.079
has<00:34:49.179><c> been</c><00:34:49.699><c> a</c><00:34:49.780><c> very</c><00:34:50.219><c> difficult</c><00:34:50.579><c> idea</c><00:34:51.099><c> to</c><00:34:51.320><c> ever</c><00:34:51.500><c> get</c><00:34:51.699><c> a</c><00:34:51.940><c> hold</c>

00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:54.920
of<00:34:52.219><c> this</c><00:34:53.099><c> abstract</c><00:34:53.880><c> volume</c><00:34:54.260><c> of</c><00:34:54.639><c> information</c>

00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:58.320
that<00:34:55.159><c> seems</c><00:34:55.300><c> so</c><00:34:55.619><c> difficult</c><00:34:56.019><c> to</c><00:34:56.260><c> see</c><00:34:56.440><c> the</c><00:34:56.500><c> way</c><00:34:56.619><c> it</c><00:34:56.739><c> all</c><00:34:56.940><c> fits</c><00:34:57.119><c> in.</c>

00:34:58.360 --> 00:34:59.500
As<00:34:58.480><c> far</c><00:34:58.699><c> as</c><00:34:58.800><c> I</c><00:34:58.920><c> can</c><00:34:59.179><c> tell,</c>

00:34:59.739 --> 00:35:02.019
reading<00:35:00.079><c> the</c><00:35:00.519><c> works</c><00:35:00.739><c> of</c><00:35:01.019><c> J</c><00:35:01.159><c>.J.</c><00:35:01.500><c> Andrews,</c>

00:35:02.099 --> 00:35:04.800
that<00:35:02.340><c> is,</c><00:35:02.659><c> in</c><00:35:02.820><c> a</c><00:35:03.079><c> nutshell,</c><00:35:04.119><c> what</c><00:35:04.199><c> he</c><00:35:04.480><c> taught.</c>

00:35:05.260 --> 00:35:07.179
And<00:35:05.519><c> it</c><00:35:05.599><c> was</c><00:35:05.780><c> rejected</c><00:35:06.199><c> by</c><00:35:06.519><c> Christadelphians</c>

00:35:07.179 --> 00:35:09.039
because<00:35:07.579><c> Christadelphians</c><00:35:08.300><c> do</c><00:35:08.539><c> not</c><00:35:08.820><c> believe</c>

00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:11.519
that<00:35:09.239><c> we</c><00:35:09.460><c> inherit</c><00:35:09.900><c> these</c><00:35:10.300><c> things</c><00:35:10.619><c> here.</c>

00:35:11.900 --> 00:35:13.199
So<00:35:12.239><c> this</c><00:35:12.559><c> syllogism</c><00:35:13.000><c> here,</c>

00:35:13.219 --> 00:35:16.340
which<00:35:13.380><c> keeps</c><00:35:13.679><c> a</c><00:35:13.900><c> man</c><00:35:14.159><c> in</c><00:35:14.400><c> the</c><00:35:14.539><c> grave</c><00:35:14.820><c> unless</c><00:35:15.179><c> baptized,</c>

00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:19.599
simply<00:35:17.000><c> is</c><00:35:17.239><c> a</c><00:35:17.360><c> conclusion</c><00:35:18.079><c> that</c><00:35:18.440><c> has</c><00:35:18.619><c> come</c><00:35:18.780><c> from</c><00:35:19.059><c> premises</c>

00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:21.019
that<00:35:20.260><c> are</c><00:35:20.420><c> erroneous.</c>

00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:23.019
But<00:35:21.739><c> you</c><00:35:22.039><c> see,</c><00:35:22.480><c> brothers</c><00:35:22.480><c> and</c><00:35:22.780><c> sisters,</c>

00:35:23.059 --> 00:35:26.480
that<00:35:23.300><c> the</c><00:35:23.519><c> whole</c><00:35:23.880><c> problem</c><00:35:24.500><c> comes</c><00:35:24.880><c> back</c><00:35:25.280><c> to</c><00:35:25.599><c> Genesis.</c>

00:35:27.059 --> 00:35:30.019
If<00:35:27.260><c> you</c><00:35:27.460><c> can</c><00:35:27.679><c> offer</c><00:35:27.800><c> the</c><00:35:28.039><c> wrong</c><00:35:28.320><c> footing</c><00:35:28.519><c> in</c><00:35:28.780><c> Genesis</c><00:35:29.199><c> chapter</c><00:35:29.559><c> 3,</c>

00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:32.920
then<00:35:30.400><c> you</c><00:35:30.559><c> can</c><00:35:30.860><c> build</c><00:35:31.139><c> an</c><00:35:31.400><c> elaborate</c><00:35:31.780><c> theory</c><00:35:32.119><c> of</c><00:35:32.280><c> the</c><00:35:32.420><c> atonement.</c>

00:35:33.179 --> 00:35:35.719
It's<00:35:33.320><c> like</c><00:35:33.440><c> the</c><00:35:33.619><c> man</c><00:35:33.860><c> who</c><00:35:34.019><c> holds</c><00:35:34.099><c> the</c><00:35:34.360><c> immortality</c><00:35:34.800><c> of</c><00:35:35.059><c> the</c><00:35:35.059><c> soul.</c>

00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:39.139
If<00:35:36.320><c> he</c><00:35:36.500><c> gets</c><00:35:36.559><c> the</c><00:35:36.860><c> immortality</c><00:35:37.340><c> of</c><00:35:37.619><c> the</c><00:35:37.659><c> soul</c><00:35:37.800><c> out</c><00:35:37.960><c> of</c><00:35:38.039><c> Genesis,</c>

00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:42.659
then<00:35:39.539><c> think</c><00:35:39.800><c> of</c><00:35:40.000><c> the</c><00:35:40.159><c> enigma</c><00:35:40.380><c> he's</c><00:35:40.699><c> got</c><00:35:40.760><c> of</c><00:35:40.900><c> the</c><00:35:41.099><c> sacrifice</c><00:35:41.519><c> of</c><00:35:41.760><c> Christ</c>

00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:46.960
when<00:35:43.320><c> he</c><00:35:43.440><c> has</c><00:35:43.679><c> the</c><00:35:43.840><c> God</c><00:35:44.039><c> of</c><00:35:44.199><c> the</c><00:35:44.300><c> universe</c><00:35:44.659><c> dying</c><00:35:45.119><c> on</c><00:35:45.360><c> a</c><00:35:45.480><c> torture</c><00:35:45.719><c> state.</c>

00:35:47.380 --> 00:35:49.320
Because<00:35:47.639><c> then</c><00:35:47.840><c> he</c><00:35:47.880><c> has</c><00:35:48.119><c> the</c><00:35:48.340><c> God</c><00:35:48.519><c> of</c><00:35:48.679><c> the</c><00:35:48.760><c> universe</c><00:35:49.000><c> dying,</c>

00:35:49.380 --> 00:35:51.780
but<00:35:49.500><c> he</c><00:35:49.559><c> doesn't</c><00:35:49.840><c> really</c><00:35:50.239><c> die</c><00:35:50.440><c> because</c><00:35:50.679><c> he</c><00:35:50.860><c> has</c><00:35:50.940><c> an</c><00:35:51.099><c> immortal</c><00:35:51.380><c> soul.</c>

00:35:52.139 --> 00:35:54.900
So<00:35:52.300><c> his</c><00:35:52.519><c> conscious</c><00:35:52.920><c> part</c><00:35:53.199><c> continues</c><00:35:53.619><c> to</c><00:35:53.880><c> exist.</c>

00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:56.579
Similarly<00:35:55.659><c> with</c><00:35:55.940><c> the</c><00:35:56.099><c> atonement,</c>

00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:59.199
you<00:35:56.840><c> get</c><00:35:56.940><c> the</c><00:35:57.159><c> fact</c><00:35:57.340><c> straight</c><00:35:57.960><c> in</c><00:35:58.320><c> Genesis,</c>

00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:02.039
and<00:35:59.739><c> the</c><00:35:59.880><c> rest</c><00:36:00.059><c> of</c><00:36:00.280><c> the</c><00:36:00.320><c> problems</c><00:36:00.579><c> are</c><00:36:00.820><c> easily</c><00:36:01.059><c> resolved.</c>

00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:05.300
All<00:36:02.780><c> right,</c><00:36:02.900><c> now</c><00:36:03.159><c> we</c><00:36:03.380><c> come</c><00:36:03.539><c> to</c><00:36:03.800><c> a</c><00:36:04.000><c> far</c><00:36:04.260><c> more</c><00:36:04.539><c> elusive</c><00:36:04.860><c> issue</c>

00:36:05.300 --> 00:36:06.840
of<00:36:05.619><c> clean</c><00:36:05.920><c> flesh.</c>

00:36:06.900 --> 00:36:08.539
I've<00:36:07.380><c> had</c><00:36:07.460><c> a</c><00:36:07.599><c> question</c><00:36:07.900><c> pass</c><00:36:08.179><c> me</c><00:36:08.380><c> around.</c>

00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:10.599
Can<00:36:08.800><c> I</c><00:36:09.400><c> interject</c><00:36:09.800><c> it?</c>

00:36:11.260 --> 00:36:15.380
What's<00:36:11.780><c> the</c><00:36:11.880><c> relationship</c><00:36:12.519><c> with</c><00:36:13.340><c> Jesus'</c><00:36:14.260><c> circumcision?</c>

00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:18.820
Is<00:36:17.099><c> he</c><00:36:17.280><c> not</c><00:36:17.420><c> removed</c><00:36:17.760><c> from</c><00:36:17.960><c> that</c><00:36:18.119><c> legal</c><00:36:18.340><c> condemnation?</c>

00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:22.380
This<00:36:18.940><c> is</c><00:36:19.199><c> a</c><00:36:19.260><c> question</c><00:36:19.619><c> that</c><00:36:19.940><c> I</c><00:36:20.360><c> don't</c><00:36:20.639><c> have</c><00:36:20.820><c> an</c><00:36:21.000><c> answer</c><00:36:21.219><c> for.</c>

00:36:22.619 --> 00:36:24.099
I<00:36:22.679><c> considered</c><00:36:23.039><c> this</c><00:36:23.320><c> question</c><00:36:23.619><c> this</c><00:36:23.920><c> week.</c>

00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:25.840
Why<00:36:24.460><c> then</c><00:36:24.719><c> wasn't</c><00:36:25.039><c> Jesus,</c>

00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:29.099
why<00:36:26.539><c> did</c><00:36:26.679><c> he</c><00:36:26.800><c> have</c><00:36:26.960><c> the</c><00:36:27.159><c> legal</c><00:36:27.460><c> condemnation</c><00:36:28.079><c> as</c><00:36:28.300><c> a</c><00:36:28.440><c> Jew</c><00:36:28.619><c> removed</c>

00:36:29.099 --> 00:36:31.059
when<00:36:29.539><c> he</c><00:36:29.699><c> was</c><00:36:29.920><c> circumcised?</c>

00:36:31.340 --> 00:36:33.880
Perhaps<00:36:31.820><c> someone</c><00:36:32.159><c> who's</c><00:36:32.480><c> read</c><00:36:32.659><c> J</c><00:36:32.960><c>.J.</c><00:36:33.360><c> Andrews</c>

00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:36.019
may<00:36:34.159><c> have</c><00:36:34.679><c> found</c><00:36:34.820><c> an</c><00:36:35.000><c> answer</c><00:36:35.119><c> to</c><00:36:35.320><c> this</c><00:36:35.460><c> somewhere</c><00:36:35.559><c> in</c><00:36:35.699><c> his</c><00:36:35.840><c> writings.</c>

00:36:36.219 --> 00:36:37.940
Have<00:36:36.280><c> you</c><00:36:36.559><c> brought...</c>

00:36:37.940 --> 00:36:39.900
It<00:36:37.940><c> would</c><00:36:38.480><c> seem</c><00:36:38.639><c> to</c><00:36:38.739><c> me</c><00:36:38.900><c> that</c><00:36:39.079><c> what</c><00:36:39.179><c> he</c><00:36:39.380><c> thought</c><00:36:39.599><c> was</c><00:36:39.780><c> that</c>

00:36:39.900 --> 00:36:41.639
when<00:36:40.000><c> the</c><00:36:40.159><c> temple</c><00:36:40.360><c> sacrifices</c>

00:36:41.980 --> 00:36:45.099
and<00:36:42.460><c> the</c><00:36:42.599><c> temple</c><00:36:42.960><c> ordinances</c><00:36:43.599><c> virtually</c><00:36:44.179><c> finished</c>

00:36:45.099 --> 00:36:48.019
with<00:36:45.800><c> Nebuchadnezzar's</c><00:36:46.440><c> invasion</c><00:36:46.800><c> of</c><00:36:47.059><c> Jerusalem,</c>

00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:50.980
that<00:36:48.400><c> Jewry</c><00:36:48.780><c> as</c><00:36:49.139><c> such,</c><00:36:49.539><c> with</c><00:36:49.599><c> Mosaic</c><00:36:49.980><c> law</c><00:36:50.260><c> and</c><00:36:50.400><c> ordinances,</c>

00:36:51.139 --> 00:36:52.519
were<00:36:51.300><c> finished.</c>

00:36:53.019 --> 00:36:56.199
And<00:36:53.239><c> so</c><00:36:53.480><c> when</c><00:36:53.659><c> the</c><00:36:53.760><c> Shekinah</c><00:36:54.139><c> glory</c><00:36:54.440><c> departed</c><00:36:54.860><c> from</c><00:36:55.159><c> the</c><00:36:55.340><c> temple,</c>

00:36:56.260 --> 00:36:59.039
that<00:36:56.420><c> this</c><00:36:56.679><c> was</c><00:36:56.900><c> in</c><00:36:57.139><c> fact</c><00:36:57.360><c> the</c><00:36:58.079><c> end</c>

00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:02.139
of<00:36:59.599><c> this</c><00:36:59.820><c> means</c><00:37:00.019><c> of</c><00:37:00.360><c> removing</c><00:37:01.099><c> inherited</c><00:37:01.900><c> imitation</c>

00:37:02.460 --> 00:37:03.380
through<00:37:02.760><c> circumcision.</c>

00:37:03.739 --> 00:37:04.739
What<00:37:03.980><c> are</c><00:37:04.059><c> you</c><00:37:04.159><c> dragging</c><00:37:04.360><c> with</c><00:37:04.559><c> that?</c>

00:37:04.739 --> 00:37:07.019
Well,<00:37:05.539><c> I</c><00:37:05.639><c> don't</c><00:37:05.860><c> know</c><00:37:05.960><c> how</c><00:37:06.159><c> he</c><00:37:06.300><c> would</c><00:37:06.500><c> account</c><00:37:06.800><c> for</c><00:37:06.900><c> it,</c>

00:37:07.019 --> 00:37:09.440
but<00:37:07.059><c> it's</c><00:37:07.179><c> not</c><00:37:07.320><c> really</c><00:37:07.500><c> a</c><00:37:07.639><c> major</c><00:37:07.880><c> problem</c><00:37:08.260><c> in</c><00:37:08.420><c> his</c><00:37:08.559><c> thesis.</c>

00:37:09.699 --> 00:37:10.840
It<00:37:09.820><c> wouldn't</c><00:37:10.079><c> really</c><00:37:10.280><c> matter</c><00:37:10.559><c> which</c>

00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:12.880
because<00:37:11.179><c> it</c><00:37:11.260><c> would</c><00:37:11.500><c> be</c><00:37:11.619><c> viewed</c><00:37:11.780><c> typically,</c>

00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:15.539
anyway,<00:37:13.900><c> even</c><00:37:14.179><c> if</c><00:37:14.380><c> this</c><00:37:14.579><c> legal</c><00:37:14.800><c> condemnation</c>

00:37:15.539 --> 00:37:16.900
were<00:37:15.760><c> removed</c><00:37:16.139><c> at</c><00:37:16.380><c> circumcision,</c>

00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:18.559
it<00:37:17.059><c> would</c><00:37:17.260><c> still</c><00:37:17.619><c> pin</c><00:37:17.780><c> ratification</c>

00:37:18.559 --> 00:37:20.420
when<00:37:19.079><c> he</c><00:37:19.219><c> died</c><00:37:19.400><c> by</c><00:37:19.639><c> crucifixion.</c>

00:37:20.699 --> 00:37:22.619
Yeah,<00:37:20.800><c> but</c><00:37:20.980><c> he</c><00:37:21.000><c> wouldn't</c><00:37:21.619><c> then</c>

00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:25.539
abrogate<00:37:22.940><c> the</c><00:37:23.860><c> Gentile</c><00:37:24.420><c> through</c><00:37:24.619><c> baptism.</c>

00:37:25.699 --> 00:37:26.480
Oh<00:37:26.019><c> yes,</c><00:37:26.239><c> it</c><00:37:26.360><c> would.</c>

00:37:26.579 --> 00:37:27.699
For<00:37:26.800><c> J</c><00:37:26.980><c>.J.</c><00:37:27.239><c> Andrews,</c><00:37:27.380><c> it</c><00:37:27.420><c> would.</c>

00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.400
See,<00:37:28.139><c> whether</c><00:37:28.619><c> Christ</c><00:37:28.920><c> personally</c><00:37:29.380><c> had</c><00:37:29.599><c> his</c><00:37:29.840><c> condemnation</c>

00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:32.179
removed<00:37:30.699><c> at</c><00:37:30.920><c> circumcision</c>

00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:33.820
or<00:37:32.960><c> at</c><00:37:33.400><c> baptism,</c>

00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:35.619
wouldn't<00:37:34.139><c> affect</c><00:37:34.460><c> the</c><00:37:34.719><c> sacrificial</c><00:37:35.219><c> work</c>

00:37:35.619 --> 00:37:37.619
because<00:37:36.280><c> both</c><00:37:36.619><c> these</c><00:37:36.820><c> were</c><00:37:37.019><c> dependent</c><00:37:37.340><c> upon</c>

00:37:37.619 --> 00:37:39.760
his<00:37:37.880><c> sacrifice</c><00:37:38.219><c> anyway.</c>

00:37:40.739 --> 00:37:41.940
You<00:37:40.780><c> see,</c><00:37:40.940><c> the</c><00:37:41.099><c> sacrifice</c><00:37:41.500><c> that</c><00:37:41.659><c> he</c><00:37:41.760><c> made</c>

00:37:41.940 --> 00:37:44.000
by<00:37:42.260><c> dying,</c><00:37:43.460><c> his</c><00:37:43.639><c> baptism</c>

00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:45.139
didn't<00:37:44.219><c> do</c><00:37:44.360><c> anything</c><00:37:44.619><c> for</c><00:37:44.800><c> us.</c>

00:37:45.460 --> 00:37:47.360
It<00:37:45.599><c> only</c><00:37:45.699><c> did</c><00:37:45.800><c> something</c><00:37:46.059><c> for</c><00:37:46.239><c> himself.</c>

00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:49.940
His<00:37:49.340><c> circumcision,</c>

00:37:50.099 --> 00:37:51.880
if<00:37:50.380><c> the</c><00:37:50.519><c> legal</c><00:37:50.780><c> condemnation</c><00:37:51.360><c> even</c><00:37:51.539><c> were</c><00:37:51.739><c> removed</c>

00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:53.699
at<00:37:52.099><c> circumcision,</c><00:37:52.679><c> it</c><00:37:52.760><c> still</c><00:37:52.900><c> wouldn't</c><00:37:53.079><c> affect</c><00:37:53.400><c> us</c>

00:37:53.699 --> 00:37:55.800
because<00:37:54.000><c> this</c><00:37:54.219><c> was</c><00:37:54.380><c> done</c><00:37:54.480><c> for</c><00:37:54.679><c> himself,</c><00:37:55.139><c> not</c><00:37:55.260><c> for</c><00:37:55.500><c> us.</c>

00:37:56.239 --> 00:37:57.860
Yeah,<00:37:56.400><c> but</c><00:37:56.519><c> then</c><00:37:56.699><c> you</c><00:37:56.900><c> wouldn't</c><00:37:57.039><c> have</c>

00:37:57.860 --> 00:37:59.820
a<00:37:58.099><c> strong</c><00:37:58.199><c> argument</c><00:37:58.559><c> to</c><00:37:58.800><c> tie</c><00:37:58.980><c> it</c><00:37:59.159><c> in</c>

00:37:59.960 --> 00:38:01.739
to<00:38:00.400><c> the</c><00:38:00.599><c> fact</c><00:38:00.800><c> that</c><00:38:01.019><c> baptism</c><00:38:01.300><c> would</c><00:38:01.539><c> then</c>

00:38:01.739 --> 00:38:02.420
be<00:38:01.840><c> removed</c><00:38:02.039><c> after</c><00:38:02.400><c> us.</c>

00:38:02.500 --> 00:38:04.519
Oh<00:38:02.699><c> yeah,</c><00:38:02.900><c> it</c><00:38:02.900><c> would</c><00:38:03.119><c> be</c><00:38:03.260><c> just</c><00:38:03.480><c> as</c><00:38:03.639><c> strong</c><00:38:03.780><c> an</c><00:38:03.920><c> argument,</c><00:38:04.159><c> Lord,</c><00:38:04.480><c> as</c>

00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:04.960
I'll<00:38:04.699><c> see</c><00:38:04.820><c> it,</c>

00:38:04.980 --> 00:38:07.539
as<00:38:05.139><c> it</c><00:38:05.199><c> would</c><00:38:05.360><c> be</c><00:38:05.500><c> for</c><00:38:05.679><c> an</c><00:38:05.800><c> ordinary</c><00:38:06.039><c> Christadelic</c><00:38:06.599><c> position.</c>

00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:09.539
Because<00:38:08.360><c> J</c><00:38:08.559><c>.J.</c><00:38:08.840><c> Andrews</c><00:38:09.059><c> believes</c><00:38:09.300><c> that</c>

00:38:09.539 --> 00:38:11.260
baptism,<00:38:10.360><c> you</c><00:38:10.820><c> pass</c>

00:38:11.260 --> 00:38:13.360
out<00:38:11.599><c> of</c><00:38:11.840><c> Adam</c><00:38:12.139><c> into</c><00:38:12.880><c> Christ.</c>

00:38:13.820 --> 00:38:15.300
He<00:38:14.119><c> uses</c><00:38:14.239><c> that</c><00:38:14.519><c> term</c><00:38:14.800><c> in</c><00:38:14.960><c> a</c><00:38:15.099><c> different</c>

00:38:15.300 --> 00:38:17.280
sense<00:38:15.539><c> than</c><00:38:15.679><c> we</c><00:38:15.800><c> do.</c><00:38:15.920><c> He</c><00:38:16.059><c> means</c><00:38:16.420><c> almost</c><00:38:16.780><c> completely</c>

00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:19.000
out<00:38:17.480><c> of</c><00:38:17.599><c> Adam</c><00:38:17.840><c> into</c><00:38:18.099><c> Christ.</c>

00:38:19.219 --> 00:38:21.119
We<00:38:19.579><c> use</c><00:38:19.780><c> that</c><00:38:20.059><c> term</c><00:38:20.280><c> out</c><00:38:20.500><c> of</c><00:38:20.719><c> Adam</c>

00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:23.099
to<00:38:21.639><c> mean</c><00:38:21.840><c> that</c><00:38:22.119><c> we</c><00:38:22.760><c> inherit</c>

00:38:23.099 --> 00:38:25.360
mortality<00:38:23.699><c> and</c><00:38:23.940><c> so</c><00:38:24.119><c> on</c><00:38:24.239><c> from</c><00:38:24.519><c> Adam.</c>

00:38:25.659 --> 00:38:27.280
We're<00:38:26.000><c> still</c><00:38:26.219><c> in</c><00:38:26.420><c> Adam,</c><00:38:26.820><c> even</c><00:38:27.059><c> though</c>

00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:29.139
we're<00:38:27.420><c> in</c><00:38:27.659><c> Christ</c><00:38:27.960><c> Jesus.</c><00:38:28.539><c> That's</c><00:38:28.760><c> the</c><00:38:28.880><c> central</c>

00:38:29.139 --> 00:38:31.059
fellowship<00:38:29.460><c> view.</c><00:38:30.559><c> In</c><00:38:30.800><c> Adam</c>

00:38:31.059 --> 00:38:32.960
needs<00:38:31.360><c> to</c><00:38:31.500><c> be</c><00:38:31.679><c> laboring</c><00:38:31.980><c> under</c><00:38:32.199><c> this</c><00:38:32.460><c> inherited</c>

00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:35.320
sin<00:38:33.179><c> and</c><00:38:33.300><c> alienation</c><00:38:33.820><c> for</c><00:38:34.019><c> him.</c><00:38:34.400><c> If</c><00:38:34.500><c> you</c><00:38:34.539><c> leave</c><00:38:34.699><c> that</c><00:38:34.920><c> behind</c>

00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:36.880
you<00:38:35.480><c> come</c><00:38:35.599><c> into</c><00:38:35.760><c> Christ</c><00:38:36.079><c> where</c><00:38:36.280><c> you</c><00:38:36.420><c> enter</c>

00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:39.000
a<00:38:37.139><c> life</c><00:38:37.300><c> of</c><00:38:37.460><c> probation</c><00:38:37.860><c> in</c><00:38:38.139><c> his</c><00:38:38.280><c> view.</c>

00:38:39.260 --> 00:38:41.320
But<00:38:39.380><c> the</c><00:38:39.500><c> only</c><00:38:39.659><c> point</c><00:38:39.800><c> I</c><00:38:39.860><c> want</c><00:38:40.000><c> to</c><00:38:40.139><c> make</c><00:38:40.219><c> here</c><00:38:40.480><c> is</c><00:38:40.679><c> that</c>

00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:42.739
in<00:38:42.000><c> the</c><00:38:42.400><c> Jewish</c>

00:38:42.739 --> 00:38:45.739
or<00:38:43.280><c> Gentile</c><00:38:44.019><c> convert,</c><00:38:44.739><c> being</c><00:38:44.880><c> baptized</c>

00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:47.300
he<00:38:46.920><c> can</c>

00:38:47.300 --> 00:38:49.400
have<00:38:47.519><c> legal</c><00:38:47.940><c> condemnation</c><00:38:48.539><c> removed</c><00:38:48.900><c> on</c><00:38:49.099><c> only</c>

00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:51.260
one<00:38:49.739><c> basis,</c><00:38:50.880><c> and</c><00:38:51.159><c> that</c>

00:38:51.260 --> 00:38:53.320
is<00:38:51.420><c> on</c><00:38:51.579><c> the</c><00:38:51.719><c> basis</c><00:38:52.159><c> of</c><00:38:52.460><c> the</c><00:38:52.679><c> sacrifice</c><00:38:53.059><c> of</c>

00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:54.719
Christ<00:38:53.539><c> when</c><00:38:53.679><c> he</c><00:38:53.880><c> died.</c>

00:38:55.679 --> 00:38:56.659
So<00:38:56.079><c> in</c><00:38:56.480><c> doing</c>

00:38:56.659 --> 00:38:58.500
the<00:38:56.920><c> sacrifice</c><00:38:57.300><c> of</c><00:38:57.519><c> Christ,</c><00:38:58.019><c> its</c><00:38:58.139><c> validity</c>

00:38:58.500 --> 00:39:00.340
relates<00:38:59.179><c> to</c><00:38:59.420><c> baptism</c><00:38:59.679><c> the</c><00:39:00.019><c> same</c><00:39:00.139><c> way</c>

00:39:00.340 --> 00:39:02.800
with<00:39:00.500><c> the</c><00:39:00.719><c> orthodoxy</c><00:39:01.340><c> as</c><00:39:01.559><c> far</c><00:39:01.679><c> as</c><00:39:01.800><c> I</c><00:39:01.880><c> can</c><00:39:02.059><c> see.</c>

00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:04.619
And<00:39:03.480><c> the</c><00:39:03.619><c> bar</c><00:39:03.800><c> is</c><00:39:03.980><c> quite</c><00:39:04.019><c> a</c><00:39:04.139><c> certain</c><00:39:04.300><c> position.</c>

00:39:04.659 --> 00:39:06.519
I'm<00:39:04.800><c> not</c><00:39:05.039><c> sure</c><00:39:05.219><c> where</c><00:39:05.420><c> that</c><00:39:05.539><c> fits</c><00:39:05.719><c> in.</c><00:39:05.980><c> I</c><00:39:06.019><c> might</c><00:39:06.280><c> find</c>

00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:08.099
out<00:39:06.719><c> with</c><00:39:06.920><c> further</c><00:39:07.079><c> reading.</c>

00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:09.400
A<00:39:08.639><c> column.</c>

00:39:10.380 --> 00:39:12.280
Did<00:39:10.539><c> he</c><00:39:10.719><c> have</c><00:39:10.920><c> any</c><00:39:11.219><c> specific</c><00:39:11.739><c> passages</c>

00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:14.400
that<00:39:12.639><c> he</c><00:39:12.900><c> used</c><00:39:13.199><c> to</c><00:39:13.599><c> support</c><00:39:13.920><c> his</c><00:39:14.179><c> view</c>

00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:16.599
of<00:39:14.579><c> Adamic</c><00:39:15.099><c> condemnation?</c><00:39:15.800><c> Yes,</c><00:39:16.079><c> he</c><00:39:16.280><c> did.</c>

00:39:16.659 --> 00:39:18.480
He<00:39:16.800><c> had</c><00:39:17.019><c> quite</c><00:39:17.239><c> a</c><00:39:17.360><c> number</c><00:39:17.599><c> of</c><00:39:17.699><c> times</c><00:39:17.900><c> his</c><00:39:18.159><c> column.</c>

00:39:18.860 --> 00:39:20.380
But<00:39:19.000><c> I</c><00:39:19.119><c> want</c><00:39:19.219><c> to</c><00:39:19.340><c> look</c><00:39:19.440><c> at</c><00:39:19.480><c> these</c><00:39:19.639><c> now.</c><00:39:19.960><c> I'll</c><00:39:20.079><c> look</c><00:39:20.139><c> at</c><00:39:20.260><c> those</c>

00:39:20.380 --> 00:39:22.559
in<00:39:20.539><c> my</c><00:39:20.739><c> second</c><00:39:20.960><c> address</c><00:39:21.280><c> where</c><00:39:21.460><c> we</c><00:39:21.659><c> come</c><00:39:21.820><c> to</c><00:39:22.119><c> inherit</c>

00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:24.360
the<00:39:22.820><c> alienation.</c>

00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:26.619
The<00:39:24.860><c> alienation</c><00:39:25.260><c> is</c><00:39:25.500><c> inherited</c><00:39:25.940><c> at</c><00:39:26.139><c> the</c><00:39:26.320><c> time</c><00:39:26.420><c> of</c>

00:39:26.619 --> 00:39:28.880
the<00:39:26.719><c> second</c><00:39:26.960><c> address.</c><00:39:27.980><c> So</c><00:39:28.239><c> I'll</c><00:39:28.360><c> be</c><00:39:28.420><c> back</c>

00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:29.960
in<00:39:29.019><c> a</c><00:39:29.199><c> little</c><00:39:29.239><c> bit.</c>

00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:32.820
This<00:39:30.559><c> issue</c><00:39:31.019><c> here</c><00:39:31.360><c> about</c><00:39:31.619><c> legal</c><00:39:32.019><c> condemnation</c>

00:39:32.820 --> 00:39:35.059
removed<00:39:33.400><c> when</c><00:39:33.840><c> circumcised</c>

00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:37.159
what<00:39:35.500><c> did</c><00:39:35.639><c> the</c><00:39:35.860><c> Apostle</c><00:39:36.280><c> Paul</c><00:39:36.659><c> mean</c>

00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:38.559
when<00:39:37.519><c> he</c><00:39:37.679><c> wrote</c><00:39:37.900><c> to</c><00:39:38.159><c> the</c><00:39:38.300><c> Jews</c>

00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:40.739
at<00:39:38.880><c> Galatia?</c><00:39:40.079><c> In</c><00:39:40.300><c> relation</c><00:39:40.539><c> to</c>

00:39:40.739 --> 00:39:42.940
chapter<00:39:41.059><c> 5,</c><00:39:41.880><c> verse</c><00:39:42.119><c> 2,</c><00:39:42.539><c> when</c><00:39:42.679><c> he</c>

00:39:42.940 --> 00:39:44.420
said,<00:39:43.599><c> quote,</c>

00:39:44.500 --> 00:39:46.719
Christ<00:39:44.900><c> has</c><00:39:45.199><c> become</c><00:39:45.619><c> no</c><00:39:46.039><c> effect</c><00:39:46.380><c> on</c><00:39:46.559><c> the</c>

00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:48.760
Jews,<00:39:46.940><c> whosoever</c><00:39:47.579><c> is</c><00:39:47.820><c> new</c><00:39:47.920><c> or</c><00:39:48.139><c> justified</c>

00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:49.559
at<00:39:48.980><c> all.</c>

00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:52.059
I<00:39:49.559><c> don't</c><00:39:49.719><c> remember</c><00:39:50.840><c> the</c><00:39:50.980><c> question</c><00:39:51.219><c> yet.</c>

00:40:01.579 --> 00:40:03.659
In<00:40:01.719><c> relation</c><00:40:01.980><c> to</c><00:40:02.199><c> chapter</c><00:40:02.380><c> 5,</c>

00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:06.119
verse<00:40:04.159><c> 2.</c>

00:40:07.579 --> 00:40:09.320
Behold,<00:40:08.179><c> I</c><00:40:08.539><c> call</c><00:40:08.840><c> upon</c><00:40:09.039><c> you,</c>

00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:11.440
that<00:40:09.539><c> if</c><00:40:09.820><c> you</c><00:40:10.039><c> be</c><00:40:10.300><c> circumcised,</c><00:40:11.119><c> Christ</c>

00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:13.159
shall<00:40:11.780><c> profit</c><00:40:12.139><c> you</c><00:40:12.460><c> not.</c>

00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:15.340
A<00:40:13.599><c> friend</c><00:40:13.820><c> of</c><00:40:14.000><c> the</c><00:40:14.179><c> Jews</c><00:40:14.559><c> said,</c>

00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:16.820
if<00:40:15.519><c> you're</c><00:40:15.739><c> circumcised,</c><00:40:16.480><c> Christ</c>

00:40:16.820 --> 00:40:19.679
will<00:40:17.079><c> be</c><00:40:17.219><c> a</c><00:40:17.280><c> real</c><00:40:17.599><c> profit</c><00:40:17.940><c> to</c><00:40:18.159><c> you.</c>

00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:21.079
Well,<00:40:20.420><c> this</c><00:40:20.599><c> is</c><00:40:20.780><c> looking</c><00:40:20.900><c> at</c>

00:40:21.079 --> 00:40:23.219
two<00:40:21.360><c> different</c><00:40:21.739><c> dispensations.</c>

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We're<00:40:24.679><c> looking</c><00:40:25.000><c> at</c>

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circumcision<00:40:25.980><c> back</c><00:40:26.340><c> here</c><00:40:26.619><c> when</c>

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God<00:40:27.139><c> gave</c><00:40:27.519><c> the</c><00:40:27.760><c> token</c><00:40:28.000><c> of</c><00:40:28.219><c> the</c><00:40:28.400><c> Abrahamic</c>

00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:30.800
covenant.<00:40:30.400><c> The</c><00:40:30.500><c> token</c>

00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:32.679
of<00:40:31.019><c> the</c><00:40:31.219><c> Abrahamic</c><00:40:31.780><c> covenant</c><00:40:32.059><c> with</c><00:40:32.280><c> was</c>

00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:34.920
you<00:40:32.980><c> shall</c><00:40:33.300><c> circumcise</c><00:40:34.559><c> the</c>

00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:37.460
child<00:40:35.179><c> that</c><00:40:35.340><c> is</c><00:40:35.500><c> born</c><00:40:35.619><c> to</c><00:40:35.760><c> your</c><00:40:35.940><c> house</c><00:40:36.119><c> on</c><00:40:36.340><c> the</c><00:40:36.440><c> eighth</c><00:40:36.639><c> day.</c>

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So<00:40:38.739><c> circumcision</c>

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was<00:40:39.860><c> a</c><00:40:40.159><c> symbol</c>

00:40:40.619 --> 00:40:43.380
of<00:40:40.980><c> the</c><00:40:41.300><c> cutting</c><00:40:41.599><c> off</c><00:40:41.960><c> of</c><00:40:42.239><c> the</c><00:40:42.519><c> flesh.</c>

00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:44.840
And<00:40:43.940><c> the</c><00:40:44.119><c> flesh</c><00:40:44.360><c> in</c><00:40:44.519><c> Scripture</c>

00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:47.559
is<00:40:45.039><c> a</c><00:40:45.079><c> term</c><00:40:45.380><c> which</c><00:40:45.659><c> is</c><00:40:45.940><c> synonymous</c><00:40:46.300><c> with</c><00:40:46.619><c> the</c><00:40:46.900><c> rebelliousness</c>

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which<00:40:47.800><c> is</c><00:40:48.059><c> innate</c>

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within<00:40:49.019><c> our</c><00:40:49.219><c> human</c><00:40:49.480><c> constitution.</c>

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When<00:40:51.739><c> Christ</c><00:40:52.199><c> infected</c>

00:40:52.780 --> 00:40:54.880
his<00:40:53.139><c> sacrificial</c><00:40:53.699><c> work,</c>

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then<00:40:55.679><c> one</c><00:40:56.119><c> typically</c>

00:40:57.039 --> 00:40:58.599
renounced<00:40:57.860><c> the</c><00:40:58.300><c> flesh,</c>

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not<00:40:59.059><c> by</c><00:40:59.340><c> being</c><00:40:59.539><c> circumcised,</c><00:41:00.139><c> and</c><00:41:00.219><c> that</c><00:41:00.400><c> prompted</c>

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nothing,<00:41:01.460><c> said</c><00:41:01.500><c> the</c><00:41:01.679><c> Apostle</c><00:41:02.079><c> Paul.</c>

00:41:02.940 --> 00:41:04.860
Rather,<00:41:03.420><c> that</c><00:41:03.659><c> was</c><00:41:03.880><c> indicated</c><00:41:04.380><c> in</c><00:41:04.699><c> the</c>

00:41:04.860 --> 00:41:07.139
baptism<00:41:05.360><c> that</c><00:41:05.880><c> took</c><00:41:06.079><c> place.</c>

00:41:07.380 --> 00:41:08.880
Paul<00:41:07.639><c> pointed</c><00:41:07.900><c> out</c><00:41:08.400><c> very</c>

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powerfully,<00:41:09.360><c> and</c><00:41:09.559><c> probably</c><00:41:09.760><c> the</c><00:41:10.079><c> counterpart</c>

00:41:10.539 --> 00:41:12.440
of<00:41:10.800><c> articulations</c><00:41:11.340><c> in</c><00:41:11.599><c> Romans,</c>

00:41:13.340 --> 00:41:14.659
where<00:41:14.000><c> he</c>

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argued<00:41:15.139><c> that</c><00:41:15.400><c> this</c><00:41:15.639><c> was</c><00:41:15.860><c> done</c>

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virtually<00:41:16.780><c> in</c><00:41:17.280><c> one's</c>

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baptism.

