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So<00:14:49.759><c> a</c><00:14:49.860><c> selective</c><00:14:50.240><c> quotation</c><00:14:50.779><c> has</c><00:14:50.980><c> been</c><00:14:51.240><c> used.</c>

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Another<00:14:54.559><c> quote</c><00:14:54.820><c> from</c><00:14:54.980><c> Brother</c><00:14:55.200><c> Roberts</c><00:14:55.419><c> they</c><00:14:55.700><c> use.</c>

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God's<00:14:58.000><c> revelation</c><00:14:58.399><c> does</c><00:14:58.700><c> not</c><00:14:58.860><c> enter</c><00:14:59.019><c> into</c><00:14:59.159><c> the</c><00:14:59.340><c> mysteries</c><00:14:59.779><c> of</c>

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molecular<00:15:00.679><c> physics.</c>

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Or<00:15:01.460><c> the</c><00:15:01.679><c> development</c><00:15:01.940><c> of</c><00:15:02.200><c> life.</c>

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Or<00:15:05.019><c> in</c><00:15:05.139><c> the</c><00:15:05.259><c> way</c><00:15:05.419><c> in</c><00:15:05.539><c> which</c><00:15:05.639><c> it</c><00:15:05.820><c> operates</c><00:15:06.120><c> on</c><00:15:06.360><c> material</c><00:15:06.679><c> organisms.</c>

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All<00:15:08.299><c> these</c><00:15:08.500><c> it</c><00:15:08.700><c> relegates</c><00:15:09.139><c> to</c><00:15:09.440><c> science</c><00:15:09.700><c> whose</c><00:15:09.899><c> function</c><00:15:10.240><c> is</c>

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to<00:15:10.659><c> investigate</c><00:15:11.179><c> them.</c>

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So<00:15:12.000><c> Brother</c><00:15:12.259><c> Roberts</c><00:15:12.500><c> was</c><00:15:12.700><c> saying</c><00:15:12.980><c> a</c><00:15:13.200><c> truth</c><00:15:13.340><c> that</c><00:15:13.500><c> we've</c><00:15:13.700><c> already</c><00:15:13.960><c> said</c>

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that<00:15:14.320><c> the</c><00:15:14.480><c> Bible</c><00:15:14.679><c> is</c><00:15:14.879><c> not</c><00:15:15.000><c> intended</c><00:15:15.379><c> to</c><00:15:15.519><c> be</c><00:15:15.720><c> a</c><00:15:15.879><c> science</c><00:15:16.159><c> manual.</c>

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It<00:15:17.340><c> doesn't</c><00:15:17.659><c> tell</c><00:15:17.840><c> you</c><00:15:18.059><c> how</c><00:15:18.440><c> God</c><00:15:18.659><c> did</c><00:15:18.919><c> things</c><00:15:19.179><c> so</c><00:15:19.500><c> much.</c>

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It<00:15:20.480><c> tells</c><00:15:20.659><c> you</c><00:15:20.860><c> what</c><00:15:21.080><c> God</c><00:15:21.320><c> did.</c>

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We<00:15:21.720><c> don't</c><00:15:21.840><c> have</c><00:15:21.980><c> to</c><00:15:22.120><c> know</c><00:15:22.240><c> how</c><00:15:22.539><c> God</c><00:15:22.740><c> works</c><00:15:23.019><c> miracles.</c>

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We<00:15:23.539><c> can't</c><00:15:23.899><c> explain</c><00:15:24.220><c> miracles.</c>

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We<00:15:24.720><c> never</c><00:15:24.960><c> will.</c>

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So<00:15:26.379><c> Brother</c><00:15:26.779><c> Roberts</c><00:15:27.019><c> says</c><00:15:27.179><c> don't</c><00:15:27.419><c> go</c><00:15:27.600><c> to</c><00:15:27.720><c> the</c><00:15:27.860><c> Bible</c><00:15:28.059><c> looking</c>

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for<00:15:28.620><c> scientific</c><00:15:28.960><c> explanations.</c>

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Leave<00:15:30.299><c> that</c><00:15:30.500><c> to</c><00:15:30.639><c> the</c><00:15:30.879><c> scientists.</c>

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It<00:15:33.220><c> doesn't</c><00:15:33.559><c> mean</c><00:15:33.980><c> that</c><00:15:34.120><c> we</c><00:15:34.419><c> accept</c><00:15:34.620><c> all</c><00:15:34.799><c> their</c><00:15:34.980><c> conclusions.</c>

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They<00:15:37.059><c> will</c><00:15:37.240><c> come</c><00:15:37.379><c> up</c><00:15:37.539><c> with</c><00:15:37.720><c> conclusions</c><00:15:38.120><c> which</c><00:15:38.320><c> are</c><00:15:38.500><c> based</c><00:15:38.639><c> on</c>

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the<00:15:38.879><c> fact</c><00:15:38.980><c> that</c><00:15:39.100><c> there</c><00:15:39.259><c> is</c><00:15:39.419><c> no</c><00:15:39.620><c> God.</c>

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So<00:15:40.080><c> we</c><00:15:40.100><c> can't</c><00:15:40.500><c> accept</c><00:15:40.679><c> those</c><00:15:40.980><c> conclusions.</c>

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So<00:15:43.379><c> science</c><00:15:43.820><c> can</c><00:15:44.019><c> help</c><00:15:44.179><c> us</c><00:15:44.360><c> to</c><00:15:44.539><c> understand</c><00:15:44.799><c> what</c><00:15:44.940><c> they</c><00:15:45.200><c> can</c><00:15:45.460><c> prove.</c>

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They<00:15:46.980><c> cannot</c><00:15:47.419><c> help</c><00:15:47.759><c> us</c><00:15:48.000><c> when</c><00:15:48.139><c> they</c><00:15:48.360><c> make</c><00:15:48.620><c> speculations</c><00:15:49.519><c> about</c>

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things<00:15:50.419><c> they</c><00:15:50.600><c> don't</c><00:15:50.820><c> understand</c><00:15:51.299><c> fully.</c>

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So<00:15:53.100><c> again</c><00:15:53.620><c> the</c><00:15:53.879><c> quotes</c><00:15:54.059><c> from</c><00:15:54.240><c> the</c><00:15:54.480><c> pioneers</c><00:15:54.860><c> are</c><00:15:55.580><c> dragged</c><00:15:55.840><c> up</c>

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and<00:15:56.379><c> misused.</c>

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Brother<00:15:59.200><c> Thomas</c><00:15:59.899><c> there</c><00:16:00.879><c> are</c><00:16:00.980><c> hints</c><00:16:01.200><c> casually</c><00:16:01.639><c> dropped</c><00:16:01.879><c> in</c>

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the<00:16:02.200><c> scriptures.</c>

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Which<00:16:03.440><c> would</c><00:16:03.720><c> seem</c><00:16:03.919><c> to</c><00:16:04.059><c> indicate</c><00:16:04.419><c> that</c><00:16:04.539><c> our</c><00:16:04.759><c> planet</c><00:16:04.919><c> was</c><00:16:05.139><c> inhabited</c><00:16:05.440><c> by</c><00:16:05.700><c> a</c>