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Notice<00:41:22.400><c> the</c><00:41:22.599><c> language</c><00:41:23.460><c> of</c><00:41:23.800><c> Romans</c>

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chapter<00:41:25.280><c> 6.</c>

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He<00:41:28.840><c> says,</c>

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verse<00:41:30.619><c> 12,</c>

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Let<00:41:32.920><c> not</c><00:41:33.239><c> sin</c><00:41:33.480><c> therefore</c><00:41:33.940><c> reign</c>

00:41:34.219 --> 00:41:35.980
in<00:41:34.320><c> your</c><00:41:34.519><c> mortal</c><00:41:34.739><c> bodies,</c><00:41:35.320><c> to</c><00:41:35.420><c> make</c><00:41:35.579><c> you</c><00:41:35.800><c> obey</c>

00:41:35.980 --> 00:41:38.219
their<00:41:36.199><c> passions.</c><00:41:37.760><c> Do</c><00:41:37.940><c> not</c>

00:41:38.219 --> 00:41:40.260
yield<00:41:38.460><c> your</c><00:41:38.699><c> members</c><00:41:39.019><c> to</c><00:41:39.340><c> sin</c><00:41:39.519><c> as</c><00:41:39.880><c> instruments</c>

00:41:40.260 --> 00:41:42.320
of<00:41:40.380><c> wickedness,</c><00:41:41.079><c> but</c><00:41:41.179><c> yield</c><00:41:41.400><c> yourselves</c><00:41:41.860><c> to</c><00:41:42.059><c> God</c>

00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:44.420
as<00:41:42.480><c> men</c><00:41:42.699><c> who</c><00:41:42.880><c> have</c><00:41:43.019><c> been</c><00:41:43.260><c> brought</c><00:41:43.440><c> from</c><00:41:43.679><c> death</c><00:41:43.920><c> to</c><00:41:44.119><c> life,</c>

00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:46.300
and<00:41:44.639><c> your</c><00:41:44.760><c> members</c><00:41:45.019><c> to</c><00:41:45.219><c> God</c><00:41:45.559><c> as</c><00:41:45.760><c> instruments</c><00:41:46.059><c> of</c>

00:41:46.300 --> 00:41:47.219
righteousness.

00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:50.199
The<00:41:47.980><c> Apostle</c><00:41:48.500><c> Paul</c><00:41:48.639><c> in</c><00:41:48.840><c> chapter</c><00:41:49.079><c> 6</c><00:41:49.380><c> is</c><00:41:49.599><c> speaking</c><00:41:49.880><c> of</c>

00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:52.760
baptism,<00:41:51.280><c> verse</c><00:41:51.460><c> 6.</c>

00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:54.380
We<00:41:52.960><c> know</c><00:41:53.280><c> that</c><00:41:53.559><c> our</c><00:41:53.820><c> old</c><00:41:54.079><c> self</c>

00:41:54.380 --> 00:41:56.420
was<00:41:54.760><c> crucified</c><00:41:55.420><c> with</c><00:41:55.739><c> him,</c>

00:41:56.739 --> 00:41:58.239
so<00:41:57.000><c> that</c><00:41:57.219><c> the</c><00:41:57.480><c> sinful</c><00:41:57.800><c> body</c>

00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:00.139
might<00:41:58.500><c> be</c><00:41:58.920><c> destroyed,</c><00:41:59.820><c> that</c>

00:42:00.139 --> 00:42:02.139
we<00:42:00.440><c> might</c><00:42:00.800><c> no</c><00:42:01.159><c> longer</c><00:42:01.480><c> be</c><00:42:01.800><c> enslaved</c>

00:42:02.139 --> 00:42:03.280
to<00:42:02.480><c> sin.</c>

00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:05.980
So<00:42:04.440><c> we</c><00:42:04.539><c> can</c><00:42:04.780><c> speak</c><00:42:05.000><c> of</c><00:42:05.280><c> circumcision</c>

00:42:05.980 --> 00:42:07.619
in<00:42:06.340><c> chapter</c><00:42:06.699><c> 2</c><00:42:06.980><c> of</c><00:42:07.199><c> Romans,</c>

00:42:07.619 --> 00:42:09.019
in<00:42:08.199><c> these</c><00:42:08.440><c> words,</c>

00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:11.119
verse<00:42:09.659><c> 28.</c>

00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:14.679
Romans<00:42:13.780><c> 2,</c><00:42:14.079><c> 28.</c>

00:42:14.940 --> 00:42:17.199
For<00:42:14.940><c> he</c><00:42:15.340><c> is</c><00:42:15.579><c> not</c><00:42:15.860><c> a</c><00:42:16.139><c> Jew</c><00:42:16.420><c> who</c><00:42:16.960><c> is</c>

00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:19.400
won<00:42:17.360><c> outwardly,</c><00:42:19.000><c> nor</c><00:42:19.159><c> is</c>

00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:21.420
true<00:42:19.639><c> circumcision</c><00:42:20.360><c> something</c><00:42:20.840><c> external</c>

00:42:21.420 --> 00:42:22.619
and<00:42:21.719><c> physical.</c>

00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:25.500
He<00:42:23.280><c> is</c><00:42:23.519><c> a</c><00:42:23.739><c> Jew</c><00:42:23.940><c> who</c><00:42:24.199><c> is</c><00:42:24.380><c> won</c><00:42:24.539><c> inwardly,</c>

00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:27.380
and<00:42:25.980><c> real</c><00:42:26.300><c> circumcision</c><00:42:26.860><c> is</c><00:42:27.099><c> a</c><00:42:27.239><c> matter</c>

00:42:27.380 --> 00:42:29.940
of<00:42:27.559><c> the</c><00:42:27.780><c> heart,</c><00:42:28.139><c> spiritual,</c><00:42:28.780><c> and</c><00:42:28.900><c> not</c><00:42:29.139><c> literal.</c>

00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:31.380
His<00:42:30.320><c> praise</c><00:42:30.500><c> is</c><00:42:30.719><c> not</c><00:42:30.940><c> from</c><00:42:31.219><c> men,</c>

00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:33.539
but<00:42:31.780><c> God,</c><00:42:32.300><c> we</c><00:42:32.420><c> can</c><00:42:32.579><c> apply</c><00:42:32.880><c> a</c><00:42:33.239><c> standard</c><00:42:33.239><c> version.</c>

00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:35.420
In<00:42:34.099><c> other</c><00:42:34.239><c> words,</c><00:42:34.579><c> the</c><00:42:34.639><c> point</c><00:42:34.800><c> is</c><00:42:35.019><c> simply,</c>

00:42:35.420 --> 00:42:37.039
that<00:42:35.980><c> a</c><00:42:36.099><c> little</c><00:42:36.260><c> circumcision</c>

00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:39.440
was<00:42:37.960><c> cutting</c><00:42:38.340><c> off</c><00:42:38.820><c> the</c><00:42:39.099><c> flesh</c>

00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:41.679
and<00:42:40.539><c> inducted</c><00:42:41.059><c> a</c><00:42:41.280><c> Jew</c>

00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:43.820
into<00:42:42.260><c> the</c><00:42:42.559><c> Abrahamic</c><00:42:43.179><c> covenant</c>

00:42:43.820 --> 00:42:45.719
given<00:42:44.400><c> by</c><00:42:44.719><c> God</c><00:42:45.019><c> to</c>

00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:47.420
Abraham<00:42:46.199><c> in</c><00:42:46.460><c> Genesis,</c>

00:42:47.659 --> 00:42:50.199
and<00:42:47.920><c> later</c><00:42:48.199><c> to</c><00:42:48.480><c> the</c><00:42:48.880><c> nation</c><00:42:49.239><c> of</c><00:42:49.460><c> Israel</c>

00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:51.739
when<00:42:50.780><c> led</c><00:42:50.980><c> by</c><00:42:51.219><c> Moses</c>

00:42:51.739 --> 00:42:54.380
out<00:42:52.019><c> of</c><00:42:52.199><c> Egypt</c><00:42:52.519><c> into</c><00:42:52.719><c> the</c><00:42:52.960><c> promised</c><00:42:53.179><c> land.</c>

00:42:54.500 --> 00:42:55.579
Circumcision<00:42:55.099><c> had</c><00:42:55.320><c> its</c>

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counterpart,<00:42:56.159><c> the</c><00:42:56.280><c> Apostle</c><00:42:56.719><c> Paul</c><00:42:56.980><c> said,</c>

00:42:57.260 --> 00:42:59.360
not<00:42:57.519><c> in</c><00:42:57.739><c> an</c><00:42:58.000><c> external</c><00:42:58.340><c> act,</c>

00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:01.719
but<00:42:59.699><c> in</c><00:42:59.820><c> the</c><00:43:00.019><c> cutting</c><00:43:00.159><c> off</c><00:43:00.440><c> of</c><00:43:00.579><c> the</c><00:43:00.760><c> works</c><00:43:00.920><c> of</c><00:43:01.159><c> the</c><00:43:01.320><c> flesh</c>

00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:03.719
that<00:43:02.480><c> was</c><00:43:02.739><c> typically</c><00:43:03.119><c> performed</c>

00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:04.960
in<00:43:04.000><c> baptism.</c>

00:43:05.539 --> 00:43:07.460
Now<00:43:05.760><c> we</c><00:43:05.820><c> will</c><00:43:06.059><c> see</c><00:43:06.219><c> as</c><00:43:06.400><c> we</c><00:43:06.599><c> come</c><00:43:06.719><c> to</c><00:43:07.059><c> consider</c>

00:43:07.460 --> 00:43:10.400
crucifixion<00:43:08.420><c> what</c><00:43:08.840><c> this</c><00:43:09.099><c> meant</c><00:43:09.260><c> for</c><00:43:09.480><c> Jesus.</c>

00:43:10.860 --> 00:43:12.320
We'll<00:43:11.119><c> see</c><00:43:11.320><c> its</c><00:43:11.559><c> relationship</c>

00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:14.059
in<00:43:13.599><c> baptism</c>

00:43:14.059 --> 00:43:15.699
because<00:43:14.519><c> a</c><00:43:14.820><c> person</c><00:43:15.099><c> performs</c>

00:43:15.699 --> 00:43:18.559
ritually<00:43:16.460><c> what</c><00:43:16.980><c> Jesus</c><00:43:17.400><c> did</c><00:43:17.639><c> literally.</c>

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In<00:43:19.219><c> baptism,</c>

00:43:19.820 --> 00:43:21.820
Paul<00:43:20.079><c> says</c><00:43:20.420><c> in</c><00:43:20.599><c> the</c><00:43:20.780><c> passage</c><00:43:21.039><c> we</c><00:43:21.300><c> have</c><00:43:21.480><c> read</c>

00:43:21.820 --> 00:43:24.019
that<00:43:22.300><c> a</c><00:43:22.460><c> person</c><00:43:22.780><c> died</c><00:43:23.119><c> through</c><00:43:23.360><c> his</c><00:43:23.480><c> own</c><00:43:23.719><c> self,</c>

00:43:24.179 --> 00:43:25.880
his<00:43:24.280><c> own</c><00:43:24.539><c> walk,</c><00:43:24.840><c> his</c><00:43:25.019><c> own</c><00:43:25.139><c> way</c><00:43:25.320><c> of</c><00:43:25.519><c> life,</c>

00:43:26.340 --> 00:43:28.840
and<00:43:26.420><c> lives</c><00:43:26.659><c> to</c><00:43:26.900><c> the</c><00:43:27.039><c> new</c><00:43:27.199><c> life</c><00:43:27.420><c> in</c><00:43:27.659><c> Christ</c><00:43:27.880><c> Jesus.</c>

00:43:29.099 --> 00:43:29.980
And<00:43:29.420><c> this</c>

00:43:29.980 --> 00:43:31.860
would<00:43:30.440><c> be</c><00:43:30.860><c> the</c>

00:43:31.860 --> 00:43:34.639
archetype<00:43:32.739><c> of</c><00:43:32.880><c> what</c><00:43:32.980><c> was</c><00:43:33.199><c> indicated</c><00:43:33.639><c> by</c><00:43:34.039><c> circumcision</c>

00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:35.880
for<00:43:34.940><c> the</c><00:43:35.099><c> Jew.</c>

00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:37.340
Does<00:43:36.219><c> that</c><00:43:36.320><c> answer</c><00:43:36.440><c> your</c><00:43:36.579><c> question?</c>

00:43:38.340 --> 00:43:40.199
Raise<00:43:38.760><c> another</c><00:43:39.119><c> problem</c>

00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:41.699
about<00:43:40.599><c> Abraham</c>

00:43:41.860 --> 00:43:43.460
in<00:43:42.400><c> Genesis.</c>

00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:45.579
He<00:43:43.900><c> was</c><00:43:44.139><c> made</c><00:43:44.539><c> righteous</c>

00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:47.239
and<00:43:46.019><c> what</c><00:43:46.199><c> was</c><00:43:46.460><c> he</c><00:43:46.679><c> circumcised?</c>

00:43:47.420 --> 00:43:50.019
Before<00:43:47.659><c> he</c><00:43:47.820><c> was</c><00:43:47.980><c> made</c><00:43:48.199><c> righteous</c><00:43:48.579><c> or</c><00:43:48.860><c> after</c><00:43:49.260><c> he</c><00:43:49.460><c> was</c><00:43:49.619><c> made</c><00:43:49.780><c> righteous?</c>

00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:51.980
Well,<00:43:50.739><c> Paul</c><00:43:51.280><c> indicates</c>

00:43:51.980 --> 00:43:54.340
this<00:43:52.559><c> in</c><00:43:53.699><c> Galatians</c>

00:43:54.340 --> 00:43:56.119
and<00:43:55.420><c> in</c><00:43:55.679><c> Romans,</c>

00:43:56.460 --> 00:43:58.320
but<00:43:56.539><c> particularly</c><00:43:57.199><c> in</c><00:43:57.639><c> Romans</c>

00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:00.000
where<00:43:59.519><c> in</c><00:43:59.719><c> chapter</c>

00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:02.139
4,<00:44:00.519><c> Paul</c><00:44:01.000><c> takes</c><00:44:01.619><c> this</c><00:44:01.900><c> issue</c>

00:44:02.139 --> 00:44:03.679
up<00:44:02.380><c> with</c><00:44:02.659><c> the</c><00:44:02.840><c> Jews.</c>

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What<00:44:05.699><c> then</c><00:44:05.960><c> shall</c><00:44:06.159><c> we</c><00:44:06.320><c> say</c>

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about<00:44:06.820><c> Abraham,</c><00:44:07.719><c> our</c>

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forefather,<00:44:08.579><c> according</c><00:44:08.800><c> to</c><00:44:09.000><c> the</c><00:44:09.260><c> flesh?</c>

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Paul<00:44:09.880><c> argues.</c><00:44:11.340><c> You</c><00:44:11.480><c> see,</c>

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par<00:44:15.760><c> excellence</c><00:44:16.219><c> because</c><00:44:16.739><c> he</c><00:44:17.219><c> is</c><00:44:17.460><c> the</c><00:44:17.659><c> father</c>

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of<00:44:18.119><c> the</c><00:44:18.280><c> Hebrew</c><00:44:18.440><c> people.</c>

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about,<00:44:24.920><c> but</c><00:44:25.179><c> not</c><00:44:25.460><c> before</c><00:44:25.739><c> God.</c>

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For<00:44:27.179><c> what</c><00:44:27.400><c> does</c><00:44:27.579><c> Scripture</c>

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trusts<00:44:40.400><c> him,</c><00:44:41.179><c> who</c><00:44:41.300><c> justifies</c><00:44:41.880><c> him</c>

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as<00:44:44.199><c> righteousness.</c>

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And<00:44:46.139><c> down</c><00:44:46.360><c> in</c><00:44:46.420><c> verse</c><00:44:46.599><c> 9,</c>

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upon<00:44:54.420><c> the</c><00:44:54.699><c> uncircumcised?</c>

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We<00:44:56.420><c> say</c><00:44:56.780><c> that</c><00:44:57.059><c> faith</c><00:44:57.320><c> was</c><00:44:57.599><c> reckoned</c>

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to<00:44:58.099><c> Abraham</c><00:44:58.599><c> as</c><00:44:59.079><c> righteousness.</c>

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Was<00:45:02.460><c> it</c><00:45:02.659><c> before</c><00:45:02.980><c> or</c><00:45:03.239><c> after</c><00:45:03.539><c> he</c><00:45:03.739><c> had</c><00:45:03.880><c> been</c>

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circumcised?<00:45:04.760><c> It</c><00:45:05.000><c> was</c><00:45:05.239><c> not</c><00:45:05.519><c> after,</c>

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but<00:45:06.460><c> before</c><00:45:07.119><c> he</c><00:45:07.320><c> was</c><00:45:07.579><c> circumcised.</c>

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He<00:45:09.320><c> received</c><00:45:09.800><c> circumcision</c>

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as<00:45:10.840><c> a</c><00:45:10.980><c> sign</c><00:45:11.219><c> or</c><00:45:11.500><c> seal</c>

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uncircumcised.

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According<00:45:19.719><c> to</c><00:45:19.880><c> that</c>

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he<00:45:22.679><c> was</c><00:45:23.019><c> not</c><00:45:23.320><c> this</c>

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legal<00:45:24.079><c> condemnation</c><00:45:24.940><c> term</c><00:45:25.239><c> that</c>

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you're<00:45:25.639><c> using</c><00:45:26.000><c> here.</c>

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Perhaps<00:45:28.019><c> you</c><00:45:28.179><c> don't</c><00:45:28.340><c> understand</c><00:45:28.760><c> the</c><00:45:29.019><c> point.</c>

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This...

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Okay,<00:45:32.019><c> I'll</c><00:45:33.099><c> just</c><00:45:33.239><c> clarify</c>

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challenged<00:45:38.300><c> Christadelphian</c><00:45:38.960><c> teaching.</c>

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This<00:45:39.719><c> is</c><00:45:39.860><c> not</c><00:45:39.980><c> a</c><00:45:40.139><c> view</c><00:45:40.239><c> that</c><00:45:40.719><c> this</c><00:45:40.960><c> community</c><00:45:41.280><c> of</c>

00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:43.159
Christadelphians<00:45:42.059><c> here</c><00:45:42.280><c> holds.</c>

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So,<00:45:44.599><c> we're</c><00:45:45.280><c> considering</c>

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teaching<00:45:48.219><c> in</c><00:45:48.400><c> this</c><00:45:48.659><c> chart.</c>

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This<00:45:49.639><c> is</c><00:45:49.760><c> not</c><00:45:49.860><c> the</c><00:45:50.019><c> teaching</c><00:45:50.199><c> of</c><00:45:50.360><c> the</c><00:45:50.500><c> Christadelphians</c><00:45:51.079><c> in</c>

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this<00:45:51.420><c> community.</c>

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You<00:45:51.820><c> see</c><00:45:52.440><c> the</c><00:45:52.619><c> point?</c>

00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:55.440
The<00:45:53.860><c> Christadelphians</c><00:45:54.480><c> here,</c><00:45:54.619><c> as</c><00:45:54.760><c> I</c><00:45:54.900><c> said</c><00:45:55.019><c> before,</c>

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do<00:45:55.760><c> not</c><00:45:55.920><c> accept</c><00:45:56.460><c> legal</c><00:45:56.960><c> condemnation.</c>

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Nor<00:45:58.780><c> do</c><00:45:58.960><c> we</c><00:45:59.159><c> accept</c><00:45:59.440><c> this</c>

00:45:59.780 --> 00:46:02.440
concept<00:46:00.199><c> that</c><00:46:00.599><c> terminates</c><00:46:01.079><c> in</c><00:46:01.280><c> this</c><00:46:01.420><c> conclusion.</c>

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So,<00:46:02.880><c> I</c><00:46:02.960><c> want</c><00:46:03.019><c> to</c><00:46:03.019><c> make</c><00:46:03.139><c> that</c><00:46:03.460><c> clear.</c>

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Why<00:46:04.500><c> are</c><00:46:04.679><c> you</c><00:46:04.840><c> taking</c><00:46:05.059><c> up</c><00:46:05.280><c> so</c><00:46:05.460><c> much</c><00:46:05.739><c> time</c>

00:46:06.059 --> 00:46:08.059
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Well,<00:46:08.420><c> because</c><00:46:08.840><c> in</c><00:46:09.079><c> our</c><00:46:09.239><c> Bible</c><00:46:09.619><c> class</c>

00:46:09.880 --> 00:46:12.539
series,<00:46:10.760><c> over</c><00:46:11.059><c> the</c><00:46:11.199><c> next</c><00:46:11.400><c> three</c><00:46:11.659><c> weeks,</c>

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we<00:46:12.780><c> are</c><00:46:12.980><c> considering</c><00:46:13.420><c> a</c><00:46:13.739><c> problem</c>

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We<00:46:20.900><c> could</c><00:46:21.179><c> perhaps</c><00:46:21.639><c> take</c>

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message<00:46:34.260><c> in</c><00:46:35.239><c> contrast</c>

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when<00:46:46.039><c> we</c><00:46:46.320><c> consider</c><00:46:46.639><c> clean</c><00:46:46.940><c> flesh</c>

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examine<00:46:52.119><c> by</c><00:46:52.320><c> the</c><00:46:52.500><c> scripture.</c>

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But<00:46:53.739><c> that's</c><00:46:53.920><c> going</c><00:46:54.039><c> to</c><00:46:54.039><c> come</c><00:46:54.139><c> in</c><00:46:54.239><c> a</c><00:46:54.300><c> few</c><00:46:54.460><c> minutes</c><00:46:54.699><c> if</c><00:46:54.900><c> you</c><00:46:55.039><c> can</c>

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just<00:46:55.900><c> hold</c><00:46:56.079><c> on.</c><00:46:57.420><c> Okay?</c>

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Alright,<00:47:02.880><c> to</c><00:47:02.980><c> mention</c><00:47:03.280><c> that</c><00:47:03.500><c> there</c>

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and<00:47:07.440><c> that</c>

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the<00:47:09.440><c> challenges</c>

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have<00:47:11.760><c> come</c><00:47:12.039><c> from,</c>

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or<00:47:16.539><c> anterism,</c>

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clean<00:47:19.920><c> flesh.</c>

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Now,<00:47:23.400><c> clean</c><00:47:23.599><c> flesh</c>

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and<00:47:29.280><c> in</c><00:47:29.539><c> some</c>

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respects<00:47:30.159><c> it's</c><00:47:30.599><c> similar</c><00:47:30.820><c> to</c><00:47:31.119><c> inherent</c>

00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:33.519
alienation,<00:47:32.199><c> but</c><00:47:32.400><c> in</c><00:47:32.539><c> other</c><00:47:32.719><c> ways</c><00:47:33.000><c> it's</c><00:47:33.300><c> quite</c>

00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:34.659
different.

00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:41.619
In<00:47:40.340><c> this</c><00:47:40.639><c> view,</c><00:47:41.420><c> Adam</c>

00:47:41.619 --> 00:47:43.780
is<00:47:41.900><c> sometimes</c><00:47:42.559><c> considered</c><00:47:43.219><c> to</c>

00:47:43.780 --> 00:47:45.800
have<00:47:43.980><c> been</c><00:47:44.219><c> a</c><00:47:44.579><c> corruptible</c><00:47:45.099><c> creature</c>

00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:48.139
who<00:47:47.119><c> was</c><00:47:47.420><c> sustained</c>

00:47:48.139 --> 00:47:50.079
the<00:47:48.880><c> decayed</c><00:47:49.679><c> processes</c>

00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:52.260
of<00:47:50.460><c> his</c><00:47:50.719><c> nature</c><00:47:51.099><c> being</c><00:47:51.440><c> arrested</c>

00:47:52.260 --> 00:47:54.860
by<00:47:52.940><c> the</c><00:47:53.159><c> fruit</c><00:47:53.300><c> of</c><00:47:53.420><c> the</c><00:47:53.599><c> tree</c><00:47:53.739><c> of</c><00:47:54.000><c> life.</c>

00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:55.880
I<00:47:55.440><c> think</c><00:47:55.559><c> you</c><00:47:55.739><c> should</c>

00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:58.079
realize<00:47:56.280><c> that</c><00:47:56.460><c> when</c><00:47:56.559><c> we</c><00:47:56.780><c> consider</c><00:47:57.239><c> clean</c><00:47:57.639><c> flesh</c>

00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:00.019
it's<00:47:59.320><c> difficult</c><00:47:59.679><c> to</c>

00:48:00.019 --> 00:48:01.599
find<00:48:00.219><c> a</c><00:48:00.599><c> single</c><00:48:00.980><c> position</c>

00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:03.840
that<00:48:02.280><c> you</c><00:48:02.460><c> can</c><00:48:02.639><c> represent</c><00:48:02.980><c> on</c><00:48:03.380><c> a</c><00:48:03.440><c> page</c><00:48:03.619><c> that</c>

00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:06.719
will<00:48:04.079><c> cover</c><00:48:04.460><c> all</c><00:48:04.800><c> expositions</c><00:48:05.360><c> of</c><00:48:05.579><c> it.</c>

00:48:09.780 --> 00:48:09.980
Brady,

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which<00:48:10.300><c> is</c><00:48:10.500><c> one</c><00:48:10.639><c> of</c><00:48:10.840><c> the</c><00:48:11.179><c> most</c><00:48:11.639><c> confident</c>

00:48:11.980 --> 00:48:14.239
expounders<00:48:13.079><c> of</c><00:48:13.239><c> the</c><00:48:13.420><c> clean</c><00:48:13.599><c> flesh</c><00:48:13.820><c> teaching,</c>

00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:16.599
differs<00:48:14.599><c> in</c><00:48:14.820><c> some</c><00:48:15.000><c> respects</c><00:48:15.420><c> from</c><00:48:15.820><c> Turney.</c>

00:48:17.139 --> 00:48:18.500
And<00:48:17.440><c> each</c><00:48:17.699><c> twine</c><00:48:17.940><c> in</c><00:48:18.219><c> Australia</c>

00:48:18.500 --> 00:48:20.139
differs<00:48:19.000><c> from</c><00:48:19.880><c> these</c>

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other<00:48:20.380><c> two</c><00:48:20.599><c> individuals,</c><00:48:21.659><c> Turney</c>

00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:24.079
and<00:48:23.300><c> Brady.</c>

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So<00:48:24.880><c> I</c><00:48:25.079><c> tried</c><00:48:25.360><c> to</c><00:48:25.920><c> do</c><00:48:26.059><c> a</c>

00:48:26.239 --> 00:48:28.099
synthesis<00:48:26.659><c> here</c><00:48:27.159><c> and</c><00:48:27.539><c> get</c><00:48:27.719><c> just</c>

00:48:28.099 --> 00:48:30.159
the<00:48:28.340><c> nature</c><00:48:28.559><c> points</c><00:48:29.079><c> that</c><00:48:29.920><c> seem</c>

00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:32.179
to<00:48:30.320><c> be</c><00:48:30.599><c> common</c><00:48:30.940><c> to</c><00:48:31.280><c> all</c><00:48:31.659><c> clean</c><00:48:31.940><c> flesh</c>

00:48:32.179 --> 00:48:34.079
teaching.<00:48:33.500><c> So</c><00:48:33.900><c> Adam</c>

00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:36.239
is<00:48:34.480><c> viewed</c><00:48:34.659><c> as</c><00:48:35.000><c> a</c><00:48:35.380><c> corruptible</c><00:48:35.900><c> creature</c>

00:48:36.579 --> 00:48:38.420
in<00:48:37.219><c> his</c><00:48:37.400><c> creation</c>

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that<00:48:39.780><c> he</c>

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sustained

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in<00:48:42.840><c> mortal</c><00:48:43.059><c> life</c>

00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:46.000
the<00:48:44.800><c> decayed</c><00:48:45.679><c> processes</c>

00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:48.159
being<00:48:46.420><c> arrested</c><00:48:46.980><c> by</c><00:48:47.559><c> partaking</c>

00:48:48.159 --> 00:48:50.360
of<00:48:48.360><c> the</c><00:48:48.619><c> fruit</c><00:48:48.840><c> of</c><00:48:49.079><c> the</c><00:48:49.239><c> tree</c><00:48:49.340><c> of</c><00:48:49.599><c> life.</c>

00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:52.400
In<00:48:50.800><c> other</c><00:48:50.960><c> words,</c><00:48:51.300><c> the</c><00:48:51.460><c> assumption</c><00:48:51.900><c> is</c>

00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:54.400
often<00:48:52.840><c> made</c><00:48:53.179><c> that</c><00:48:53.900><c> in</c><00:48:54.079><c> Genesis</c>

00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:56.219
chapter<00:48:54.820><c> 3</c>

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Adam

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was<00:48:58.500><c> eating</c><00:48:58.860><c> of</c><00:48:59.099><c> the</c><00:48:59.340><c> fruit</c><00:48:59.539><c> of</c><00:48:59.820><c> the</c><00:49:00.059><c> tree</c>

00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:01.840
of<00:49:00.460><c> life</c><00:49:00.659><c> continually.</c>

00:49:02.380 --> 00:49:04.280
And<00:49:02.539><c> if</c><00:49:02.639><c> you</c><00:49:02.699><c> notice</c><00:49:02.960><c> in</c><00:49:03.119><c> Genesis</c><00:49:03.539><c> chapter</c><00:49:03.960><c> 2</c>

00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:06.059
there<00:49:05.059><c> is</c><00:49:05.260><c> no</c><00:49:05.519><c> specific</c>

00:49:06.059 --> 00:49:07.719
prohibition<00:49:06.679><c> against</c><00:49:07.039><c> eating</c>

00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:10.260
of<00:49:08.519><c> the</c><00:49:08.860><c> tree</c><00:49:09.280><c> of</c><00:49:09.500><c> life.</c>

00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:12.179
There<00:49:10.679><c> is,</c><00:49:10.960><c> of</c><00:49:11.039><c> course,</c><00:49:11.519><c> eating</c><00:49:11.679><c> of</c><00:49:11.880><c> the</c><00:49:12.019><c> tree</c>

00:49:12.179 --> 00:49:13.940
of<00:49:12.400><c> knowledge</c><00:49:12.619><c> of</c><00:49:12.760><c> good</c><00:49:12.860><c> and</c><00:49:13.019><c> evil.</c>

00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:17.340
Verse<00:49:16.360><c> 16,</c>

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And<00:49:17.559><c> the</c><00:49:17.599><c> Lord</c><00:49:18.039><c> God</c>

00:49:18.260 --> 00:49:19.659
commanded<00:49:18.739><c> to</c><00:49:18.980><c> man,</c><00:49:19.500><c> saying,</c>

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You<00:49:19.940><c> may</c><00:49:20.420><c> freely</c><00:49:20.880><c> eat</c>

00:49:21.539 --> 00:49:23.400
of<00:49:22.159><c> every</c><00:49:22.460><c> tree</c><00:49:22.659><c> of</c><00:49:22.760><c> the</c><00:49:22.980><c> garden,</c>

00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:25.659
but<00:49:23.880><c> of</c><00:49:24.019><c> the</c><00:49:24.219><c> tree</c><00:49:24.519><c> of</c><00:49:24.699><c> knowledge</c><00:49:24.960><c> of</c><00:49:25.139><c> good</c><00:49:25.300><c> and</c><00:49:25.480><c> evil</c>

00:49:25.659 --> 00:49:27.400
you<00:49:25.880><c> shall</c><00:49:26.179><c> not</c><00:49:26.440><c> eat.</c>

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For<00:49:28.599><c> the</c><00:49:28.780><c> day</c><00:49:29.019><c> that</c><00:49:29.199><c> you</c><00:49:29.400><c> eat</c><00:49:29.639><c> of</c><00:49:29.800><c> it</c>

00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:31.920
you<00:49:30.320><c> shall</c><00:49:30.639><c> die,</c><00:49:30.980><c> or</c><00:49:31.199><c> you</c><00:49:31.340><c> shall</c><00:49:31.659><c> surely</c>

00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:33.960
die,<00:49:32.559><c> authorized</c><00:49:32.980><c> version.</c>

00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:36.059
So<00:49:35.579><c> in</c><00:49:35.820><c> this</c>

00:49:36.059 --> 00:49:38.239
view,<00:49:37.000><c> the</c><00:49:37.239><c> prohibition</c><00:49:37.699><c> is</c><00:49:37.980><c> not</c>

00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:41.000
extended<00:49:38.820><c> to</c><00:49:39.139><c> the</c><00:49:39.420><c> tree</c><00:49:39.760><c> of</c><00:49:40.139><c> life,</c>

00:49:41.179 --> 00:49:41.900
but<00:49:41.440><c> he</c><00:49:41.719><c> is</c>

00:49:41.900 --> 00:49:44.139
commanded<00:49:42.519><c> to</c><00:49:43.039><c> abstain</c><00:49:43.519><c> the</c><00:49:43.679><c> tree</c><00:49:43.960><c> of</c>

00:49:44.139 --> 00:49:45.880
knowledge<00:49:44.320><c> of</c><00:49:44.519><c> evil,</c><00:49:44.840><c> of</c><00:49:44.980><c> good</c><00:49:45.139><c> and</c><00:49:45.260><c> evil,</c><00:49:45.659><c> and</c>

00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:48.639
can<00:49:46.099><c> partake</c><00:49:46.480><c> of</c><00:49:46.639><c> every</c><00:49:47.039><c> tree</c><00:49:47.340><c> in</c><00:49:47.559><c> the</c><00:49:47.739><c> garden.</c>

00:49:50.139 --> 00:49:52.280
Now,<00:49:50.659><c> the</c><00:49:50.860><c> serpent</c><00:49:51.239><c> is</c><00:49:51.579><c> an</c><00:49:51.840><c> embarrassment</c>

00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:54.340
for<00:49:52.579><c> the</c><00:49:52.760><c> clean</c><00:49:52.980><c> fleshed</c><00:49:53.440><c> person,</c>

00:49:54.500 --> 00:49:55.820
a<00:49:54.719><c> very</c><00:49:55.199><c> difficult</c>

00:49:55.820 --> 00:49:57.920
embarrassment,<00:49:57.420><c> because</c>

00:49:57.920 --> 00:49:59.920
the<00:49:58.199><c> serpent</c><00:49:58.539><c> really</c><00:49:58.880><c> plays</c><00:49:59.179><c> no</c><00:49:59.539><c> useful</c>

00:49:59.920 --> 00:50:02.599
part<00:50:00.320><c> in</c><00:50:00.480><c> the</c><00:50:00.659><c> Genesis</c><00:50:00.920><c> account</c><00:50:01.380><c> whatsoever.</c>

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When<00:50:03.539><c> man</c>

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commits<00:50:04.619><c> sins,</c>

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in<00:50:05.639><c> this</c><00:50:05.960><c> view,</c>

00:50:07.539 --> 00:50:09.960
Adam's<00:50:08.059><c> life</c><00:50:08.320><c> is</c><00:50:08.860><c> forfeit.</c>

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In<00:50:10.639><c> other</c><00:50:10.860><c> words,</c>

00:50:11.380 --> 00:50:13.920
he<00:50:11.599><c> is</c><00:50:11.920><c> then</c><00:50:12.500><c> a</c><00:50:13.260><c> condemned</c>

00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:14.739
creature

00:50:14.739 --> 00:50:18.420
that<00:50:15.900><c> should</c><00:50:16.139><c> have</c><00:50:16.400><c> died</c><00:50:16.659><c> that</c><00:50:16.960><c> very</c><00:50:17.380><c> day.</c>

00:50:18.659 --> 00:50:19.519
And<00:50:18.920><c> rather</c><00:50:19.139><c> than</c><00:50:19.320><c> the</c>

00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:21.480
christened<00:50:19.880><c> elf</c><00:50:20.059><c> in</c><00:50:20.340><c> view</c><00:50:20.599><c> that</c>

00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:23.019
dying,<00:50:22.079><c> thou</c><00:50:22.199><c> shalt</c><00:50:22.619><c> die,</c>

00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:24.659
in<00:50:23.239><c> the</c><00:50:23.300><c> day</c><00:50:23.440><c> that</c><00:50:23.760><c> he</c><00:50:23.800><c> ate</c><00:50:23.900><c> of</c><00:50:24.079><c> the</c><00:50:24.300><c> tree,</c>

00:50:25.139 --> 00:50:27.340
a<00:50:25.460><c> dying</c><00:50:25.699><c> process</c><00:50:26.340><c> set</c><00:50:26.679><c> in</c>

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that<00:50:27.619><c> in</c><00:50:27.659><c> 930</c>

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years<00:50:30.079><c> finally</c><00:50:30.500><c> took</c><00:50:30.699><c> him</c><00:50:30.840><c> to</c><00:50:30.940><c> the</c><00:50:31.139><c> grave,</c>

00:50:32.059 --> 00:50:33.300
the<00:50:32.579><c> clean</c><00:50:32.820><c> fleshed</c>

00:50:33.300 --> 00:50:35.400
view<00:50:33.460><c> is</c><00:50:33.780><c> that</c><00:50:34.320><c> he</c><00:50:34.460><c> was</c><00:50:34.739><c> sentenced</c><00:50:35.119><c> to</c>

00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:37.519
die<00:50:35.539><c> that</c><00:50:35.760><c> very</c><00:50:36.019><c> day</c><00:50:36.719><c> by</c><00:50:37.300><c> a</c>

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summary<00:50:37.840><c> execution.</c>

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In<00:50:40.019><c> other</c><00:50:40.199><c> words,</c><00:50:40.400><c> he</c><00:50:40.539><c> should</c><00:50:40.780><c> have</c><00:50:40.980><c> brought</c>

00:50:41.199 --> 00:50:43.059
death<00:50:41.400><c> that</c><00:50:41.619><c> very</c><00:50:41.940><c> day</c><00:50:42.199><c> that</c><00:50:42.360><c> he</c><00:50:42.480><c> ate</c><00:50:42.500><c> of</c><00:50:42.619><c> the</c><00:50:42.820><c> tree,</c>

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that's<00:50:43.460><c> the</c><00:50:43.559><c> way</c><00:50:43.659><c> they</c><00:50:43.900><c> read</c><00:50:44.059><c> Genesis</c><00:50:44.420><c> chapter</c><00:50:44.760><c> 2.</c>

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But<00:50:46.460><c> what</c><00:50:46.760><c> God</c><00:50:47.139><c> did</c><00:50:47.340><c> was</c>

00:50:48.380 --> 00:50:49.420
he<00:50:48.900><c> intervened</c>

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and<00:50:49.679><c> provided</c><00:50:50.000><c> an</c><00:50:50.340><c> animal</c><00:50:50.619><c> sacrifice</c>

00:50:52.179 --> 00:50:53.460
which<00:50:52.699><c> allowed</c><00:50:53.159><c> the</c>

00:50:53.460 --> 00:50:56.059
sentence<00:50:53.860><c> of</c><00:50:54.280><c> eternal</c><00:50:54.860><c> death</c><00:50:55.079><c> to</c><00:50:55.320><c> be</c>

00:50:56.139 --> 00:50:57.579
waived<00:50:56.659><c> pending</c><00:50:57.139><c> the</c><00:50:57.380><c> death</c>

00:50:57.579 --> 00:50:58.099
of<00:50:57.840><c> Christ.</c>

00:50:58.099 --> 00:51:00.659
Now<00:50:59.340><c> that's</c><00:50:59.719><c> important.</c>

00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:02.280
There<00:51:01.519><c> is</c><00:51:01.900><c> alienation</c>

00:51:02.619 --> 00:51:04.340
occurring<00:51:03.000><c> once</c><00:51:03.320><c> again</c><00:51:03.619><c> in</c><00:51:03.760><c> this</c><00:51:03.960><c> view,</c>

00:51:04.780 --> 00:51:06.260
but<00:51:04.960><c> it's</c><00:51:05.599><c> a</c><00:51:05.599><c> illegal</c>

00:51:06.260 --> 00:51:08.000
alienation.