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race<00:16:06.019><c> of</c><00:16:06.200><c> bearings</c><00:16:06.559><c> anterior</c><00:16:07.500><c> before</c><00:16:08.500><c> the</c><00:16:08.980><c> formation</c><00:16:09.419><c> of</c><00:16:09.639><c> man.</c>

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I<00:16:10.419><c> say</c><00:16:10.519><c> there</c><00:16:10.700><c> you</c><00:16:10.799><c> are</c><00:16:10.940><c> hominids.</c>

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Brother<00:16:13.799><c> Thomas</c><00:16:14.080><c> is</c><00:16:14.279><c> believing</c><00:16:14.519><c> in</c><00:16:14.759><c> hominids.</c>

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No<00:16:16.559><c> you</c><00:16:16.720><c> read</c><00:16:17.000><c> on</c><00:16:17.200><c> Brother</c><00:16:17.419><c> Thomas</c><00:16:17.720><c> is</c><00:16:17.960><c> saying</c><00:16:18.139><c> the</c><00:16:18.320><c> earth</c><00:16:18.440><c> was</c>

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populated<00:16:19.100><c> before</c><00:16:19.539><c> it</c><00:16:19.720><c> was</c><00:16:20.379><c> brought</c><00:16:20.519><c> to</c><00:16:20.700><c> a</c><00:16:20.879><c> catastrophe</c><00:16:21.340><c> state.</c>

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There<00:16:22.259><c> was</c><00:16:22.500><c> a</c><00:16:22.600><c> previous</c><00:16:22.940><c> race</c><00:16:23.179><c> of</c><00:16:23.379><c> people</c><00:16:23.539><c> lived</c><00:16:23.679><c> upon</c><00:16:23.940><c> this</c><00:16:24.179><c> earth.</c>

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So<00:16:25.799><c> it's</c><00:16:25.940><c> only</c><00:16:26.120><c> talking</c><00:16:26.460><c> about</c><00:16:26.919><c> a</c><00:16:27.259><c> prior</c><00:16:27.539><c> creation</c><00:16:28.000><c> on</c><00:16:28.220><c> this</c>

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planet<00:16:28.820><c> not</c><00:16:29.379><c> about</c><00:16:29.759><c> an</c><00:16:30.019><c> evolved</c><00:16:30.419><c> group</c><00:16:30.779><c> of</c><00:16:31.019><c> hominids.</c>

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But<00:16:31.480><c> you</c><00:16:32.360><c> see</c><00:16:32.480><c> they</c><00:16:32.639><c> just</c><00:16:32.940><c> quote</c><00:16:33.100><c> that</c><00:16:33.299><c> and</c><00:16:33.340><c> say</c><00:16:33.519><c> Brother</c><00:16:33.740><c> Thomas</c><00:16:34.139><c> agreed</c><00:16:34.500><c> with</c><00:16:34.720><c> hominids.</c>

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What<00:16:36.860><c> hints</c><00:16:37.259><c> does</c><00:16:37.480><c> Brother</c><00:16:37.740><c> Thomas</c><00:16:38.000><c> refer</c><00:16:38.399><c> to</c><00:16:38.759><c> throughout</c><00:16:39.120><c> scripture</c><00:16:39.460><c> that</c><00:16:39.700><c> suggests</c><00:16:40.139><c> a</c>

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prior<00:16:40.480><c> creation?</c>

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Good<00:16:44.419><c> question.</c><00:16:45.720><c> I</c><00:16:45.759><c> never</c><00:16:46.179><c> actually</c><00:16:46.440><c> looked</c><00:16:46.620><c> at</c><00:16:46.740><c> that.</c>

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You<00:16:47.759><c> want</c><00:16:47.919><c> to</c><00:16:48.100><c> say</c><00:16:48.279><c> the</c><00:16:48.919><c> second</c><00:16:49.220><c> Peter</c><00:16:49.580><c> 1?</c>

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He<00:16:50.919><c> actually</c><00:16:51.259><c> ties</c><00:16:51.480><c> it</c><00:16:51.639><c> to</c><00:16:51.779><c> the</c><00:16:51.960><c> fallen</c><00:16:52.120><c> angels</c><00:16:52.419><c> doesn't</c><00:16:52.700><c> he?</c>

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Which<00:16:53.659><c> of</c><00:16:53.799><c> course</c><00:16:53.879><c> we</c><00:16:54.019><c> don't</c><00:16:54.139><c> agree</c><00:16:54.379><c> with</c><00:16:54.559><c> the</c><00:16:54.759><c> application</c>

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to<00:16:55.320><c> the</c><00:16:55.539><c> angels</c><00:16:55.820><c> that</c><00:16:56.039><c> angels</c><00:16:56.279><c> are</c><00:16:56.480><c> waiting</c><00:16:56.639><c> judgement.</c>

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So<00:16:57.299><c> he</c><00:16:57.460><c> actually</c><00:16:58.080><c> ties</c><00:16:58.240><c> it</c><00:16:58.399><c> to</c><00:16:58.519><c> the</c><00:16:58.600><c> second</c><00:16:58.700><c> Peter</c><00:16:58.879><c> 1.</c>

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The<00:16:59.820><c> second</c><00:16:59.940><c> Peter</c><00:17:00.139><c> 2</c><00:17:00.379><c> about</c><00:17:00.600><c> the</c><00:17:00.860><c> angels</c><00:17:01.019><c> that</c><00:17:01.259><c> sinned.</c>

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The<00:17:07.519><c> everlasting</c><00:17:07.819><c> chains.</c>

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And<00:17:10.220><c> that's</c><00:17:10.559><c> what</c><00:17:10.660><c> he</c><00:17:10.799><c> actually</c><00:17:11.039><c> connects</c><00:17:11.279><c> it</c><00:17:11.420><c> to</c><00:17:11.480><c> you're</c><00:17:11.579><c> right.</c>

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So<00:17:13.220><c> I</c><00:17:13.500><c> mean</c><00:17:13.819><c> those</c><00:17:14.119><c> hints</c><00:17:14.400><c> we</c><00:17:14.579><c> probably</c><00:17:14.799><c> wouldn't</c><00:17:15.079><c> have</c><00:17:15.200><c> heard</c>

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in<00:17:15.380><c> the</c><00:17:15.519><c> same</c><00:17:15.700><c> way</c><00:17:15.859><c> as</c><00:17:15.980><c> by</c><00:17:16.079><c> the</c><00:17:16.220><c> time</c><00:17:16.299><c> I</c><00:17:16.420><c> stood</c><00:17:16.519><c> in</c><00:17:16.839><c> El</c><00:17:16.900><c> Pasisram.</c>