00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:10.239
And<00:51:09.480><c> since</c><00:51:09.920><c> Adam</c>

00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:12.280
did<00:51:10.599><c> not</c><00:51:10.960><c> die</c><00:51:11.619><c> the</c><00:51:12.059><c> day</c>

00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:14.139
he<00:51:12.619><c> sinned,</c><00:51:13.820><c> it</c><00:51:13.900><c> is</c>

00:51:14.139 --> 00:51:16.440
argued<00:51:14.820><c> that</c><00:51:15.739><c> the</c><00:51:16.059><c> sacrifice</c>

00:51:16.659 --> 00:51:18.219
allowed<00:51:17.079><c> him</c><00:51:17.400><c> to</c><00:51:17.739><c> live</c>

00:51:18.219 --> 00:51:20.500
and<00:51:19.320><c> the</c><00:51:19.579><c> legal</c><00:51:19.880><c> sentence</c>

00:51:20.500 --> 00:51:22.719
under<00:51:21.000><c> which</c><00:51:21.320><c> he</c><00:51:21.599><c> was</c><00:51:21.840><c> laboring</c>

00:51:24.599 --> 00:51:25.360
was

00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:26.500
waived<00:51:26.000><c> pending</c>

00:51:26.500 --> 00:51:28.480
the<00:51:26.800><c> sacrifice</c><00:51:27.380><c> of</c><00:51:27.599><c> Christ</c><00:51:27.860><c> Jesus.</c>

00:51:28.940 --> 00:51:30.860
Now<00:51:29.219><c> how</c><00:51:29.360><c> does</c><00:51:29.539><c> this</c><00:51:29.659><c> affect</c><00:51:29.900><c> Christ?</c>

00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:32.719
Well<00:51:31.679><c> very</c><00:51:31.920><c> often</c><00:51:32.340><c> clean</c>

00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:34.679
fleshed<00:51:33.239><c> teachers</c><00:51:33.539><c> view</c><00:51:33.860><c> Adam</c><00:51:34.199><c> and</c><00:51:34.420><c> Christ</c>

00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:35.880
as<00:51:34.840><c> brothers.</c>

00:51:36.340 --> 00:51:38.679
Sometimes<00:51:36.880><c> it's</c><00:51:37.199><c> called</c><00:51:37.519><c> free</c><00:51:37.800><c> life</c><00:51:38.059><c> because</c><00:51:38.360><c> they</c>

00:51:38.679 --> 00:51:40.639
teach<00:51:38.920><c> that</c><00:51:39.559><c> Christ</c><00:51:39.940><c> received</c><00:51:40.360><c> the</c>

00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:42.780
life<00:51:40.900><c> direct</c><00:51:41.420><c> from</c><00:51:41.679><c> God.</c>

00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:44.599
They<00:51:43.739><c> hold</c><00:51:43.960><c> that</c><00:51:44.199><c> he</c><00:51:44.280><c> was</c>

00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:46.780
not<00:51:44.860><c> under</c><00:51:45.440><c> condemnation</c><00:51:46.239><c> of</c>

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any<00:51:47.159><c> kind.</c>

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That's<00:51:48.940><c> important.</c>

00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:52.860
He<00:51:50.860><c> does</c><00:51:51.219><c> not</c><00:51:51.460><c> have</c><00:51:51.659><c> a</c><00:51:51.840><c> law</c><00:51:52.059><c> in</c><00:51:52.239><c> his</c><00:51:52.539><c> being</c>

00:51:52.860 --> 00:51:54.639
that<00:51:53.059><c> when</c><00:51:53.199><c> he</c><00:51:53.400><c> would</c><00:51:53.539><c> do</c><00:51:53.699><c> good,</c><00:51:54.219><c> evil</c><00:51:54.340><c> is</c>

00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:57.000
with<00:51:54.940><c> him.</c><00:51:55.960><c> That's</c><00:51:56.300><c> not</c><00:51:56.619><c> the</c><00:51:56.760><c> kind</c>

00:51:57.000 --> 00:51:59.059
of<00:51:57.239><c> Christ</c><00:51:57.519><c> of</c><00:51:57.800><c> a</c><00:51:57.920><c> clean</c><00:51:58.139><c> flesh.</c>

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And

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therefore<00:52:01.320><c> they</c><00:52:01.519><c> cannot</c><00:52:01.940><c> accept</c><00:52:02.380><c> the</c><00:52:02.619><c> language</c>

00:52:03.099 --> 00:52:04.679
that<00:52:03.380><c> the</c><00:52:03.699><c> flesh</c><00:52:04.099><c> is</c>

00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:06.599
rightly<00:52:05.139><c> related</c><00:52:05.539><c> to</c><00:52:05.860><c> death.</c>

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In<00:52:09.099><c> the</c><00:52:09.320><c> fourth</c><00:52:09.559><c> point,</c><00:52:10.159><c> Christ</c><00:52:10.420><c> is</c><00:52:10.780><c> viewed</c>

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as<00:52:11.340><c> dying</c><00:52:11.719><c> as</c><00:52:12.199><c> a</c><00:52:12.300><c> substitute.</c>

00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:14.780
There<00:52:13.300><c> you</c><00:52:13.579><c> see</c><00:52:13.719><c> the</c><00:52:14.019><c> true</c><00:52:14.260><c> church</c>

00:52:14.780 --> 00:52:16.860
pew,<00:52:16.199><c> where</c><00:52:16.380><c> you</c><00:52:16.559><c> find</c>

00:52:16.860 --> 00:52:18.659
a<00:52:17.159><c> sinner</c><00:52:17.460><c> on</c><00:52:17.860><c> the</c><00:52:18.139><c> scaffold</c>

00:52:18.659 --> 00:52:20.940
condemned<00:52:19.300><c> to</c><00:52:19.599><c> die,</c><00:52:20.360><c> and</c><00:52:20.500><c> Jesus</c>

00:52:20.940 --> 00:52:22.739
comes<00:52:21.239><c> in</c><00:52:21.460><c> and</c><00:52:21.579><c> takes</c><00:52:21.920><c> his</c><00:52:22.199><c> place</c>

00:52:22.739 --> 00:52:25.199
and<00:52:23.599><c> is</c><00:52:23.800><c> an</c><00:52:24.119><c> innocent</c><00:52:24.519><c> victim</c>

00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:26.880
for<00:52:25.860><c> the</c><00:52:26.019><c> condemned</c><00:52:26.360><c> criminal.</c>

00:52:27.179 --> 00:52:29.260
And<00:52:27.300><c> that's</c><00:52:27.539><c> the</c><00:52:27.639><c> view</c><00:52:27.760><c> of</c><00:52:28.019><c> clean</c><00:52:28.219><c> flesh.</c>

00:52:30.780 --> 00:52:32.960
Number<00:52:31.099><c> five,</c><00:52:31.460><c> his</c><00:52:31.739><c> death</c><00:52:31.960><c> was</c><00:52:32.400><c> entirely</c>

00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:34.840
for<00:52:33.340><c> his</c><00:52:33.780><c> friends,</c>

00:52:35.139 --> 00:52:36.280
the<00:52:35.440><c> sheep.</c>

00:52:36.380 --> 00:52:38.860
He<00:52:36.579><c> had</c><00:52:36.860><c> no</c><00:52:37.139><c> need</c><00:52:37.280><c> to</c><00:52:37.559><c> die</c><00:52:37.760><c> whatsoever.</c>

00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:41.500
It<00:52:39.440><c> was</c><00:52:39.780><c> entirely</c><00:52:40.239><c> for</c><00:52:40.480><c> the</c><00:52:40.719><c> sheep.</c>

00:52:41.940 --> 00:52:42.860
He<00:52:42.239><c> paid</c><00:52:42.599><c> the</c>

00:52:42.860 --> 00:52:44.780
ransom<00:52:43.260><c> price</c><00:52:43.719><c> of</c><00:52:43.880><c> his</c><00:52:44.139><c> sacrificial</c>

00:52:44.780 --> 00:52:47.000
death<00:52:45.679><c> to</c><00:52:46.019><c> uphold</c><00:52:46.280><c> the</c><00:52:46.539><c> demands</c>

00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:48.760
of<00:52:47.440><c> God's</c><00:52:47.860><c> justice.</c>

00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:50.920
Now<00:52:50.440><c> this</c><00:52:50.579><c> has</c>

00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:53.079
very<00:52:52.000><c> many</c><00:52:52.340><c> implications</c>

00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:54.179
this<00:52:53.400><c> view.</c>

00:52:55.059 --> 00:52:57.159
And<00:52:55.260><c> notice</c><00:52:55.420><c> the</c><00:52:55.679><c> argument</c><00:52:56.019><c> set</c><00:52:56.239><c> out</c><00:52:56.340><c> in</c><00:52:56.519><c> the</c><00:52:56.639><c> first</c><00:52:56.860><c> box</c>

00:52:57.159 --> 00:52:58.539
at<00:52:57.400><c> the</c><00:52:57.559><c> top.</c>

00:52:59.179 --> 00:53:01.300
They<00:52:59.579><c> argue</c><00:52:59.880><c> there</c><00:53:00.099><c> was</c><00:53:00.360><c> no</c><00:53:00.739><c> physical</c>

00:53:01.300 --> 00:53:03.760
change<00:53:01.960><c> in</c><00:53:02.539><c> Adam's</c><00:53:02.960><c> nature.</c>

00:53:03.980 --> 00:53:05.119
Now<00:53:04.239><c> that's</c><00:53:04.519><c> an</c><00:53:04.800><c> important</c>

00:53:05.119 --> 00:53:07.260
point.<00:53:06.300><c> In</c><00:53:06.460><c> our</c><00:53:06.739><c> chart</c>

00:53:07.260 --> 00:53:08.860
that<00:53:07.699><c> we</c><00:53:07.960><c> used,</c>

00:53:10.340 --> 00:53:11.199
do<00:53:10.639><c> you</c><00:53:10.739><c> have</c><00:53:10.820><c> the</c><00:53:10.920><c> nice</c>

00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:12.719
point<00:53:11.539><c> to</c><00:53:11.760><c> note</c>

00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:15.320
that<00:53:13.320><c> there</c><00:53:13.639><c> certainly</c><00:53:13.960><c> was</c><00:53:14.500><c> a</c><00:53:14.920><c> change</c>

00:53:15.320 --> 00:53:16.860
in<00:53:15.599><c> Adam's</c><00:53:15.960><c> nature.</c>

00:53:17.860 --> 00:53:19.079
That<00:53:18.099><c> he</c><00:53:18.340><c> became</c><00:53:18.760><c> subject</c>

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to<00:53:19.820><c> mortality.</c>

00:53:21.380 --> 00:53:23.400
In<00:53:21.480><c> the</c><00:53:21.679><c> words</c><00:53:21.860><c> of</c><00:53:22.079><c> the</c><00:53:22.219><c> statement</c><00:53:22.420><c> of</c><00:53:22.679><c> faith,</c><00:53:23.059><c> it</c><00:53:23.059><c> became</c>

00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:26.019
a<00:53:23.760><c> physical</c><00:53:24.260><c> law</c><00:53:24.679><c> of</c><00:53:24.920><c> his</c><00:53:25.159><c> being.</c>

00:53:26.179 --> 00:53:27.079
And<00:53:26.320><c> the</c><00:53:26.519><c> language</c>

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implanted<00:53:28.239><c> was</c><00:53:28.679><c> used.</c>

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So<00:53:31.039><c> in</c><00:53:31.159><c> the</c>

00:53:31.300 --> 00:53:33.460
Orthodox<00:53:31.780><c> Christadelphian</c><00:53:32.579><c> view,</c><00:53:32.940><c> the</c><00:53:33.019><c> very</c>

00:53:33.460 --> 00:53:35.340
good<00:53:33.760><c> state</c><00:53:34.059><c> of</c><00:53:34.940><c> Adam</c>

00:53:35.340 --> 00:53:37.659
became<00:53:36.139><c> a</c><00:53:36.519><c> changed</c><00:53:36.860><c> condition</c>

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in<00:53:38.559><c> which</c><00:53:38.820><c> the</c><00:53:39.159><c> law</c>

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of<00:53:40.340><c> decay</c><00:53:40.900><c> was</c>

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implanted.<00:53:42.679><c> But</c><00:53:42.880><c> not</c><00:53:43.159><c> so</c>

00:53:43.340 --> 00:53:45.059
for<00:53:43.539><c> the</c><00:53:43.659><c> clean</c><00:53:43.860><c> flesh</c><00:53:44.139><c> person.</c>

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The<00:53:45.780><c> clean</c><00:53:46.079><c> flesh</c><00:53:46.320><c> person</c><00:53:46.739><c> says</c><00:53:47.039><c> that</c>

00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:49.440
the<00:53:47.440><c> nature</c><00:53:47.699><c> of</c><00:53:48.059><c> Adam</c><00:53:48.260><c> after</c><00:53:48.739><c> the</c><00:53:48.980><c> fall</c><00:53:49.119><c> was</c>

00:53:49.440 --> 00:53:51.360
exactly<00:53:49.880><c> the</c><00:53:50.099><c> same</c><00:53:50.239><c> as</c><00:53:50.400><c> the</c><00:53:50.519><c> nature</c><00:53:50.739><c> of</c><00:53:50.920><c> Adam</c><00:53:51.019><c> before</c>

00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:52.420
the<00:53:51.579><c> fall.</c>

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And<00:53:53.519><c> that</c><00:53:53.639><c> there's</c><00:53:53.840><c> nothing</c><00:53:54.239><c> inherent</c><00:53:54.780><c> within</c><00:53:55.059><c> our</c>

00:53:55.320 --> 00:53:57.719
nature<00:53:55.900><c> that</c><00:53:56.559><c> prevents</c><00:53:56.940><c> us</c>

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from<00:53:58.139><c> being</c><00:53:58.420><c> obedient.</c>

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So<00:54:00.820><c> argument</c><00:54:01.159><c> number</c>

00:54:01.579 --> 00:54:03.539
one.<00:54:02.820><c> There</c><00:54:02.920><c> is</c><00:54:03.219><c> no</c>

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physical<00:54:04.039><c> change</c><00:54:04.619><c> in</c><00:54:05.059><c> Adam's</c>

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nature.

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Number<00:54:07.300><c> two.</c>

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What<00:54:08.340><c> did</c><00:54:08.599><c> happen</c><00:54:09.039><c> to</c><00:54:09.280><c> him?</c>

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When<00:54:10.699><c> it</c><00:54:10.880><c> says,</c><00:54:11.820><c> the</c><00:54:11.840><c> lady</c><00:54:12.079><c> that</c><00:54:12.260><c> shall</c><00:54:12.500><c> feed</c><00:54:12.780><c> his</c>

00:54:12.940 --> 00:54:15.320
center<00:54:13.159><c> hall,</c><00:54:13.699><c> thou</c><00:54:13.900><c> shalt</c><00:54:14.400><c> surely</c><00:54:14.840><c> die.</c>

00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:17.400
What<00:54:16.380><c> does</c><00:54:16.480><c> this</c><00:54:16.739><c> statement</c><00:54:16.880><c> mean</c><00:54:17.019><c> in</c><00:54:17.139><c> the</c><00:54:17.199><c> Bible?</c>

00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:19.719
What<00:54:18.000><c> does</c><00:54:18.119><c> it</c><00:54:18.300><c> really</c><00:54:18.500><c> mean?</c><00:54:18.840><c> What</c><00:54:19.119><c> died</c><00:54:19.360><c> in</c>

00:54:19.719 --> 00:54:21.380
Adam?<00:54:20.699><c> Well</c><00:54:21.019><c> that</c>

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expression<00:54:21.940><c> in</c><00:54:22.199><c> Hebrew</c><00:54:22.619><c> is</c>

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a<00:54:23.599><c> form</c><00:54:23.800><c> of</c><00:54:24.039><c> emphasis.</c>

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It's<00:54:26.159><c> a</c><00:54:26.360><c> solemn</c><00:54:26.639><c> declaration</c>

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in<00:54:27.519><c> Hebrew.</c><00:54:28.420><c> There's</c><00:54:28.679><c> lots</c><00:54:28.960><c> of</c><00:54:29.340><c> other</c>

00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:31.599
examples<00:54:30.039><c> of</c><00:54:30.239><c> this</c><00:54:30.420><c> in</c><00:54:30.639><c> Scripture.</c>

00:54:31.739 --> 00:54:33.599
It<00:54:31.900><c> means</c><00:54:32.239><c> that</c><00:54:32.500><c> the</c><00:54:32.780><c> dying</c><00:54:33.000><c> process</c>

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set<00:54:33.920><c> in</c><00:54:34.420><c> and</c><00:54:34.880><c> he</c><00:54:35.079><c> terminated</c>

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that<00:54:35.780><c> day.</c><00:54:36.380><c> In</c><00:54:36.500><c> other</c><00:54:36.639><c> words,</c>

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the<00:54:37.820><c> dying</c><00:54:38.079><c> process</c>

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that<00:54:39.840><c> was</c><00:54:40.940><c> imposed</c>

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upon<00:54:41.719><c> Adam,</c><00:54:43.000><c> in</c><00:54:43.119><c> this</c>

00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:45.340
day<00:54:43.559><c> and</c><00:54:43.780><c> here,</c><00:54:43.880><c> he</c><00:54:43.880><c> was</c><00:54:44.079><c> very</c><00:54:44.480><c> good.</c><00:54:44.599><c> He</c><00:54:44.679><c> wasn't</c><00:54:45.000><c> subject</c>

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to<00:54:45.579><c> mortality.</c>

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Mortality<00:54:47.719><c> came</c><00:54:48.019><c> by</c><00:54:48.380><c> sin.</c>

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Once<00:54:49.739><c> he</c><00:54:50.179><c> transgressed</c><00:54:50.880><c> and</c><00:54:50.980><c> the</c><00:54:51.199><c> nature</c>

00:54:51.360 --> 00:54:53.300
that<00:54:51.579><c> was</c><00:54:51.920><c> styled</c><00:54:52.139><c> very</c><00:54:52.539><c> good,</c><00:54:52.800><c> the</c><00:54:52.960><c> condition</c>

00:54:53.300 --> 00:54:55.460
styled<00:54:53.599><c> very</c><00:54:53.980><c> good,</c><00:54:54.900><c> then</c><00:54:55.139><c> became</c>

00:54:55.460 --> 00:54:57.219
a<00:54:55.639><c> nature</c><00:54:56.000><c> bent</c><00:54:56.400><c> toward</c><00:54:56.760><c> evil</c>

00:54:57.219 --> 00:54:59.260
and<00:54:57.699><c> subject</c><00:54:57.940><c> to</c><00:54:58.179><c> mortality.</c>

00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:01.820
And<00:54:59.619><c> so</c><00:54:59.739><c> the</c><00:54:59.940><c> statement</c><00:55:00.260><c> dying</c><00:55:00.679><c> thou</c><00:55:00.920><c> shalt</c><00:55:01.239><c> die</c>

00:55:01.820 --> 00:55:03.360
or<00:55:02.659><c> barely</c><00:55:02.940><c> I</c><00:55:03.239><c> say</c>

00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:05.739
unto<00:55:03.619><c> you,</c><00:55:04.159><c> today</c><00:55:04.639><c> thou</c><00:55:04.960><c> shalt</c><00:55:05.320><c> die</c>

00:55:05.739 --> 00:55:07.300
in<00:55:06.239><c> Hebrew,</c>

00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:09.260
means<00:55:07.639><c> that</c><00:55:08.260><c> the</c><00:55:08.440><c> decay</c><00:55:08.699><c> process</c>

00:55:09.260 --> 00:55:11.260
would<00:55:09.539><c> set</c><00:55:09.719><c> in,</c><00:55:10.440><c> which</c><00:55:10.599><c> would</c><00:55:10.880><c> finally</c>

00:55:11.260 --> 00:55:13.340
terminate<00:55:12.039><c> with</c><00:55:12.340><c> his</c><00:55:12.960><c> end</c>

00:55:13.340 --> 00:55:14.059
in<00:55:13.480><c> the</c><00:55:13.599><c> grave.</c>

00:55:14.300 --> 00:55:16.000
And<00:55:14.539><c> then</c><00:55:14.739><c> what</c><00:55:14.880><c> does</c><00:55:15.119><c> the</c><00:55:15.199><c> poem</c><00:55:15.340><c> mean</c><00:55:15.559><c> in</c><00:55:15.780><c> I</c>

00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:18.980
15<00:55:16.739><c> when</c><00:55:17.059><c> he</c><00:55:17.260><c> said,</c><00:55:18.280><c> as</c><00:55:18.420><c> in</c><00:55:18.699><c> Adam</c>

00:55:18.980 --> 00:55:21.360
all<00:55:19.360><c> died,</c><00:55:19.940><c> even</c><00:55:20.199><c> so</c><00:55:20.420><c> in</c><00:55:20.559><c> Christ</c><00:55:20.920><c> shall</c><00:55:21.139><c> all</c>

00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:22.539
be<00:55:21.519><c> made</c><00:55:21.719><c> alive?</c>

00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:24.000
Well<00:55:22.900><c> that</c><00:55:23.079><c> passage</c><00:55:23.500><c> in</c><00:55:23.719><c> I</c>

00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:26.960
15,<00:55:25.300><c> verse</c><00:55:25.619><c> 22</c>

00:55:27.460 --> 00:55:28.800
is<00:55:28.019><c> the</c><00:55:28.239><c> comment</c>

00:55:28.800 --> 00:55:31.000
on<00:55:29.159><c> verse</c><00:55:29.440><c> 21,</c><00:55:30.320><c> for</c><00:55:30.440><c> as</c>

00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:33.340
by<00:55:31.360><c> a</c><00:55:31.619><c> man</c><00:55:31.940><c> came</c><00:55:32.320><c> death,</c>

00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:35.360
by<00:55:33.639><c> a</c><00:55:33.880><c> man</c><00:55:34.039><c> came</c><00:55:34.340><c> also</c><00:55:34.679><c> the</c><00:55:34.920><c> resurrection</c>

00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:37.460
of<00:55:35.539><c> the</c><00:55:35.659><c> dead.</c><00:55:35.960><c> By</c><00:55:36.199><c> which</c><00:55:36.480><c> man</c><00:55:36.760><c> came</c><00:55:37.059><c> death?</c>

00:55:37.780 --> 00:55:38.219
Adam.

00:55:38.219 --> 00:55:40.800
By<00:55:39.000><c> which</c><00:55:39.340><c> man</c><00:55:39.579><c> came</c><00:55:39.800><c> comes</c><00:55:40.099><c> the</c><00:55:40.320><c> resurrection?</c>

00:55:41.099 --> 00:55:42.039
Christ.

00:55:42.980 --> 00:55:44.219
Now<00:55:43.059><c> what</c><00:55:43.519><c> kind</c><00:55:43.840><c> of</c><00:55:44.079><c> death</c>

00:55:44.219 --> 00:55:46.099
came<00:55:44.619><c> in</c><00:55:44.940><c> Adam?</c><00:55:45.480><c> Well</c><00:55:45.480><c> what</c><00:55:45.719><c> kind</c><00:55:45.860><c> of</c><00:55:45.980><c> death</c>

00:55:46.099 --> 00:55:47.159
did<00:55:46.159><c> you</c><00:55:46.360><c> die?</c>

00:55:48.599 --> 00:55:50.280
Well<00:55:49.119><c> what</c><00:55:49.340><c> kind</c><00:55:49.579><c> of</c><00:55:49.699><c> death</c><00:55:49.880><c> do</c><00:55:50.039><c> you</c><00:55:50.099><c> think</c>

00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:51.880
that<00:55:50.400><c> was</c><00:55:50.539><c> indicated</c><00:55:50.860><c> here?</c>

00:55:52.780 --> 00:55:54.019
Well<00:55:52.880><c> I</c><00:55:52.940><c> don't</c><00:55:53.219><c> think</c><00:55:53.380><c> Adam</c><00:55:53.820><c> died.</c>

00:55:54.059 --> 00:55:55.940
He<00:55:54.340><c> died</c><00:55:54.760><c> consciously.</c>

00:55:57.199 --> 00:55:58.260
If<00:55:57.719><c> the</c><00:55:58.039><c> death</c>

00:55:58.260 --> 00:56:00.000
that<00:55:58.500><c> you</c><00:55:58.719><c> inherited</c><00:55:59.059><c> came</c><00:55:59.320><c> from</c><00:55:59.639><c> Adam</c>

00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:02.059
and<00:56:00.940><c> the</c><00:56:01.119><c> death</c><00:56:01.300><c> that</c><00:56:01.440><c> you</c><00:56:01.619><c> died</c>

00:56:02.059 --> 00:56:04.059
would<00:56:02.460><c> terminate</c><00:56:02.980><c> in</c><00:56:03.159><c> about</c>

00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:06.260
your<00:56:05.039><c> wife's</c><00:56:05.559><c> family</c><00:56:05.699><c> would</c><00:56:05.920><c> terminate</c>

00:56:06.260 --> 00:56:08.619
in<00:56:06.260><c> about</c><00:56:06.460><c> 70</c><00:56:06.860><c> years,</c><00:56:07.820><c> then</c><00:56:08.000><c> it's</c><00:56:08.219><c> quite</c><00:56:08.420><c> clear</c>

00:56:08.619 --> 00:56:09.760
what<00:56:08.840><c> kind</c><00:56:08.980><c> of</c><00:56:09.139><c> death</c><00:56:09.239><c> is</c><00:56:09.519><c> man.</c>

00:56:10.219 --> 00:56:11.659
It's<00:56:10.400><c> physical</c><00:56:10.760><c> death.</c>

00:56:12.960 --> 00:56:14.579
What<00:56:13.099><c> other</c><00:56:13.260><c> death</c><00:56:13.480><c> could</c><00:56:13.639><c> it</c><00:56:13.780><c> be?</c>

00:56:14.860 --> 00:56:15.840
Spiritual.

00:56:15.860 --> 00:56:18.179
It<00:56:16.099><c> couldn't</c><00:56:16.360><c> be</c><00:56:16.599><c> spiritual</c><00:56:16.960><c> death</c><00:56:17.320><c> because</c>

00:56:18.179 --> 00:56:20.260
for<00:56:18.440><c> as</c><00:56:18.579><c> by</c><00:56:18.880><c> one</c><00:56:19.119><c> man</c><00:56:19.420><c> came</c><00:56:19.659><c> death</c>

00:56:20.260 --> 00:56:22.420
by<00:56:20.920><c> a</c><00:56:21.099><c> man</c><00:56:21.219><c> has</c><00:56:21.460><c> also</c><00:56:21.719><c> come</c><00:56:21.920><c> the</c><00:56:22.119><c> resurrection</c>

00:56:22.420 --> 00:56:24.340
of<00:56:22.639><c> the</c><00:56:22.780><c> dead.</c><00:56:23.420><c> The</c><00:56:23.579><c> resurrection</c><00:56:23.960><c> of</c><00:56:24.139><c> the</c><00:56:24.239><c> dead</c>

00:56:24.340 --> 00:56:26.239
is<00:56:24.519><c> not</c><00:56:24.619><c> a</c><00:56:24.800><c> spiritual</c><00:56:25.059><c> resurrection,</c><00:56:25.719><c> it's</c><00:56:25.860><c> a</c><00:56:25.900><c> resurrection</c>

00:56:26.239 --> 00:56:27.260
of<00:56:26.440><c> the</c><00:56:26.559><c> body.</c>

00:56:27.940 --> 00:56:29.579
I<00:56:28.420><c> agree</c><00:56:28.699><c> with</c><00:56:28.900><c> that.</c>

00:56:29.980 --> 00:56:31.980
So<00:56:30.260><c> when</c><00:56:30.420><c> he</c><00:56:30.639><c> says</c><00:56:31.320><c> that</c>

00:56:31.980 --> 00:56:34.340
by,<00:56:33.139><c> for</c><00:56:33.360><c> as</c><00:56:33.559><c> by</c><00:56:33.880><c> a</c><00:56:34.039><c> man</c>

00:56:34.340 --> 00:56:36.599
came<00:56:34.659><c> death,</c><00:56:36.119><c> by</c><00:56:36.219><c> a</c><00:56:36.420><c> man</c>

00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:38.880
has<00:56:36.860><c> come</c><00:56:37.079><c> also</c><00:56:37.340><c> the</c><00:56:37.619><c> resurrection</c><00:56:37.960><c> of</c><00:56:38.219><c> the</c><00:56:38.380><c> dead</c>

00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:40.380
of<00:56:39.500><c> the</c><00:56:39.659><c> dead</c><00:56:39.960><c> is</c><00:56:40.119><c> dealing</c>

00:56:40.380 --> 00:56:42.179
with<00:56:40.760><c> the</c><00:56:40.920><c> termination</c>

00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:44.239
of<00:56:42.480><c> the</c><00:56:42.719><c> natural</c><00:56:43.039><c> body</c><00:56:43.579><c> in</c><00:56:43.940><c> Genesis</c>

00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:45.739
chapter<00:56:44.579><c> 3.</c>

00:56:46.059 --> 00:56:48.219
And<00:56:46.340><c> the</c><00:56:46.539><c> contrast</c><00:56:47.119><c> is</c><00:56:47.360><c> with</c><00:56:47.539><c> the</c><00:56:47.760><c> resurrection</c>

00:56:48.219 --> 00:56:49.940
of<00:56:48.440><c> that</c><00:56:48.639><c> natural</c><00:56:48.960><c> body.</c>

00:56:50.260 --> 00:56:52.619
So<00:56:50.440><c> when</c><00:56:50.559><c> in</c><00:56:50.900><c> Genesis</c><00:56:51.019><c> chapter</c><00:56:51.400><c> 3</c>

00:56:52.619 --> 00:56:53.960
or<00:56:52.940><c> chapter</c><00:56:53.260><c> 2</c>

00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:56.500
in<00:56:54.940><c> the</c><00:56:55.119><c> day</c><00:56:55.320><c> that</c><00:56:55.500><c> you</c><00:56:55.659><c> eat</c><00:56:55.780><c> of</c><00:56:55.920><c> it</c><00:56:56.019><c> you</c><00:56:56.239><c> shall</c>

00:56:56.500 --> 00:56:58.420
surely<00:56:56.840><c> die,</c><00:56:57.960><c> what</c><00:56:58.199><c> God</c>

00:56:58.420 --> 00:57:00.440
is<00:56:58.780><c> conveying</c><00:56:59.119><c> there</c><00:56:59.480><c> is</c><00:56:59.639><c> that</c><00:56:59.860><c> we</c><00:57:00.119><c> inherit</c>

00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:02.719
exactly<00:57:00.900><c> what</c><00:57:01.059><c> this</c><00:57:01.340><c> chart</c><00:57:01.579><c> says.</c>

00:57:03.179 --> 00:57:03.840
Mortality.

00:57:04.340 --> 00:57:06.739
Exactly<00:57:04.639><c> what</c><00:57:04.860><c> Romans</c><00:57:05.159><c> chapter</c><00:57:05.559><c> 5</c><00:57:05.920><c> says.</c>

00:57:08.179 --> 00:57:10.360
There's<00:57:08.599><c> a</c><00:57:08.739><c> very</c><00:57:09.059><c> large</c><00:57:09.440><c> number</c><00:57:09.800><c> of</c><00:57:10.039><c> passages</c>

00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:12.440
in<00:57:10.539><c> the</c><00:57:10.639><c> New</c><00:57:10.820><c> Testament</c><00:57:11.320><c> commenting</c><00:57:11.820><c> on</c><00:57:12.079><c> this</c>

00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:14.340
showing<00:57:13.159><c> that</c><00:57:13.579><c> physical</c><00:57:14.039><c> death</c>

00:57:14.340 --> 00:57:15.780
is<00:57:14.800><c> attended.</c>

00:57:16.900 --> 00:57:18.179
In<00:57:16.980><c> Romans</c><00:57:17.340><c> chapter</c><00:57:17.699><c> 5</c>

00:57:18.179 --> 00:57:20.340
therefore<00:57:18.800><c> as</c><00:57:19.599><c> sin</c><00:57:19.920><c> came</c><00:57:20.159><c> into</c>

00:57:20.340 --> 00:57:22.619
the<00:57:20.619><c> world</c><00:57:20.920><c> through</c><00:57:21.219><c> one</c><00:57:21.539><c> man</c><00:57:21.880><c> and</c><00:57:22.219><c> death</c>

00:57:22.619 --> 00:57:24.039
through<00:57:23.079><c> sin.</c>

00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:26.460
That's<00:57:25.019><c> not</c><00:57:25.239><c> spiritual</c><00:57:25.760><c> death,</c><00:57:26.099><c> that's</c>

00:57:26.460 --> 00:57:27.820
the<00:57:26.539><c> literal</c><00:57:26.840><c> death</c><00:57:27.039><c> he's</c><00:57:27.260><c> talking</c><00:57:27.539><c> about.</c>

00:57:27.980 --> 00:57:29.539
What<00:57:28.360><c> does</c><00:57:28.760><c> he</c><00:57:29.000><c> mean</c><00:57:29.159><c> sin?</c>

00:57:29.539 --> 00:57:31.679
Let's<00:57:29.940><c> forget</c><00:57:30.280><c> death,</c><00:57:30.699><c> what</c><00:57:30.840><c> did</c><00:57:31.039><c> he</c><00:57:31.039><c> mean</c><00:57:31.179><c> when</c><00:57:31.320><c> he</c><00:57:31.500><c> said</c>

00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:33.519
sin<00:57:32.039><c> came</c><00:57:32.280><c> into</c><00:57:32.480><c> the</c><00:57:32.639><c> world?</c>

00:57:33.639 --> 00:57:35.719
Sin<00:57:33.860><c> came</c><00:57:34.059><c> into</c><00:57:34.300><c> the</c><00:57:34.480><c> world</c><00:57:34.719><c> when</c><00:57:34.960><c> man</c><00:57:35.239><c> partook</c>

00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:37.820
of<00:57:35.860><c> the</c><00:57:36.059><c> tree</c><00:57:36.199><c> of</c><00:57:36.320><c> the</c><00:57:36.480><c> knowledge</c><00:57:36.679><c> of</c><00:57:36.860><c> an</c><00:57:36.980><c> eagle.</c>

00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:40.079
It<00:57:38.360><c> was</c><00:57:38.599><c> a</c><00:57:38.719><c> transgression</c><00:57:39.159><c> of</c><00:57:39.340><c> divine</c><00:57:39.659><c> law.</c>

00:57:40.440 --> 00:57:41.599
So<00:57:40.619><c> that</c><00:57:40.739><c> he</c><00:57:40.820><c> ended</c><00:57:41.079><c> up</c><00:57:41.320><c> with</c><00:57:41.500><c> a</c>

00:57:41.599 --> 00:57:43.699
sinful<00:57:41.860><c> nature.</c><00:57:42.500><c> That's</c><00:57:42.780><c> right.</c>

00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:45.139
That's<00:57:44.380><c> what</c><00:57:44.480><c> scripture</c><00:57:44.780><c> says.</c>

00:57:45.260 --> 00:57:47.559
So<00:57:45.420><c> his</c><00:57:45.639><c> nature</c><00:57:46.139><c> which</c><00:57:46.559><c> was</c>

00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:49.860
in<00:57:47.800><c> which</c><00:57:48.019><c> he</c><00:57:48.239><c> had</c><00:57:48.519><c> communication</c><00:57:49.239><c> with</c><00:57:49.480><c> God</c>

00:57:49.860 --> 00:57:51.780
he<00:57:50.239><c> didn't</c><00:57:50.519><c> have</c><00:57:50.820><c> communication</c><00:57:51.360><c> with</c><00:57:51.599><c> God.</c>

00:57:51.860 --> 00:57:53.739
But<00:57:52.039><c> he</c><00:57:52.159><c> certainly</c><00:57:52.420><c> did</c><00:57:52.599><c> have</c><00:57:52.760><c> communication</c><00:57:53.300><c> with</c><00:57:53.480><c> God</c>

00:57:53.739 --> 00:57:55.739
the<00:57:53.980><c> passage</c><00:57:54.260><c> tells</c><00:57:54.599><c> us</c><00:57:54.719><c> that</c><00:57:54.840><c> he</c><00:57:54.920><c> did.</c>

00:57:55.780 --> 00:57:57.500
If<00:57:55.920><c> you</c><00:57:55.980><c> look</c><00:57:56.159><c> at</c><00:57:56.280><c> Genesis</c><00:57:56.559><c> chapter</c><00:57:56.920><c> 3</c><00:57:57.159><c> you'll</c><00:57:57.380><c> see</c>

00:57:57.500 --> 00:57:59.179
this<00:57:57.659><c> very</c><00:57:57.820><c> clearly.</c>

00:58:04.300 --> 00:58:06.019
In<00:58:04.500><c> Genesis</c><00:58:04.860><c> chapter</c><00:58:05.280><c> 3</c>

00:58:07.179 --> 00:58:09.579
we<00:58:07.659><c> read</c><00:58:07.940><c> that</c><00:58:08.159><c> God</c><00:58:08.440><c> speaks</c><00:58:09.119><c> with</c>

00:58:09.579 --> 00:58:11.980
the<00:58:09.719><c> man.</c><00:58:10.860><c> Verse</c><00:58:11.119><c> 8</c>

00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:13.780
of<00:58:12.960><c> chapter</c><00:58:13.239><c> 3</c>

00:58:13.780 --> 00:58:15.800
And<00:58:13.960><c> they</c><00:58:14.199><c> heard</c><00:58:14.539><c> the</c><00:58:14.800><c> sound</c><00:58:14.980><c> of</c><00:58:15.159><c> the</c><00:58:15.260><c> Lord</c><00:58:15.519><c> God</c>

00:58:15.800 --> 00:58:17.880
walking<00:58:16.179><c> in</c><00:58:16.440><c> the</c><00:58:16.579><c> garden</c><00:58:16.780><c> and</c><00:58:17.039><c> it</c><00:58:17.119><c> moved</c><00:58:17.159><c> the</c><00:58:17.380><c> day.</c>

00:58:18.380 --> 00:58:19.360
And<00:58:18.440><c> the</c><00:58:18.519><c> man</c><00:58:18.760><c> had</c><00:58:18.880><c> quite</c><00:58:19.099><c> hid</c>

00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:21.500
themselves<00:58:19.840><c> from</c><00:58:20.059><c> the</c><00:58:20.119><c> presence</c><00:58:20.380><c> of</c><00:58:20.559><c> the</c><00:58:20.679><c> Lord</c><00:58:20.860><c> God</c><00:58:21.119><c> on</c><00:58:21.260><c> the</c>

00:58:21.500 --> 00:58:23.460
trees<00:58:21.659><c> of</c><00:58:21.840><c> the</c><00:58:22.019><c> garden.</c><00:58:22.980><c> But</c><00:58:23.099><c> the</c><00:58:23.280><c> Lord</c>

00:58:23.460 --> 00:58:25.840
called<00:58:23.820><c> to</c><00:58:24.000><c> the</c><00:58:24.099><c> man</c><00:58:24.320><c> and</c><00:58:24.460><c> said</c><00:58:24.619><c> to</c><00:58:24.699><c> him,</c><00:58:24.860><c> where</c><00:58:25.059><c> are</c><00:58:25.320><c> you?</c>

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And<00:58:26.300><c> he</c><00:58:26.440><c> said,</c><00:58:26.480><c> I</c><00:58:26.579><c> heard</c><00:58:26.800><c> the</c><00:58:27.039><c> sound</c><00:58:27.239><c> of</c><00:58:27.340><c> being</c><00:58:27.500><c> in</c><00:58:27.639><c> the</c><00:58:27.800><c> garden</c>

00:58:27.940 --> 00:58:30.039
and<00:58:28.099><c> I</c><00:58:28.219><c> was</c><00:58:28.280><c> afraid</c><00:58:28.619><c> because</c><00:58:28.960><c> I</c><00:58:29.159><c> was</c><00:58:29.340><c> naked</c><00:58:29.599><c> and</c><00:58:29.760><c> I</c><00:58:29.900><c> hid</c>

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myself.<00:58:31.300><c> And</c><00:58:31.460><c> he</c><00:58:31.539><c> said,</c><00:58:31.800><c> who</c><00:58:31.920><c> told</c><00:58:32.099><c> you</c>

00:58:32.099 --> 00:58:34.000
that<00:58:32.280><c> you</c><00:58:32.380><c> were</c><00:58:32.559><c> naked?</c><00:58:32.900><c> You</c><00:58:33.019><c> see</c><00:58:33.159><c> this</c><00:58:33.340><c> communication</c>

00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:36.139
going<00:58:34.219><c> on</c><00:58:34.440><c> there.</c><00:58:35.460><c> There</c><00:58:35.659><c> is</c><00:58:35.820><c> dialogue</c>

00:58:36.139 --> 00:58:38.139
between<00:58:36.440><c> God</c><00:58:36.699><c> and</c><00:58:36.800><c> man.</c><00:58:37.639><c> So</c><00:58:37.800><c> because</c>

00:58:38.139 --> 00:58:40.059
man<00:58:38.500><c> fell</c><00:58:39.039><c> it</c><00:58:39.739><c> didn't</c>

00:58:40.059 --> 00:58:42.039
sever<00:58:40.280><c> the</c><00:58:40.539><c> communication</c><00:58:41.000><c> between</c><00:58:41.239><c> God</c><00:58:41.480><c> and</c><00:58:41.599><c> man.</c>

00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:44.099
What<00:58:42.619><c> it</c><00:58:42.820><c> did</c><00:58:43.000><c> mean</c><00:58:43.159><c> was</c><00:58:43.400><c> exactly</c><00:58:43.719><c> what</c><00:58:43.900><c> the</c>

00:58:44.099 --> 00:58:45.579
chart<00:58:44.199><c> says.</c><00:58:44.579><c> He</c><00:58:44.760><c> suffered</c>

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as<00:58:45.920><c> his</c><00:58:46.119><c> final</c><00:58:46.320><c> conscience</c><00:58:47.079><c> became</c>

00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:49.900
subject<00:58:48.159><c> to</c><00:58:48.360><c> mortality</c><00:58:49.039><c> and</c><00:58:49.719><c> his</c>

00:58:49.900 --> 00:58:51.920
nature<00:58:50.159><c> became</c><00:58:50.559><c> the</c><00:58:50.760><c> embodiment</c><00:58:51.139><c> of</c><00:58:51.300><c> what</c><00:58:51.460><c> Paul</c><00:58:51.719><c> says</c>

00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:53.340
were<00:58:52.139><c> the</c><00:58:52.280><c> seat</c><00:58:52.420><c> for</c><00:58:52.639><c> lust.</c>

00:58:55.840 --> 00:58:57.360
When<00:58:55.920><c> God</c><00:58:56.199><c> said,</c><00:58:56.760><c> where</c><00:58:56.780><c> are</c><00:58:57.079><c> you?</c>

00:58:57.420 --> 00:58:58.699
Did<00:58:57.719><c> you</c><00:58:57.900><c> not</c><00:58:58.019><c> know</c><00:58:58.159><c> where</c><00:58:58.340><c> he</c><00:58:58.440><c> was?</c>

00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:01.159
Sure<00:58:59.360><c> God</c><00:58:59.699><c> knew</c><00:59:00.019><c> where</c><00:59:00.360><c> he</c><00:59:00.460><c> was</c><00:59:00.780><c> because</c>

00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:03.679
God<00:59:01.800><c> is</c><00:59:02.079><c> omniscient</c><00:59:02.900><c> and</c><00:59:03.260><c> all</c><00:59:03.440><c> things</c>

00:59:03.679 --> 00:59:05.820
are<00:59:03.920><c> naked</c><00:59:04.159><c> and</c><00:59:04.340><c> open</c><00:59:04.559><c> before</c><00:59:04.960><c> him</c><00:59:05.179><c> with</c><00:59:05.380><c> whom</c><00:59:05.480><c> we</c><00:59:05.599><c> have</c>

00:59:05.820 --> 00:59:07.739
to<00:59:05.980><c> do.</c><00:59:06.800><c> It's</c><00:59:07.059><c> not</c><00:59:07.219><c> the</c><00:59:07.400><c> point</c><00:59:07.559><c> that</c>

00:59:07.739 --> 00:59:10.039
God<00:59:07.980><c> did</c><00:59:08.260><c> not</c><00:59:08.440><c> know</c><00:59:08.559><c> where</c><00:59:08.780><c> he</c><00:59:09.019><c> was.</c>

00:59:10.980 --> 00:59:11.900
God<00:59:11.239><c> addressed</c><00:59:11.579><c> that</c>

00:59:11.900 --> 00:59:14.559
question<00:59:12.280><c> to</c><00:59:12.519><c> other</c><00:59:12.699><c> people</c><00:59:12.880><c> in</c><00:59:13.059><c> the</c><00:59:13.179><c> Bible</c><00:59:13.360><c> as</c><00:59:13.639><c> well.</c>

00:59:14.639 --> 00:59:15.900
But<00:59:14.840><c> it</c><00:59:14.940><c> was</c><00:59:15.139><c> to</c><00:59:15.400><c> arrest</c><00:59:15.659><c> the</c>

00:59:15.900 --> 00:59:17.599
attention<00:59:16.159><c> of</c><00:59:16.360><c> the</c><00:59:16.500><c> man</c><00:59:16.719><c> that</c><00:59:16.900><c> his</c><00:59:17.159><c> conscience</c>

00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:19.780
had<00:59:17.900><c> been</c><00:59:18.099><c> defiled</c><00:59:18.760><c> and</c><00:59:19.320><c> that</c><00:59:19.519><c> this</c>

00:59:19.780 --> 00:59:21.619
was<00:59:20.000><c> an</c><00:59:20.199><c> effect</c><00:59:20.460><c> of</c><00:59:20.800><c> sin.</c>

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Okay.

00:59:24.400 --> 00:59:26.179
How<00:59:24.699><c> did</c><00:59:24.820><c> one</c><00:59:24.960><c> become</c><00:59:25.320><c> a</c><00:59:25.559><c> sinner?</c>

00:59:26.340 --> 00:59:28.159
That's<00:59:26.639><c> what</c><00:59:26.860><c> the</c><00:59:27.019><c> Bible</c><00:59:27.139><c> says.</c>

00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:30.820
As<00:59:28.420><c> by</c><00:59:28.739><c> one</c><00:59:29.019><c> man</c><00:59:29.639><c> sinned</c>

00:59:30.820 --> 00:59:31.340
I<00:59:31.019><c> am</c><00:59:31.260><c> a</c><00:59:31.260><c> sinner</c>

00:59:31.340 --> 00:59:33.639
for<00:59:31.539><c> two</c><00:59:31.739><c> reasons.</c><00:59:33.039><c> I</c><00:59:33.219><c> am</c><00:59:33.360><c> a</c><00:59:33.500><c> sinner</c>

00:59:33.639 --> 00:59:35.539
because<00:59:34.079><c> I</c><00:59:34.320><c> sin</c><00:59:34.480><c> and</c><00:59:34.699><c> I</c><00:59:34.760><c> am</c><00:59:34.840><c> also</c><00:59:35.260><c> a</c><00:59:35.400><c> sinner</c>

00:59:35.539 --> 00:59:37.360
because<00:59:36.099><c> I</c><00:59:36.500><c> am</c><00:59:36.679><c> a</c><00:59:36.699><c> descendant</c>

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of<00:59:37.860><c> Adam.</c>

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You<00:59:40.980><c> would</c><00:59:41.099><c> agree</c><00:59:41.280><c> with</c><00:59:41.440><c> that</c>

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wouldn't<00:59:41.820><c> you?</c>

00:59:43.260 --> 00:59:45.039
David<00:59:43.739><c> said</c><00:59:44.139><c> in</c><00:59:44.300><c> Psalm</c><00:59:44.519><c> 51</c>

00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:46.860
that<00:59:45.400><c> he</c><00:59:45.699><c> was</c><00:59:45.699><c> born</c><00:59:45.840><c> a</c><00:59:46.099><c> sinner</c><00:59:46.280><c> in</c><00:59:46.539><c> the</c><00:59:46.539><c> shape</c><00:59:46.659><c> of</c>

00:59:46.860 --> 00:59:49.400
a<00:59:47.039><c> man.</c><00:59:48.300><c> This</c><00:59:48.780><c> is</c><00:59:49.019><c> proven</c>

00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:52.000
from<00:59:49.699><c> Romans</c><00:59:50.099><c> itself.</c><00:59:51.280><c> Verse</c><00:59:51.400><c> 12</c>

00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:53.380
of<00:59:52.380><c> the</c><00:59:52.500><c> chapter</c><00:59:52.860><c> I</c><00:59:53.079><c> read</c>

00:59:53.380 --> 00:59:55.760
verse<00:59:54.199><c> 12</c><00:59:54.519><c> of</c><00:59:54.619><c> chapter</c><00:59:54.860><c> 5</c>

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Therefore<00:59:56.659><c> a</c><00:59:57.000><c> sin</c><00:59:57.119><c> came</c><00:59:57.360><c> into</c><00:59:57.559><c> the</c>

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world<00:59:58.059><c> through</c><00:59:58.340><c> one</c><00:59:58.659><c> man</c><00:59:59.119><c> and</c><00:59:59.440><c> death</c>

00:59:59.760 --> 01:00:01.619
through<01:00:00.079><c> sin</c><01:00:00.900><c> and</c><01:00:01.380><c> so</c>

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death<01:00:01.880><c> spread</c><01:00:02.239><c> to</c><01:00:02.420><c> all</c><01:00:02.659><c> men.</c>

01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:05.900
Now<01:00:04.559><c> when</c><01:00:04.659><c> that</c><01:00:04.880><c> expression</c>

01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:07.559
relates<01:00:06.920><c> to</c><01:00:07.179><c> the</c><01:00:07.380><c> sin</c>

01:00:07.559 --> 01:00:09.739
in<01:00:07.820><c> Adam</c><01:00:07.960><c> it</c><01:00:08.219><c> means</c><01:00:08.460><c> that</c>

01:00:09.739 --> 01:00:11.920
when<01:00:10.179><c> Adam</c><01:00:10.519><c> fell</c>

01:00:12.280 --> 01:00:13.599
in<01:00:12.800><c> the</c><01:00:12.980><c> language</c><01:00:13.300><c> of</c>

01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:15.360
scripture<01:00:13.900><c> we</c><01:00:14.159><c> were</c><01:00:14.400><c> all</c><01:00:14.539><c> in</c><01:00:14.679><c> the</c><01:00:14.760><c> loins</c><01:00:14.940><c> of</c><01:00:15.139><c> Adam</c>

01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:16.519
because<01:00:15.619><c> he</c><01:00:15.739><c> was</c><01:00:15.940><c> our</c><01:00:16.119><c> father.</c>

01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:19.340
And<01:00:17.639><c> that</c><01:00:17.980><c> one</c><01:00:18.380><c> signal</c><01:00:18.780><c> act</c>

01:00:19.340 --> 01:00:20.619
we<01:00:19.860><c> were</c><01:00:20.139><c> all</c><01:00:20.420><c> sinners</c>

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because<01:00:21.000><c> we</c><01:00:21.320><c> inherited</c><01:00:21.719><c> a</c><01:00:22.000><c> nature</c>

01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:25.199
which<01:00:23.260><c> would</c><01:00:23.500><c> inevitably</c><01:00:23.960><c> be</c><01:00:24.360><c> sin.</c>

01:00:25.780 --> 01:00:26.960
The<01:00:26.019><c> nature</c><01:00:26.260><c> that</c><01:00:26.480><c> we</c><01:00:26.760><c> have</c>

01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:28.800
is<01:00:27.320><c> our</c><01:00:27.539><c> misfortune</c><01:00:28.219><c> not</c><01:00:28.519><c> our</c>

01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:30.619
guilt<01:00:29.159><c> and</c><01:00:30.239><c> the</c><01:00:30.400><c> nature</c>

01:00:30.619 --> 01:00:32.619
that<01:00:30.880><c> we</c><01:00:31.099><c> have</c><01:00:31.280><c> will</c><01:00:31.559><c> not</c><01:00:31.739><c> in</c><01:00:31.880><c> itself</c><01:00:32.179><c> keep</c><01:00:32.440><c> us</c>

01:00:32.619 --> 01:00:34.519
in<01:00:32.699><c> the</c><01:00:32.900><c> ground</c><01:00:33.320><c> because</c><01:00:34.119><c> God's</c>

01:00:34.519 --> 01:00:36.340
given<01:00:34.639><c> us</c><01:00:34.900><c> his</c><01:00:35.059><c> precious</c><01:00:35.400><c> word</c><01:00:35.579><c> of</c><01:00:35.820><c> truth</c><01:00:36.000><c> which</c>

01:00:36.340 --> 01:00:38.320
we<01:00:36.440><c> intelligently</c><01:00:36.960><c> believe</c>

01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:40.159
accepted<01:00:38.840><c> in</c><01:00:39.119><c> baptism</c>

01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:42.039
will<01:00:40.599><c> enable</c><01:00:40.860><c> a</c><01:00:41.059><c> man</c><01:00:41.199><c> to</c><01:00:41.420><c> live</c><01:00:41.539><c> forever</c>

01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:45.320
if<01:00:42.320><c> a</c><01:00:42.539><c> person</c><01:00:42.719><c> is</c><01:00:43.019><c> faithfully</c><01:00:43.440><c> in</c><01:00:43.659><c> God's</c><01:00:44.059><c> kingdom</c><01:00:44.159><c> on</c><01:00:44.460><c> the</c><01:00:44.559><c> earth.</c>

01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:49.719
Are<01:00:48.480><c> there</c><01:00:48.980><c> any</c><01:00:49.199><c> other</c><01:00:49.400><c> questions</c>

01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:50.980
in<01:00:49.940><c> Genesis</c><01:00:50.219><c> chapter</c><01:00:50.559><c> 3</c>

01:00:50.980 --> 01:00:53.019
that<01:00:51.239><c> you</c><01:00:51.480><c> have</c><01:00:51.760><c> before</c><01:00:52.159><c> we</c>

01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:55.480
consider<01:00:53.519><c> in</c><01:00:53.699><c> more</c><01:00:53.840><c> detail</c><01:00:54.159><c> our</c><01:00:54.420><c> argument</c><01:00:54.679><c> today?</c>

01:00:57.059 --> 01:00:58.539
I<01:00:57.159><c> think</c><01:00:57.340><c> you</c><01:00:57.480><c> have</c><01:00:57.679><c> to</c><01:00:57.900><c> face</c><01:00:58.039><c> the</c><01:00:58.340><c> facts</c>

01:00:58.539 --> 01:01:00.500
in<01:00:58.699><c> Genesis</c><01:00:59.119><c> chapter</c><01:00:59.500><c> 3</c>

01:01:00.500 --> 01:01:03.139
that<01:01:01.119><c> Adam</c><01:01:01.420><c> was</c><01:01:01.679><c> a</c><01:01:01.800><c> living</c><01:01:02.039><c> creature</c>

01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:05.239
he<01:01:03.800><c> was</c><01:01:04.019><c> not</c><01:01:04.239><c> an</c><01:01:04.360><c> immortal</c><01:01:04.659><c> soul</c>

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he<01:01:05.780><c> was</c><01:01:06.000><c> a</c><01:01:06.139><c> living</c><01:01:06.380><c> creature</c>

01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:12.659
I<01:01:08.920><c> said</c><01:01:08.920><c> he</c><01:01:08.980><c> wasn't</c><01:01:11.639><c> an</c><01:01:11.739><c> immortal</c><01:01:12.079><c> soul</c>

01:01:12.659 --> 01:01:16.019
there<01:01:13.159><c> is</c><01:01:14.840><c> a</c><01:01:14.920><c> difference</c>

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he<01:01:17.400><c> was</c><01:01:17.639><c> a</c><01:01:17.800><c> living</c><01:01:18.099><c> soul</c><01:01:18.380><c> that</c><01:01:18.619><c> could</c><01:01:18.820><c> die</c>

01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:20.980
and<01:01:19.260><c> he</c><01:01:19.320><c> did</c><01:01:19.599><c> die,</c><01:01:20.019><c> he</c><01:01:20.019><c> died</c><01:01:20.199><c> 930</c>

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years<01:01:21.280><c> later</c><01:01:21.880><c> as</c><01:01:22.400><c> the</c><01:01:22.579><c> Bible</c>

01:01:22.820 --> 01:01:24.420
tells<01:01:23.179><c> us</c>

01:01:24.420 --> 01:01:26.780
and<01:01:24.760><c> the</c><01:01:24.900><c> punishment</c><01:01:25.300><c> that</c><01:01:25.559><c> he</c><01:01:25.719><c> received</c><01:01:26.219><c> for</c><01:01:26.480><c> his</c>

01:01:26.780 --> 01:01:28.639
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01:05:32.519 --> 01:05:33.159
therefore

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if

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01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:49.460
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therefore

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01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:44.380
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01:06:46.420 --> 01:06:48.579
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01:06:48.579 --> 01:06:50.579
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01:07:02.539 --> 01:07:04.820
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01:07:11.139 --> 01:07:12.519
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01:07:12.519 --> 01:07:14.219
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01:07:14.219 --> 01:07:15.500
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01:07:35.059 --> 01:07:36.019
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01:16:47.279 --> 01:16:49.220
and<01:16:48.659><c> therefore</c>

01:16:49.220 --> 01:16:51.000
death<01:16:49.539><c> came</c><01:16:49.939><c> by</c><01:16:50.319><c> this</c><01:16:50.600><c> sin</c>

01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:53.180
now<01:16:52.159><c> you</c><01:16:52.319><c> see</c><01:16:52.520><c> in</c><01:16:52.739><c> the</c><01:16:52.859><c> central</c>

01:16:53.180 --> 01:16:55.520
fellowship<01:16:53.619><c> view</c><01:16:54.140><c> of</c><01:16:54.539><c> what</c><01:16:54.760><c> took</c><01:16:55.020><c> place</c>

01:16:55.520 --> 01:16:57.399
the<01:16:56.020><c> serpent</c><01:16:56.359><c> is</c><01:16:56.760><c> essential</c>

01:16:57.399 --> 01:16:59.060
because<01:16:58.579><c> it</c><01:16:58.779><c> was</c>

01:16:59.060 --> 01:17:01.420
required<01:16:59.880><c> to</c><01:17:00.500><c> draw</c><01:17:00.819><c> the</c><01:17:01.079><c> attention</c>

01:17:01.420 --> 01:17:04.100
of<01:17:01.579><c> the</c><01:17:01.739><c> woman</c><01:17:02.000><c> in</c><01:17:02.260><c> an</c><01:17:02.460><c> arresting</c><01:17:02.979><c> way</c>

01:17:04.380 --> 01:17:05.119
because

01:17:05.119 --> 01:17:07.039
she<01:17:05.279><c> didn't</c><01:17:05.579><c> have</c><01:17:05.859><c> a</c><01:17:06.000><c> nature</c><01:17:06.220><c> that</c><01:17:06.500><c> in</c><01:17:06.619><c> itself</c>

01:17:07.039 --> 01:17:09.119
was<01:17:07.479><c> prone</c><01:17:07.899><c> to</c><01:17:08.659><c> want</c><01:17:08.880><c> to</c>

01:17:09.119 --> 01:17:10.100
break<01:17:09.300><c> God's</c><01:17:09.779><c> law</c>

01:17:10.100 --> 01:17:12.939
that's<01:17:10.859><c> the</c><01:17:10.939><c> nature</c><01:17:11.119><c> we</c><01:17:11.420><c> have</c><01:17:11.720><c> but</c><01:17:12.060><c> that's</c><01:17:12.340><c> not</c><01:17:12.579><c> the</c><01:17:12.720><c> nature</c>

01:17:12.939 --> 01:17:14.880
that<01:17:13.199><c> she</c><01:17:13.399><c> was</c><01:17:13.640><c> created</c><01:17:13.920><c> with</c>

01:17:15.119 --> 01:17:16.920
and<01:17:15.439><c> so</c><01:17:15.600><c> the</c><01:17:15.800><c> serpent</c><01:17:16.039><c> was</c><01:17:16.359><c> required</c>

01:17:16.920 --> 01:17:19.399
to<01:17:17.239><c> provide</c><01:17:17.699><c> this</c><01:17:18.140><c> enticing</c>

01:17:19.979 --> 01:17:20.539
alternatively

01:17:20.539 --> 01:17:22.979
but<01:17:20.640><c> for</c><01:17:20.920><c> a</c><01:17:21.000><c> person</c><01:17:21.300><c> who</c><01:17:21.560><c> holds</c><01:17:21.739><c> clean</c><01:17:21.939><c> flesh</c>

01:17:23.039 --> 01:17:25.279
what<01:17:23.600><c> do</c><01:17:23.779><c> you</c><01:17:23.840><c> do</c><01:17:23.920><c> with</c><01:17:24.100><c> the</c><01:17:24.319><c> serpent?</c>

01:17:25.939 --> 01:17:26.279
in<01:17:26.039><c> early</c>

01:17:26.279 --> 01:17:29.060
works<01:17:26.880><c> and</c><01:17:27.399><c> turning</c><01:17:27.680><c> works</c><01:17:28.060><c> you</c><01:17:28.460><c> hardly</c><01:17:28.840><c> have</c>

01:17:29.060 --> 01:17:30.020
a<01:17:29.199><c> mention</c><01:17:29.380><c> of</c><01:17:29.619><c> the</c><01:17:29.739><c> serpent</c>

01:17:30.020 --> 01:17:31.420
it's<01:17:30.880><c> an</c><01:17:31.020><c> embarrassment</c>

01:17:31.420 --> 01:17:34.100
and<01:17:32.500><c> when</c><01:17:32.880><c> pressing</c><01:17:33.260><c> people</c><01:17:33.699><c> who</c>

01:17:34.100 --> 01:17:36.140
hold<01:17:34.340><c> clean</c><01:17:34.779><c> flesh</c><01:17:35.000><c> views</c><01:17:35.279><c> in</c><01:17:35.479><c> Australia</c>

01:17:36.140 --> 01:17:38.100
on<01:17:37.140><c> every</c><01:17:37.500><c> occasion</c>

01:17:38.100 --> 01:17:39.920
the<01:17:38.739><c> serpent</c><01:17:39.000><c> was</c><01:17:39.319><c> a</c><01:17:39.460><c> source</c><01:17:39.739><c> of</c>

01:17:39.920 --> 01:17:41.699
embarrassment<01:17:40.279><c> to</c><01:17:40.520><c> them</c><01:17:40.659><c> because</c><01:17:41.119><c> what</c><01:17:41.399><c> purpose</c>

01:17:41.699 --> 01:17:42.880
does<01:17:41.920><c> it</c><01:17:42.119><c> play?</c>

01:17:43.560 --> 01:17:45.539
it<01:17:43.739><c> has</c><01:17:43.960><c> no</c><01:17:44.260><c> useful</c><01:17:44.579><c> purpose</c><01:17:45.000><c> whatsoever</c>

01:17:45.539 --> 01:17:47.619
in<01:17:45.859><c> the</c><01:17:45.979><c> Genesis</c><01:17:46.220><c> account</c>

01:17:48.140 --> 01:17:49.699
because<01:17:48.699><c> the</c><01:17:48.979><c> nature</c><01:17:49.100><c> that</c><01:17:49.319><c> we</c><01:17:49.539><c> have</c>

01:17:49.699 --> 01:17:51.720
now<01:17:49.979><c> is</c><01:17:50.300><c> exactly</c><01:17:50.739><c> the</c><01:17:50.939><c> nature</c><01:17:51.180><c> that</c><01:17:51.500><c> he</c>

01:17:51.720 --> 01:17:53.300
had<01:17:52.100><c> and</c><01:17:52.460><c> that</c><01:17:52.640><c> Adam</c><01:17:52.819><c> had</c>

01:17:53.300 --> 01:17:55.399
before<01:17:53.939><c> and</c><01:17:54.199><c> after</c><01:17:54.479><c> the</c><01:17:54.699><c> fall</c>

01:17:55.420 --> 01:17:57.539
so<01:17:55.960><c> there's</c><01:17:56.180><c> no</c><01:17:56.380><c> real</c><01:17:56.600><c> purpose</c><01:17:56.939><c> for</c><01:17:57.159><c> the</c><01:17:57.319><c> serpent</c>

01:17:57.539 --> 01:17:59.619
it's<01:17:58.100><c> an</c><01:17:58.300><c> embarrassment</c><01:17:58.699><c> for</c><01:17:58.939><c> the</c><01:17:59.079><c> person</c><01:17:59.340><c> who</c>

01:17:59.619 --> 01:18:00.979
holds<01:17:59.840><c> clean</c><01:18:00.039><c> flesh</c>

01:18:01.199 --> 01:18:04.159
that's<01:18:01.800><c> why</c><01:18:01.979><c> you</c><01:18:02.279><c> see,</c><01:18:02.720><c> as</c><01:18:03.000><c> I</c><01:18:03.220><c> said</c><01:18:03.359><c> before</c>

01:18:04.840 --> 01:18:05.439
problems

01:18:05.439 --> 01:18:07.340
begin<01:18:06.060><c> in</c><01:18:06.399><c> Genesis</c>

01:18:07.359 --> 01:18:09.520
if<01:18:07.659><c> you're</c><01:18:08.119><c> straight</c><01:18:08.500><c> on</c><01:18:08.819><c> Genesis</c>

01:18:09.520 --> 01:18:11.359
then<01:18:10.260><c> there's</c><01:18:10.600><c> no</c><01:18:10.859><c> theory</c><01:18:11.159><c> of</c>

01:18:11.359 --> 01:18:13.579
atonement<01:18:11.739><c> that</c><01:18:11.979><c> anyone</c><01:18:12.279><c> can</c><01:18:12.699><c> voice</c><01:18:12.920><c> on</c><01:18:13.180><c> you</c>

01:18:13.579 --> 01:18:15.260
that<01:18:13.760><c> will</c><01:18:14.000><c> be</c><01:18:14.199><c> Godly</c>

01:18:15.260 --> 01:18:17.840
once<01:18:15.659><c> the</c><01:18:15.979><c> facts</c><01:18:16.159><c> are</c><01:18:16.539><c> straight</c><01:18:16.760><c> that</c><01:18:17.039><c> one</c><01:18:17.319><c> sees</c>

01:18:17.840 --> 01:18:20.119
in<01:18:18.420><c> Genesis</c><01:18:18.760><c> chapter</c><01:18:19.180><c> 2</c>

01:18:20.239 --> 01:18:21.399
that<01:18:20.600><c> the</c><01:18:20.859><c> penalty</c>

01:18:21.399 --> 01:18:23.699
in<01:18:22.579><c> the</c><01:18:22.800><c> day</c><01:18:23.020><c> that</c><01:18:23.300><c> you</c><01:18:23.479><c> eat</c>

01:18:23.699 --> 01:18:25.199
of<01:18:23.859><c> it</c><01:18:23.979><c> you</c><01:18:24.220><c> shall</c><01:18:24.460><c> die</c>

01:18:25.199 --> 01:18:27.640
and<01:18:26.239><c> that</c><01:18:26.439><c> that</c><01:18:26.600><c> was</c><01:18:26.859><c> effected</c>

01:18:27.640 --> 01:18:29.239
in<01:18:27.779><c> Genesis</c><01:18:28.260><c> chapter</c><01:18:28.800><c> 3</c>

01:18:29.239 --> 01:18:31.300
verse<01:18:29.899><c> 19</c>

01:18:31.479 --> 01:18:33.880
that<01:18:32.079><c> Adam</c><01:18:32.380><c> would</c><01:18:32.619><c> return</c><01:18:33.039><c> to</c><01:18:33.300><c> the</c><01:18:33.460><c> dust</c>

01:18:33.880 --> 01:18:35.600
of<01:18:34.579><c> the</c><01:18:34.800><c> ground</c><01:18:35.079><c> from</c><01:18:35.359><c> whence</c>

01:18:35.600 --> 01:18:37.479
he<01:18:35.640><c> was</c><01:18:35.880><c> taken</c><01:18:36.260><c> because</c><01:18:36.619><c> he</c><01:18:36.859><c> was</c><01:18:37.140><c> dust</c>

01:18:37.479 --> 01:18:39.140
and<01:18:37.720><c> the</c><01:18:37.920><c> dust</c><01:18:38.180><c> he</c><01:18:38.340><c> would</c><01:18:38.579><c> return</c>

01:18:39.140 --> 01:18:41.500
then<01:18:40.000><c> you</c><01:18:40.260><c> could</c><01:18:40.560><c> never</c><01:18:40.979><c> accept</c>

01:18:41.500 --> 01:18:43.439
the<01:18:41.739><c> belief</c><01:18:42.000><c> of</c><01:18:42.279><c> clean</c><01:18:42.479><c> flesh</c>

01:18:43.859 --> 01:18:45.800
there's<01:18:44.460><c> nothing</c><01:18:44.760><c> in</c><01:18:45.100><c> this</c><01:18:45.399><c> narrative</c>

01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:47.699
that<01:18:46.159><c> speaks</c><01:18:46.439><c> of</c><01:18:46.699><c> his</c><01:18:47.000><c> life</c><01:18:47.279><c> being</c>

01:18:47.699 --> 01:18:48.979
forfeit

01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:51.779
or<01:18:50.199><c> that</c><01:18:50.439><c> a</c><01:18:50.699><c> condition</c><01:18:51.020><c> was</c><01:18:51.380><c> being</c>

01:18:51.779 --> 01:18:53.560
weighed<01:18:52.359><c> pending</c><01:18:52.819><c> the</c><01:18:53.060><c> sacrifice</c>

01:18:53.560 --> 01:18:56.239
of<01:18:53.840><c> Christ</c><01:18:54.199><c> at</c><01:18:54.640><c> some</c><01:18:54.899><c> time</c><01:18:55.060><c> later</c><01:18:55.439><c> on</c>

01:18:56.880 --> 01:18:58.159
rather<01:18:57.420><c> the</c><01:18:57.739><c> penalty</c>

01:18:58.159 --> 01:19:00.239
was<01:18:58.539><c> enacted</c><01:18:59.000><c> and</c>

01:19:00.560 --> 01:19:02.100
Adam<01:19:00.760><c> went</c><01:19:01.000><c> back</c><01:19:01.319><c> to</c><01:19:01.439><c> the</c><01:19:01.579><c> ground</c>

01:19:02.100 --> 01:19:03.659
from<01:19:02.439><c> whence</c><01:19:02.739><c> he</c><01:19:02.840><c> came</c>

01:19:04.140 --> 01:19:05.779
so<01:19:04.680><c> I'd</c><01:19:04.899><c> like</c><01:19:04.979><c> to</c><01:19:05.119><c> leave</c><01:19:05.199><c> it</c><01:19:05.319><c> there</c><01:19:05.539><c> because</c>

01:19:05.779 --> 01:19:08.000
I'm<01:19:05.859><c> sure</c><01:19:06.300><c> many</c><01:19:06.600><c> of</c><01:19:06.720><c> you</c><01:19:06.800><c> have</c><01:19:07.020><c> questions</c><01:19:07.399><c> or</c><01:19:07.720><c> comments</c>

01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:09.920
to<01:19:08.199><c> make</c><01:19:08.359><c> so</c><01:19:08.939><c> we'll</c><01:19:09.279><c> give</c><01:19:09.380><c> you</c><01:19:09.539><c> an</c><01:19:09.539><c> opportunity</c>

01:19:09.920 --> 01:19:12.500
now<01:19:10.239><c> to</c><01:19:10.340><c> make</c><01:19:10.500><c> those</c>

01:19:17.420 --> 01:19:20.579
Steve,<01:19:18.100><c> what</c><01:19:18.399><c> was</c><01:19:18.579><c> necessary</c><01:19:19.140><c> to</c><01:19:19.380><c> dust</c><01:19:19.539><c> the</c><01:19:19.819><c> ground?</c>

01:19:23.220 --> 01:19:23.920
well

01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:25.760
in<01:19:24.979><c> the</c>

01:19:25.760 --> 01:19:27.479
language<01:19:26.739><c> of</c><01:19:27.180><c> Genesis</c>

01:19:27.479 --> 01:19:28.960
it<01:19:27.640><c> seems</c><01:19:28.000><c> to</c><01:19:28.220><c> me</c>

01:19:28.960 --> 01:19:30.840
that<01:19:29.619><c> the</c><01:19:29.800><c> language</c><01:19:30.159><c> was</c><01:19:30.579><c> cursed</c>

01:19:30.840 --> 01:19:32.260
because<01:19:31.239><c> of</c><01:19:31.520><c> Adam</c>

01:19:32.260 --> 01:19:34.710
Genesis<01:19:33.479><c> 3</c><01:19:33.859><c> 17</c>

01:19:37.420 --> 01:19:39.199
Cursed<01:19:38.119><c> is</c><01:19:38.420><c> the</c><01:19:38.739><c> ground</c>

01:19:39.199 --> 01:19:40.979
because<01:19:39.899><c> of</c><01:19:40.199><c> you</c>

01:19:40.979 --> 01:19:43.399
in<01:19:42.079><c> toil</c><01:19:42.319><c> you</c><01:19:42.640><c> shall</c><01:19:42.899><c> eat</c><01:19:43.100><c> of</c><01:19:43.220><c> it</c>

01:19:43.399 --> 01:19:45.279
on<01:19:43.619><c> the</c><01:19:43.800><c> days</c><01:19:43.979><c> of</c><01:19:44.159><c> your</c><01:19:44.380><c> life</c>

01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:46.819
thorns<01:19:45.939><c> and</c><01:19:46.279><c> pistols</c>

01:19:46.819 --> 01:19:48.699
it<01:19:47.159><c> shall</c><01:19:47.340><c> bring</c><01:19:47.760><c> forth</c><01:19:47.939><c> to</c><01:19:48.220><c> you</c>

01:19:48.699 --> 01:19:50.899
in<01:19:49.739><c> the</c><01:19:50.000><c> sweat</c><01:19:50.140><c> of</c><01:19:50.380><c> your</c><01:19:50.640><c> face</c>

01:19:50.899 --> 01:19:53.899
you<01:19:51.180><c> shall</c><01:19:51.359><c> eat</c><01:19:51.739><c> bread</c><01:19:52.020><c> till</c><01:19:52.279><c> you</c><01:19:52.420><c> return</c><01:19:52.699><c> to</c><01:19:52.880><c> the</c><01:19:53.039><c> ground</c>

01:19:54.039 --> 01:19:55.260
so<01:19:54.579><c> I</c><01:19:54.859><c> conclude</c>

01:19:55.260 --> 01:19:57.039
from<01:19:55.460><c> that</c><01:19:55.680><c> statement</c><01:19:56.039><c> that</c><01:19:56.319><c> the</c><01:19:56.520><c> ground</c><01:19:56.680><c> was</c>

01:19:57.039 --> 01:19:58.979
cursed<01:19:57.300><c> because</c><01:19:57.680><c> of</c><01:19:57.819><c> its</c><01:19:58.000><c> effect</c><01:19:58.279><c> on</c><01:19:58.619><c> Adam</c>

01:19:58.979 --> 01:20:01.180
that<01:19:59.720><c> it</c><01:19:59.840><c> would</c><01:20:00.000><c> be</c><01:20:00.180><c> a</c><01:20:00.300><c> punishment</c><01:20:00.619><c> for</c><01:20:00.859><c> him</c>

01:20:01.180 --> 01:20:03.239
to<01:20:01.880><c> provide</c><01:20:02.260><c> his</c><01:20:02.539><c> daily</c><01:20:02.840><c> bread</c>

01:20:03.239 --> 01:20:04.359
by<01:20:03.520><c> the</c><01:20:03.640><c> sweat</c><01:20:03.760><c> of</c><01:20:03.939><c> his</c><01:20:04.140><c> brow</c>

01:20:04.359 --> 01:20:06.039
by<01:20:04.720><c> hard</c><01:20:05.020><c> toil</c>

01:20:07.500 --> 01:20:09.359
do<01:20:08.039><c> you</c><01:20:08.180><c> see</c><01:20:08.279><c> any</c><01:20:08.439><c> other</c><01:20:08.560><c> reason</c><01:20:08.739><c> there</c><01:20:08.960><c> Stephen?</c>

01:20:09.680 --> 01:20:10.579
No,<01:20:09.800><c> I</c><01:20:09.880><c> think</c><01:20:10.079><c> you're</c><01:20:10.380><c> right</c>

01:20:10.579 --> 01:20:13.479
except<01:20:10.960><c> that</c><01:20:11.680><c> it</c><01:20:11.819><c> can</c><01:20:12.079><c> be</c><01:20:12.340><c> easily</c><01:20:12.659><c> argued</c>

01:20:14.619 --> 01:20:15.159
that

01:20:15.159 --> 01:20:17.159
it<01:20:15.699><c> has</c><01:20:16.560><c> been</c><01:20:16.880><c> argued</c>

01:20:17.159 --> 01:20:18.880
that<01:20:17.399><c> the</c><01:20:17.840><c> ground</c><01:20:18.060><c> was</c><01:20:18.420><c> cursed</c>

01:20:18.880 --> 01:20:21.399
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01:20:21.399 --> 01:20:22.199
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01:20:22.199 --> 01:20:24.399
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01:20:24.399 --> 01:20:27.539
will<01:20:25.020><c> cause</c><01:20:25.279><c> his</c><01:20:25.520><c> death</c><01:20:25.819><c> eventually</c>

01:20:29.039 --> 01:20:29.380
now

01:20:29.720 --> 01:20:30.760
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01:20:30.760 --> 01:20:33.760
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01:20:34.979 --> 01:20:36.880
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01:20:36.880 --> 01:20:38.979
did<01:20:37.180><c> not</c><01:20:37.399><c> effect</c><01:20:37.800><c> Adam</c>

01:20:39.079 --> 01:20:41.979
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01:20:42.260 --> 01:20:43.939
to<01:20:42.939><c> get</c><01:20:43.220><c> his</c><01:20:43.600><c> food</c>

01:20:43.939 --> 01:20:47.140
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01:20:47.140 --> 01:20:48.539
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01:20:48.539 --> 01:20:50.319
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01:20:50.319 --> 01:20:51.619
as<01:20:50.500><c> you</c><01:20:50.680><c> pointed</c><01:20:50.859><c> out</c>

01:20:51.619 --> 01:20:54.439
so<01:20:52.619><c> how</c><01:20:52.859><c> would</c><01:20:52.979><c> you</c><01:20:53.260><c> really</c>

01:20:54.600 --> 01:20:56.220
argue<01:20:55.199><c> except</c><01:20:55.579><c> from</c><01:20:55.859><c> the</c><01:20:56.060><c> three</c>

01:20:56.220 --> 01:20:58.000
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01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:00.720
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01:21:01.739 --> 01:21:02.199
I<01:21:01.739><c> would</c><01:21:02.000><c> say</c>

01:21:02.199 --> 01:21:04.439
Stephen<01:21:02.560><c> that</c><01:21:03.279><c> it</c><01:21:03.439><c> would</c><01:21:03.699><c> be</c><01:21:03.979><c> conjecture</c>

01:21:04.439 --> 01:21:06.060
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01:21:06.060 --> 01:21:07.340
his<01:21:06.399><c> death</c>

01:21:07.560 --> 01:21:10.060
I<01:21:08.239><c> suppose</c><01:21:08.899><c> with</c><01:21:09.619><c> subsequent</c>

01:21:10.060 --> 01:21:12.260
generations<01:21:10.739><c> of</c><01:21:11.000><c> individuals</c><01:21:11.520><c> the</c><01:21:11.859><c> environment</c>

01:21:12.260 --> 01:21:13.859
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01:21:13.859 --> 01:21:15.479
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01:21:15.479 --> 01:21:17.439
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01:21:17.439 --> 01:21:20.199
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01:21:20.199 --> 01:21:21.920
and<01:21:20.500><c> we're</c><01:21:20.720><c> told</c><01:21:21.000><c> why</c><01:21:21.380><c> he</c><01:21:21.680><c> died</c>

01:21:21.920 --> 01:21:24.239
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01:21:24.239 --> 01:21:27.079
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01:21:27.220 --> 01:21:28.159
when<01:21:27.819><c> the</c><01:21:27.979><c> Bible</c>

01:21:28.159 --> 01:21:30.600
says<01:21:28.560><c> that</c><01:21:28.779><c> the</c><01:21:28.899><c> creation</c><01:21:29.279><c> was</c><01:21:29.640><c> in</c><01:21:30.060><c> bondage</c>

01:21:30.600 --> 01:21:32.220
to<01:21:30.819><c> decay</c>

01:21:32.119 --> 01:21:34.119
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01:21:34.119 --> 01:21:36.000
to<01:21:34.359><c> the</c><01:21:34.520><c> human</c><01:21:34.760><c> constitution</c><01:21:35.500><c> as</c><01:21:35.699><c> well</c><01:21:35.840><c> as</c>