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That's<00:17:18.680><c> one</c><00:17:18.759><c> of</c><00:17:18.859><c> the</c><00:17:18.980><c> first</c><00:17:19.119><c> things</c><00:17:19.259><c> you</c><00:17:19.400><c> come</c><00:17:19.500><c> across</c><00:17:19.759><c> on</c><00:17:19.960><c> page</c><00:17:20.200><c> 10</c>

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is<00:17:20.599><c> you're</c><00:17:20.839><c> faced</c><00:17:21.119><c> with</c><00:17:21.319><c> this</c><00:17:21.759><c> idea</c><00:17:21.960><c> that</c><00:17:22.099><c> angels</c><00:17:22.319><c> are</c><00:17:22.460><c> locked</c>

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away<00:17:22.900><c> for</c><00:17:23.099><c> future</c><00:17:23.359><c> judgement</c><00:17:23.700><c> which</c><00:17:23.880><c> we</c><00:17:24.039><c> don't</c><00:17:24.220><c> accept.</c>

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When<00:17:24.980><c> was</c><00:17:25.180><c> Origin</c><00:17:25.440><c> of</c><00:17:25.640><c> Species</c><00:17:25.960><c> written?</c>

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1869?

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Yes,<00:17:29.119><c> it</c><00:17:29.119><c> was</c><00:17:29.420><c> after</c><00:17:29.720><c> Opus</c><00:17:29.980><c> Isra.</c>

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And<00:17:31.660><c> I</c><00:17:31.799><c> think</c><00:17:32.000><c> when</c><00:17:32.460><c> you</c><00:17:32.519><c> look</c><00:17:32.759><c> at</c><00:17:32.900><c> the</c><00:17:33.000><c> writings</c><00:17:33.200><c> of</c><00:17:33.420><c> Brother</c>

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Roberts,<00:17:35.200><c> of</c><00:17:35.380><c> course</c><00:17:35.599><c> some</c><00:17:35.819><c> of</c><00:17:35.859><c> you</c><00:17:35.980><c> have</c><00:17:36.140><c> said</c><00:17:36.319><c> what</c><00:17:36.480><c> happened</c><00:17:36.720><c> with</c><00:17:36.940><c> God.</c>

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He<00:17:38.559><c> develops</c><00:17:38.900><c> more</c><00:17:39.240><c> specifically</c><00:17:39.700><c> some</c><00:17:40.000><c> of</c><00:17:40.099><c> these</c><00:17:40.279><c> issues</c>

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because<00:17:40.900><c> they</c><00:17:41.059><c> were</c><00:17:41.220><c> now</c><00:17:41.400><c> around</c><00:17:41.759><c> him.</c>

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He<00:17:42.859><c> was</c><00:17:43.099><c> writing</c><00:17:43.420><c> this</c><00:17:43.779><c> is</c><00:17:43.920><c> what</c><00:17:43.980><c> happened.</c><00:17:44.400><c> These</c><00:17:44.660><c> were</c><00:17:44.839><c> the</c>

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issues<00:17:45.160><c> in</c><00:17:45.380><c> the</c><00:17:45.500><c> forefront</c><00:17:45.759><c> of</c><00:17:46.039><c> science.</c>

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You've<00:17:47.200><c> got</c><00:17:47.339><c> to</c><00:17:47.359><c> understand</c><00:17:47.660><c> Brother</c><00:17:47.880><c> Thomas</c><00:17:48.160><c> had</c><00:17:48.420><c> no</c><00:17:48.640><c> one</c><00:17:49.519><c> to</c>

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help<00:17:49.920><c> him</c><00:17:50.380><c> find</c><00:17:50.640><c> out</c><00:17:50.759><c> things.</c>

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He<00:17:51.119><c> had</c><00:17:51.200><c> to</c><00:17:51.319><c> work</c><00:17:51.519><c> it</c><00:17:51.640><c> out</c><00:17:51.740><c> for</c><00:17:51.880><c> himself</c><00:17:52.339><c> from</c><00:17:52.880><c> his</c><00:17:53.160><c> experience</c>

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in<00:17:53.720><c> the</c><00:17:53.900><c> Campbellites</c><00:17:54.440><c> and</c><00:17:54.559><c> so</c><00:17:54.819><c> forth.</c>

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And<00:17:56.140><c> Brother</c><00:17:56.619><c> Thomas</c><00:17:57.039><c> gave</c><00:17:57.420><c> us</c><00:17:57.619><c> so</c><00:17:57.779><c> much</c><00:17:57.980><c> brilliant</c><00:17:58.299><c> stuff</c>

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but<00:17:58.720><c> he's</c><00:17:58.980><c> human.</c>

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He<00:17:59.480><c> made</c><00:17:59.680><c> mistakes.</c>

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There<00:18:01.180><c> were</c><00:18:01.339><c> things</c><00:18:01.539><c> that</c><00:18:01.700><c> he</c><00:18:01.819><c> later</c><00:18:02.059><c> corrected</c><00:18:02.299><c> as</c><00:18:02.460><c> Brother</c>

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Roberts<00:18:02.920><c> corrected</c><00:18:03.319><c> later</c><00:18:03.660><c> on.</c>

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And<00:18:05.019><c> if</c><00:18:05.279><c> anyone's</c><00:18:05.519><c> ever</c><00:18:05.700><c> written</c><00:18:05.819><c> any</c><00:18:06.099><c> book</c><00:18:06.539><c> you</c><00:18:08.220><c> know</c><00:18:08.440><c> that</c>

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the<00:18:08.700><c> minute</c><00:18:08.819><c> it</c><00:18:08.940><c> goes</c><00:18:09.119><c> into</c><00:18:09.380><c> print</c><00:18:09.599><c> you</c><00:18:09.859><c> wish</c><00:18:10.039><c> you</c><00:18:10.259><c> hadn't</c><00:18:10.500><c> put</c>

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it<00:18:10.799><c> out</c><00:18:11.000><c> there</c>

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because<00:18:11.599><c> there'll</c><00:18:11.980><c> be</c><00:18:12.079><c> something</c><00:18:12.380><c> that</c><00:18:12.619><c> somebody</c><00:18:12.859><c> will</c><00:18:13.039><c> point</c><00:18:13.240><c> out</c>

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to<00:18:13.420><c> you</c><00:18:13.539><c> that</c><00:18:13.599><c> you</c><00:18:13.680><c> should</c><00:18:13.799><c> have</c><00:18:13.900><c> done</c><00:18:14.059><c> differently.</c>

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There's<00:18:15.400><c> one</c><00:18:15.599><c> reason</c><00:18:15.819><c> why</c><00:18:16.000><c> I've</c><00:18:16.460><c> particularly</c><00:18:16.779><c> avoided</c><00:18:17.099><c> ever</c>

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writing<00:18:17.559><c> any</c><00:18:17.799><c> books</c><00:18:18.119><c> because</c><00:18:18.720><c> you</c><00:18:19.460><c> can't</c><00:18:19.779><c> take</c><00:18:19.920><c> them</c><00:18:20.119><c> back.</c>