01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:36.699
his<01:21:36.140><c> environment</c>

01:21:36.699 --> 01:21:40.760
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01:21:40.960 --> 01:21:42.659
apportioned<01:21:41.600><c> wholly</c><01:21:41.659><c> to</c><01:21:41.939><c> his</c><01:21:42.119><c> environment</c>

01:21:42.659 --> 01:21:44.380
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01:21:44.380 --> 01:21:46.479
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01:21:46.899 --> 01:21:48.359
whether<01:21:47.399><c> work</c><01:21:47.720><c> would</c>

01:21:48.359 --> 01:21:50.720
be<01:21:48.899><c> entirely</c><01:21:49.159><c> beneficial</c><01:21:49.699><c> for</c><01:21:50.000><c> him</c>

01:21:50.920 --> 01:21:52.199
or<01:21:51.560><c> a</c><01:21:51.760><c> liability</c>

01:21:52.199 --> 01:21:54.539
but<01:21:53.039><c> certainly</c><01:21:53.500><c> the</c><01:21:53.800><c> reason</c><01:21:54.159><c> why</c>

01:21:54.539 --> 01:21:56.300
Adam<01:21:54.739><c> died</c><01:21:55.100><c> was</c><01:21:55.420><c> because</c><01:21:55.760><c> God</c><01:21:56.079><c> sent</c>

01:21:56.300 --> 01:21:57.739
him<01:21:56.479><c> to</c><01:21:56.640><c> effect</c>

01:21:58.659 --> 01:22:00.159
and<01:21:59.300><c> the</c><01:21:59.939><c> decay</c>

01:22:00.159 --> 01:22:02.220
processes<01:22:00.819><c> were</c><01:22:01.680><c> effected</c>

01:22:02.220 --> 01:22:03.979
and<01:22:02.420><c> finally</c><01:22:02.680><c> terminated</c>

01:22:03.979 --> 01:22:06.439
in<01:22:04.340><c> his</c><01:22:04.600><c> death</c><01:22:04.800><c> and</c><01:22:05.000><c> grave</c>

01:22:09.720 --> 01:22:10.699
okay

01:22:11.340 --> 01:22:13.300
I<01:22:11.819><c> don't</c><01:22:12.100><c> know</c><01:22:12.239><c> if</c><01:22:12.319><c> that's</c>

01:22:13.300 --> 01:22:14.640
that's<01:22:13.560><c> all</c><01:22:13.640><c> I</c><01:22:13.659><c> have</c><01:22:13.819><c> to</c><01:22:13.920><c> say</c><01:22:14.000><c> really</c><01:22:14.199><c> Stephen</c>

01:22:14.640 --> 01:22:16.260
yeah<01:22:15.060><c> I'll</c><01:22:15.260><c> just</c><01:22:15.420><c> make</c><01:22:15.560><c> a</c><01:22:15.760><c> quick</c><01:22:15.859><c> comment</c>

01:22:16.260 --> 01:22:17.060
and<01:22:16.460><c> that's</c><01:22:16.819><c> all</c>

01:22:17.060 --> 01:22:19.539
it's<01:22:17.939><c> interesting</c><01:22:18.260><c> to</c><01:22:18.439><c> know</c><01:22:18.600><c> that</c><01:22:18.840><c> even</c><01:22:19.039><c> atheists</c>

01:22:19.539 --> 01:22:21.500
believe<01:22:19.800><c> in</c><01:22:20.020><c> between</c><01:22:20.300><c> flesh</c><01:22:20.699><c>-carrying</c>

01:22:21.500 --> 01:22:23.460
because<01:22:21.859><c> they</c><01:22:22.159><c> believe</c><01:22:22.399><c> they</c><01:22:22.600><c> can</c><01:22:22.840><c> prolong</c><01:22:23.119><c> life</c>

01:22:23.460 --> 01:22:25.159
and<01:22:23.739><c> a</c><01:22:23.760><c> little</c><01:22:23.899><c> bit</c><01:22:24.000><c> of</c><01:22:24.060><c> research</c>

01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:27.720
therefore<01:22:25.760><c> they</c><01:22:26.140><c> believe</c><01:22:26.399><c> their</c><01:22:26.659><c> environment</c><01:22:27.060><c> is</c><01:22:27.420><c> causing</c>

01:22:27.720 --> 01:22:29.300
their<01:22:28.380><c> downfall</c><01:22:28.739><c> at</c><01:22:28.880><c> the</c><01:22:29.060><c> moment</c>

01:22:29.300 --> 01:22:32.420
they<01:22:29.520><c> can</c><01:22:29.680><c> only</c><01:22:29.840><c> control</c><01:22:30.319><c> that</c><01:22:30.560><c> and</c><01:22:30.680><c> it's</c><01:22:30.880><c> forever</c>

01:22:43.579 --> 01:22:47.239
well<01:22:44.220><c> I</c><01:22:44.859><c> suppose</c><01:22:45.340><c> Ted,</c><01:22:45.539><c> this</c><01:22:45.779><c> is</c><01:22:46.220><c> conjecture</c>

01:22:47.239 --> 01:22:49.159
as<01:22:47.579><c> to</c><01:22:47.779><c> how</c><01:22:48.100><c> he</c><01:22:48.340><c> got</c><01:22:48.539><c> them</c>

01:22:49.159 --> 01:22:50.680
scripture<01:22:49.840><c> tells</c><01:22:50.260><c> us</c><01:22:50.479><c> that</c>

01:22:50.680 --> 01:22:52.319
man<01:22:50.920><c> is</c><01:22:51.220><c> characterized</c><01:22:51.840><c> by</c><01:22:52.159><c> the</c>

01:22:52.319 --> 01:22:53.479
sinful<01:22:52.600><c> lust</c><01:22:52.859><c> now</c>

01:22:53.479 --> 01:22:55.920
I<01:22:54.680><c> don't</c><01:22:54.920><c> believe</c><01:22:55.199><c> that</c><01:22:55.520><c> God</c>

01:22:55.920 --> 01:22:57.779
it<01:22:56.399><c> was</c><01:22:56.680><c> required</c><01:22:57.199><c> for</c><01:22:57.520><c> God</c>

01:22:57.779 --> 01:22:59.079
to<01:22:58.060><c> work</c><01:22:58.239><c> a</c><01:22:58.619><c> special</c>

01:22:59.079 --> 01:23:01.199
miracle<01:22:59.880><c> on</c>

01:23:01.199 --> 01:23:01.899
Adam's<01:23:01.899><c> death</c>

01:23:01.899 --> 01:23:02.920
I<01:23:01.899><c> want</c><01:23:02.039><c> to</c>

01:23:02.920 --> 01:23:05.319
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01:23:05.319 --> 01:23:06.699
to<01:23:05.779><c> deceitful</c><01:23:06.399><c> lust</c>

01:23:06.699 --> 01:23:08.920
I<01:23:07.479><c> would</c><01:23:07.739><c> say</c><01:23:07.920><c> that</c><01:23:08.279><c> those</c>

01:23:08.920 --> 01:23:11.539
factors<01:23:09.640><c> in</c><01:23:10.159><c> Adam's</c><01:23:10.640><c> nature</c><01:23:10.859><c> which</c><01:23:11.180><c> were</c>

01:23:11.539 --> 01:23:12.760
latent

01:23:14.140 --> 01:23:15.340
became<01:23:14.739><c> accentuated</c>

01:23:15.340 --> 01:23:17.500
some<01:23:15.880><c> say</c><01:23:16.100><c> this</c><01:23:16.420><c> took</c><01:23:16.640><c> place</c><01:23:17.060><c> by</c><01:23:17.340><c> the</c>

01:23:17.500 --> 01:23:18.800
eating<01:23:17.720><c> of</c><01:23:17.979><c> the</c><01:23:18.060><c> fruit</c><01:23:18.180><c> of</c><01:23:18.300><c> the</c><01:23:18.500><c> tree</c>

01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:22.000
that<01:23:19.800><c> the</c><01:23:20.119><c> act</c><01:23:20.420><c> of</c><01:23:20.659><c> partaking</c><01:23:21.119><c> of</c><01:23:21.279><c> the</c><01:23:21.399><c> fruit</c><01:23:21.500><c> of</c><01:23:21.619><c> the</c><01:23:21.840><c> tree</c>

01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:24.319
the<01:23:22.239><c> tree</c><01:23:22.579><c> conferred</c>

01:23:24.319 --> 01:23:25.640
of<01:23:24.579><c> this</c>

01:23:25.640 --> 01:23:26.880
characteristic<01:23:26.380><c> to</c><01:23:26.699><c> Adam</c>

01:23:26.880 --> 01:23:29.359
it<01:23:27.359><c> resulted</c><01:23:27.899><c> in</c>

01:23:29.359 --> 01:23:31.500
an<01:23:30.000><c> accentuation</c><01:23:30.800><c> of</c><01:23:31.079><c> those</c>

01:23:31.500 --> 01:23:32.920
latent<01:23:31.779><c> impulses</c><01:23:32.279><c> which</c><01:23:32.539><c> he</c><01:23:32.760><c> had</c>

01:23:32.920 --> 01:23:35.079
as<01:23:33.500><c> you</c><01:23:33.659><c> see</c><01:23:33.699><c> with</c><01:23:33.920><c> the</c><01:23:34.100><c> woman</c>

01:23:35.140 --> 01:23:36.779
the<01:23:35.399><c> serpent</c><01:23:35.659><c> directed</c><01:23:36.140><c> her</c><01:23:36.399><c> to</c><01:23:36.399><c> the</c><01:23:36.619><c> tree</c>

01:23:36.779 --> 01:23:39.359
and<01:23:37.100><c> she</c><01:23:37.399><c> saw</c><01:23:38.039><c> that</c><01:23:38.239><c> the</c><01:23:38.420><c> tree</c><01:23:38.500><c> was</c><01:23:38.720><c> good</c><01:23:38.880><c> for</c><01:23:39.140><c> food</c>

01:23:39.359 --> 01:23:41.340
it<01:23:39.600><c> was</c><01:23:39.840><c> desired</c><01:23:40.359><c> to</c><01:23:40.680><c> the</c><01:23:40.880><c> eyes</c>

01:23:41.340 --> 01:23:43.760
it<01:23:41.960><c> was</c><01:23:42.199><c> desired</c><01:23:42.579><c> to</c><01:23:42.779><c> make</c><01:23:42.920><c> one</c><01:23:43.119><c> wise</c>

01:23:43.760 --> 01:23:45.800
you<01:23:44.579><c> see</c><01:23:44.699><c> the</c><01:23:44.979><c> lust</c><01:23:45.159><c> of</c><01:23:45.399><c> the</c><01:23:45.539><c> flesh</c>

01:23:45.800 --> 01:23:48.460
the<01:23:46.039><c> lust</c><01:23:46.300><c> of</c><01:23:46.500><c> the</c><01:23:46.659><c> eyes</c><01:23:46.920><c> and</c><01:23:47.079><c> the</c><01:23:47.260><c> pride</c><01:23:47.380><c> of</c><01:23:47.640><c> life</c>

01:23:48.460 --> 01:23:49.600
being<01:23:48.979><c> engendered</c>

01:23:49.600 --> 01:23:51.279
by<01:23:49.779><c> the</c><01:23:50.020><c> enticing</c><01:23:50.619><c> money</c><01:23:51.119><c> which</c>

01:23:51.279 --> 01:23:52.420
of<01:23:51.500><c> the</c><01:23:51.619><c> serpent</c>

01:23:53.199 --> 01:23:55.779
so<01:23:53.720><c> I</c><01:23:54.239><c> view</c><01:23:54.600><c> what</c><01:23:55.020><c> takes</c><01:23:55.380><c> place</c>

01:23:55.779 --> 01:23:57.359
Teddy<01:23:56.079><c> that</c><01:23:56.319><c> God</c><01:23:56.659><c> made</c><01:23:56.939><c> man</c>

01:23:57.359 --> 01:23:59.319
with<01:23:58.539><c> these</c><01:23:58.960><c> latent</c>

01:23:59.319 --> 01:24:01.359
capabilities<01:24:00.100><c> which</c>

01:24:01.359 --> 01:24:03.079
when<01:24:01.680><c> sin</c><01:24:01.960><c> defiled</c><01:24:02.439><c> his</c><01:24:02.699><c> nature</c>

01:24:03.079 --> 01:24:05.000
then<01:24:03.460><c> became</c><01:24:03.800><c> active</c>

01:24:05.039 --> 01:24:07.340
you<01:24:05.399><c> know</c><01:24:05.579><c> hyper</c><01:24:06.079><c> so</c><01:24:06.420><c> to</c><01:24:06.619><c> speak</c>

01:24:07.340 --> 01:24:09.760
or<01:24:08.380><c> that</c><01:24:08.859><c> this</c>

01:24:09.760 --> 01:24:11.340
change<01:24:10.899><c> was</c>

01:24:11.340 --> 01:24:13.420
conferred<01:24:12.520><c> upon</c><01:24:12.800><c> taking</c><01:24:13.060><c> the</c><01:24:13.220><c> tree</c>

01:24:13.420 --> 01:24:15.300
of<01:24:13.640><c> life</c><01:24:14.199><c> perhaps</c><01:24:14.859><c> partaking</c>

01:24:15.300 --> 01:24:16.739
of<01:24:15.399><c> this</c><01:24:15.619><c> fruit</c><01:24:15.760><c> had</c><01:24:15.920><c> some</c><01:24:16.199><c> effect</c><01:24:16.439><c> upon</c>

01:24:16.739 --> 01:24:19.119
so<01:24:17.060><c> and</c><01:24:17.399><c> so</c><01:24:17.399><c> we</c><01:24:18.359><c> provided</c><01:24:18.859><c> their</c>

01:24:19.119 --> 01:24:21.859
predatory<01:24:19.539><c> consequence</c><01:24:20.100><c> for</c><01:24:20.359><c> all</c><01:24:20.479><c> those</c><01:24:20.659><c> who</c><01:24:20.880><c> followed</c>

01:24:22.260 --> 01:24:23.199
Brother<01:24:22.979><c> Hump</c>

01:24:23.199 --> 01:24:24.760
resigns<01:24:23.739><c> his</c><01:24:23.960><c> way</c>

01:24:24.760 --> 01:24:26.739
not<01:24:25.319><c> all</c><01:24:25.520><c> again</c><01:24:25.779><c> convincingly</c><01:24:26.560><c> but</c>

01:24:26.739 --> 01:24:28.760
he<01:24:26.939><c> puts</c><01:24:27.100><c> up</c><01:24:27.359><c> a</c><01:24:27.539><c> very</c><01:24:27.699><c> good</c><01:24:27.899><c> case</c><01:24:28.140><c> that</c><01:24:28.380><c> this</c><01:24:28.600><c> might</c>

01:24:28.760 --> 01:24:29.880
be<01:24:28.920><c> in</c><01:24:29.060><c> all</c><01:24:29.119><c> this</c><01:24:29.279><c> good</c><01:24:29.460><c> place</c>

01:24:29.880 --> 01:24:32.800
you<01:24:30.500><c> see</c><01:24:30.640><c> the</c><01:24:30.939><c> fact</c><01:24:31.140><c> of</c><01:24:31.340><c> the</c><01:24:31.399><c> matter</c><01:24:31.520><c> we</c><01:24:31.739><c> cannot</c><01:24:32.020><c> dispute</c>

01:24:32.800 --> 01:24:34.920
that<01:24:33.779><c> man</c><01:24:34.340><c> now</c><01:24:34.680><c> is</c>

01:24:34.920 --> 01:24:36.960
characterized<01:24:35.460><c> by</c><01:24:35.760><c> the</c><01:24:35.880><c> seatful</c><01:24:36.220><c> lust</c>

01:24:37.020 --> 01:24:38.939
that<01:24:37.539><c> language</c><01:24:37.899><c> is</c><01:24:38.239><c> incompatible</c>

01:24:38.939 --> 01:24:40.279
with<01:24:39.199><c> this</c><01:24:39.420><c> statement</c><01:24:39.619><c> in</c><01:24:39.880><c> Genesis</c>

01:24:40.279 --> 01:24:42.579
and<01:24:40.840><c> a</c><01:24:41.039><c> statement</c><01:24:41.279><c> in</c><01:24:41.560><c> Ephesians</c><01:24:42.079><c> which</c><01:24:42.300><c> says</c>

01:24:42.579 --> 01:24:44.640
God<01:24:42.920><c> made</c><01:24:43.199><c> man</c><01:24:43.539><c> upright</c>

01:24:45.579 --> 01:24:47.079
I<01:24:46.100><c> suggest</c><01:24:46.439><c> they</c><01:24:46.640><c> are</c><01:24:46.760><c> mutually</c>

01:24:47.079 --> 01:24:48.659
antagonistic<01:24:47.760><c> statements</c><01:24:48.180><c> God</c><01:24:48.479><c> made</c>

01:24:48.659 --> 01:24:50.579
him<01:24:48.819><c> very</c><01:24:49.140><c> good,</c><01:24:49.600><c> God</c><01:24:49.779><c> made</c><01:24:49.960><c> him</c><01:24:50.119><c> upright</c>

01:24:50.579 --> 01:24:53.079
with<01:24:51.159><c> a</c><01:24:51.340><c> man</c><01:24:51.539><c> characterized</c><01:24:52.140><c> by</c><01:24:52.460><c> the</c><01:24:52.560><c> seatful</c><01:24:52.859><c> lust</c>

01:24:53.079 --> 01:24:55.140
as<01:24:53.300><c> Paul</c><01:24:53.539><c> said,</c><01:24:54.340><c> a</c><01:24:54.460><c> law</c><01:24:54.600><c> of</c><01:24:54.699><c> temperance</c>

01:24:55.140 --> 01:24:56.880
that<01:24:55.279><c> when</c><01:24:55.359><c> he</c><01:24:55.500><c> would</c><01:24:55.619><c> be</c><01:24:55.859><c> good</c><01:24:55.960><c> he</c><01:24:56.119><c> would</c><01:24:56.279><c> always</c><01:24:56.520><c> press</c><01:24:56.699><c> it</c>

01:24:56.880 --> 01:24:57.800
with<01:24:56.960><c> him</c>

01:24:58.300 --> 01:24:59.260
how<01:24:58.779><c> this</c>

01:24:59.260 --> 01:25:01.399
transition<01:24:59.920><c> was</c><01:25:00.220><c> effected</c>

01:25:01.399 --> 01:25:03.720
is<01:25:01.960><c> not</c><01:25:02.199><c> the</c><01:25:02.380><c> subject</c><01:25:02.579><c> of</c><01:25:02.779><c> revelation</c>

01:25:03.899 --> 01:25:05.439
so<01:25:04.380><c> the</c><01:25:04.600><c> two</c><01:25:04.720><c> most</c><01:25:05.000><c> plausible</c>

01:25:05.439 --> 01:25:07.779
answers<01:25:05.800><c> seem</c><01:25:06.060><c> to</c><01:25:06.159><c> me</c><01:25:06.340><c> either</c><01:25:06.760><c> this</c><01:25:07.039><c> was</c>

01:25:07.979 --> 01:25:09.180
conferred<01:25:08.460><c> by</c><01:25:08.739><c> partaking</c>

01:25:09.180 --> 01:25:11.739
of<01:25:09.380><c> the</c><01:25:09.600><c> fruit</c><01:25:09.779><c> which</c><01:25:10.079><c> had</c><01:25:10.279><c> this</c><01:25:10.500><c> effect</c><01:25:10.760><c> upon</c><01:25:11.000><c> him</c>

01:25:11.859 --> 01:25:13.159
or<01:25:12.340><c> that</c><01:25:12.600><c> as</c><01:25:12.699><c> soon</c><01:25:12.840><c> as</c><01:25:12.960><c> he</c>

01:25:13.159 --> 01:25:15.159
partook<01:25:13.479><c> of</c><01:25:13.640><c> the</c><01:25:13.840><c> fruit</c><01:25:14.340><c> God</c><01:25:14.720><c> had</c><01:25:14.939><c> so</c>

01:25:15.159 --> 01:25:16.800
designed<01:25:15.460><c> him</c><01:25:15.739><c> that</c><01:25:16.039><c> these</c><01:25:16.220><c> became</c>

01:25:16.800 --> 01:25:18.859
active<01:25:17.560><c> and</c><01:25:17.859><c> not</c><01:25:18.039><c> weak</c>

01:25:19.020 --> 01:25:20.000
Brian

01:25:20.359 --> 01:25:21.479
Well<01:25:20.920><c> since</c>

01:25:21.479 --> 01:25:23.800
going<01:25:22.159><c> on</c><01:25:22.939><c> with</c><01:25:23.279><c> the</c>

01:25:23.800 --> 01:25:25.439
test<01:25:23.939><c> question</c><01:25:24.399><c> and</c><01:25:24.420><c> discussion</c><01:25:24.880><c> there</c>

01:25:25.439 --> 01:25:27.239
since<01:25:25.699><c> his</c><01:25:26.039><c> transgression</c><01:25:26.520><c> of</c><01:25:26.800><c> the</c><01:25:26.939><c> law</c>

01:25:27.239 --> 01:25:29.600
so<01:25:27.579><c> therefore</c><01:25:28.680><c> prior</c>

01:25:29.600 --> 01:25:31.520
to<01:25:29.979><c> partaking</c><01:25:30.500><c> of</c><01:25:30.739><c> the</c><01:25:30.920><c> tree</c><01:25:31.119><c> of</c><01:25:31.220><c> knowledge</c>

01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:33.420
of<01:25:31.659><c> good</c><01:25:31.800><c> and</c><01:25:31.960><c> evil</c><01:25:32.119><c> there</c><01:25:32.319><c> were</c><01:25:32.479><c> certain</c><01:25:32.739><c> things</c><01:25:33.039><c> that</c><01:25:33.279><c> he</c>

01:25:33.420 --> 01:25:35.619
could<01:25:34.060><c> or</c><01:25:34.479><c> certain</c><01:25:35.020><c> trees</c><01:25:35.300><c> that</c><01:25:35.479><c> he</c>

01:25:35.619 --> 01:25:37.060
could<01:25:35.680><c> take</c><01:25:35.939><c> on</c>

01:25:37.060 --> 01:25:39.279
one<01:25:37.500><c> that</c><01:25:37.760><c> he</c><01:25:37.840><c> couldn't</c><01:25:38.800><c> and</c><01:25:39.079><c> so</c>

01:25:39.279 --> 01:25:41.560
therefore<01:25:39.960><c> that</c><01:25:40.840><c> was</c><01:25:41.300><c> the</c>

01:25:41.560 --> 01:25:43.760
law<01:25:41.739><c> that</c><01:25:41.979><c> he</c><01:25:42.140><c> had</c><01:25:42.380><c> then</c><01:25:42.920><c> and</c><01:25:43.340><c> therefore</c>

01:25:43.760 --> 01:25:45.560
by<01:25:44.079><c> partaking</c><01:25:44.439><c> of</c><01:25:44.619><c> it</c><01:25:44.699><c> in</c><01:25:44.800><c> effect</c>

01:25:45.779 --> 01:25:47.380
transgressed<01:25:46.340><c> but</c>

01:25:47.819 --> 01:25:48.840
afterwards

01:25:49.220 --> 01:25:50.899
they<01:25:49.739><c> know</c><01:25:50.260><c> what</c><01:25:50.680><c> is</c>

01:25:50.899 --> 01:25:52.520
good<01:25:51.079><c> and</c><01:25:51.279><c> what</c><01:25:51.619><c> is</c><01:25:51.640><c> evil</c><01:25:52.100><c> they</c>

01:25:52.520 --> 01:25:54.460
come<01:25:52.699><c> back</c><01:25:53.100><c> to</c><01:25:53.340><c> get</c><01:25:53.560><c> where</c><01:25:53.739><c> you</c><01:25:54.000><c> were</c><01:25:54.159><c> in</c><01:25:54.340><c> it</c>

01:25:54.460 --> 01:25:56.659
but<01:25:54.739><c> the</c><01:25:55.479><c> question</c><01:25:55.840><c> that</c><01:25:56.100><c> they</c><01:25:56.199><c> raised</c>

01:25:56.659 --> 01:25:58.520
in<01:25:57.060><c> psychology</c><01:25:57.479><c> you</c><01:25:57.739><c> say</c><01:25:57.939><c> to</c><01:25:58.180><c> a</c><01:25:58.300><c> person</c>

01:25:58.520 --> 01:26:00.739
you<01:25:59.060><c> shall</c><01:25:59.359><c> not</c><01:25:59.640><c> do</c><01:25:59.720><c> something</c>

01:26:01.039 --> 01:26:02.420
immediately<01:26:01.560><c> there</c><01:26:02.079><c> is</c><01:26:02.260><c> the</c>

01:26:02.420 --> 01:26:04.720
desire<01:26:02.899><c> to</c><01:26:03.140><c> do</c><01:26:03.439><c> it</c><01:26:04.060><c> and</c><01:26:04.279><c> so</c><01:26:04.420><c> therefore</c>

01:26:04.720 --> 01:26:06.399
from<01:26:05.119><c> then</c><01:26:05.300><c> on</c><01:26:05.460><c> there</c><01:26:05.640><c> was</c><01:26:05.880><c> a</c><01:26:06.020><c> certain</c>

01:26:06.399 --> 01:26:08.439
number<01:26:06.979><c> of</c><01:26:07.220><c> things</c><01:26:07.579><c> that</c>

01:26:08.439 --> 01:26:11.020
they<01:26:09.140><c> knew</c><01:26:09.380><c> that</c><01:26:09.699><c> they</c><01:26:10.060><c> were</c><01:26:10.199><c> not</c><01:26:10.359><c> going</c><01:26:10.520><c> to</c><01:26:10.659><c> transgress</c>

01:26:11.020 --> 01:26:12.720
in<01:26:11.380><c> addition</c><01:26:11.779><c> to</c><01:26:11.979><c> that</c><01:26:12.100><c> which</c><01:26:12.239><c> had</c><01:26:12.359><c> been</c><01:26:12.520><c> mentioned</c>

01:26:12.720 --> 01:26:14.979
before<01:26:13.239><c> and</c><01:26:14.199><c> so</c><01:26:14.359><c> therefore</c>

01:26:14.979 --> 01:26:16.739
was<01:26:15.619><c> poorly</c>

01:26:18.060 --> 01:26:18.560
transgressed

01:26:18.560 --> 01:26:20.779
Paul<01:26:18.880><c> has</c><01:26:19.180><c> this</c><01:26:19.880><c> statement</c><01:26:20.239><c> in</c><01:26:20.460><c> Romans</c>

01:26:20.779 --> 01:26:22.819
chapter<01:26:21.199><c> 6</c><01:26:21.920><c> and</c><01:26:22.279><c> to</c><01:26:22.439><c> choose</c><01:26:22.619><c> a</c>

01:26:22.819 --> 01:26:24.420
biblical<01:26:23.159><c> point</c>

01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:27.500
Paul<01:26:26.500><c> said</c>

01:26:27.560 --> 01:26:29.159
if<01:26:28.060><c> it</c><01:26:28.239><c> had</c><01:26:28.359><c> not</c><01:26:28.600><c> been</c><01:26:28.720><c> for</c><01:26:28.920><c> the</c>

01:26:29.159 --> 01:26:31.539
law<01:26:29.500><c> I</c><01:26:29.699><c> should</c><01:26:29.899><c> not</c><01:26:30.039><c> have</c><01:26:30.220><c> known</c><01:26:30.460><c> sin</c>

01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:33.000
I<01:26:32.420><c> should</c><01:26:32.619><c> have</c><01:26:32.880><c> not</c>

01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:35.100
known<01:26:33.159><c> what</c><01:26:33.359><c> is</c><01:26:33.539><c> to</c><01:26:33.739><c> covet</c><01:26:33.880><c> if</c><01:26:34.079><c> the</c><01:26:34.279><c> law</c><01:26:34.539><c> had</c><01:26:34.800><c> not</c>

01:26:35.100 --> 01:26:36.800
said<01:26:35.239><c> it</c><01:26:35.460><c> shall</c><01:26:35.680><c> not</c><01:26:35.979><c> covet</c>

01:26:37.279 --> 01:26:39.079
but<01:26:37.779><c> sin</c><01:26:38.279><c> and</c><01:26:38.680><c> notice</c><01:26:38.899><c> how</c>

01:26:39.079 --> 01:26:41.579
sin<01:26:39.199><c> is</c><01:26:39.420><c> depicted</c><01:26:39.819><c> here</c><01:26:40.100><c> as</c><01:26:40.260><c> an</c><01:26:40.500><c> activation</c>

01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:43.159
finding<01:26:42.659><c> opportunity</c>

01:26:43.159 --> 01:26:45.119
in<01:26:43.359><c> the</c><01:26:43.659><c> commandment</c>

01:26:45.119 --> 01:26:47.800
wrought<01:26:45.600><c> in</c><01:26:45.739><c> thee</c><01:26:45.920><c> all</c><01:26:46.460><c> kinds</c><01:26:46.859><c> of</c><01:26:47.159><c> covetousness</c>

01:26:47.800 --> 01:26:49.260
in<01:26:48.760><c> other</c><01:26:48.960><c> words</c>

01:26:49.260 --> 01:26:51.000
by<01:26:49.600><c> virtue</c><01:26:49.880><c> of</c><01:26:50.039><c> there</c><01:26:50.180><c> being</c><01:26:50.460><c> that</c><01:26:50.760><c> law</c>

01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:53.579
thou<01:26:51.340><c> shalt</c><01:26:51.779><c> not</c><01:26:52.020><c> covet</c><01:26:52.420><c> Paul</c><01:26:52.779><c> says</c>

01:26:53.579 --> 01:26:55.460
it<01:26:54.119><c> wrought</c><01:26:54.479><c> in</c><01:26:54.680><c> thee</c><01:26:54.960><c> all</c>

01:26:55.460 --> 01:26:57.039
kinds<01:26:55.819><c> of</c><01:26:56.060><c> covetousness</c>

01:26:57.039 --> 01:26:58.920
because<01:26:57.420><c> he</c><01:26:57.619><c> had</c><01:26:57.760><c> a</c><01:26:57.899><c> nature</c><01:26:58.140><c> characterized</c>

01:26:58.920 --> 01:27:00.760
by<01:26:59.279><c> the</c><01:26:59.399><c> simple</c><01:26:59.720><c> plus</c>

01:27:01.020 --> 01:27:02.960
he<01:27:01.680><c> had</c><01:27:02.300><c> a</c><01:27:02.819><c> law</c>

01:27:02.960 --> 01:27:05.840
he<01:27:03.220><c> had</c><01:27:03.460><c> a</c><01:27:03.840><c> strong</c><01:27:04.119><c> law</c><01:27:04.500><c> on</c><01:27:04.640><c> his</c><01:27:04.800><c> members</c>

01:27:06.119 --> 01:27:06.779
that

01:27:06.779 --> 01:27:09.060
reacted<01:27:07.460><c> to</c><01:27:07.739><c> this</c><01:27:07.979><c> law</c>

01:27:09.050 --> 01:27:11.180
and<01:27:09.380><c> sin</c><01:27:09.560><c> finding</c><01:27:09.920><c> occasion</c><01:27:10.359><c> in</c><01:27:10.539><c> the</c><01:27:10.720><c> commandment</c>

01:27:11.180 --> 01:27:13.680
wrought<01:27:11.399><c> in</c><01:27:11.619><c> thee</c><01:27:11.779><c> all</c><01:27:12.140><c> kinds</c><01:27:12.420><c> of</c><01:27:12.640><c> covetousness</c>

01:27:13.859 --> 01:27:15.659
for<01:27:14.239><c> apart</c><01:27:14.579><c> from</c><01:27:14.800><c> the</c><01:27:14.939><c> law</c><01:27:15.140><c> sin</c><01:27:15.380><c> lies</c>

01:27:15.659 --> 01:27:16.600
there

01:27:16.819 --> 01:27:19.260
it's<01:27:17.340><c> interesting</c><01:27:17.840><c> he</c><01:27:18.420><c> continues</c><01:27:18.899><c> to</c><01:27:19.159><c> say</c>

01:27:19.260 --> 01:27:21.199
I<01:27:19.399><c> was</c><01:27:19.659><c> once</c><01:27:19.899><c> alive</c><01:27:20.180><c> apart</c><01:27:20.539><c> from</c><01:27:20.720><c> the</c><01:27:20.880><c> law</c>

01:27:21.199 --> 01:27:23.140
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01:27:23.140 --> 01:27:24.939
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01:27:25.159 --> 01:27:27.520
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01:27:27.520 --> 01:27:29.539
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01:27:29.539 --> 01:27:31.220
he's<01:27:30.260><c> using</c><01:27:30.460><c> the</c><01:27:30.760><c> same</c>

01:27:31.220 --> 01:27:33.140
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01:27:33.140 --> 01:27:35.100
in<01:27:33.380><c> Genesis</c><01:27:33.560><c> chapter</c><01:27:33.899><c> 3</c>

01:27:35.100 --> 01:27:37.340
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01:27:37.340 --> 01:27:39.239
it<01:27:37.520><c> would</c><01:27:37.720><c> be</c><01:27:37.880><c> very</c><01:27:38.199><c> useful</c><01:27:38.460><c> if</c><01:27:38.659><c> you</c><01:27:38.760><c> could</c><01:27:39.020><c> read</c>

01:27:39.239 --> 01:27:41.680
through<01:27:39.600><c> a</c><01:27:40.159><c> little</c><01:27:40.399><c> handout</c><01:27:40.779><c> carefully</c>

01:27:41.680 --> 01:27:43.180
on<01:27:42.119><c> clean</c><01:27:42.340><c> flesh</c>

01:27:43.039 --> 01:27:44.199
inherited<01:27:43.340><c> alienation</c>

01:27:44.199 --> 01:27:46.920
and<01:27:45.060><c> also</c><01:27:45.420><c> look</c><01:27:45.659><c> up</c><01:27:45.840><c> what</c><01:27:46.039><c> the</c><01:27:46.260><c> figure</c><01:27:46.460><c> of</c><01:27:46.720><c> autonomy</c>

01:27:46.920 --> 01:27:48.939
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01:27:48.939 --> 01:27:51.060
the<01:27:49.159><c> metonym</c><01:27:49.420><c> of</c><01:27:49.699><c> useless</c><01:27:50.000><c> sin</c><01:27:50.380><c> in</c><01:27:50.640><c> Romans</c>

01:27:51.060 --> 01:27:53.140
and<01:27:51.939><c> in</c><01:27:52.159><c> particular</c>

01:27:53.140 --> 01:27:54.539
in<01:27:53.439><c> 2nd</c><01:27:53.539><c> Corinthians</c><01:27:53.840><c> chapter</c><01:27:54.180><c> 5</c>

01:27:54.539 --> 01:27:55.699
so<01:27:54.819><c> it's</c><01:27:55.060><c> an</c><01:27:55.199><c> autonomy</c>

01:27:55.699 --> 01:27:58.739
a<01:27:56.579><c> figure</c><01:27:56.819><c> of</c><01:27:56.979><c> speech</c><01:27:57.239><c> where</c><01:27:57.579><c> the</c><01:27:57.880><c> effect</c><01:27:58.220><c> is</c><01:27:58.520><c> placed</c>

01:27:58.739 --> 01:27:59.659
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01:27:59.659 --> 01:28:02.659
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01:28:02.659 --> 01:28:04.739
in<01:28:02.819><c> Romans</c><01:28:03.220><c> autonomy</c>

01:28:05.039 --> 01:28:07.500
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01:28:07.640 --> 01:28:09.520
it's<01:28:08.199><c> different</c><01:28:08.560><c> as</c><01:28:08.819><c> far</c><01:28:09.060><c> as</c><01:28:09.220><c> you</c><01:28:09.359><c> have</c>

01:28:09.520 --> 01:28:11.479
the<01:28:09.779><c> effect</c><01:28:09.979><c> placed</c><01:28:10.260><c> with</c><01:28:10.479><c> a</c><01:28:10.640><c> cause</c>

01:28:12.159 --> 01:28:13.819
any<01:28:12.720><c> other</c><01:28:13.039><c> comments?</c>

01:28:14.039 --> 01:28:15.819
just<01:28:14.560><c> going</c><01:28:14.760><c> back</c><01:28:15.060><c> to</c>

01:28:15.819 --> 01:28:16.760
Genesis<01:28:16.340><c> again</c>

01:28:16.760 --> 01:28:19.319
I<01:28:17.319><c> think</c><01:28:17.560><c> there's</c><01:28:18.140><c> indication</c><01:28:18.739><c> that</c><01:28:18.979><c> it</c><01:28:19.199><c> was</c>

01:28:19.319 --> 01:28:21.500
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01:28:22.659 --> 01:28:23.779
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01:28:23.779 --> 01:28:25.560
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01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:27.680
verse<01:28:26.340><c> 5</c><01:28:26.699><c> of</c><01:28:26.920><c> chapter</c><01:28:27.159><c> 3</c>

01:28:27.680 --> 01:28:29.500
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01:28:29.500 --> 01:28:31.319
that<01:28:29.619><c> you</c><01:28:29.800><c> eat</c><01:28:29.960><c> thereof</c><01:28:30.619><c> then</c><01:28:30.960><c> your</c>

01:28:31.319 --> 01:28:33.760
eyes<01:28:31.619><c> will</c><01:28:31.859><c> be</c><01:28:32.100><c> opened</c><01:28:32.380><c> and</c><01:28:32.659><c> you</c><01:28:32.699><c> will</c><01:28:32.979><c> then</c>

01:28:33.859 --> 01:28:35.619
discern<01:28:34.420><c> good</c><01:28:34.880><c> and</c><01:28:35.239><c> evil</c>

01:28:35.619 --> 01:28:37.640
and<01:28:36.479><c> this</c><01:28:36.479><c> enlightened</c>

01:28:37.640 --> 01:28:39.220
the<01:28:38.420><c> propensities</c>

01:28:39.220 --> 01:28:41.060
as<01:28:39.779><c> you</c><01:28:40.039><c> said</c><01:28:40.220><c> the</c><01:28:40.380><c> latent</c><01:28:40.579><c> propensities</c>

01:28:41.060 --> 01:28:43.460
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01:28:43.460 --> 01:28:45.699
it<01:28:43.920><c> says</c><01:28:44.100><c> and</c><01:28:44.500><c> their</c><01:28:44.720><c> eyes</c><01:28:45.020><c> were</c>

01:28:45.699 --> 01:28:46.899
both<01:28:45.979><c> open</c>

01:28:47.420 --> 01:28:50.119
so<01:28:47.899><c> their</c><01:28:48.119><c> eyes</c><01:28:48.279><c> would</c><01:28:48.439><c> open</c><01:28:48.739><c> after</c><01:28:49.100><c> they</c><01:28:49.279><c> had</c><01:28:49.380><c> partaken</c>

01:28:50.439 --> 01:28:51.779
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01:28:51.779 --> 01:28:53.420
that<01:28:51.899><c> they</c><01:28:52.039><c> realised</c><01:28:52.460><c> that</c>

01:28:53.420 --> 01:28:55.560
they<01:28:53.640><c> were</c><01:28:53.880><c> naked</c><01:28:54.539><c> before</c><01:28:55.119><c> that</c><01:28:55.380><c> time</c>

01:28:55.560 --> 01:28:57.079
they<01:28:55.680><c> had</c><01:28:55.880><c> no</c><01:28:56.039><c> consciousness</c><01:28:56.560><c> of</c><01:28:56.760><c> being</c><01:28:56.939><c> naked</c>

01:28:57.079 --> 01:28:59.720
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01:29:00.720 --> 01:29:02.180
that<01:29:01.199><c> sin</c>

01:29:02.699 --> 01:29:03.180
defiled

01:29:03.180 --> 01:29:05.979
the<01:29:04.399><c> man</c><01:29:04.640><c> and</c><01:29:04.739><c> the</c><01:29:04.899><c> woman</c>