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Put<00:18:20.960><c> them</c><00:18:21.119><c> on</c><00:18:21.740><c> cyberspace</c><00:18:22.500><c> you</c><00:18:22.539><c> might</c><00:18:22.700><c> be</c><00:18:22.900><c> okay</c><00:18:23.140><c> but</c><00:18:23.240><c> you</c><00:18:23.380><c> can't</c><00:18:23.559><c> get</c>

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them<00:18:23.880><c> back.</c>

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So<00:18:26.259><c> Brother</c><00:18:26.539><c> Thomas</c><00:18:27.680><c> was</c><00:18:27.880><c> only</c><00:18:28.099><c> suggesting</c><00:18:28.420><c> a</c><00:18:28.619><c> prior</c><00:18:28.819><c> creation.</c>

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Same<00:18:29.480><c> with</c><00:18:29.619><c> Brother</c><00:18:29.839><c> Roberts,</c><00:18:30.359><c> 1868.</c>

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That<00:18:31.960><c> the</c><00:18:32.099><c> earth</c><00:18:32.200><c> had</c><00:18:32.380><c> a</c><00:18:32.579><c> history</c><00:18:32.980><c> prior</c><00:18:33.460><c> to</c><00:18:33.720><c> the</c><00:18:33.920><c> sixth</c><00:18:34.160><c> day's</c>

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work<00:18:34.940><c> is</c><00:18:35.200><c> certain</c><00:18:35.480><c> from</c><00:18:36.000><c> both</c><00:18:36.240><c> Scripture</c><00:18:36.559><c> and</c><00:18:36.779><c> nature.</c>

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Geology<00:18:37.799><c> proves</c><00:18:38.019><c> the</c><00:18:38.259><c> existence</c><00:18:38.500><c> of</c><00:18:38.700><c> forms</c><00:18:38.859><c> of</c><00:18:39.059><c> life</c><00:18:39.220><c> long</c>

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before<00:18:39.619><c> the</c><00:18:39.779><c> Mosaic</c><00:18:40.079><c> creation.</c>

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And<00:18:41.259><c> the</c><00:18:41.380><c> Bible</c><00:18:41.740><c> tacitly</c><00:18:42.539><c> affirms</c><00:18:42.920><c> a</c><00:18:43.119><c> pre</c><00:18:43.240><c>-Adamite</c><00:18:44.759><c> order</c><00:18:45.059><c> of</c><00:18:45.299><c> things.</c>

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And<00:18:46.180><c> again</c><00:18:46.400><c> as</c><00:18:46.559><c> well</c><00:18:46.680><c> as</c><00:18:46.759><c> taking</c><00:18:46.980><c> about</c><00:18:47.220><c> as</c><00:18:47.460><c> a</c><00:18:47.579><c> prior</c><00:18:47.779><c> creation.</c>

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Neither<00:18:48.759><c> of</c><00:18:48.900><c> them</c><00:18:49.000><c> believed</c><00:18:49.299><c> in</c><00:18:49.519><c> hominids.</c>

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And<00:18:51.380><c> you</c><00:18:51.880><c> know</c><00:18:51.960><c> this</c><00:18:52.099><c> is</c><00:18:52.299><c> just</c><00:18:52.539><c> using</c><00:18:52.839><c> quotes</c><00:18:53.299><c> completely</c><00:18:53.799><c> out</c>

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of<00:18:54.039><c> their</c><00:18:54.180><c> context</c><00:18:54.579><c> and</c><00:18:54.779><c> out</c><00:18:54.900><c> of</c><00:18:55.539><c> their</c><00:18:55.680><c> meaning.</c>

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You've<00:18:56.220><c> got</c><00:18:56.240><c> to</c><00:18:56.400><c> say</c><00:18:56.519><c> what</c><00:18:56.759><c> did</c><00:18:56.960><c> the</c><00:18:57.119><c> author</c><00:18:57.319><c> actually</c><00:18:57.700><c> believe?</c>

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And<00:18:59.279><c> none</c><00:18:59.400><c> of</c><00:18:59.539><c> these</c><00:18:59.740><c> brethren</c><00:19:00.019><c> believed</c><00:19:00.480><c> in</c><00:19:01.039><c> hominids.</c>

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A<00:19:03.119><c> little</c><00:19:03.220><c> bit</c><00:19:03.339><c> of</c><00:19:03.640><c> a</c><00:19:03.740><c> thing</c><00:19:04.039><c> somebody</c><00:19:04.440><c> put</c><00:19:04.660><c> together.</c>

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Brother<00:19:06.420><c> Thomas</c><00:19:06.779><c> says</c><00:19:06.980><c> to</c><00:19:07.099><c> Brother</c><00:19:07.279><c> Roberts,</c>

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You<00:19:07.559><c> know</c><00:19:07.859><c> Robert</c><00:19:08.119><c> with</c><00:19:08.380><c> our</c><00:19:09.019><c> alleged</c><00:19:09.400><c> unwavering</c><00:19:10.039><c> faith</c><00:19:10.299><c> in</c>

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science<00:19:10.839><c> it</c><00:19:10.980><c> seems</c><00:19:11.279><c> we</c><00:19:11.400><c> are</c><00:19:11.740><c> one</c><00:19:11.960><c> step</c><00:19:12.140><c> from</c><00:19:12.319><c> becoming</c>

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theistic<00:19:13.039><c> evolutionists.</c>

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You're<00:19:14.960><c> right</c><00:19:15.200><c> John</c><00:19:15.400><c> with</c><00:19:15.559><c> all</c><00:19:15.779><c> this</c><00:19:16.000><c> quote</c><00:19:16.240><c> mining</c><00:19:16.579><c> we</c><00:19:16.839><c> can</c>

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be<00:19:17.240><c> made</c><00:19:17.420><c> to</c><00:19:17.599><c> say</c><00:19:17.700><c> anything</c><00:19:18.019><c> and</c><00:19:18.200><c> support</c><00:19:18.420><c> anyone.</c>

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Even<00:19:19.140><c> people</c><00:19:19.440><c> we</c><00:19:19.599><c> were</c><00:19:19.819><c> opposed</c><00:19:20.079><c> to.</c>

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Brother<00:19:21.660><c> Carter</c><00:19:21.960><c> says,</c>

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You<00:19:22.660><c> too</c><00:19:22.839><c> brethren.</c><00:19:23.259><c> Well</c><00:19:23.420><c> apparently</c><00:19:23.700><c> I</c><00:19:23.980><c> asserted</c><00:19:24.400><c> that</c><00:19:24.500><c> the</c>

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BASF<00:19:25.019><c> is</c><00:19:25.440><c> defective</c><00:19:26.400><c> when</c><00:19:26.720><c> in</c><00:19:26.920><c> fact</c><00:19:27.039><c> I</c><00:19:27.160><c> was</c><00:19:27.359><c> defending</c><00:19:27.640><c> it</c>

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from<00:19:28.000><c> that</c><00:19:28.200><c> very</c><00:19:28.519><c> same</c><00:19:28.759><c> assertion.</c>

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It's<00:19:30.279><c> enough</c><00:19:30.420><c> to</c><00:19:30.619><c> make</c><00:19:30.799><c> one</c><00:19:31.039><c> turn</c><00:19:31.200><c> in</c><00:19:31.359><c> one's</c><00:19:31.720><c> grave.</c>

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And<00:19:33.740><c> you</c><00:19:34.220><c> know</c><00:19:34.359><c> if</c><00:19:34.460><c> these</c><00:19:34.720><c> brethren</c><00:19:35.000><c> were</c><00:19:35.500><c> around</c><00:19:35.819><c> today</c><00:19:36.099><c> to</c>

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see<00:19:36.400><c> how</c><00:19:36.519><c> they</c><00:19:36.619><c> were</c><00:19:36.700><c> being</c><00:19:36.940><c> quoted</c><00:19:37.200><c> by</c><00:19:37.440><c> the</c><00:19:37.619><c> theistic</c><00:19:37.859><c> evolutionists</c><00:19:38.420><c> they</c>

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would<00:19:38.700><c> be</c><00:19:38.859><c> horrified.</c>

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Brother<00:19:41.839><c> Walker,</c><00:19:42.220><c> now</c><00:19:42.519><c> this</c><00:19:42.839><c> is</c><00:19:43.059><c> the</c><00:19:43.220><c> one</c><00:19:43.440><c> which</c><00:19:44.019><c> they</c><00:19:44.380><c> love</c>

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and<00:19:44.980><c> they</c><00:19:45.319><c> always</c><00:19:45.660><c> throw</c><00:19:45.799><c> it</c><00:19:45.900><c> in</c><00:19:46.019><c> your</c><00:19:46.180><c> face.</c>

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Because<00:19:48.099><c> I</c><00:19:48.579><c> think</c><00:19:48.759><c> this</c><00:19:48.940><c> is</c><00:19:49.119><c> a</c><00:19:49.240><c> very</c><00:19:49.599><c> unhelpful</c><00:19:50.099><c> speculation</c>

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on<00:19:50.799><c> the</c><00:19:50.920><c> part</c><00:19:51.059><c> of</c><00:19:51.200><c> Brother</c><00:19:51.339><c> Walker.</c>

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1910<00:19:54.559><c> the</c><00:19:54.839><c> editor</c><00:19:55.059><c> of</c><00:19:55.160><c> the</c><00:19:55.220><c> Christadelphian</c><00:19:56.059><c> wrote</c><00:19:56.359><c> this,</c>

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It<00:19:56.640><c> does</c><00:19:56.880><c> not</c><00:19:57.079><c> seem</c><00:19:57.259><c> necessary</c><00:19:57.640><c> to</c><00:19:57.839><c> confine</c><00:19:58.279><c> the</c><00:19:58.460><c> allusions</c>

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of<00:19:59.079><c> the</c><00:19:59.220><c> first</c><00:19:59.819><c> chapter</c><00:20:00.119><c> of</c><00:20:00.279><c> Genesis</c><00:20:00.559><c> to</c><00:20:00.779><c> six</c><00:20:01.099><c> literal</c><00:20:01.359><c> days</c>

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on<00:20:02.660><c> the</c><00:20:02.819><c> last</c><00:20:03.019><c> of</c><00:20:03.180><c> which</c><00:20:03.380><c> man</c><00:20:03.559><c> appeared.</c>

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We<00:20:04.640><c> may</c><00:20:04.900><c> take</c><00:20:05.279><c> the</c><00:20:05.559><c> literal</c><00:20:05.799><c> view</c><00:20:06.259><c> and</c><00:20:07.220><c> yet</c><00:20:07.400><c> admit</c><00:20:07.619><c> an</c><00:20:07.880><c> allusion</c><00:20:08.279><c> to</c><00:20:08.500><c> six</c>

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periods<00:20:09.240><c> of</c><00:20:09.599><c> great</c><00:20:09.819><c> length</c><00:20:10.119><c> preceding</c><00:20:10.660><c> the</c><00:20:10.859><c> appearance</c><00:20:11.160><c> of</c><00:20:11.359><c> man.</c>

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Now<00:20:12.640><c> Brother</c><00:20:12.779><c> Walker</c><00:20:13.039><c> did</c><00:20:13.359><c> not</c><00:20:13.599><c> believe</c><00:20:13.839><c> in</c><00:20:14.019><c> evolution.</c>

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He<00:20:14.900><c> rejected</c><00:20:15.240><c> evolution</c><00:20:15.680><c> totally.</c>

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He<00:20:17.180><c> just</c><00:20:17.579><c> said</c><00:20:17.839><c> that</c><00:20:18.019><c> maybe</c><00:20:18.359><c> the</c><00:20:18.579><c> six</c><00:20:18.759><c> days</c><00:20:19.059><c> also</c><00:20:19.500><c> were</c><00:20:19.799><c> a</c><00:20:19.960><c> parable</c><00:20:20.160><c> of</c>

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some<00:20:20.640><c> six</c><00:20:20.980><c> long</c><00:20:21.240><c> periods</c><00:20:21.539><c> of</c><00:20:21.799><c> time</c><00:20:22.079><c> that</c><00:20:22.240><c> the</c><00:20:22.339><c> earth</c><00:20:22.460><c> has</c><00:20:22.599><c> been</c><00:20:22.779><c> around.</c>

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That's<00:20:23.200><c> what</c><00:20:23.319><c> he</c><00:20:23.480><c> actually</c><00:20:23.660><c> said.</c>

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You<00:20:24.319><c> can</c><00:20:24.519><c> believe</c><00:20:24.700><c> in</c><00:20:24.900><c> the</c><00:20:25.079><c> six</c><00:20:25.259><c> literal</c><00:20:25.519><c> days</c><00:20:25.740><c> of</c><00:20:25.960><c> Genesis</c>

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but<00:20:27.240><c> maybe</c><00:20:27.599><c> they</c><00:20:27.859><c> are</c><00:20:28.039><c> eluding.</c>

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Maybe<00:20:28.660><c> they're</c><00:20:28.940><c> a</c><00:20:29.059><c> parable</c><00:20:29.319><c> for</c><00:20:29.619><c> six</c><00:20:29.900><c> long</c><00:20:30.160><c> periods</c><00:20:30.500><c> before</c><00:20:30.880><c> that.</c>

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Maybe<00:20:32.119><c> six</c><00:20:32.440><c> previous</c><00:20:32.819><c> creations</c><00:20:33.279><c> he</c><00:20:33.440><c> was</c><00:20:33.579><c> thinking</c><00:20:33.859><c> about.</c>

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But<00:20:35.799><c> you</c><00:20:36.319><c> know</c><00:20:36.420><c> it's</c><00:20:36.700><c> a</c><00:20:36.819><c> speculation.</c>