01:29:07.100 --> 01:29:09.079
Adam<01:29:07.779><c> wrote</c><01:29:08.039><c> this</c><01:29:08.380><c> law</c>

01:29:09.079 --> 01:29:11.140
was<01:29:09.579><c> a</c><01:29:09.979><c> judge</c><01:29:10.319><c> unworthy</c>

01:29:11.140 --> 01:29:12.779
of<01:29:11.340><c> immortality</c>

01:29:12.779 --> 01:29:14.939
was<01:29:13.260><c> sentenced</c><01:29:13.579><c> to</c><01:29:13.819><c> return</c><01:29:14.199><c> to</c><01:29:14.380><c> the</c><01:29:14.619><c> ground</c>

01:29:14.939 --> 01:29:16.840
from<01:29:15.119><c> whence</c><01:29:15.380><c> he</c><01:29:15.439><c> was</c><01:29:15.720><c> taken</c>

01:29:16.880 --> 01:29:19.439
a<01:29:17.220><c> sentence</c><01:29:17.680><c> which</c><01:29:18.420><c> defiled</c>

01:29:19.439 --> 01:29:20.960
and<01:29:20.579><c> became</c>

01:29:20.960 --> 01:29:22.739
a<01:29:21.340><c> physical</c><01:29:21.699><c> law</c><01:29:22.020><c> of</c><01:29:22.180><c> his</c><01:29:22.359><c> being</c>

01:29:22.739 --> 01:29:25.420
and<01:29:23.420><c> was</c><01:29:23.680><c> transmitted</c><01:29:24.100><c> to</c><01:29:24.300><c> all</c><01:29:24.439><c> his</c><01:29:24.640><c> prosperity</c>

01:29:25.420 --> 01:29:27.340
there<01:29:26.500><c> certainly</c><01:29:26.840><c> is</c><01:29:27.180><c> a</c>

01:29:27.340 --> 01:29:29.039
wealth<01:29:27.600><c> of</c><01:29:27.840><c> meaning</c><01:29:28.359><c> in</c>

01:29:29.039 --> 01:29:31.079
proposition<01:29:29.439><c> 5</c><01:29:29.859><c> of</c><01:29:30.060><c> our</c><01:29:30.239><c> statement</c><01:29:30.579><c> of</c><01:29:30.819><c> faith</c>

01:29:31.079 --> 01:29:33.460
and<01:29:31.960><c> if</c><01:29:32.199><c> you</c><01:29:32.340><c> notice</c><01:29:32.500><c> if</c><01:29:32.659><c> you</c><01:29:32.819><c> give</c><01:29:33.020><c> that</c>

01:29:33.460 --> 01:29:35.020
statement<01:29:33.960><c> full</c><01:29:34.479><c> weight</c>

01:29:35.020 --> 01:29:37.180
then<01:29:36.039><c> you</c><01:29:36.140><c> don't</c><01:29:36.420><c> find</c><01:29:36.699><c> problems</c>

01:29:37.180 --> 01:29:39.359
in<01:29:37.479><c> inheritance</c><01:29:37.819><c> and</c><01:29:38.039><c> alienation</c>

01:29:39.359 --> 01:29:41.260
nor<01:29:39.720><c> do</c><01:29:40.020><c> you</c><01:29:40.020><c> find</c><01:29:40.340><c> problems</c><01:29:40.859><c> with</c>

01:29:41.260 --> 01:29:42.520
clean<01:29:41.579><c> flesh</c>

01:29:45.260 --> 01:29:47.239
Ron,<01:29:46.760><c> I</c><01:29:46.920><c> haven't</c>

01:29:47.699 --> 01:29:49.079
I'm<01:29:48.119><c> not</c><01:29:48.420><c> completely</c><01:29:48.859><c> committed</c>

01:29:49.079 --> 01:29:51.039
for<01:29:49.359><c> the</c><01:29:49.520><c> bottom</c><01:29:49.739><c> pamphlet</c>

01:29:51.060 --> 01:29:53.520
but<01:29:51.380><c> I</c><01:29:51.760><c> understand</c><01:29:52.279><c> in</c><01:29:52.600><c> some</c><01:29:52.800><c> respect</c>

01:29:53.520 --> 01:29:55.340
he<01:29:54.380><c> brought</c><01:29:54.640><c> out</c><01:29:54.880><c> in</c><01:29:55.079><c> his</c>

01:29:55.340 --> 01:29:57.500
treatise<01:29:55.699><c> there</c><01:29:55.920><c> that</c><01:29:56.439><c> a</c><01:29:56.960><c> natural</c>

01:29:57.500 --> 01:29:59.159
implication<01:29:58.239><c> of</c><01:29:58.479><c> a</c><01:29:58.680><c> clean</c><01:29:58.859><c> flesh</c>

01:29:59.159 --> 01:30:00.739
view<01:29:59.420><c> is</c><01:29:59.899><c> to</c><01:30:00.220><c> believe</c><01:30:00.460><c> that</c>

01:30:00.739 --> 01:30:03.659
superhuman<01:30:01.380><c> devils</c>

01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:07.659
believe<01:30:05.560><c> that</c><01:30:05.840><c> it's</c><01:30:06.000><c> in</c><01:30:06.140><c> some</c><01:30:06.340><c> kind</c><01:30:06.539><c> of</c>

01:30:08.500 --> 01:30:09.619
external<01:30:09.060><c> temperature</c>

01:30:09.619 --> 01:30:10.899
I<01:30:10.220><c> might</c>

01:30:10.899 --> 01:30:12.159
think<01:30:11.399><c> he</c><01:30:11.600><c> did</c><01:30:11.699><c> anyway</c>

01:30:12.159 --> 01:30:14.720
I'll<01:30:12.680><c> go</c><01:30:12.819><c> back</c><01:30:13.220><c> and</c><01:30:13.399><c> check</c><01:30:13.539><c> the</c><01:30:13.739><c> context</c><01:30:14.119><c> there</c>

01:30:14.720 --> 01:30:15.560
common

01:30:16.180 --> 01:30:18.340
I<01:30:16.739><c> was</c><01:30:16.880><c> wondering</c><01:30:17.039><c> how</c><01:30:17.180><c> that</c><01:30:17.420><c> worked</c><01:30:17.659><c> with</c><01:30:17.939><c> regards</c>

01:30:18.340 --> 01:30:20.920
it's<01:30:18.800><c> actually</c><01:30:19.020><c> been</c><01:30:19.239><c> argued</c><01:30:19.460><c> for</c><01:30:19.840><c> both</c>

01:30:20.920 --> 01:30:23.159
inherited<01:30:21.720><c> alienation</c><01:30:22.520><c> becomes</c><01:30:22.880><c> like</c>

01:30:23.159 --> 01:30:25.340
the<01:30:23.340><c> devil</c><01:30:23.560><c> because</c><01:30:23.939><c> you</c><01:30:24.140><c> blame</c><01:30:24.279><c> everything</c><01:30:24.600><c> on</c><01:30:24.800><c> your</c><01:30:24.920><c> nature</c>

01:30:25.340 --> 01:30:27.460
and<01:30:26.220><c> you</c><01:30:26.340><c> say</c><01:30:26.359><c> well</c><01:30:26.600><c> I</c><01:30:26.819><c> sin</c><01:30:26.880><c> because</c>

01:30:27.460 --> 01:30:29.220
my<01:30:27.699><c> nature</c><01:30:27.979><c> inevitably</c><01:30:28.439><c> made</c><01:30:28.680><c> me</c><01:30:28.920><c> sin</c>

01:30:29.220 --> 01:30:30.699
and<01:30:30.159><c> so</c>

01:30:30.699 --> 01:30:33.560
a<01:30:31.399><c> superhuman</c><01:30:32.039><c> devil</c><01:30:32.340><c> so</c><01:30:32.539><c> to</c><01:30:32.739><c> speak</c><01:30:32.920><c> is</c><01:30:33.140><c> sometimes</c>

01:30:33.560 --> 01:30:35.260
positive<01:30:34.319><c> or</c>

01:30:35.260 --> 01:30:37.260
condemnation<01:30:36.199><c> in</c><01:30:36.380><c> heaven</c>

01:30:37.260 --> 01:30:39.399
this<01:30:37.819><c> position</c><01:30:38.140><c> is</c><01:30:38.319><c> our</c><01:30:38.460><c> own</c><01:30:38.699><c> believer</c>

01:30:39.399 --> 01:30:41.340
Brother<01:30:40.119><c> Barling</c><01:30:40.479><c> did</c><01:30:40.739><c> say</c><01:30:41.000><c> this</c>

01:30:41.340 --> 01:30:43.699
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01:30:43.699 --> 01:30:45.779
that<01:30:44.060><c> having</c><01:30:44.340><c> disposed</c><01:30:44.920><c> of</c>

01:30:45.779 --> 01:30:47.760
the<01:30:45.939><c> devil</c><01:30:46.100><c> of</c><01:30:46.380><c> orthodoxy</c>

01:30:47.760 --> 01:30:49.420
they<01:30:48.100><c> had</c><01:30:48.420><c> made</c>

01:30:49.420 --> 01:30:51.539
their<01:30:49.659><c> own</c><01:30:49.899><c> devil</c><01:30:50.159><c> the</c><01:30:50.659><c> reason</c><01:30:50.859><c> for</c><01:30:51.060><c> that</c><01:30:51.319><c> call</c>

01:30:51.539 --> 01:30:53.760
was<01:30:52.060><c> their</c><01:30:52.380><c> view</c><01:30:52.640><c> of</c><01:30:52.899><c> justice</c>

01:30:53.760 --> 01:30:55.579
a<01:30:54.500><c> lot</c><01:30:54.739><c> of</c><01:30:54.859><c> people</c><01:30:55.159><c> have</c><01:30:55.420><c> made</c>

01:30:55.579 --> 01:30:58.039
a<01:30:55.979><c> mistake</c><01:30:56.000><c> of</c><01:30:56.279><c> viewing</c><01:30:56.600><c> ransom</c><01:30:57.300><c> literally</c>

01:30:58.039 --> 01:30:59.760
and<01:30:59.039><c> they</c><01:30:59.140><c> had</c><01:30:59.279><c> to</c><01:30:59.420><c> have</c><01:30:59.600><c> a</c>

01:30:59.760 --> 01:31:01.600
ransom<01:31:00.140><c> paid</c><01:31:00.479><c> to</c><01:31:00.739><c> somebody</c>

01:31:01.600 --> 01:31:03.939
who<01:31:02.039><c> received</c><01:31:02.359><c> the</c><01:31:02.600><c> ransom</c><01:31:02.880><c> price?</c>

01:31:05.180 --> 01:31:06.039
if<01:31:05.279><c> you're</c><01:31:05.479><c> a</c><01:31:05.659><c> JW</c>

01:31:06.039 --> 01:31:07.220
it<01:31:06.260><c> might</c><01:31:06.359><c> be</c><01:31:06.500><c> the</c><01:31:06.659><c> devil</c>

01:31:07.220 --> 01:31:09.479
if<01:31:08.119><c> you</c><01:31:08.319><c> pay</c><01:31:08.500><c> the</c><01:31:08.699><c> ransom</c><01:31:09.039><c> price</c>

01:31:09.479 --> 01:31:11.199
as<01:31:09.720><c> Jesus</c><01:31:10.020><c> did</c><01:31:10.220><c> with</c><01:31:10.359><c> his</c><01:31:10.539><c> body</c>

01:31:11.199 --> 01:31:13.800
then<01:31:12.119><c> you</c><01:31:12.260><c> can't</c><01:31:12.640><c> pay</c><01:31:12.819><c> a</c><01:31:12.960><c> ransom</c><01:31:13.199><c> and</c><01:31:13.380><c> get</c><01:31:13.560><c> back</c>

01:31:13.800 --> 01:31:15.960
what<01:31:14.039><c> you</c><01:31:14.560><c> paid</c><01:31:14.819><c> for</c>

01:31:15.960 --> 01:31:17.640
in<01:31:16.500><c> other</c><01:31:16.600><c> words</c><01:31:16.800><c> if</c><01:31:17.020><c> Christ</c><01:31:17.300><c> died</c>

01:31:17.640 --> 01:31:19.739
and<01:31:17.779><c> gave</c><01:31:17.979><c> his</c><01:31:18.180><c> body</c><01:31:18.539><c> a</c><01:31:18.760><c> ransom</c><01:31:19.039><c> for</c><01:31:19.300><c> many</c>

01:31:19.739 --> 01:31:21.899
the<01:31:20.619><c> JWs</c><01:31:21.359><c> understanding</c>

01:31:21.899 --> 01:31:23.899
the<01:31:22.140><c> ransom</c><01:31:22.579><c> idea</c><01:31:23.020><c> literally</c>

01:31:23.899 --> 01:31:25.800
have<01:31:24.539><c> the</c><01:31:24.680><c> difficulty</c><01:31:25.180><c> then</c><01:31:25.439><c> Jesus</c>

01:31:25.800 --> 01:31:27.960
can<01:31:26.000><c> never</c><01:31:26.220><c> take</c><01:31:26.500><c> back</c><01:31:26.699><c> that</c><01:31:26.960><c> body</c><01:31:27.180><c> because</c><01:31:27.560><c> he</c><01:31:27.739><c> paid</c>

01:31:27.960 --> 01:31:29.979
a<01:31:28.140><c> ransom</c><01:31:28.380><c> price</c><01:31:28.699><c> for</c><01:31:28.819><c> his</c><01:31:29.060><c> body</c>

01:31:29.979 --> 01:31:31.779
so<01:31:30.880><c> Pastor</c><01:31:31.399><c> Russell</c>

01:31:31.779 --> 01:31:34.300
speculated<01:31:32.319><c> that</c><01:31:32.539><c> the</c><01:31:32.680><c> body</c><01:31:32.859><c> was</c><01:31:33.220><c> dissolved</c><01:31:33.520><c> in</c><01:31:33.760><c> gases</c>

01:31:34.300 --> 01:31:36.060
to<01:31:35.220><c> be</c><01:31:35.380><c> preserved</c><01:31:35.800><c> as</c>

01:31:36.060 --> 01:31:37.880
a<01:31:36.180><c> memorial</c><01:31:36.579><c> in</c><01:31:36.880><c> millennial</c><01:31:37.319><c> period</c>

01:31:37.880 --> 01:31:39.859
but<01:31:38.600><c> their</c><01:31:38.859><c> problem</c><01:31:39.220><c> came</c><01:31:39.500><c> because</c>

01:31:39.859 --> 01:31:42.220
they<01:31:40.380><c> viewed</c><01:31:40.380><c> ransom</c><01:31:40.920><c> in</c><01:31:41.420><c> strictly</c>

01:31:42.220 --> 01:31:43.880
a<01:31:42.819><c> legalistic</c><01:31:43.340><c> fashion</c>

01:31:43.880 --> 01:31:45.840
a<01:31:44.239><c> ransom</c><01:31:44.619><c> paid</c><01:31:44.899><c> to</c><01:31:45.180><c> someone</c>

01:31:45.840 --> 01:31:48.119
therefore<01:31:46.880><c> there</c><01:31:47.079><c> was</c><01:31:47.300><c> a</c><01:31:47.520><c> price</c><01:31:47.779><c> required</c>

01:31:48.560 --> 01:31:50.180
in<01:31:49.119><c> plain</c><01:31:49.279><c> flesh</c><01:31:49.640><c> justice</c>

01:31:50.180 --> 01:31:51.180
but<01:31:50.439><c> who</c><01:31:50.619><c> is</c><01:31:50.779><c> justice?</c>

01:31:51.180 --> 01:31:54.060
you<01:31:51.539><c> see</c><01:31:52.859><c> how</c><01:31:53.079><c> the</c><01:31:53.220><c> legal</c><01:31:53.479><c> terminology</c>

01:31:54.060 --> 01:31:55.560
gets<01:31:54.300><c> you</c><01:31:54.539><c> into</c><01:31:54.819><c> paying</c><01:31:55.140><c> something</c>

01:31:55.560 --> 01:31:56.159
to<01:31:55.819><c> somebody</c>

01:31:56.159 --> 01:31:57.420
well<01:31:56.619><c> who</c><01:31:56.819><c> is</c><01:31:56.960><c> the</c><01:31:57.119><c> somebody?</c>

01:31:57.760 --> 01:31:59.420
it's<01:31:58.239><c> not</c><01:31:58.359><c> the</c><01:31:58.520><c> orthodox</c><01:31:58.960><c> devil</c>

01:31:59.420 --> 01:32:01.859
so<01:31:59.920><c> I</c><01:32:00.020><c> think</c><01:32:00.220><c> that's</c><01:32:00.479><c> probably</c><01:32:00.680><c> his</c><01:32:00.939><c> remarks</c>

01:32:03.739 --> 01:32:05.520
what's<01:32:04.380><c> the</c><01:32:04.600><c> position</c>

01:32:05.520 --> 01:32:06.880
of<01:32:05.859><c> the</c><01:32:06.079><c> Christian</c>

01:32:06.880 --> 01:32:09.500
with<01:32:07.199><c> respect</c><01:32:08.460><c> to</c><01:32:08.760><c> that</c><01:32:09.060><c> servant</c>

01:32:09.500 --> 01:32:11.220
and<01:32:09.899><c> the</c><01:32:10.220><c> devil?</c>

01:32:13.020 --> 01:32:13.720
well<01:32:13.300><c> speaking</c>

01:32:13.720 --> 01:32:15.159
through<01:32:14.180><c> the</c><01:32:14.420><c> servant</c>

01:32:17.760 --> 01:32:19.039
the<01:32:18.399><c> servant</c>

01:32:19.039 --> 01:32:20.859
in<01:32:19.140><c> scripture</c><01:32:20.039><c> is</c>

01:32:20.859 --> 01:32:23.800
used<01:32:22.060><c> as</c><01:32:22.399><c> a</c><01:32:22.520><c> symbol</c><01:32:22.739><c> of</c><01:32:22.979><c> sin</c>

01:32:24.000 --> 01:32:25.539
it's<01:32:24.640><c> used</c><01:32:24.760><c> that</c><01:32:25.100><c> way</c>

01:32:25.539 --> 01:32:26.439
only?

01:32:26.720 --> 01:32:28.960
yes<01:32:27.180><c> I'll</c><01:32:27.659><c> give</c><01:32:27.800><c> you</c><01:32:27.979><c> two</c><01:32:28.079><c> examples</c><01:32:28.539><c> of</c><01:32:28.800><c> where</c>

01:32:28.960 --> 01:32:30.819
that<01:32:29.699><c> is</c><01:32:30.220><c> the</c><01:32:30.420><c> case</c>

01:32:30.819 --> 01:32:33.539
well<01:32:31.319><c> I'm</c><01:32:31.600><c> aware</c><01:32:31.760><c> of</c><01:32:31.920><c> that</c><01:32:32.140><c> but</c><01:32:32.340><c> I</c><01:32:32.539><c> said</c><01:32:32.659><c> only</c>

01:32:33.600 --> 01:32:35.100
well<01:32:34.260><c> the</c><01:32:34.500><c> servant</c><01:32:34.760><c> is</c>

01:32:35.100 --> 01:32:37.039
connected<01:32:35.439><c> in</c><01:32:35.659><c> one</c><01:32:35.920><c> figurative</c><01:32:36.279><c> book</c><01:32:36.420><c> of</c><01:32:36.579><c> the</c><01:32:36.720><c> Bible</c>

01:32:37.039 --> 01:32:39.359
with<01:32:38.039><c> the</c><01:32:38.220><c> devil</c><01:32:38.539><c> in</c><01:32:38.859><c> Revelation</c>

01:32:39.359 --> 01:32:41.100
but<01:32:40.399><c> that's</c><01:32:40.699><c> because</c>

01:32:41.100 --> 01:32:43.060
that<01:32:41.479><c> section</c><01:32:41.760><c> is</c><01:32:41.979><c> dealing</c><01:32:42.079><c> with</c><01:32:42.300><c> an</c><01:32:42.500><c> apocalyptic</c>

01:32:43.060 --> 01:32:44.979
section<01:32:43.479><c> of</c><01:32:44.479><c> scripture</c>

01:32:44.760 --> 01:32:46.340
prophetic<01:32:45.079><c> section</c><01:32:45.560><c> using</c><01:32:45.899><c> symbol</c>

01:32:46.340 --> 01:32:48.680
yes<01:32:47.039><c> I</c><01:32:47.239><c> am</c>

01:32:48.680 --> 01:32:49.800
quite<01:32:49.039><c> sure</c>

01:32:49.800 --> 01:32:51.500
well<01:32:50.140><c> that's</c><01:32:51.500><c> real</c>

01:32:51.500 --> 01:32:52.920
let's<01:32:51.979><c> speak</c><01:32:52.180><c> so</c>

01:33:17.180 --> 01:33:17.899
which

01:33:17.899 --> 01:33:19.899
the<01:33:18.560><c> whole</c><01:33:19.039><c> world</c>

01:33:19.899 --> 01:33:22.359
he<01:33:20.600><c> was</c><01:33:20.899><c> cast</c><01:33:21.220><c> out</c><01:33:21.579><c> of</c><01:33:21.760><c> the</c><01:33:22.000><c> earth</c>

01:33:22.359 --> 01:33:25.579
and<01:33:22.659><c> his</c><01:33:22.819><c> angels</c><01:33:23.180><c> were</c><01:33:23.560><c> cast</c><01:33:23.899><c> out</c><01:33:24.239><c> with</c><01:33:24.439><c> him</c>

01:33:25.579 --> 01:33:26.619
and<01:33:26.020><c> I</c>

01:33:26.619 --> 01:33:28.659
heard<01:33:26.899><c> a</c><01:33:27.220><c> loud</c><01:33:27.460><c> voice</c><01:33:27.859><c> saying</c><01:33:28.140><c> in</c><01:33:28.300><c> heaven</c>

01:33:29.140 --> 01:33:30.819
now<01:33:29.619><c> has</c><01:33:29.840><c> come</c><01:33:30.000><c> salvation</c>

01:33:30.819 --> 01:33:31.880
and<01:33:31.359><c> strength</c>

01:33:31.880 --> 01:33:33.800
and<01:33:32.579><c> the</c><01:33:32.800><c> kingdom</c><01:33:33.020><c> of</c><01:33:33.260><c> our</c><01:33:33.479><c> God</c>

01:33:33.800 --> 01:33:36.039
and<01:33:34.100><c> the</c><01:33:34.340><c> power</c><01:33:34.619><c> of</c><01:33:34.899><c> his</c><01:33:35.239><c> Christ</c>

01:33:36.039 --> 01:33:38.300
for<01:33:36.380><c> the</c><01:33:36.659><c> accuser</c><01:33:37.220><c> of</c><01:33:37.579><c> our</c><01:33:37.939><c> brethren</c>

01:33:38.300 --> 01:33:39.699
is<01:33:38.680><c> cast</c><01:33:39.140><c> down</c>

01:33:39.699 --> 01:33:42.380
which<01:33:40.340><c> accused</c><01:33:40.960><c> them</c><01:33:41.279><c> before</c><01:33:41.680><c> God</c>

01:33:42.380 --> 01:33:44.260
day<01:33:43.140><c> and</c><01:33:43.800><c> night</c>

01:33:44.260 --> 01:33:46.100
is<01:33:44.859><c> that</c><01:33:45.060><c> not</c><01:33:45.420><c> the</c><01:33:45.579><c> same</c>

01:33:46.100 --> 01:33:48.239
devil<01:33:46.579><c> or</c><01:33:47.239><c> Satan</c><01:33:47.560><c> that</c><01:33:47.920><c> appeared</c>

01:33:48.239 --> 01:33:50.140
to<01:33:48.560><c> Jesus</c><01:33:48.760><c> in</c><01:33:49.060><c> Luke</c><01:33:49.220><c> chapter</c><01:33:49.619><c> 4</c>

01:33:50.140 --> 01:33:52.060
well<01:33:50.800><c> maybe</c><01:33:51.119><c> we</c><01:33:51.340><c> should</c><01:33:51.619><c> deal</c><01:33:51.840><c> with</c>

01:33:52.060 --> 01:33:54.199
the<01:33:52.220><c> two</c><01:33:52.340><c> pastors</c><01:33:52.640><c> of</c><01:33:52.800><c> the</c><01:33:53.039><c> consideration</c>

01:33:54.260 --> 01:33:57.000
Genesis<01:33:54.779><c> chapter</c><01:33:55.140><c> 3</c><01:33:55.479><c> and</c><01:33:55.659><c> Revelation</c><01:33:55.979><c> chapter</c><01:33:56.319><c> 12</c>

01:33:57.000 --> 01:33:58.359
I'm<01:33:57.779><c> not</c><01:33:57.920><c> sure</c><01:33:58.039><c> what</c><01:33:58.220><c> your</c>

01:33:58.359 --> 01:33:59.479
point<01:33:58.520><c> of</c><01:33:58.720><c> connection</c><01:33:59.000><c> is</c>

01:33:59.479 --> 01:34:02.039
are<01:33:59.939><c> you</c><01:34:00.159><c> saying</c><01:34:00.279><c> that</c><01:34:00.520><c> the</c><01:34:00.680><c> servant</c><01:34:00.880><c> of</c><01:34:01.119><c> Genesis</c><01:34:01.380><c> chapter</c><01:34:01.720><c> 3</c>

01:34:02.039 --> 01:34:04.260
is<01:34:02.319><c> the</c><01:34:02.460><c> same</c><01:34:02.680><c> servant</c><01:34:03.260><c> of</c><01:34:03.920><c> Revelation</c>

01:34:04.260 --> 01:34:05.539
chapter<01:34:04.539><c> 12</c>

01:34:06.000 --> 01:34:08.000
yes<01:34:06.279><c> nothing</c><01:34:06.800><c> to</c><01:34:07.079><c> watch</c>

01:34:08.140 --> 01:34:09.899
because<01:34:08.420><c> I</c><01:34:08.760><c> don't</c><01:34:09.060><c> see</c><01:34:09.319><c> Revelation</c>

01:34:09.899 --> 01:34:11.260
in<01:34:10.159><c> the</c><01:34:10.300><c> like</c><01:34:10.439><c> that</c><01:34:10.600><c> you</c><01:34:10.859><c> see</c><01:34:11.020><c> it</c>

01:34:11.260 --> 01:34:13.319
I<01:34:11.319><c> see</c><01:34:11.579><c> it</c><01:34:11.739><c> as</c><01:34:11.979><c> an</c><01:34:12.260><c> account</c><01:34:12.640><c> of</c><01:34:13.039><c> what</c>

01:34:13.319 --> 01:34:15.760
has<01:34:13.760><c> transpired</c><01:34:14.380><c> in</c><01:34:14.760><c> the</c><01:34:14.819><c> earth</c>

01:34:16.300 --> 01:34:17.420
well<01:34:16.859><c> do</c><01:34:17.119><c> you</c><01:34:17.260><c> take</c>

01:34:17.420 --> 01:34:19.159
this<01:34:17.720><c> account</c><01:34:18.000><c> to</c><01:34:18.180><c> be</c><01:34:18.359><c> literal</c><01:34:18.619><c> then</c><01:34:18.920><c> or</c>

01:34:19.159 --> 01:34:20.319
figurative

01:34:20.939 --> 01:34:23.300
Revelation<01:34:21.500><c> chapter</c><01:34:21.979><c> 12</c><01:34:22.279><c> is</c><01:34:22.500><c> literal</c><01:34:22.800><c> language</c>

01:34:23.300 --> 01:34:24.439
or<01:34:23.560><c> figurative</c><01:34:23.880><c> language</c>

01:34:24.439 --> 01:34:27.300
well<01:34:24.739><c> when</c><01:34:24.880><c> it</c><01:34:25.039><c> comes</c><01:34:25.300><c> to</c><01:34:25.479><c> the</c><01:34:25.600><c> devil</c><01:34:26.000><c> you</c><01:34:26.340><c> see</c><01:34:26.619><c> his</c><01:34:26.840><c> activity</c>

01:34:27.300 --> 01:34:29.260
in<01:34:27.600><c> the</c><01:34:27.800><c> scripture</c><01:34:28.279><c> and</c><01:34:28.659><c> Satan</c>

01:34:29.260 --> 01:34:31.640
he<01:34:30.380><c> is</c><01:34:30.720><c> the</c><01:34:30.720><c> future</c><01:34:30.960><c> of</c><01:34:31.220><c> the</c><01:34:31.399><c> brethren</c>

01:34:31.640 --> 01:34:33.359
I<01:34:31.939><c> see</c><01:34:32.260><c> sure</c><01:34:32.520><c> these</c><01:34:32.779><c> are</c><01:34:32.960><c> the</c><01:34:33.020><c> reals</c>

01:34:33.359 --> 01:34:33.840
to<01:34:33.539><c> me</c>

01:34:33.840 --> 01:34:37.359
is<01:34:34.520><c> the</c><01:34:34.680><c> language</c><01:34:35.079><c> here</c><01:34:35.319><c> in</c><01:34:35.500><c> chapter</c><01:34:35.680><c> 12</c><01:34:36.060><c> a</c><01:34:36.399><c> literal</c><01:34:36.619><c> description</c><01:34:37.060><c> of</c><01:34:37.239><c> what</c>

01:34:37.359 --> 01:34:38.659
he<01:34:37.500><c> is</c><01:34:37.600><c> like</c>

01:34:38.739 --> 01:34:39.300
Satan

01:34:39.300 --> 01:34:41.199
yes<01:34:40.119><c> very</c><01:34:40.579><c> much</c><01:34:40.880><c> so</c>

01:34:41.199 --> 01:34:43.439
you<01:34:42.039><c> believe</c><01:34:42.220><c> this</c><01:34:42.579><c> absolutely</c><01:34:43.020><c> literally</c>

01:34:43.439 --> 01:34:45.279
or<01:34:43.720><c> because</c><01:34:44.279><c> the</c><01:34:45.039><c> Satan</c>

01:34:45.279 --> 01:34:47.520
that<01:34:45.619><c> came</c><01:34:45.800><c> or</c><01:34:46.159><c> the</c><01:34:46.340><c> devil</c><01:34:46.479><c> that</c><01:34:46.779><c> came</c><01:34:47.000><c> to</c><01:34:47.079><c> Jesus</c>

01:34:47.520 --> 01:34:48.039
Christ

01:34:48.039 --> 01:34:51.279
we<01:34:48.739><c> should</c><01:34:49.100><c> confine</c><01:34:49.439><c> our</c><01:34:49.619><c> consideration</c><01:34:50.239><c> to</c>

01:34:51.279 --> 01:34:53.380
Genesis<01:34:51.859><c> 3</c><01:34:52.420><c> and</c><01:34:52.619><c> Revelation</c><01:34:53.020><c> 12</c>

01:34:53.380 --> 01:34:54.880
otherwise<01:34:53.720><c> we</c><01:34:53.899><c> can</c><01:34:54.060><c> go</c><01:34:54.100><c> to</c><01:34:54.220><c> a</c><01:34:54.279><c> lot</c><01:34:54.479><c> of</c><01:34:54.699><c> other</c>

01:34:54.880 --> 01:34:56.920
you're<01:34:55.579><c> absolutely</c><01:34:55.939><c> right</c>

01:34:57.600 --> 01:34:59.279
I<01:34:58.260><c> don't</c><01:34:58.579><c> know</c><01:34:58.760><c> whether</c><01:34:58.920><c> you</c><01:34:59.079><c> take</c>

01:34:59.279 --> 01:35:02.020
this<01:34:59.520><c> language</c><01:34:59.939><c> absolutely</c><01:35:00.680><c> literally</c><01:35:01.100><c> or</c><01:35:01.399><c> not</c>

01:35:02.020 --> 01:35:03.760
well<01:35:02.600><c> I'm</c><01:35:02.800><c> telling</c><01:35:03.199><c> you</c>

01:35:03.760 --> 01:35:05.579
that<01:35:04.039><c> the</c><01:35:04.279><c> activity</c><01:35:04.819><c> of</c><01:35:05.140><c> the</c><01:35:05.279><c> devil</c>

01:35:05.579 --> 01:35:07.609
as<01:35:05.899><c> reported</c><01:35:06.399><c> in</c><01:35:06.619><c> Luke</c><01:35:06.840><c> chapter</c><01:35:07.279><c> 4</c>

01:35:07.609 --> 01:35:09.609
and<01:35:08.489><c> what</c><01:35:08.710><c> it</c><01:35:09.050><c> says</c><01:35:09.250><c> here</c>

01:35:09.609 --> 01:35:12.069
in<01:35:09.729><c> Revelation</c><01:35:10.149><c> chapter</c><01:35:11.350><c> 12</c>

01:35:12.069 --> 01:35:13.529
is<01:35:12.430><c> one</c><01:35:12.710><c> of</c><01:35:12.890><c> the</c><01:35:12.989><c> same</c><01:35:13.229><c> things</c>

01:35:13.529 --> 01:35:14.710
that<01:35:13.729><c> he</c><01:35:13.869><c> is</c><01:35:14.029><c> or</c><01:35:14.189><c> he</c><01:35:14.350><c> isn't</c>

01:35:14.710 --> 01:35:17.850
well<01:35:14.890><c> it</c><01:35:15.109><c> says</c><01:35:15.369><c> here</c><01:35:15.989><c> that</c><01:35:16.289><c> he</c><01:35:16.930><c> was</c><01:35:17.250><c> thrown</c><01:35:17.449><c> down</c>

01:35:17.850 --> 01:35:19.529
from<01:35:18.090><c> heaven</c><01:35:18.310><c> when</c><01:35:18.489><c> did</c><01:35:18.609><c> this</c><01:35:18.729><c> take</c><01:35:18.970><c> place</c>

01:35:19.529 --> 01:35:21.069
Isaiah<01:35:20.050><c> chapter</c><01:35:20.449><c> 14</c>

01:35:21.069 --> 01:35:23.329
well<01:35:21.409><c> when</c><01:35:21.510><c> did</c><01:35:21.609><c> that</c><01:35:21.770><c> take</c><01:35:22.010><c> place</c>

01:35:23.850 --> 01:35:25.369
well<01:35:24.329><c> perhaps</c><01:35:24.630><c> you</c><01:35:24.810><c> could</c><01:35:24.930><c> just</c><01:35:25.109><c> tell</c><01:35:25.210><c> me</c>

01:35:25.369 --> 01:35:27.829
without<01:35:25.590><c> turning</c><01:35:25.890><c> there</c><01:35:26.189><c> I</c><01:35:26.350><c> just</c><01:35:26.590><c> want</c><01:35:26.689><c> to</c><01:35:26.789><c> get</c><01:35:26.869><c> your</c><01:35:27.069><c> time</c><01:35:27.409><c> period</c>

01:35:27.829 --> 01:35:29.510
when<01:35:28.550><c> did</c><01:35:28.770><c> you</c><01:35:28.930><c> when</c><01:35:29.130><c> do</c><01:35:29.329><c> you</c><01:35:29.510><c> think</c>

01:35:29.510 --> 01:35:30.970
it<01:35:29.670><c> took</c><01:35:29.829><c> place</c>

01:35:32.430 --> 01:35:33.350
I<01:35:32.909><c> believe</c>

01:35:33.350 --> 01:35:35.689
that<01:35:33.550><c> Satan</c><01:35:33.909><c> was</c><01:35:34.229><c> passed</c><01:35:34.510><c> out</c><01:35:34.789><c> of</c><01:35:34.909><c> heaven</c>

01:35:35.689 --> 01:35:37.329
before<01:35:36.229><c> the</c><01:35:36.510><c> earth</c><01:35:36.630><c> was</c><01:35:36.930><c> made</c>

01:35:37.329 --> 01:35:38.630
are<01:35:38.350><c> you</c><01:35:38.590><c> sure</c>

01:35:38.630 --> 01:35:41.310
maybe<01:35:39.369><c> not</c><01:35:39.909><c> before</c><01:35:40.430><c> the</c><01:35:40.689><c> earth</c><01:35:40.869><c> was</c><01:35:41.149><c> made</c>

01:35:41.310 --> 01:35:43.510
because<01:35:41.609><c> he</c><01:35:41.789><c> came</c><01:35:42.149><c> to</c><01:35:42.430><c> earth</c>

01:35:43.630 --> 01:35:46.050
and<01:35:43.890><c> he</c><01:35:44.149><c> was</c><01:35:44.229><c> here</c><01:35:44.569><c> in</c><01:35:44.869><c> those</c><01:35:45.130><c> times</c>

01:35:46.050 --> 01:35:46.689
who<01:35:46.390><c> were</c>

01:35:46.689 --> 01:35:49.210
well<01:35:47.170><c> when</c><01:35:47.369><c> was</c><01:35:47.449><c> he</c><01:35:47.609><c> cast</c><01:35:47.869><c> out</c><01:35:48.029><c> of</c><01:35:48.149><c> heaven</c>

01:35:50.829 --> 01:35:51.850
because

01:35:52.090 --> 01:35:53.470
if<01:35:52.609><c> you</c><01:35:52.750><c> refer</c><01:35:53.050><c> to</c><01:35:53.250><c> Job</c>

01:35:53.470 --> 01:35:55.210
he<01:35:53.649><c> obviously</c><01:35:53.949><c> had</c><01:35:54.149><c> access</c><01:35:54.489><c> to</c><01:35:54.710><c> heaven</c>

01:35:55.210 --> 01:35:57.210
I<01:35:55.970><c> want</c><01:35:56.069><c> to</c><01:35:56.170><c> know</c><01:35:56.210><c> when</c><01:35:56.289><c> he</c><01:35:56.430><c> was</c><01:35:56.590><c> cast</c><01:35:56.909><c> out</c>

01:35:57.210 --> 01:35:58.949
well<01:35:57.630><c> you</c><01:35:57.869><c> know</c><01:35:58.010><c> Isaiah</c>

01:35:59.850 --> 01:36:01.390
I<01:36:00.369><c> don't</c><01:36:00.630><c> know</c><01:36:00.789><c> the</c><01:36:01.050><c> time</c>

01:36:01.390 --> 01:36:03.369
when<01:36:01.550><c> he</c><01:36:01.770><c> was</c><01:36:01.949><c> cast</c><01:36:02.289><c> out</c><01:36:02.529><c> of</c><01:36:02.869><c> heaven</c>

01:36:03.430 --> 01:36:04.710
but<01:36:03.909><c> earth</c><01:36:04.170><c> was</c><01:36:04.470><c> here</c>

01:36:04.710 --> 01:36:06.890
when<01:36:04.909><c> he</c><01:36:05.069><c> was</c><01:36:05.310><c> cast</c><01:36:05.630><c> out</c><01:36:05.789><c> because</c><01:36:06.090><c> he</c><01:36:06.350><c> came</c><01:36:06.529><c> to</c><01:36:06.729><c> earth</c>

01:36:06.890 --> 01:36:08.630
well<01:36:07.210><c> did</c><01:36:07.369><c> it</c><01:36:07.609><c> happen</c><01:36:07.810><c> before</c><01:36:08.289><c> or</c><01:36:08.409><c> after</c>

01:36:08.630 --> 01:36:10.850
the<01:36:08.810><c> tennis</c><01:36:08.989><c> of</c><01:36:09.229><c> the</c><01:36:09.329><c> kennel</c>

01:36:10.850 --> 01:36:13.250
that<01:36:11.229><c> he</c><01:36:11.390><c> was</c><01:36:11.510><c> cast</c><01:36:11.710><c> out</c><01:36:11.869><c> of</c><01:36:11.970><c> heaven</c>

01:36:19.770 --> 01:36:21.029
well<01:36:20.250><c> I'm</c><01:36:20.689><c> not</c>

01:36:21.029 --> 01:36:22.609
exactly<01:36:21.529><c> sure</c><01:36:22.109><c> because</c>

01:36:22.609 --> 01:36:24.409
he<01:36:22.850><c> came</c><01:36:23.189><c> to</c><01:36:23.369><c> the</c><01:36:23.569><c> earth</c>