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No<00:20:38.420><c> proofs</c><00:20:38.819><c> offered</c><00:20:38.940><c> anything</c><00:20:39.240><c> around</c><00:20:39.779><c> that.</c>

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But<00:20:40.400><c> that's</c><00:20:40.779><c> one</c><00:20:40.960><c> of</c><00:20:41.039><c> their</c><00:20:41.220><c> favourite</c><00:20:41.640><c> quotes</c><00:20:41.920><c> they'll</c><00:20:42.180><c> throw</c><00:20:42.339><c> at</c>

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you<00:20:42.720><c> because</c><00:20:43.839><c> Brother</c><00:20:44.279><c> Walker</c><00:20:44.599><c> seems</c><00:20:44.980><c> to</c><00:20:45.160><c> be</c><00:20:45.380><c> agreeing</c><00:20:45.619><c> with</c>

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the<00:20:45.960><c> view</c><00:20:46.099><c> that</c><00:20:46.240><c> there</c><00:20:46.460><c> was</c><00:20:46.680><c> space</c><00:20:46.920><c> for</c><00:20:47.160><c> hominids.</c>

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Now<00:20:48.799><c> he</c><00:20:48.940><c> says</c><00:20:49.140><c> nothing</c><00:20:49.400><c> about</c><00:20:49.680><c> hominids</c><00:20:50.160><c> there.</c>

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And<00:20:56.539><c> that's</c><00:20:57.299><c> again,</c><00:20:57.640><c> the</c><00:20:57.779><c> six</c><00:20:57.960><c> days</c><00:20:58.119><c> has</c><00:20:58.200><c> never</c><00:20:58.380><c> been</c><00:20:58.579><c> a</c>

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fellowship<00:20:58.960><c> issue.</c>

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But<00:20:59.660><c> just</c><00:21:00.000><c> be</c><00:21:00.180><c> aware</c><00:21:00.359><c> that's</c><00:21:00.640><c> the</c><00:21:00.779><c> one</c><00:21:00.940><c> quotation</c><00:21:01.460><c> which</c><00:21:02.079><c> you'll</c><00:21:02.440><c> have</c>

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really<00:21:02.880><c> trouble</c><00:21:03.740><c> saying</c><00:21:04.660><c> is</c><00:21:04.940><c> totally</c><00:21:05.220><c> quoted</c><00:21:05.460><c> out</c><00:21:05.660><c> of</c><00:21:05.880><c> context.</c>

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Because<00:21:06.500><c> Brother</c><00:21:06.759><c> Walker</c><00:21:06.940><c> did</c><00:21:07.160><c> open</c><00:21:07.400><c> the</c><00:21:07.539><c> door</c><00:21:07.740><c> to</c><00:21:08.059><c> the</c><00:21:08.299><c> six</c>

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days<00:21:08.700><c> meaning</c><00:21:08.980><c> something</c><00:21:09.339><c> else.</c>

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Okay,<00:21:13.519><c> well</c><00:21:13.960><c> we</c><00:21:14.400><c> have</c><00:21:14.599><c> to</c><00:21:14.700><c> be</c><00:21:14.880><c> careful</c><00:21:15.079><c> in</c><00:21:15.279><c> reading</c><00:21:15.440><c> the</c><00:21:15.660><c> Bible.</c>

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We<00:21:17.119><c> do</c><00:21:17.359><c> believe</c><00:21:17.819><c> God's</c><00:21:18.319><c> words</c><00:21:18.579><c> but</c><00:21:18.759><c> we</c><00:21:18.960><c> have</c><00:21:19.160><c> to</c><00:21:19.339><c> make</c><00:21:19.480><c> sure</c><00:21:19.619><c> we</c>

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don't<00:21:19.920><c> read</c><00:21:20.079><c> into</c><00:21:20.279><c> the</c><00:21:20.420><c> things</c><00:21:20.559><c> that</c><00:21:20.720><c> are</c><00:21:20.819><c> not</c><00:21:21.000><c> there.</c>

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For<00:21:22.480><c> example,</c><00:21:23.720><c> the</c><00:21:23.779><c> church</c><00:21:24.019><c> teaching</c><00:21:24.299><c> once</c><00:21:24.619><c> was</c><00:21:24.740><c> the</c><00:21:24.920><c> earth</c>

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was<00:21:25.299><c> flat</c><00:21:25.559><c> resting</c><00:21:25.859><c> on</c><00:21:26.140><c> foundations.</c>

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And<00:21:26.880><c> you</c><00:21:26.980><c> saw</c><00:21:27.079><c> the</c><00:21:27.259><c> pictures</c><00:21:27.440><c> of</c><00:21:28.019><c> a</c><00:21:28.319><c> flat</c><00:21:28.519><c> earth</c><00:21:28.700><c> with</c><00:21:28.880><c> elephants</c><00:21:29.200><c> underneath</c><00:21:29.660><c> it</c><00:21:29.859><c> and</c>

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pillars<00:21:30.339><c> holding</c><00:21:30.640><c> it</c><00:21:30.859><c> up.</c>

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That<00:21:31.680><c> was</c><00:21:31.859><c> how</c><00:21:32.019><c> men</c><00:21:32.240><c> saw</c><00:21:32.460><c> it</c><00:21:32.619><c> because</c><00:21:32.819><c> they</c><00:21:33.019><c> read</c><00:21:33.119><c> in</c><00:21:33.259><c> the</c><00:21:33.400><c> Bible</c><00:21:33.559><c> there</c><00:21:33.720><c> are</c>

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pillars<00:21:34.099><c> holding</c><00:21:34.420><c> the</c><00:21:34.599><c> earth</c><00:21:34.779><c> up.</c>

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So<00:21:36.660><c> you</c><00:21:36.759><c> can</c><00:21:36.980><c> get</c><00:21:37.099><c> it</c><00:21:37.299><c> wrong</c><00:21:37.460><c> if</c><00:21:37.640><c> you</c><00:21:37.940><c> adopt</c><00:21:38.119><c> a</c><00:21:38.339><c> simplistic</c><00:21:38.640><c> approach.</c>

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We<00:21:39.779><c> talked</c><00:21:40.019><c> about</c><00:21:40.279><c> the</c><00:21:40.480><c> sun</c><00:21:40.680><c> rotating,</c><00:21:41.259><c> the</c><00:21:41.380><c> church</c><00:21:41.539><c> got</c><00:21:41.720><c> that</c>

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one<00:21:42.099><c> wrong.</c>

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But<00:21:43.319><c> the</c><00:21:43.500><c> fact</c><00:21:43.599><c> that</c><00:21:43.799><c> the</c><00:21:43.920><c> church</c><00:21:44.119><c> made</c><00:21:44.359><c> mistakes</c><00:21:44.859><c> in</c><00:21:45.019><c> the</c><00:21:45.220><c> past</c><00:21:45.380><c> doesn't</c><00:21:45.640><c> mean</c><00:21:45.859><c> that</c><00:21:46.019><c> we</c>

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have<00:21:46.339><c> to</c><00:21:46.519><c> adopt,</c><00:21:49.240><c> you</c><00:21:49.400><c> know,</c>

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is<00:21:49.799><c> a</c><00:21:49.940><c> lesson</c><00:21:50.099><c> to</c><00:21:50.279><c> make</c><00:21:50.400><c> sure</c><00:21:50.519><c> we</c><00:21:50.740><c> do</c><00:21:51.000><c> adopt</c><00:21:51.259><c> correct</c><00:21:51.619><c> interpretations.</c>

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And<00:21:52.400><c> we</c><00:21:52.519><c> don't</c><00:21:52.779><c> actually</c><00:21:53.359><c> try</c><00:21:53.900><c> and</c><00:21:54.140><c> define</c><00:21:54.640><c> how</c><00:21:55.400><c> God</c><00:21:55.660><c> did</c><00:21:55.900><c> things</c><00:21:56.160><c> or</c>

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exactly<00:21:56.740><c> how</c><00:21:56.980><c> things</c><00:21:57.279><c> work</c>

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by<00:21:58.480><c> taking</c><00:21:59.140><c> Bible</c><00:21:59.400><c> passages</c><00:21:59.859><c> and</c><00:22:00.200><c> reading</c><00:22:00.480><c> the</c><00:22:00.660><c> wrong</c><00:22:00.839><c> way.</c>

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Flat<00:22:02.900><c> earth</c><00:22:03.059><c> believers</c><00:22:03.440><c> followed</c><00:22:03.740><c> the</c><00:22:03.980><c> science</c><00:22:04.200><c> of</c><00:22:04.339><c> their</c>

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day<00:22:04.680><c> until</c><00:22:04.920><c> circumnavigation</c><00:22:05.799><c> happened.</c>

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Somebody<00:22:06.380><c> went</c><00:22:06.660><c> that</c><00:22:06.940><c> way</c><00:22:07.140><c> and</c><00:22:07.220><c> come</c><00:22:07.400><c> back</c><00:22:07.599><c> that</c><00:22:07.799><c> way</c><00:22:07.960><c> and</c><00:22:08.059><c> they</c><00:22:08.180><c> thought</c><00:22:08.259><c> oh</c>

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And,<00:22:19.299><c> you</c><00:22:20.400><c> know,</c><00:22:20.660><c> people</c><00:22:20.819><c> didn't</c><00:22:21.000><c> believe,</c><00:22:21.359><c> people</c><00:22:21.539><c> believed</c>

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We<00:23:04.140><c> talked</c><00:23:04.259><c> about</c><00:23:04.420><c> the</c><00:23:04.619><c> sun</c><00:23:04.799><c> rising</c><00:23:05.059><c> and</c><00:23:05.339><c> setting,</c><00:23:05.940><c> you</c><00:23:06.079><c> know,</c>

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it's<00:23:06.700><c> the</c><00:23:07.039><c> observer</c><00:23:07.420><c> on</c><00:23:07.579><c> the</c><00:23:07.680><c> earth</c><00:23:07.819><c> sees</c><00:23:08.059><c> it</c><00:23:08.240><c> that</c><00:23:08.440><c> way</c>

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We<00:23:11.039><c> now</c><00:23:11.240><c> understand</c><00:23:11.599><c> the</c><00:23:11.740><c> foundation</c><00:23:12.240><c> of</c><00:23:12.420><c> the</c><00:23:12.579><c> earth</c><00:23:12.779><c> are</c><00:23:12.960><c> all</c>

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helped<00:23:19.940><c> us</c><00:23:20.099><c> to</c><00:23:20.279><c> understand</c>

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that<00:23:20.799><c> the</c><00:23:21.000><c> pillars</c><00:23:21.140><c> are</c><00:23:21.299><c> not</c><00:23:21.460><c> actually</c><00:23:21.859><c> columns,</c><00:23:22.680><c> they're</c>

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actually<00:23:23.220><c> laws.</c>

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So,<00:23:25.279><c> you</c><00:23:25.420><c> know,</c><00:23:25.480><c> we</c><00:23:25.680><c> still</c><00:23:25.880><c> believe</c><00:23:26.079><c> in</c><00:23:26.200><c> the</c><00:23:26.359><c> pillars</c><00:23:26.539><c> but</c><00:23:26.700><c> we</c>

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now<00:23:27.019><c> know</c><00:23:27.160><c> more</c><00:23:27.380><c> about</c><00:23:27.619><c> them.</c>

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So<00:23:28.740><c> you've</c><00:23:28.900><c> got</c><00:23:28.960><c> to</c><00:23:29.059><c> be</c><00:23:29.259><c> careful</c><00:23:29.500><c> in</c><00:23:29.680><c> not</c><00:23:30.099><c> reading</c><00:23:30.380><c> the</c><00:23:30.599><c> Bible</c>

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to<00:23:31.039><c> try</c><00:23:31.200><c> and</c><00:23:31.339><c> work</c><00:23:31.480><c> out</c><00:23:31.640><c> too</c><00:23:31.859><c> much</c><00:23:32.039><c> science.</c>

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It<00:23:32.359><c> wasn't</c><00:23:32.619><c> written</c><00:23:32.819><c> to</c><00:23:32.960><c> be</c><00:23:33.099><c> a</c><00:23:33.259><c> science</c><00:23:33.519><c> textbook.</c>

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We<00:23:34.960><c> would</c><00:23:35.180><c> have</c><00:23:35.339><c> to</c><00:23:35.480><c> believe</c><00:23:35.759><c> that</c><00:23:36.000><c> God</c><00:23:36.240><c> didn't</c><00:23:36.539><c> defy</c><00:23:37.039><c> the</c><00:23:37.220><c> laws</c><00:23:37.420><c> that</c><00:23:37.559><c> he</c>

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put<00:23:37.819><c> in</c><00:23:38.000><c> place,</c><00:23:38.400><c> right?</c>

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Yeah,<00:23:39.700><c> of</c><00:23:39.839><c> course</c><00:23:39.940><c> he</c><00:23:40.079><c> can.</c>

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Yeah,<00:23:46.660><c> I</c><00:23:46.680><c> mean</c><00:23:46.940><c> we</c><00:23:47.099><c> would</c><00:23:47.559><c> have</c><00:23:47.720><c> a</c><00:23:47.759><c> lot</c><00:23:47.960><c> of</c><00:23:48.119><c> difficulties</c><00:23:48.400><c> with</c>

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the<00:23:48.759><c> sun</c><00:23:48.859><c> standing</c><00:23:49.240><c> still</c>

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on<00:23:49.960><c> the</c><00:23:50.099><c> laws</c><00:23:50.240><c> that</c><00:23:50.400><c> we</c><00:23:50.579><c> understand.</c>

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But<00:23:51.720><c> God</c><00:23:51.839><c> can</c><00:23:52.079><c> suspend</c><00:23:52.400><c> these</c><00:23:52.640><c> laws.</c>