01:36:24.409 --> 01:36:26.010
in<01:36:25.050><c> Job's</c><01:36:25.649><c> time</c>

01:36:26.010 --> 01:36:29.609
did<01:36:26.430><c> it</c><01:36:26.649><c> happen</c><01:36:26.829><c> before</c><01:36:27.250><c> or</c><01:36:27.409><c> after</c><01:36:27.670><c> when</c><01:36:27.869><c> Jesus</c><01:36:28.149><c> was</c><01:36:28.350><c> on</c><01:36:28.550><c> the</c><01:36:28.670><c> earth</c>

01:36:29.630 --> 01:36:31.550
before<01:36:30.109><c> that</c><01:36:30.310><c> or</c><01:36:30.470><c> after</c><01:36:30.710><c> that</c><01:36:30.989><c> time</c>

01:36:31.550 --> 01:36:34.010
oh<01:36:31.949><c> it</c><01:36:32.069><c> was</c><01:36:33.210><c> before</c>

01:36:34.250 --> 01:36:37.449
are<01:36:34.970><c> you</c><01:36:35.130><c> aware</c><01:36:35.489><c> of</c><01:36:35.609><c> what</c><01:36:35.770><c> John</c><01:36:36.029><c> says</c><01:36:36.409><c> in</c><01:36:36.590><c> chapter</c><01:36:36.989><c> 1</c>

01:36:37.449 --> 01:36:38.829
of<01:36:37.649><c> Revelation</c>

01:36:38.829 --> 01:36:40.770
verse<01:36:39.489><c> 1</c>

01:36:40.770 --> 01:36:42.930
the<01:36:41.470><c> words</c><01:36:41.729><c> of</c><01:36:41.930><c> Jesus</c>

01:36:43.989 --> 01:36:45.930
to<01:36:44.710><c> John</c>

01:36:49.609 --> 01:36:51.789
perhaps<01:36:50.329><c> you</c><01:36:50.449><c> can</c><01:36:50.689><c> read</c><01:36:50.770><c> those</c><01:36:51.050><c> for</c><01:36:51.289><c> us</c>

01:36:51.789 --> 01:36:53.850
the<01:36:52.229><c> revelation</c><01:36:52.689><c> of</c><01:36:52.949><c> Jesus</c><01:36:53.289><c> Christ</c>

01:36:53.850 --> 01:36:56.050
which<01:36:54.250><c> God</c><01:36:54.550><c> gave</c><01:36:54.829><c> unto</c><01:36:55.149><c> him</c>

01:36:56.229 --> 01:36:58.050
to<01:36:56.670><c> show</c><01:36:56.909><c> unto</c><01:36:57.329><c> his</c><01:36:57.609><c> servants</c>

01:36:58.050 --> 01:36:59.770
things<01:36:58.470><c> which</c><01:36:58.810><c> must</c><01:36:59.029><c> shortly</c><01:36:59.369><c> come</c>

01:36:59.770 --> 01:37:00.409
to<01:36:59.770><c> pass</c>

01:37:00.409 --> 01:37:04.210
and<01:37:01.229><c> he</c><01:37:01.470><c> sent</c><01:37:01.609><c> them</c><01:37:01.810><c> signified</c><01:37:02.550><c> by</c><01:37:02.949><c> his</c><01:37:03.250><c> angel</c>

01:37:04.210 --> 01:37:06.109
under<01:37:04.770><c> his</c><01:37:05.130><c> servant</c><01:37:05.470><c> John</c>

01:37:06.109 --> 01:37:08.430
alright<01:37:06.550><c> that's</c><01:37:07.270><c> far</c><01:37:07.590><c> enough</c>

01:37:09.609 --> 01:37:12.390
John<01:37:10.289><c> was</c><01:37:10.710><c> writing</c><01:37:11.050><c> then</c><01:37:11.250><c> about</c><01:37:11.510><c> what</c><01:37:11.810><c> time</c>

01:37:12.390 --> 01:37:14.270
what<01:37:12.729><c> time</c><01:37:13.050><c> period</c><01:37:13.390><c> is</c><01:37:13.630><c> this</c><01:37:13.810><c> book</c>

01:37:14.270 --> 01:37:15.270
oh<01:37:14.829><c> in</c>

01:37:15.270 --> 01:37:16.310
1896

01:37:16.310 --> 01:37:18.890
well<01:37:17.210><c> if</c><01:37:17.430><c> he's</c><01:37:17.689><c> saying</c><01:37:17.850><c> in</c><01:37:18.130><c> 1896</c>

01:37:18.890 --> 01:37:21.770
that<01:37:19.170><c> what</c><01:37:19.369><c> takes</c><01:37:19.630><c> place</c><01:37:19.949><c> in</c><01:37:20.210><c> the</c><01:37:20.270><c> subsequent</c><01:37:20.609><c> chapters</c>

01:37:21.970 --> 01:37:24.449
must<01:37:22.649><c> take</c><01:37:22.989><c> place</c><01:37:23.289><c> thereafter</c>

01:37:24.750 --> 01:37:26.090
and<01:37:25.430><c> in</c><01:37:25.609><c> chapter</c><01:37:25.729><c> 12</c>

01:37:26.090 --> 01:37:27.770
it<01:37:26.329><c> tells</c><01:37:26.569><c> us</c><01:37:26.850><c> that</c>

01:37:27.770 --> 01:37:30.010
when<01:37:28.010><c> Satan</c><01:37:28.170><c> is</c><01:37:28.350><c> going</c><01:37:28.449><c> to</c><01:37:28.529><c> be</c><01:37:28.770><c> cast</c><01:37:28.949><c> out</c><01:37:29.069><c> of</c><01:37:29.229><c> heaven</c>

01:37:30.390 --> 01:37:32.189
I'd<01:37:30.829><c> like</c><01:37:30.829><c> to</c><01:37:30.869><c> know</c><01:37:30.949><c> how</c><01:37:31.170><c> he</c><01:37:31.289><c> could</c><01:37:31.510><c> be</c><01:37:31.750><c> cast</c><01:37:32.010><c> out</c>

01:37:32.189 --> 01:37:33.270
at<01:37:32.409><c> a</c><01:37:32.569><c> future</c><01:37:32.869><c> time</c>

01:37:33.270 --> 01:37:34.810
to<01:37:33.510><c> 1896</c>

01:37:34.810 --> 01:37:38.250
and<01:37:35.130><c> yet</c><01:37:35.250><c> be</c><01:37:35.510><c> cast</c><01:37:35.770><c> out</c><01:37:35.949><c> before</c><01:37:36.270><c> Jesus</c><01:37:36.569><c> was</c><01:37:36.750><c> on</c><01:37:36.909><c> the</c><01:37:36.989><c> earth</c>

01:37:38.609 --> 01:37:40.510
well<01:37:39.050><c> because</c><01:37:39.430><c> of</c><01:37:39.649><c> what</c><01:37:39.750><c> I</c><01:37:39.930><c> understand</c>

01:37:40.510 --> 01:37:41.369
I<01:37:40.909><c> believe</c><01:37:41.149><c> that</c>

01:37:41.369 --> 01:37:42.770
in<01:37:41.550><c> chapter</c><01:37:41.949><c> 14</c>

01:37:42.770 --> 01:37:46.369
but<01:37:43.430><c> perhaps</c><01:37:43.789><c> we</c><01:37:43.989><c> could</c><01:37:44.149><c> stick</c><01:37:44.329><c> to</c><01:37:44.489><c> these</c><01:37:44.649><c> two</c><01:37:44.869><c> passages</c><01:37:45.170><c> first</c>

01:37:46.449 --> 01:37:47.750
otherwise<01:37:46.890><c> we</c><01:37:47.130><c> would</c><01:37:47.229><c> get</c><01:37:47.430><c> confused</c>

01:37:47.750 --> 01:37:50.510
by<01:37:47.970><c> going</c><01:37:48.189><c> off</c><01:37:48.449><c> to</c><01:37:48.550><c> a</c><01:37:48.550><c> lot</c><01:37:48.729><c> of</c><01:37:48.869><c> other</c><01:37:49.050><c> references</c>

01:37:53.329 --> 01:37:54.590
Isaiah<01:37:53.770><c> chapter</c><01:37:54.109><c> 14</c>

01:37:54.590 --> 01:37:55.609
doesn't<01:37:54.909><c> mention</c><01:37:55.229><c> Satan</c>

01:37:55.609 --> 01:37:57.789
and<01:37:55.609><c> it</c><01:37:55.710><c> doesn't</c><01:37:55.989><c> mention</c><01:37:56.289><c> the</c><01:37:56.369><c> devil</c><01:37:56.550><c> either</c>

01:37:57.789 --> 01:38:00.270
those<01:37:58.369><c> words</c><01:37:58.590><c> don't</c><01:37:58.869><c> occur</c><01:37:59.130><c> in</c><01:37:59.329><c> Isaiah</c><01:37:59.510><c> 14</c>

01:38:02.829 --> 01:38:04.670
can<01:38:03.350><c> I</c><01:38:03.510><c> say</c><01:38:03.729><c> this</c>

01:38:05.189 --> 01:38:05.710
now

01:38:05.710 --> 01:38:07.109
that<01:38:05.890><c> the</c><01:38:06.069><c> Christadelphians</c>

01:38:07.109 --> 01:38:08.289
believe<01:38:07.510><c> there's</c><01:38:07.810><c> a</c><01:38:07.930><c> devil</c>

01:38:08.289 --> 01:38:11.130
but<01:38:08.630><c> perhaps</c><01:38:09.029><c> not</c><01:38:09.310><c> the</c><01:38:09.390><c> devil</c><01:38:09.569><c> you're</c><01:38:09.750><c> thinking</c><01:38:10.050><c> of</c>

01:38:11.130 --> 01:38:12.869
that<01:38:11.609><c> term</c><01:38:11.829><c> in</c><01:38:12.010><c> the</c><01:38:12.130><c> bible</c><01:38:12.369><c> means</c>

01:38:12.869 --> 01:38:15.850
a<01:38:13.170><c> false</c><01:38:13.430><c> accuser</c><01:38:13.909><c> or</c><01:38:14.130><c> a</c><01:38:14.310><c> slanderer</c>

01:38:15.850 --> 01:38:17.550
and<01:38:16.229><c> whatever</c><01:38:16.449><c> is</c><01:38:16.729><c> a</c><01:38:16.829><c> false</c><01:38:17.090><c> accuser</c>

01:38:17.550 --> 01:38:19.930
or<01:38:17.689><c> a</c><01:38:17.909><c> slanderer</c><01:38:18.569><c> is</c><01:38:18.710><c> said</c><01:38:18.869><c> to</c><01:38:18.930><c> be</c><01:38:19.109><c> a</c><01:38:19.210><c> devil</c>

01:38:19.930 --> 01:38:21.210
that<01:38:20.649><c> word</c><01:38:20.850><c> is</c><01:38:21.050><c> used</c>

01:38:21.210 --> 01:38:22.789
of<01:38:21.409><c> women</c><01:38:21.890><c> in</c><01:38:22.250><c> New</c><01:38:22.390><c> Testament</c>

01:38:22.789 --> 01:38:24.310
are<01:38:22.989><c> you</c><01:38:23.170><c> aware</c><01:38:23.350><c> of</c><01:38:23.510><c> that?</c>

01:38:24.529 --> 01:38:26.770
that<01:38:24.710><c> the</c><01:38:24.869><c> word</c><01:38:24.970><c> for</c><01:38:25.189><c> devil</c><01:38:25.369><c> is</c><01:38:25.569><c> used</c><01:38:25.729><c> of</c><01:38:25.930><c> women?</c>

01:38:27.390 --> 01:38:29.729
it's<01:38:27.989><c> used</c><01:38:28.149><c> of</c><01:38:28.289><c> women</c>

01:38:30.109 --> 01:38:31.210
in

01:38:33.989 --> 01:38:35.090
Titus

01:38:39.609 --> 01:38:41.350
it's<01:38:40.210><c> also</c><01:38:40.550><c> used</c>

01:38:44.869 --> 01:38:47.289
Titus<01:38:45.470><c> chapter</c><01:38:45.770><c> 2</c><01:38:46.109><c> verse</c><01:38:46.409><c> 3</c>

01:38:47.729 --> 01:38:49.569
then<01:38:48.109><c> the</c><01:38:48.329><c> older</c><01:38:48.569><c> women</c><01:38:48.890><c> likewise</c>

01:38:49.569 --> 01:38:50.770
in<01:38:49.869><c> reverent</c><01:38:50.250><c> behavior</c>

01:38:50.770 --> 01:38:52.609
are<01:38:50.770><c> not</c><01:38:51.109><c> to</c><01:38:51.369><c> be</c><01:38:51.470><c> slanderers</c>

01:38:52.609 --> 01:38:54.369
you<01:38:53.149><c> can</c><01:38:53.390><c> check</c><01:38:53.550><c> that</c><01:38:53.729><c> out</c><01:38:53.829><c> as</c><01:38:54.029><c> well</c><01:38:54.189><c> in</c>

01:38:54.369 --> 01:38:56.250
1st<01:38:54.630><c> Timothy</c><01:38:54.850><c> chapter</c><01:38:55.250><c> 3</c><01:38:55.689><c> verse</c><01:38:55.949><c> 11</c>

01:38:56.250 --> 01:38:57.609
is<01:38:56.449><c> another</c><01:38:56.649><c> reference</c>

01:38:58.829 --> 01:39:00.470
but<01:38:59.430><c> that's</c><01:38:59.810><c> the</c><01:38:59.930><c> same</c><01:39:00.010><c> word</c>

01:39:00.470 --> 01:39:02.550
exactly<01:39:01.229><c> the</c><01:39:01.329><c> same</c><01:39:01.550><c> word</c>

01:39:02.550 --> 01:39:04.670
in<01:39:03.630><c> harmony</c><01:39:03.989><c> with</c><01:39:04.289><c> Satan</c>

01:39:04.670 --> 01:39:05.750
who<01:39:04.970><c> is</c><01:39:05.090><c> it?</c>

01:39:07.430 --> 01:39:09.829
in<01:39:08.029><c> Revelation</c><01:39:08.529><c> chapter</c><01:39:09.010><c> 12</c>

01:39:09.829 --> 01:39:12.689
I<01:39:10.390><c> would</c><01:39:10.470><c> just</c><01:39:10.670><c> like</c><01:39:10.850><c> to</c><01:39:11.010><c> make</c><01:39:11.130><c> the</c><01:39:11.409><c> point</c>

01:39:12.770 --> 01:39:16.229
that<01:39:13.149><c> this</c><01:39:13.829><c> serpent</c><01:39:14.250><c> in</c><01:39:14.630><c> chapter</c><01:39:15.050><c> 12</c>

01:39:16.229 --> 01:39:17.229
this<01:39:16.710><c> dragon</c>

01:39:17.229 --> 01:39:18.789
has<01:39:18.350><c> a</c><01:39:18.590><c> tail</c>

01:39:18.789 --> 01:39:21.210
that<01:39:18.869><c> it</c><01:39:18.930><c> can</c><01:39:19.130><c> drag</c><01:39:19.470><c> the</c><01:39:19.770><c> third</c><01:39:19.989><c> part</c><01:39:20.329><c> of</c><01:39:20.489><c> the</c><01:39:20.729><c> stars</c>

01:39:21.210 --> 01:39:23.310
to<01:39:22.250><c> the</c><01:39:22.449><c> earth</c>

01:39:23.710 --> 01:39:25.390
that<01:39:24.270><c> it</c><01:39:24.569><c> opens</c>

01:39:25.470 --> 01:39:26.829
with<01:39:26.029><c> a</c><01:39:26.550><c> great</c>

01:39:26.829 --> 01:39:28.590
wonder<01:39:27.430><c> in</c><01:39:27.710><c> heaven</c><01:39:27.909><c> with</c><01:39:28.189><c> the</c><01:39:28.350><c> moon</c>

01:39:28.590 --> 01:39:30.090
clothed<01:39:28.869><c> with</c><01:39:29.109><c> the</c><01:39:29.130><c> sun</c>

01:39:30.090 --> 01:39:32.829
with<01:39:30.489><c> the</c><01:39:30.609><c> woman</c><01:39:30.789><c> clothed</c><01:39:31.050><c> with</c><01:39:31.250><c> the</c><01:39:31.409><c> sun</c><01:39:31.569><c> and</c><01:39:31.710><c> the</c><01:39:31.789><c> moon</c><01:39:31.949><c> under</c><01:39:32.210><c> her</c><01:39:32.409><c> feet</c>

01:39:32.829 --> 01:39:35.289
that's<01:39:33.949><c> obviously</c><01:39:34.210><c> not</c><01:39:34.470><c> literalism</c>

01:39:36.890 --> 01:39:38.770
I'll<01:39:37.449><c> be</c><01:39:37.489><c> talking</c><01:39:37.750><c> briefly</c><01:39:38.050><c> here</c>

01:39:38.770 --> 01:39:40.770
that<01:39:39.270><c> this</c><01:39:39.470><c> relates</c><01:39:39.810><c> to</c><01:39:40.329><c> historically</c>

01:39:40.770 --> 01:39:42.949
things<01:39:41.250><c> that</c><01:39:41.489><c> would</c><01:39:41.649><c> take</c><01:39:41.949><c> place</c>

01:39:42.949 --> 01:39:45.470
immediately<01:39:43.449><c> after</c>

01:39:46.369 --> 01:39:46.930
1896

01:39:46.930 --> 01:39:48.810
and<01:39:48.109><c> here</c>

01:39:48.810 --> 01:39:51.090
in<01:39:49.050><c> the</c><01:39:49.189><c> language</c><01:39:49.829><c> of</c><01:39:50.310><c> Apocalypse</c>

01:39:51.090 --> 01:39:53.590
a<01:39:51.470><c> revelation</c><01:39:51.970><c> using</c><01:39:52.390><c> symbol</c>

01:39:53.770 --> 01:39:55.010
for<01:39:54.369><c> Jesus</c><01:39:54.710><c> communicating</c>

01:39:55.489 --> 01:39:57.149
future<01:39:55.970><c> events</c><01:39:56.329><c> that</c><01:39:56.510><c> would</c><01:39:56.689><c> take</c><01:39:56.869><c> place</c>

01:39:57.149 --> 01:39:58.630
on<01:39:57.430><c> the</c><01:39:57.489><c> earth</c>

01:39:58.630 --> 01:40:01.390
and<01:39:59.170><c> hence</c><01:39:59.489><c> he's</c><01:39:59.789><c> using</c><01:40:00.090><c> here</c><01:40:00.369><c> the</c><01:40:00.569><c> language</c>

01:40:01.390 --> 01:40:03.109
that<01:40:01.890><c> embodies</c><01:40:02.310><c> some</c><01:40:02.590><c> of</c><01:40:02.729><c> the</c><01:40:02.890><c> terms</c>

01:40:03.109 --> 01:40:04.890
of<01:40:03.270><c> the</c><01:40:03.470><c> Old</c><01:40:03.689><c> Testament</c><01:40:03.989><c> like</c><01:40:04.369><c> servant</c>

01:40:04.890 --> 01:40:07.470
because<01:40:05.750><c> the</c><01:40:06.050><c> servant</c><01:40:06.350><c> in</c><01:40:06.550><c> Genesis</c><01:40:06.869><c> chapter</c><01:40:07.229><c> 3</c>

01:40:07.470 --> 01:40:08.149
was<01:40:07.689><c> a</c><01:40:07.909><c> liar</c>

01:40:08.149 --> 01:40:09.949
there<01:40:08.810><c> was</c><01:40:09.050><c> no</c><01:40:09.289><c> true</c><01:40:09.489><c> opinion</c>

01:40:09.949 --> 01:40:12.949
but<01:40:10.510><c> the</c><01:40:10.710><c> point</c><01:40:10.810><c> I'm</c><01:40:11.050><c> making</c><01:40:11.289><c> here</c><01:40:11.710><c> is</c><01:40:12.210><c> that</c><01:40:12.350><c> it's</c><01:40:12.550><c> a</c><01:40:12.689><c> language</c>

01:40:12.949 --> 01:40:14.710
of<01:40:13.250><c> symbol</c><01:40:13.630><c> and</c><01:40:14.350><c> a</c><01:40:14.529><c> good</c>

01:40:14.710 --> 01:40:16.930
Bible<01:40:15.029><c> student</c><01:40:15.369><c> if</c><01:40:15.590><c> he</c><01:40:15.710><c> wants</c><01:40:16.010><c> to</c><01:40:16.270><c> prove</c><01:40:16.409><c> a</c><01:40:16.670><c> proposition</c>

01:40:17.409 --> 01:40:18.850
say<01:40:17.930><c> the</c><01:40:18.130><c> devil</c><01:40:18.350><c> is</c><01:40:18.529><c> something</c>

01:40:18.850 --> 01:40:20.710
other<01:40:19.310><c> than</c><01:40:20.090><c> what</c><01:40:20.329><c> we</c><01:40:20.529><c> were</c>

01:40:20.710 --> 01:40:22.029
speaking<01:40:20.970><c> of</c><01:40:21.170><c> earlier</c>

01:40:22.029 --> 01:40:24.250
Sherry,<01:40:22.510><c> wouldn't</c><01:40:22.789><c> you</c><01:40:22.850><c> go</c><01:40:22.890><c> to</c><01:40:22.989><c> the</c><01:40:23.189><c> last</c><01:40:23.409><c> book</c><01:40:23.569><c> of</c><01:40:23.710><c> the</c><01:40:23.850><c> Bible</c>

01:40:24.250 --> 01:40:26.829
in<01:40:24.989><c> a</c><01:40:25.109><c> book</c><01:40:25.270><c> that's</c><01:40:25.609><c> symbolic</c><01:40:25.949><c> to</c><01:40:26.189><c> try</c><01:40:26.289><c> to</c><01:40:26.409><c> make</c><01:40:26.529><c> that</c>

01:40:26.829 --> 01:40:27.229
point

01:40:27.229 --> 01:40:30.270
I'll<01:40:27.970><c> read</c><01:40:28.250><c> what</c><01:40:28.270><c> he</c><01:40:29.729><c> said</c>

01:40:30.270 --> 01:40:32.470
but<01:40:31.069><c> then</c><01:40:31.390><c> how</c><01:40:31.630><c> do</c><01:40:31.770><c> you</c><01:40:31.909><c> explain</c>

01:40:32.470 --> 01:40:34.510
the<01:40:32.850><c> devil</c><01:40:33.189><c> that's</c><01:40:33.630><c> spoken</c><01:40:33.829><c> of</c><01:40:34.250><c> in</c>

01:40:34.510 --> 01:40:35.850
Luke<01:40:34.710><c> chapter</c><01:40:35.109><c> 4</c>

01:40:35.850 --> 01:40:37.449
and<01:40:36.569><c> what</c><01:40:36.810><c> Paul</c><01:40:37.050><c> says</c>

01:40:37.449 --> 01:40:40.369
depends<01:40:38.189><c> on</c><01:40:39.149><c> the</c><01:40:39.350><c> power</c><01:40:39.670><c> of</c><01:40:40.050><c> the</c><01:40:40.189><c> air</c>

01:40:40.369 --> 01:40:42.229
the<01:40:40.630><c> spirit,</c><01:40:41.090><c> the</c><01:40:41.149><c> knowledge</c><01:40:41.489><c> of</c><01:40:41.829><c> the</c><01:40:41.890><c> angels</c>

01:40:42.229 --> 01:40:42.890
and<01:40:42.229><c> the</c><01:40:42.550><c> spirit</c>

01:40:42.890 --> 01:40:45.890
there<01:40:43.470><c> are</c><01:40:45.130><c> no</c><01:40:45.350><c> problems</c>

01:40:45.890 --> 01:40:47.590
in<01:40:46.369><c> those</c><01:40:46.590><c> verses</c><01:40:46.909><c> at</c><01:40:47.189><c> all</c>

01:40:47.590 --> 01:40:49.130
but<01:40:47.810><c> before</c><01:40:48.029><c> I</c><01:40:48.170><c> take</c><01:40:48.390><c> those</c><01:40:48.670><c> two</c><01:40:48.869><c> verses</c>

01:40:49.130 --> 01:40:51.130
can<01:40:49.390><c> I</c><01:40:49.470><c> ask</c><01:40:49.689><c> you</c><01:40:49.869><c> a</c><01:40:49.930><c> few</c><01:40:49.989><c> questions</c>

01:40:52.430 --> 01:40:54.170
what's<01:40:52.909><c> your</c><01:40:53.069><c> view</c><01:40:53.170><c> of</c><01:40:53.329><c> the</c><01:40:53.489><c> Genesis</c><01:40:53.710><c> account</c>

01:40:54.170 --> 01:40:56.069
do<01:40:54.390><c> you</c><01:40:54.409><c> think</c><01:40:54.569><c> there</c><01:40:54.729><c> was</c><01:40:54.869><c> a</c><01:40:54.949><c> literal</c><01:40:55.229><c> serpent</c><01:40:55.470><c> in</c><01:40:55.649><c> the</c><01:40:55.869><c> garden</c>

01:40:56.550 --> 01:40:57.029
yes

01:40:57.029 --> 01:41:00.930
do<01:40:57.369><c> you</c><01:40:58.770><c> think</c><01:40:58.949><c> there</c><01:40:59.090><c> was</c><01:40:59.250><c> a</c><01:40:59.390><c> devil</c><01:40:59.529><c> in</c><01:40:59.729><c> the</c><01:40:59.869><c> garden</c>

01:41:01.350 --> 01:41:02.250
I<01:41:01.829><c> believe</c>

01:41:02.250 --> 01:41:04.270
what<01:41:02.810><c> I</c><01:41:03.149><c> understand</c><01:41:03.710><c> is</c><01:41:03.989><c> that</c>

01:41:04.270 --> 01:41:06.470
Satan<01:41:04.689><c> spoke</c><01:41:05.409><c> through</c><01:41:05.850><c> the</c><01:41:06.130><c> serpent</c>

01:41:06.470 --> 01:41:08.989
does<01:41:06.930><c> the</c><01:41:07.109><c> Bible</c><01:41:07.289><c> say</c><01:41:07.529><c> that</c>

01:41:10.729 --> 01:41:12.430
let<01:41:11.210><c> me</c><01:41:11.250><c> look</c><01:41:11.529><c> back</c>

01:41:16.170 --> 01:41:18.689
I<01:41:16.649><c> think</c><01:41:17.130><c> perhaps</c><01:41:17.529><c> I'll</c><01:41:17.729><c> let</c><01:41:17.829><c> the</c><01:41:18.050><c> discussion</c><01:41:18.329><c> go</c><01:41:18.550><c> on</c>

01:41:18.689 --> 01:41:19.649
for<01:41:18.909><c> five</c><01:41:19.189><c> minutes</c>

01:41:19.649 --> 01:41:22.170
and<01:41:20.229><c> then</c><01:41:20.449><c> we'll</c><01:41:20.689><c> terminate</c><01:41:21.050><c> and</c><01:41:21.170><c> maybe</c><01:41:21.350><c> continue</c><01:41:21.770><c> afterwards</c>

01:41:22.170 --> 01:41:24.229
but<01:41:22.369><c> we'll</c><01:41:22.550><c> just</c><01:41:22.729><c> finish</c><01:41:22.970><c> up</c><01:41:23.170><c> Genesis</c><01:41:23.409><c> chapter</c><01:41:23.770><c> 3</c>

01:41:24.229 --> 01:41:26.810
look,<01:41:25.430><c> it's</c><01:41:25.609><c> a</c><01:41:25.729><c> matter</c><01:41:25.890><c> of</c><01:41:26.130><c> simple</c><01:41:26.409><c> facts</c>

01:41:26.810 --> 01:41:29.310
you'll<01:41:27.229><c> spend</c><01:41:27.369><c> all</c><01:41:27.569><c> night</c><01:41:27.729><c> looking</c><01:41:27.970><c> at</c><01:41:28.130><c> Genesis</c><01:41:28.470><c> chapter</c><01:41:28.789><c> 3</c>

01:41:29.310 --> 01:41:30.590
and<01:41:29.630><c> you</c><01:41:29.750><c> won't</c><01:41:29.989><c> see</c><01:41:30.130><c> or</c><01:41:30.350><c> find</c>

01:41:30.590 --> 01:41:31.609
what<01:41:30.689><c> you</c><01:41:30.869><c> just</c><01:41:31.149><c> said</c>

01:41:31.609 --> 01:41:33.210
that's<01:41:32.010><c> not</c><01:41:32.189><c> in</c><01:41:32.329><c> the</c><01:41:32.449><c> Bible</c>

01:41:33.710 --> 01:41:35.970
I<01:41:34.189><c> think</c><01:41:34.409><c> you're</c><01:41:34.729><c> probably</c><01:41:34.930><c> a</c><01:41:35.069><c> good</c><01:41:35.130><c> enough</c><01:41:35.310><c> Bible</c><01:41:35.569><c> student</c>

01:41:35.970 --> 01:41:37.750
to<01:41:36.109><c> realize</c><01:41:36.670><c> that,</c><01:41:36.970><c> that's</c><01:41:37.029><c> not</c><01:41:37.210><c> in</c><01:41:37.390><c> the</c><01:41:37.510><c> Bible</c>

01:41:37.750 --> 01:41:39.890
the<01:41:38.789><c> Bible</c><01:41:39.329><c> nowhere</c>

01:41:39.890 --> 01:41:42.149
says<01:41:40.430><c> that</c><01:41:40.729><c> the</c><01:41:40.930><c> devil</c><01:41:41.369><c> was</c><01:41:41.869><c> speaking</c>

01:41:42.149 --> 01:41:42.869
through<01:41:42.409><c> the</c><01:41:42.569><c> serpent</c>

01:41:42.869 --> 01:41:45.649
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01:41:45.829 --> 01:41:47.430
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01:41:47.430 --> 01:41:50.069
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01:41:50.529 --> 01:41:52.210
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01:41:52.210 --> 01:41:53.329
the<01:41:52.369><c> Bible</c><01:41:52.710><c> says</c>

01:41:53.329 --> 01:41:54.869
in<01:41:53.630><c> verse</c><01:41:53.890><c> 14</c>

01:41:54.869 --> 01:41:57.930
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01:41:57.710 --> 01:42:00.329
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01:42:00.609 --> 01:42:02.189
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01:42:02.189 --> 01:42:03.630
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01:42:03.630 --> 01:42:05.210
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01:42:05.210 --> 01:42:06.590
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01:42:06.590 --> 01:42:09.130
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01:42:09.409 --> 01:42:11.090
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01:42:11.090 --> 01:42:12.949
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01:42:12.949 --> 01:42:15.289
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01:42:15.289 --> 01:42:16.430
a<01:42:15.529><c> mention</c><01:42:15.810><c> in</c><01:42:16.109><c> narrative?</c>

01:42:16.890 --> 01:42:20.329
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01:42:20.949 --> 01:42:21.649
you're<01:42:21.510><c> sure</c>

01:42:21.649 --> 01:42:22.850
of<01:42:21.829><c> that</c><01:42:21.970><c> language?</c>

01:42:23.149 --> 01:42:24.529
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01:42:24.529 --> 01:42:28.130
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01:42:29.689 --> 01:42:30.810
God<01:42:30.250><c> himself</c>

01:42:30.810 --> 01:42:31.630
slew

01:42:31.630 --> 01:42:33.489
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01:42:34.630 --> 01:42:35.390
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01:42:35.390 --> 01:42:37.050
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01:42:37.789 --> 01:42:38.970
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01:42:38.970 --> 01:42:41.289
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01:42:41.289 --> 01:42:43.090
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01:42:43.090 --> 01:42:45.409
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01:42:45.409 --> 01:42:47.630
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01:42:47.630 --> 01:42:49.250
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01:42:49.250 --> 01:42:51.510
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01:42:51.510 --> 01:42:53.630
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01:42:53.630 --> 01:42:55.710
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01:42:55.710 --> 01:42:56.869
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01:42:56.869 --> 01:42:59.609
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01:42:59.609 --> 01:43:00.430
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01:43:00.430 --> 01:43:02.069
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01:43:02.649 --> 01:43:05.250
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01:43:05.250 --> 01:43:06.489
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01:43:06.489 --> 01:43:08.270
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01:43:08.270 --> 01:43:11.310
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01:43:11.310 --> 01:43:12.869
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01:43:12.869 --> 01:43:14.829
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01:43:14.829 --> 01:43:16.970
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01:43:16.970 --> 01:43:18.770
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01:43:18.770 --> 01:43:20.310
the<01:43:19.430><c> fowls</c><01:43:19.770><c> of</c><01:43:19.949><c> the</c><01:43:20.069><c> air</c>

01:43:20.310 --> 01:43:21.449
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01:43:21.449 --> 01:43:24.590
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01:43:24.590 --> 01:43:26.710
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01:43:26.710 --> 01:43:27.609
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01:43:27.609 --> 01:43:30.390
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01:43:30.569 --> 01:43:31.810
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01:43:31.810 --> 01:43:33.789
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01:43:33.789 --> 01:43:35.810
to<01:43:34.409><c> describe</c><01:43:34.949><c> moral</c><01:43:35.449><c> creature</c>

01:43:35.810 --> 01:43:37.069
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01:43:37.069 --> 01:43:39.210
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01:43:39.210 --> 01:43:42.449
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01:43:42.710 --> 01:43:44.510
allowing<01:43:43.130><c> this</c>

01:43:44.510 --> 01:43:46.590
creature<01:43:45.310><c> having</c><01:43:46.010><c> access</c>

01:43:46.590 --> 01:43:47.649
to<01:43:46.829><c> heaven</c>

01:43:47.649 --> 01:43:49.590
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01:43:49.590 --> 01:43:51.489
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01:43:51.489 --> 01:43:54.550
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01:43:54.550 --> 01:43:56.670
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01:43:56.670 --> 01:43:58.109
and<01:43:57.029><c> man</c><01:43:57.210><c> and</c><01:43:57.350><c> woman</c>

01:43:58.369 --> 01:44:00.189
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01:44:00.189 --> 01:44:01.970
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01:44:01.970 --> 01:44:04.470
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01:44:04.350 --> 01:44:06.310
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01:44:06.310 --> 01:44:08.390
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01:44:08.390 --> 01:44:10.369
of<01:44:08.569><c> injustice</c><01:44:09.010><c> because</c><01:44:09.510><c> you</c><01:44:09.670><c> have</c><01:44:09.869><c> God</c>

01:44:10.369 --> 01:44:12.390
punning<01:44:10.869><c> that</c><01:44:11.390><c> serpent</c>

01:44:12.390 --> 01:44:14.289
that<01:44:13.329><c> he</c><01:44:13.449><c> would</c><01:44:13.569><c> be</c><01:44:13.729><c> cursed</c>

01:44:14.289 --> 01:44:15.710
above<01:44:14.770><c> all</c><01:44:15.109><c> creatures</c>

01:44:15.710 --> 01:44:17.890
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01:44:17.890 --> 01:44:20.649
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01:44:20.649 --> 01:44:21.890
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01:44:21.890 --> 01:44:23.909
and<01:44:22.829><c> furthermore</c>

01:44:23.909 --> 01:44:25.970
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01:44:25.970 --> 01:44:27.789
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01:44:27.890 --> 01:44:30.289
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01:44:30.289 --> 01:44:32.550
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01:44:32.550 --> 01:44:34.229
the<01:44:33.630><c> woman</c><01:44:33.890><c> blamed</c>

01:44:34.229 --> 01:44:35.850
the<01:44:35.069><c> serpent</c>

01:44:35.890 --> 01:44:38.869
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01:44:39.310 --> 01:44:40.470
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01:44:40.470 --> 01:44:41.810
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01:44:41.810 --> 01:44:44.500
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01:44:45.109 --> 01:44:46.050
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01:44:46.050 --> 01:44:47.850
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01:44:47.850 --> 01:44:49.350
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01:44:49.630 --> 01:44:51.149
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01:44:51.149 --> 01:44:52.689
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01:44:52.850 --> 01:44:55.250
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01:44:55.250 --> 01:44:56.890
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01:44:56.890 --> 01:44:58.270
enmity<01:44:57.289><c> between</c><01:44:57.590><c> you</c><01:44:57.789><c> and</c><01:44:57.810><c> the</c><01:44:58.010><c> woman</c>

01:44:58.270 --> 01:45:00.109
who<01:44:58.729><c> is</c><01:44:58.789><c> he</c><01:44:59.069><c> talking</c><01:44:59.250><c> to?</c>

01:45:01.069 --> 01:45:02.369
who<01:45:01.289><c> is</c><01:45:01.350><c> he</c><01:45:01.609><c> talking</c><01:45:01.770><c> to</c><01:45:01.930><c> when</c><01:45:02.010><c> he</c><01:45:02.229><c> says</c>

01:45:02.369 --> 01:45:04.510
I<01:45:02.609><c> will</c><01:45:02.850><c> put</c><01:45:03.050><c> enmity</c><01:45:03.449><c> between</c><01:45:03.729><c> you</c><01:45:03.949><c> and</c><01:45:04.010><c> the</c><01:45:04.170><c> woman</c>

01:45:04.510 --> 01:45:07.210
between<01:45:05.010><c> your</c><01:45:05.310><c> seat</c><01:45:05.409><c> and</c><01:45:05.550><c> her</c><01:45:05.789><c> seat</c>

01:45:07.529 --> 01:45:09.949
he's<01:45:08.010><c> talking</c><01:45:08.189><c> to</c><01:45:08.409><c> the</c><01:45:09.449><c> serpent</c>

01:45:11.710 --> 01:45:13.109
and<01:45:12.189><c> yet</c><01:45:12.350><c> you</c><01:45:12.630><c> have</c><01:45:12.850><c> me</c>

01:45:13.109 --> 01:45:14.850
believe<01:45:13.430><c> that</c><01:45:13.649><c> the</c><01:45:13.850><c> serpent</c><01:45:14.109><c> in</c><01:45:14.350><c> your</c><01:45:14.609><c> view</c>

01:45:14.850 --> 01:45:16.510
is<01:45:15.430><c> a</c><01:45:15.630><c> helpless</c><01:45:15.890><c> victim</c>

01:45:16.510 --> 01:45:18.130
of<01:45:16.890><c> a</c><01:45:17.090><c> fallen</c><01:45:17.329><c> angel</c><01:45:17.630><c> devil</c>

01:45:18.130 --> 01:45:20.670
when<01:45:18.930><c> such</c><01:45:19.270><c> a</c><01:45:19.510><c> creature</c><01:45:19.729><c> isn't</c><01:45:20.270><c> mentioned</c>

01:45:20.670 --> 01:45:22.270
in<01:45:20.890><c> the</c><01:45:20.989><c> narrative</c><01:45:21.210><c> whatsoever</c>

01:45:22.510 --> 01:45:24.609
no,<01:45:22.949><c> if</c><01:45:23.109><c> we're</c><01:45:23.350><c> faithful</c><01:45:23.670><c> to</c><01:45:23.930><c> God's</c><01:45:24.329><c> word</c>

01:45:24.609 --> 01:45:26.609
we<01:45:25.310><c> will</c><01:45:25.550><c> not</c><01:45:25.810><c> seek</c><01:45:26.010><c> to</c><01:45:26.270><c> impose</c>

01:45:26.609 --> 01:45:28.630
on<01:45:26.909><c> scripture</c><01:45:27.270><c> something</c><01:45:27.630><c> that</c><01:45:27.810><c> is</c><01:45:27.989><c> not</c><01:45:28.229><c> there</c>

01:45:28.630 --> 01:45:30.710
we<01:45:29.250><c> will</c><01:45:29.750><c> rather</c><01:45:30.050><c> view</c><01:45:30.229><c> the</c><01:45:30.449><c> serpent</c>

01:45:30.710 --> 01:45:32.470
as<01:45:30.930><c> the</c><01:45:31.050><c> Christadelphians</c><01:45:31.590><c> have</c><01:45:31.789><c> done</c><01:45:31.930><c> here</c>

01:45:32.470 --> 01:45:34.189
as<01:45:33.069><c> a</c><01:45:33.250><c> creature</c><01:45:33.529><c> that</c><01:45:33.729><c> the</c><01:45:33.930><c> Lord</c>

01:45:34.189 --> 01:45:36.430
might<01:45:34.350><c> have</c><01:45:34.590><c> made</c><01:45:34.970><c> that</c><01:45:35.289><c> was</c><01:45:35.529><c> more</c><01:45:36.010><c> crafty</c>

01:45:36.430 --> 01:45:39.289
or<01:45:36.689><c> kind</c><01:45:36.989><c> than</c><01:45:37.449><c> any</c><01:45:37.770><c> other</c><01:45:38.029><c> live</c><01:45:38.210><c> creature</c>

01:45:39.510 --> 01:45:40.510
and<01:45:40.029><c> the</c><01:45:40.250><c> serpent</c>

01:45:40.510 --> 01:45:42.329
had<01:45:40.750><c> his</c><01:45:40.970><c> role</c><01:45:41.149><c> to</c><01:45:41.430><c> play</c><01:45:41.529><c> in</c><01:45:41.729><c> the</c><01:45:41.949><c> trial</c>

01:45:42.329 --> 01:45:44.810
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01:45:44.810 --> 01:45:46.470
a<01:45:45.270><c> plausible</c><01:45:45.729><c> alternative</c>

01:45:46.470 --> 01:45:48.750
to<01:45:47.069><c> God's</c><01:45:47.449><c> divine</c><01:45:47.609><c> instructions</c>

01:45:49.390 --> 01:45:50.890
and<01:45:49.949><c> therefore</c><01:45:50.430><c> he</c><01:45:50.649><c> was</c>

01:45:50.890 --> 01:45:52.430
sentenced<01:45:51.289><c> to</c><01:45:51.510><c> be</c><01:45:51.750><c> cursed</c><01:45:52.050><c> above</c>

01:45:52.430 --> 01:45:54.250
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01:45:54.250 --> 01:45:56.149
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01:45:56.149 --> 01:45:57.869
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01:45:57.869 --> 01:46:00.529
in<01:45:58.810><c> which</c><01:45:59.090><c> case</c><01:45:59.369><c> the</c><01:45:59.590><c> Christadelphian</c><01:46:00.289><c> view</c>

01:46:00.529 --> 01:46:02.789
is<01:46:01.109><c> absolutely</c><01:46:01.729><c> biblical</c>

01:46:02.810 --> 01:46:05.270
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01:46:05.270 --> 01:46:07.149
no<01:46:05.909><c> truth</c><01:46:06.149><c> in</c><01:46:06.369><c> him</c>

01:46:07.149 --> 01:46:08.829
Jesus<01:46:07.770><c> can</c><01:46:08.069><c> allude</c><01:46:08.329><c> to</c><01:46:08.510><c> this</c>

01:46:08.829 --> 01:46:11.470
the<01:46:09.550><c> apostle</c><01:46:09.970><c> Paul</c><01:46:10.430><c> can</c><01:46:10.670><c> allude</c><01:46:10.949><c> to</c><01:46:11.130><c> this</c>

01:46:11.470 --> 01:46:12.890
and<01:46:11.949><c> the</c><01:46:12.130><c> apostle</c><01:46:12.510><c> John</c>

01:46:12.890 --> 01:46:14.810
John's<01:46:13.010><c> revelation</c><01:46:13.590><c> communicated</c>

01:46:14.890 --> 01:46:16.729
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01:46:16.729 --> 01:46:18.649
in<01:46:17.109><c> Revelation</c><01:46:17.130><c> 12</c><01:46:17.529><c> because</c><01:46:17.949><c> the</c><01:46:18.210><c> literal</c>

01:46:18.649 --> 01:46:20.670
genesis<01:46:19.590><c> can</c><01:46:20.189><c> be</c><01:46:20.449><c> used</c>

01:46:20.670 --> 01:46:22.590
symbolically<01:46:21.310><c> elsewhere</c><01:46:21.710><c> because</c>

01:46:22.590 --> 01:46:24.390
the<01:46:23.010><c> serpent</c><01:46:23.250><c> tile</c><01:46:23.569><c> characteristic</c>

01:46:24.390 --> 01:46:26.470
youth<01:46:25.130><c> generation</c><01:46:25.770><c> of</c><01:46:26.069><c> serpents</c>

01:46:26.470 --> 01:46:29.310
could<01:46:26.729><c> say</c><01:46:26.930><c> Jesus</c><01:46:27.390><c> and</c><01:46:27.829><c> could</c><01:46:27.970><c> say</c><01:46:28.090><c> John</c><01:46:28.350><c> the</c><01:46:28.529><c> Baptist</c>

01:46:29.310 --> 01:46:31.189
because<01:46:29.850><c> of</c><01:46:30.029><c> the</c><01:46:30.170><c> characteristic</c><01:46:30.489><c> of</c><01:46:30.750><c> the</c><01:46:30.890><c> serpent</c>

01:46:31.189 --> 01:46:33.090
alright<01:46:31.729><c> now</c><01:46:32.010><c> you've</c><01:46:32.310><c> explained</c><01:46:32.750><c> this</c>

01:46:33.569 --> 01:46:34.770
who<01:46:34.149><c> is</c><01:46:34.430><c> the</c><01:46:34.609><c> devil</c>

01:46:34.770 --> 01:46:36.930
in<01:46:35.050><c> Luke</c><01:46:35.289><c> chapter</c><01:46:35.689><c> 14</c>

01:46:36.930 --> 01:46:39.289
Luke<01:46:37.810><c> chapter</c><01:46:37.989><c> 14</c>

01:46:39.289 --> 01:46:42.869
you're<01:46:40.250><c> speaking</c><01:46:40.590><c> of</c><01:46:40.930><c> the</c>

01:46:42.869 --> 01:46:44.289
blessing<01:46:43.350><c> of</c><01:46:43.689><c> the</c><01:46:43.789><c> Lord</c>

01:46:46.930 --> 01:46:49.149
well<01:46:47.430><c> I</c><01:46:47.649><c> believe</c><01:46:47.869><c> that</c><01:46:48.090><c> what</c><01:46:48.149><c> you</c><01:46:48.390><c> have</c><01:46:48.609><c> in</c>

01:46:49.149 --> 01:46:51.369
Luke<01:46:49.569><c> chapter</c><01:46:49.989><c> 4</c>

01:46:52.649 --> 01:46:53.649
is<01:46:53.149><c> the</c>

01:46:53.649 --> 01:46:54.750
innate

01:46:56.329 --> 01:46:56.829
disdainfulness

01:46:56.829 --> 01:46:59.270
of<01:46:57.050><c> the</c><01:46:57.189><c> nature</c><01:46:57.489><c> which</c><01:46:57.750><c> Jesus</c><01:46:58.229><c> bore</c>

01:47:00.210 --> 01:47:00.710
because

01:47:00.710 --> 01:47:02.630
of<01:47:01.069><c> the</c><01:47:01.189><c> way</c><01:47:01.390><c> in</c><01:47:01.489><c> which</c><01:47:01.649><c> this</c><01:47:01.890><c> is</c><01:47:02.130><c> presented</c>

01:47:02.630 --> 01:47:04.930
in<01:47:03.569><c> Luke</c><01:47:03.829><c> chapter</c><01:47:04.149><c> 4</c><01:47:04.529><c> Jesus</c>

01:47:04.930 --> 01:47:06.609
full<01:47:05.149><c> of</c><01:47:05.310><c> the</c><01:47:05.489><c> Holy</c><01:47:05.689><c> Spirit</c>

01:47:06.609 --> 01:47:09.270
returned<01:47:07.310><c> from</c><01:47:07.550><c> the</c><01:47:07.729><c> Jordan</c><01:47:07.989><c> and</c><01:47:08.189><c> was</c><01:47:08.390><c> led</c><01:47:08.510><c> up</c><01:47:08.689><c> by</c><01:47:08.810><c> the</c><01:47:09.010><c> Spirit</c>

01:47:09.270 --> 01:47:10.609
for<01:47:09.529><c> forty</c><01:47:09.750><c> days</c><01:47:10.029><c> and</c><01:47:10.170><c> the</c><01:47:10.310><c> wilderness</c>

01:47:10.609 --> 01:47:12.189
tempted<01:47:10.970><c> by</c><01:47:11.270><c> the</c><01:47:11.369><c> devil</c>

01:47:12.289 --> 01:47:14.569
and<01:47:12.729><c> he</c><01:47:12.829><c> ate</c><01:47:12.949><c> nothing</c><01:47:13.250><c> in</c><01:47:13.470><c> those</c><01:47:13.670><c> days</c><01:47:13.970><c> and</c><01:47:14.170><c> when</c><01:47:14.390><c> they</c>

01:47:14.569 --> 01:47:15.869
were<01:47:14.829><c> ended</c><01:47:15.109><c> he</c><01:47:15.310><c> was</c><01:47:15.529><c> hungry</c>

01:47:16.310 --> 01:47:18.829
and<01:47:16.750><c> the</c><01:47:16.890><c> devil</c><01:47:17.090><c> said</c><01:47:17.390><c> to</c><01:47:17.510><c> him</c><01:47:17.630><c> if</c><01:47:17.789><c> you</c><01:47:17.970><c> are</c><01:47:18.130><c> the</c><01:47:18.270><c> son</c><01:47:18.369><c> of</c><01:47:18.529><c> God</c>

01:47:18.829 --> 01:47:20.890
command<01:47:19.189><c> this</c><01:47:19.569><c> stone</c><01:47:19.810><c> and</c><01:47:19.989><c> you</c><01:47:20.069><c> may</c><01:47:20.170><c> pray</c><01:47:20.489><c> it</c>

01:47:20.890 --> 01:47:22.149
and<01:47:21.310><c> so</c><01:47:21.550><c> on</c>

01:47:22.149 --> 01:47:24.550
now<01:47:22.869><c> do</c><01:47:23.010><c> you</c><01:47:23.109><c> think</c><01:47:23.270><c> if</c><01:47:23.430><c> you</c><01:47:23.550><c> were</c><01:47:23.729><c> hungry</c><01:47:24.069><c> you</c><01:47:24.289><c> would</c>

01:47:24.550 --> 01:47:26.630
eat<01:47:24.810><c> some</c>

01:47:27.109 --> 01:47:28.770
perhaps<01:47:27.550><c> I</c><01:47:27.750><c> should</c><01:47:27.949><c> ask</c><01:47:28.109><c> you</c><01:47:28.229><c> what</c><01:47:28.390><c> you</c><01:47:28.609><c> think</c>

01:47:28.770 --> 01:47:30.310
of<01:47:28.909><c> this</c><01:47:29.310><c> verse</c><01:47:29.750><c> do</c><01:47:30.010><c> you</c><01:47:30.149><c> think</c>

01:47:30.310 --> 01:47:32.630
the<01:47:30.529><c> devil</c><01:47:30.789><c> is</c><01:47:31.010><c> a</c><01:47:31.149><c> form</c><01:47:31.310><c> of</c><01:47:31.390><c> nature</c><01:47:31.609><c> that</c><01:47:31.930><c> you</c><01:47:32.090><c> view</c><01:47:32.189><c> the</c><01:47:32.369><c> devil</c>

01:47:32.630 --> 01:47:34.649
I'm<01:47:33.369><c> not</c><01:47:33.529><c> sure</c><01:47:33.630><c> what</c><01:47:33.850><c> you</c>

01:47:34.689 --> 01:47:35.630
hold

01:47:35.850 --> 01:47:38.470
well<01:47:36.289><c> I</c><01:47:36.729><c> understand</c><01:47:37.369><c> that</c><01:47:37.909><c> he</c><01:47:38.229><c> was</c>

01:47:38.470 --> 01:47:41.649
in<01:47:38.670><c> heaven</c><01:47:39.050><c> according</c><01:47:39.510><c> to</c><01:47:40.310><c> Isaiah</c><01:47:40.550><c> 14</c>

01:47:41.930 --> 01:47:42.649
no

01:47:42.649 --> 01:47:44.789
Isaiah<01:47:43.090><c> 14</c><01:47:43.489><c> doesn't</c><01:47:43.710><c> mention</c><01:47:44.029><c> him</c>

01:47:44.789 --> 01:47:46.630
the<01:47:44.949><c> devil</c><01:47:45.130><c> doesn't</c><01:47:45.750><c> appear</c><01:47:46.010><c> there</c>

01:47:46.630 --> 01:47:48.489
this<01:47:47.390><c> person</c><01:47:47.930><c> that</c><01:47:48.310><c> came</c>

01:47:48.489 --> 01:47:50.989
to<01:47:48.670><c> Jesus</c><01:47:49.090><c> Christ</c><01:47:49.609><c> called</c><01:47:49.970><c> the</c><01:47:50.170><c> devil</c>

01:47:51.289 --> 01:47:52.010
yes

01:47:52.010 --> 01:47:54.770
his<01:47:53.390><c> attack</c><01:47:53.729><c> on</c><01:47:53.989><c> this</c><01:47:54.229><c> individual</c>

01:47:54.770 --> 01:47:56.649
was<01:47:55.130><c> if</c><01:47:55.449><c> you</c><01:47:55.869><c> are</c><01:47:56.229><c> the</c><01:47:56.430><c> son</c>

01:47:56.649 --> 01:47:57.850
of<01:47:56.890><c> God</c><01:47:57.210><c> yes</c>

01:47:57.850 --> 01:48:00.329
I<01:47:58.390><c> want</c><01:47:58.670><c> you</c><01:47:58.890><c> to</c><01:47:59.149><c> change</c><01:47:59.329><c> this</c><01:47:59.689><c> bread</c>

01:48:00.329 --> 01:48:03.270
this<01:48:00.970><c> stone</c><01:48:01.949><c> into</c><01:48:02.409><c> bread</c>

01:48:06.050 --> 01:48:06.989
what<01:48:06.489><c> is</c><01:48:06.869><c> that</c>

01:48:06.989 --> 01:48:08.170
well<01:48:07.149><c> perhaps</c>

01:48:08.369 --> 01:48:09.449
I'll<01:48:08.810><c> conclude</c><01:48:09.189><c> now</c>

01:48:09.449 --> 01:48:11.289
it's<01:48:09.649><c> ten</c><01:48:09.789><c> o</c><01:48:09.989><c>'clock</c><01:48:10.130><c> and</c><01:48:10.289><c> I'm</c><01:48:10.449><c> going</c><01:48:10.489><c> to</c><01:48:10.489><c> stop</c><01:48:10.789><c> at</c><01:48:10.970><c> nine</c><01:48:11.090><c> thirty</c>

01:48:11.289 --> 01:48:13.329
but<01:48:11.430><c> I'll</c><01:48:11.609><c> just</c><01:48:11.789><c> say</c><01:48:11.949><c> this</c><01:48:12.210><c> in</c><01:48:12.310><c> reply</c>

01:48:13.609 --> 01:48:15.590
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01:48:15.590 --> 01:48:17.029
then<01:48:16.069><c> the</c><01:48:16.270><c> whole</c><01:48:16.510><c> significance</c>

01:48:17.029 --> 01:48:19.170
of<01:48:17.229><c> the</c><01:48:17.409><c> temptation</c><01:48:18.069><c> would</c><01:48:18.909><c> be</c>

01:48:19.170 --> 01:48:20.869
virtually<01:48:19.710><c> inadequate</c>

01:48:21.550 --> 01:48:22.789
because<01:48:21.989><c> if</c><01:48:22.390><c> the</c><01:48:22.569><c> being</c>

01:48:22.789 --> 01:48:24.869
who<01:48:23.069><c> talked</c><01:48:23.270><c> to</c><01:48:23.449><c> Jesus</c><01:48:23.890><c> was</c><01:48:24.109><c> the</c><01:48:24.310><c> being</c><01:48:24.449><c> that</c><01:48:24.649><c> you</c>

01:48:24.869 --> 01:48:26.810
think<01:48:25.050><c> of</c><01:48:25.590><c> a</c><01:48:26.310><c> beautiful</c>

01:48:26.810 --> 01:48:28.489
fallen<01:48:27.149><c> angel</c><01:48:27.630><c> which</c><01:48:27.909><c> is</c><01:48:28.130><c> the</c><01:48:28.289><c> usual</c>

01:48:28.489 --> 01:48:31.090
church<01:48:28.970><c> view</c><01:48:29.430><c> who</c><01:48:30.010><c> comes</c><01:48:30.229><c> along</c><01:48:30.609><c> to</c><01:48:30.770><c> Jesus</c>

01:48:31.090 --> 01:48:33.369
and<01:48:31.149><c> says</c><01:48:31.310><c> well</c><01:48:31.970><c> if</c><01:48:32.310><c> you're</c><01:48:32.550><c> the</c><01:48:32.710><c> son</c><01:48:32.810><c> of</c><01:48:33.029><c> God</c>

01:48:33.369 --> 01:48:35.409
why<01:48:33.729><c> don't</c><01:48:33.869><c> you</c><01:48:34.069><c> make</c><01:48:34.189><c> these</c><01:48:34.430><c> stones</c><01:48:34.689><c> into</c><01:48:34.970><c> bread</c>

01:48:35.409 --> 01:48:37.350
Jesus<01:48:36.329><c> would</c><01:48:36.630><c> recognize</c>

01:48:37.350 --> 01:48:39.109
him<01:48:38.010><c> by</c><01:48:38.710><c> seeing</c>

01:48:39.109 --> 01:48:41.670
him<01:48:39.590><c> that</c><01:48:39.869><c> he</c><01:48:39.970><c> was</c><01:48:40.289><c> saved</c><01:48:40.489><c> from</c><01:48:40.689><c> the</c><01:48:41.170><c> devil</c>

01:48:41.970 --> 01:48:43.029
there<01:48:42.489><c> is</c><01:48:42.670><c> no</c>

01:48:43.029 --> 01:48:45.750
temptation<01:48:43.890><c> when</c><01:48:44.109><c> you</c><01:48:44.310><c> have</c><01:48:44.449><c> an</c><01:48:44.729><c> obvious</c>

01:48:46.149 --> 01:48:47.649
instigator<01:48:46.670><c> who</c><01:48:46.930><c> you</c><01:48:47.149><c> know</c>

01:48:47.649 --> 01:48:49.229
is<01:48:48.390><c> pronouncing</c><01:48:48.890><c> something</c>

01:48:49.229 --> 01:48:51.289
to<01:48:49.430><c> you</c><01:48:49.710><c> incompatible</c><01:48:50.289><c> with</c><01:48:50.510><c> God's</c><01:48:50.850><c> word</c>

01:48:51.289 --> 01:48:52.810
have<01:48:52.130><c> you</c><01:48:52.310><c> ever</c><01:48:52.569><c> been</c>

01:48:52.810 --> 01:48:53.750
spoken<01:48:53.069><c> to</c><01:48:53.210><c> by</c><01:48:53.369><c> the</c><01:48:53.529><c> devil</c>

01:48:53.750 --> 01:48:56.710
has<01:48:54.710><c> he</c><01:48:54.890><c> talked</c><01:48:55.090><c> to</c><01:48:55.149><c> any</c><01:48:55.310><c> of</c><01:48:55.350><c> your</c><01:48:55.489><c> friends</c>

01:48:57.829 --> 01:48:59.829
have<01:48:58.350><c> you</c><01:48:58.449><c> ever</c><01:48:58.689><c> seen</c><01:48:58.869><c> him</c>

01:49:02.409 --> 01:49:02.890
no

01:49:02.890 --> 01:49:04.310
you<01:49:03.250><c> can't</c><01:49:03.630><c> see</c><01:49:03.850><c> the</c><01:49:04.069><c> devil</c>

01:49:04.310 --> 01:49:05.930
why<01:49:05.109><c> can't</c><01:49:05.489><c> you</c>

01:49:05.930 --> 01:49:07.670
did<01:49:06.449><c> he</c><01:49:06.649><c> literally</c><01:49:06.949><c> talk</c><01:49:07.270><c> to</c><01:49:07.470><c> Jesus</c>

01:49:07.670 --> 01:49:09.069
or<01:49:07.850><c> did</c><01:49:08.090><c> he</c><01:49:08.149><c> not</c>

01:49:09.170 --> 01:49:09.890
well<01:49:09.409><c> he</c><01:49:09.409><c> said</c>

01:49:09.890 --> 01:49:14.149
make<01:49:10.510><c> these</c><01:49:10.970><c> stones</c><01:49:13.189><c> into</c><01:49:13.810><c> bread</c>

01:49:14.149 --> 01:49:15.770
well<01:49:14.590><c> when</c><01:49:14.829><c> it</c><01:49:14.890><c> says</c><01:49:15.210><c> that</c><01:49:15.470><c> Jesus</c>

01:49:15.770 --> 01:49:17.250
answered<01:49:16.069><c> him</c><01:49:16.270><c> was</c><01:49:16.510><c> there</c><01:49:16.789><c> a</c><01:49:16.869><c> him</c><01:49:16.970><c> there</c>

01:49:17.250 --> 01:49:19.529
for<01:49:17.449><c> Jesus</c><01:49:17.649><c> to</c><01:49:17.850><c> answer</c><01:49:18.130><c> or</c><01:49:18.229><c> was</c><01:49:18.470><c> it</c><01:49:18.529><c> not</c>

01:49:19.630 --> 01:49:20.590
he<01:49:20.109><c> answered</c>

01:49:20.590 --> 01:49:23.270
so<01:49:21.069><c> he</c><01:49:21.250><c> was</c><01:49:21.449><c> there</c><01:49:21.670><c> to</c><01:49:21.729><c> talk</c><01:49:21.970><c> to</c><01:49:22.090><c> him</c><01:49:22.170><c> have</c><01:49:22.289><c> you</c><01:49:22.289><c> ever</c><01:49:22.470><c> had</c><01:49:22.590><c> this</c><01:49:22.770><c> communication</c>

01:49:23.270 --> 01:49:25.010
with<01:49:23.510><c> the</c><01:49:23.649><c> devil</c>

01:49:27.310 --> 01:49:29.149
had<01:49:27.789><c> any</c><01:49:28.010><c> of</c><01:49:28.210><c> your</c><01:49:28.210><c> friends</c>

01:49:31.470 --> 01:49:32.069
yes

01:49:32.069 --> 01:49:33.390
they<01:49:32.550><c> said</c><01:49:32.850><c> they</c><01:49:33.149><c> had</c>

01:49:33.390 --> 01:49:34.590
and<01:49:33.510><c> they</c><01:49:33.829><c> talked</c><01:49:34.130><c> to</c>

01:49:34.590 --> 01:49:36.170
talked<01:49:34.829><c> to</c><01:49:35.090><c> this</c><01:49:35.350><c> person</c>

01:49:36.569 --> 01:49:37.890
in<01:49:36.869><c> a</c><01:49:37.050><c> dialogue</c>

01:49:38.369 --> 01:49:40.510
what<01:49:38.670><c> Peter</c><01:49:39.170><c> said</c><01:49:39.529><c> resist</c><01:49:40.029><c> the</c><01:49:40.289><c> devil</c>

01:49:40.510 --> 01:49:42.489
and<01:49:40.710><c> he</c><01:49:40.869><c> will</c><01:49:41.029><c> flee</c><01:49:41.350><c> from</c><01:49:41.670><c> you</c>

01:49:42.449 --> 01:49:44.529
and<01:49:42.750><c> they</c><01:49:43.050><c> felt</c><01:49:43.350><c> that</c><01:49:43.710><c> this</c>

01:49:44.529 --> 01:49:46.529
legal<01:49:44.949><c> influence</c><01:49:45.590><c> that</c><01:49:46.189><c> came</c>

01:49:46.529 --> 01:49:48.630
with<01:49:46.829><c> his</c><01:49:47.029><c> power</c><01:49:47.630><c> they</c><01:49:48.130><c> addressed</c><01:49:48.430><c> him</c>

01:49:48.630 --> 01:49:50.569
as<01:49:49.069><c> the</c><01:49:49.229><c> devil</c><01:49:49.449><c> and</c><01:49:49.689><c> in</c><01:49:49.810><c> the</c><01:49:49.909><c> name</c><01:49:50.149><c> of</c><01:49:50.369><c> the</c><01:49:50.390><c> Lord</c>

01:49:50.569 --> 01:49:52.369
Jesus<01:49:50.970><c> Christ</c><01:49:51.470><c> they</c><01:49:51.710><c> resisted</c><01:49:52.289><c> him</c>

01:49:52.369 --> 01:49:54.609
can<01:49:52.689><c> I</c><01:49:52.890><c> say</c><01:49:53.050><c> this</c><01:49:53.430><c> in</c><01:49:54.090><c> the</c><01:49:54.270><c> bible</c>

01:49:54.609 --> 01:49:56.729
the<01:49:54.930><c> word</c><01:49:55.189><c> devil</c><01:49:55.630><c> always</c>

01:49:56.729 --> 01:49:58.229
means<01:49:57.189><c> a</c><01:49:57.569><c> slanderer</c>

01:49:58.229 --> 01:49:59.789
or<01:49:58.289><c> false</c><01:49:58.550><c> accuser</c>

01:50:00.010 --> 01:50:01.170
just<01:50:00.649><c> a</c><01:50:00.850><c> minute</c>

01:50:01.170 --> 01:50:03.170
let<01:50:02.149><c> me</c><01:50:02.470><c> go</c><01:50:02.670><c> through</c>

01:50:03.170 --> 01:50:06.130
Jesus<01:50:04.390><c> could</c><01:50:04.630><c> say</c><01:50:04.869><c> I've</c><01:50:05.289><c> chosen</c><01:50:05.529><c> you</c><01:50:05.829><c> twelve</c>

01:50:06.130 --> 01:50:07.909
and<01:50:06.289><c> one</c><01:50:06.449><c> of</c><01:50:06.569><c> you</c><01:50:06.670><c> is</c><01:50:06.869><c> the</c><01:50:07.010><c> devil</c>

01:50:07.909 --> 01:50:09.630
who<01:50:08.289><c> was</c><01:50:08.390><c> he</c><01:50:08.569><c> speaking</c><01:50:08.829><c> to</c>

01:50:09.630 --> 01:50:12.829
Judas<01:50:10.250><c> Iscariot</c><01:50:11.710><c> was</c><01:50:11.970><c> a</c><01:50:12.130><c> slanderer</c>

01:50:12.829 --> 01:50:14.289
a<01:50:12.930><c> false</c><01:50:13.210><c> accuser</c>

01:50:14.289 --> 01:50:16.750
the<01:50:14.890><c> apostle</c><01:50:15.310><c> Paul</c><01:50:15.630><c> could</c><01:50:15.850><c> address</c><01:50:16.130><c> the</c><01:50:16.390><c> women</c>

01:50:16.750 --> 01:50:19.149
being<01:50:17.210><c> not</c><01:50:17.810><c> false</c><01:50:18.189><c> accusers</c>

01:50:19.470 --> 01:50:20.109
slanderers

01:50:20.109 --> 01:50:22.390
and<01:50:20.609><c> so</c><01:50:20.869><c> here</c><01:50:21.170><c> where</c><01:50:21.409><c> we</c><01:50:21.689><c> have</c><01:50:21.930><c> the</c>

01:50:22.390 --> 01:50:24.510
innate<01:50:22.829><c> rebelliousness</c>

01:50:24.510 --> 01:50:26.569
that<01:50:25.109><c> mankind</c><01:50:25.949><c> have</c>

01:50:26.569 --> 01:50:28.510
always<01:50:27.310><c> inherited</c><01:50:27.949><c> from</c><01:50:28.250><c> their</c>

01:50:28.510 --> 01:50:29.670
forefather

01:50:29.810 --> 01:50:32.310
we<01:50:30.409><c> have</c><01:50:30.670><c> depicted</c><01:50:31.010><c> here</c><01:50:31.329><c> in</c><01:50:31.489><c> the</c><01:50:31.630><c> most</c><01:50:31.909><c> graphic</c>

01:50:32.310 --> 01:50:33.989
terms

01:50:34.289 --> 01:50:36.329
the<01:50:34.590><c> innate</c><01:50:35.470><c> rebelliousness</c>

01:50:36.329 --> 01:50:38.670
of<01:50:36.550><c> human</c><01:50:36.789><c> nature</c><01:50:37.289><c> personified</c>

01:50:38.670 --> 01:50:39.789
as<01:50:39.149><c> another</c><01:50:39.329><c> being</c>

01:50:39.789 --> 01:50:41.210
now<01:50:40.369><c> Paul</c><01:50:40.489><c> does</c><01:50:40.710><c> this</c><01:50:40.949><c> in</c><01:50:41.189><c> Romans</c>

01:50:41.210 --> 01:50:44.449
this<01:50:41.470><c> is</c><01:50:41.670><c> not</c><01:50:41.909><c> some</c><01:50:42.369><c> peculiar</c><01:50:42.850><c> mode</c><01:50:43.090><c> of</c><01:50:43.430><c> expression</c>

01:50:44.310 --> 01:50:45.949
Paul<01:50:44.609><c> speaks</c><01:50:44.890><c> of</c><01:50:44.989><c> this</c><01:50:45.170><c> all</c><01:50:45.449><c> through</c><01:50:45.649><c> Romans</c>

01:50:45.949 --> 01:50:47.930
when<01:50:46.149><c> he</c><01:50:46.350><c> personifies</c><01:50:46.909><c> sin</c><01:50:47.289><c> reigning</c>

01:50:47.930 --> 01:50:50.409
sin<01:50:48.409><c> reigned</c><01:50:48.710><c> up</c><01:50:48.850><c> to</c><01:50:48.989><c> death</c><01:50:49.130><c> as</c><01:50:49.350><c> a</c><01:50:49.489><c> monarch</c>

01:50:50.289 --> 01:50:52.609
he<01:50:50.590><c> speaks</c><01:50:50.810><c> about</c><01:50:51.130><c> being</c><01:50:51.390><c> slaves</c><01:50:51.810><c> to</c><01:50:52.050><c> sin</c>

01:50:52.609 --> 01:50:54.750
doing<01:50:52.970><c> the</c><01:50:53.189><c> basics</c><01:50:53.489><c> to</c><01:50:53.750><c> king</c><01:50:53.890><c> sin</c><01:50:54.109><c> doesn't</c><01:50:54.390><c> he</c>

01:50:54.750 --> 01:50:56.810
but<01:50:55.250><c> none</c><01:50:55.449><c> of</c><01:50:55.529><c> us</c><01:50:55.710><c> believe</c><01:50:55.989><c> that</c><01:50:56.229><c> sin</c><01:50:56.390><c> is</c><01:50:56.590><c> some</c>

01:50:56.810 --> 01:50:58.350
fallen<01:50:57.069><c> angel</c><01:50:57.470><c> being</c><01:50:57.689><c> do</c><01:50:57.909><c> we</c>

01:50:58.350 --> 01:51:00.789
we<01:50:58.970><c> all</c><01:50:59.170><c> understand</c><01:50:59.590><c> that</c><01:50:59.810><c> language</c><01:51:00.170><c> except</c>

01:51:00.789 --> 01:51:02.710
where<01:51:01.890><c> we've</c><01:51:02.130><c> been</c><01:51:02.310><c> invited</c>

01:51:02.710 --> 01:51:04.609
with<01:51:02.989><c> the</c><01:51:03.069><c> patients</c><01:51:03.430><c> of</c><01:51:03.689><c> outside</c><01:51:04.010><c> writers</c><01:51:04.329><c> like</c>

01:51:04.609 --> 01:51:06.850
Milton<01:51:05.590><c> who</c><01:51:06.390><c> presented</c>

01:51:06.850 --> 01:51:08.649
his<01:51:07.210><c> view</c><01:51:07.489><c> in</c><01:51:07.770><c> Paradise</c><01:51:08.210><c> Lost</c>

01:51:08.649 --> 01:51:10.649
of<01:51:08.850><c> the</c><01:51:09.010><c> devil</c><01:51:09.229><c> in</c><01:51:09.470><c> graphic</c><01:51:09.710><c> terms</c>

01:51:10.649 --> 01:51:12.630
or<01:51:11.130><c> Dante's</c><01:51:11.670><c> Inferno</c><01:51:12.149><c> with</c><01:51:12.430><c> the</c>

01:51:12.630 --> 01:51:13.390
demons<01:51:12.810><c> there</c>

01:51:13.390 --> 01:51:16.550
now<01:51:14.310><c> what</c><01:51:14.529><c> happens</c><01:51:14.890><c> in</c><01:51:15.069><c> Luke</c><01:51:15.229><c> chapter</c><01:51:15.489><c> 4</c><01:51:15.750><c> I</c><01:51:16.109><c> believe</c>

01:51:16.550 --> 01:51:18.770
is<01:51:17.170><c> that</c><01:51:17.329><c> the</c><01:51:17.489><c> devil</c><01:51:17.729><c> is</c><01:51:18.109><c> personified</c>

01:51:18.770 --> 01:51:20.909
here<01:51:19.430><c> and</c><01:51:19.989><c> is</c><01:51:20.229><c> really</c>

01:51:20.909 --> 01:51:22.710
the<01:51:21.310><c> sinful</c><01:51:21.930><c> tendencies</c>

01:51:22.710 --> 01:51:24.729
innate<01:51:23.210><c> with</c><01:51:23.390><c> human</c><01:51:23.590><c> nature</c>

01:51:24.729 --> 01:51:27.270
Jesus<01:51:25.210><c> wasn't</c><01:51:25.689><c> hungry</c><01:51:26.010><c> we</c><01:51:26.289><c> are</c><01:51:26.529><c> told</c>

01:51:27.270 --> 01:51:29.029
and<01:51:28.170><c> the</c><01:51:28.289><c> thought</c><01:51:28.529><c> came</c><01:51:28.810><c> to</c><01:51:28.930><c> him</c>

01:51:29.029 --> 01:51:30.850
if<01:51:29.189><c> you</c><01:51:29.329><c> have</c><01:51:29.529><c> the</c><01:51:29.710><c> Holy</c><01:51:29.930><c> Spirit</c><01:51:30.210><c> why</c><01:51:30.470><c> don't</c><01:51:30.689><c> you</c>

01:51:30.850 --> 01:51:32.670
make<01:51:31.090><c> these</c><01:51:31.310><c> stones</c><01:51:31.529><c> into</c><01:51:31.850><c> bread</c>

01:51:33.149 --> 01:51:34.949
and<01:51:33.630><c> he</c><01:51:33.909><c> banished</c><01:51:34.289><c> that</c><01:51:34.590><c> thought</c>

01:51:34.949 --> 01:51:37.069
and<01:51:35.109><c> said</c><01:51:35.210><c> no</c><01:51:35.470><c> man</c><01:51:35.729><c> shall</c><01:51:35.970><c> not</c><01:51:36.229><c> live</c><01:51:36.310><c> by</c><01:51:36.609><c> bread</c><01:51:36.810><c> alone</c>

01:51:37.069 --> 01:51:39.170
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01:51:39.170 --> 01:51:40.810
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01:51:40.810 --> 01:51:42.090
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01:51:42.090 --> 01:51:44.989
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01:51:44.989 --> 01:51:47.050
we<01:51:45.710><c> are</c><01:51:45.930><c> told</c><01:51:46.149><c> that</c><01:51:46.409><c> the</c><01:51:46.710><c> Spirit</c>

01:51:47.050 --> 01:51:48.149
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01:51:48.149 --> 01:51:50.310
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01:51:50.310 --> 01:51:52.649
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01:51:52.869 --> 01:51:54.569
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01:51:54.569 --> 01:51:57.010
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01:51:57.609 --> 01:51:58.729
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01:51:58.729 --> 01:52:00.229
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01:52:00.229 --> 01:52:01.729
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01:52:01.729 --> 01:52:04.229
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01:52:04.710 --> 01:52:06.430
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01:52:06.430 --> 01:52:08.170
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01:52:08.170 --> 01:52:10.789
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01:52:10.789 --> 01:52:12.210
and<01:52:11.609><c> appeal</c>

01:52:12.210 --> 01:52:14.869
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01:52:14.869 --> 01:52:16.149
and<01:52:15.710><c> similarly</c>

01:52:16.149 --> 01:52:17.729
he<01:52:16.350><c> could</c><01:52:16.569><c> make</c><01:52:16.970><c> bread</c>

01:52:17.729 --> 01:52:20.670
he<01:52:18.390><c> could</c><01:52:18.590><c> take</c><01:52:18.869><c> fish</c><01:52:19.130><c> and</c><01:52:19.350><c> feed</c><01:52:19.510><c> multitudes</c>

01:52:20.909 --> 01:52:22.130
so<01:52:21.369><c> why</c><01:52:21.649><c> not</c><01:52:21.890><c> use</c>

01:52:22.130 --> 01:52:24.350
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01:52:24.350 --> 01:52:26.229
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01:52:26.229 --> 01:52:28.130
of<01:52:26.430><c> the</c><01:52:26.510><c> world</c><01:52:26.989><c> no</c>

01:52:28.130 --> 01:52:30.050
Jesus<01:52:28.550><c> would</c><01:52:28.789><c> not</c><01:52:28.989><c> do</c><01:52:29.149><c> this</c><01:52:29.390><c> because</c><01:52:29.670><c> thou</c><01:52:29.850><c> shalt</c>

01:52:30.050 --> 01:52:32.170
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01:52:32.170 --> 01:52:33.449
shall<01:52:32.329><c> thou</c><01:52:32.550><c> serve</c>

01:52:33.989 --> 01:52:36.050
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01:52:36.050 --> 01:52:38.189
passage<01:52:36.409><c> which</c><01:52:36.729><c> I'll</c><01:52:37.350><c> cover</c><01:52:37.550><c> with</c><01:52:37.630><c> you</c><01:52:37.750><c> after</c><01:52:37.949><c> we</c>

01:52:38.189 --> 01:52:40.390
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01:52:40.390 --> 01:52:41.930
explanation<01:52:40.970><c> is</c><01:52:41.210><c> very</c><01:52:41.390><c> apparent</c>

01:52:41.930 --> 01:52:44.449
they<01:52:42.409><c> are</c><01:52:42.550><c> devils</c><01:52:43.029><c> and</c><01:52:43.310><c> Satan</c><01:52:43.510><c> doesn't</c><01:52:43.949><c> occur</c>

01:52:44.449 --> 01:52:46.670
I<01:52:45.170><c> think</c><01:52:45.350><c> you</c><01:52:45.609><c> won't</c><01:52:45.890><c> have</c><01:52:46.050><c> to</c><01:52:46.289><c> defer</c>

01:52:46.670 --> 01:52:48.090
with<01:52:46.930><c> this</c><01:52:47.270><c> discussion</c><01:52:47.630><c> after</c>

01:52:48.090 --> 01:52:50.109
if<01:52:48.529><c> you</c><01:52:48.949><c> do</c><01:52:49.149><c> not</c><01:52:49.630><c> solve</c>

01:52:50.109 --> 01:52:52.329
except<01:52:50.590><c> that</c><01:52:51.029><c> kind</c><01:52:51.229><c> of</c><01:52:51.369><c> very</c><01:52:51.569><c> much</c>

01:52:52.420 --> 01:52:54.409
well<01:52:52.670><c> I'm</c><01:52:54.270><c> sorry</c>

01:52:54.409 --> 01:52:55.810
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01:52:55.810 --> 01:52:57.109
I<01:52:55.989><c> hope</c><01:52:56.109><c> you</c><01:52:56.289><c> didn't</c><01:52:56.510><c> mind</c><01:52:56.649><c> very</c><01:52:56.930><c> much</c>

01:52:57.109 --> 01:53:00.069
I<01:52:58.050><c> enjoyed</c><01:52:59.489><c> the</c><01:52:59.789><c> discussion</c>

01:53:00.069 --> 01:53:01.689
I<01:53:00.310><c> wanted</c><01:53:00.550><c> to</c>

01:53:01.949 --> 01:53:04.109
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01:53:04.109 --> 01:53:05.630
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