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I<00:23:53.500><c> mean</c><00:23:53.839><c> we</c><00:23:54.039><c> just</c><00:23:54.220><c> have</c><00:23:54.339><c> to</c><00:23:54.500><c> say</c><00:23:54.640><c> God</c><00:23:54.819><c> can</c><00:23:55.000><c> do</c><00:23:55.019><c> it.</c>

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We<00:23:55.160><c> don't</c><00:23:55.299><c> know</c><00:23:55.359><c> how</c><00:23:55.539><c> God</c><00:23:55.680><c> did</c><00:23:55.859><c> it.</c>

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You<00:23:57.099><c> know,</c><00:23:57.180><c> we</c><00:23:57.279><c> can</c><00:23:57.480><c> take</c><00:23:57.660><c> the</c><00:23:57.839><c> minimalist</c><00:23:58.119><c> approach</c><00:23:58.539><c> and</c><00:23:58.720><c> say</c>

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maybe<00:23:59.200><c> God</c><00:23:59.400><c> just</c><00:23:59.640><c> put</c><00:23:59.799><c> a</c><00:24:00.180><c> bright</c><00:24:00.359><c> angel</c><00:24:00.660><c> in</c><00:24:00.819><c> the</c><00:24:00.940><c> place</c><00:24:01.059><c> of</c><00:24:01.240><c> the</c><00:24:01.359><c> sun</c>

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so<00:24:03.240><c> that</c><00:24:03.460><c> the</c><00:24:03.660><c> light</c><00:24:03.859><c> continued</c><00:24:04.259><c> into</c><00:24:04.539><c> what</c><00:24:04.759><c> would</c><00:24:04.940><c> normally</c>

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be<00:24:05.339><c> night</c><00:24:05.660><c> time.</c>

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And<00:24:06.700><c> that's</c><00:24:07.700><c> the</c><00:24:07.799><c> simple</c><00:24:08.039><c> explanation,</c><00:24:08.539><c> isn't</c><00:24:08.759><c> it?</c>

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But<00:24:09.920><c> we're</c><00:24:10.380><c> not</c><00:24:10.559><c> told.</c>

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We<00:24:11.079><c> just</c><00:24:11.299><c> said</c><00:24:11.460><c> God</c><00:24:12.140><c> made</c><00:24:12.440><c> the</c><00:24:12.660><c> day,</c><00:24:12.960><c> from</c><00:24:13.099><c> the</c><00:24:13.299><c> point</c><00:24:13.440><c> of</c><00:24:13.539><c> view</c>

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of<00:24:13.720><c> the</c><00:24:13.839><c> observer,</c><00:24:14.259><c> it</c><00:24:14.319><c> made</c><00:24:14.500><c> the</c><00:24:14.579><c> day</c><00:24:14.759><c> longer.</c>

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The<00:24:16.400><c> sun</c><00:24:16.579><c> appeared</c><00:24:16.900><c> to</c><00:24:17.099><c> stand</c><00:24:17.319><c> still.</c>

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Okay,<00:24:20.000><c> so</c><00:24:20.400><c> I</c><00:24:20.619><c> want</c><00:24:20.700><c> you</c><00:24:20.779><c> to</c><00:24:20.839><c> come</c><00:24:21.000><c> to</c><00:24:21.099><c> the</c><00:24:21.220><c> 1</c><00:24:21.339><c> Corinthians</c><00:24:21.779><c> 15.</c>

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The<00:24:24.319><c> debate</c><00:24:24.599><c> in</c><00:24:24.779><c> 1</c><00:24:24.940><c> Corinthians</c><00:24:25.240><c> 15</c><00:24:25.640><c> was</c><00:24:26.420><c> whether</c><00:24:27.500><c> there</c><00:24:27.619><c> will</c>

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be<00:24:27.960><c> a</c><00:24:28.180><c> bodily</c><00:24:28.440><c> resurrection.</c>

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So<00:24:29.680><c> the</c><00:24:29.799><c> whole</c><00:24:30.099><c> debate</c><00:24:30.680><c> is</c><00:24:31.480><c> about</c><00:24:31.779><c> whether</c><00:24:31.960><c> or</c><00:24:32.119><c> not</c><00:24:32.619><c> there</c><00:24:32.819><c> will</c><00:24:32.980><c> be</c>

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a<00:24:33.380><c> bodily</c><00:24:33.619><c> resurrection</c>

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and<00:24:34.299><c> with</c><00:24:34.460><c> what</c><00:24:34.720><c> nature</c><00:24:35.079><c> did</c><00:24:35.579><c> the</c><00:24:35.720><c> dead</c><00:24:35.920><c> come</c><00:24:36.220><c> forth?</c>

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So,<00:24:39.799><c> you</c><00:24:39.799><c> know,</c><00:24:40.240><c> Paul</c><00:24:40.599><c> deals</c><00:24:41.859><c> with</c><00:24:42.019><c> this</c><00:24:42.180><c> in</c><00:24:42.299><c> a</c><00:24:42.380><c> number</c><00:24:42.559><c> of</c><00:24:42.720><c> ways.</c>

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And<00:24:43.460><c> he's</c><00:24:43.839><c> trying</c><00:24:43.980><c> to</c><00:24:44.099><c> establish</c><00:24:44.480><c> the</c><00:24:44.759><c> miracle</c><00:24:45.160><c> of</c><00:24:45.319><c> resurrection,</c>

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which<00:24:46.519><c> included</c><00:24:46.859><c> the</c><00:24:47.079><c> resurrection</c><00:24:47.400><c> of</c><00:24:47.599><c> Christ</c><00:24:47.900><c> and</c><00:24:48.059><c> the</c><00:24:48.259><c> future</c><00:24:48.440><c> resurrection</c><00:24:48.859><c> of</c><00:24:49.119><c> believers.</c>

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So<00:24:49.420><c> he's</c><00:24:49.759><c> trying</c><00:24:49.920><c> to</c><00:24:50.160><c> establish</c><00:24:50.500><c> a</c><00:24:50.740><c> miracle.</c>

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And<00:24:51.059><c> look</c><00:24:51.180><c> at</c><00:24:51.259><c> the</c><00:24:51.319><c> way</c><00:24:51.400><c> he</c><00:24:51.539><c> does</c><00:24:51.740><c> it.</c>

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So<00:24:53.000><c> it's</c><00:24:53.380><c> according</c><00:24:53.640><c> to</c><00:24:53.839><c> the</c><00:24:54.019><c> Scriptures</c><00:24:54.420><c> in</c><00:24:54.720><c> verse</c><00:24:54.900><c> 3</c><00:24:55.140><c> and</c><00:24:55.339><c> 4.</c>

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Both<00:24:55.880><c> verses</c><00:24:56.180><c> end</c><00:24:56.359><c> up</c><00:24:56.480><c> with</c><00:24:56.920><c> according</c><00:24:57.279><c> to</c><00:24:57.460><c> the</c><00:24:57.640><c> Scriptures.</c>

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Christ<00:24:58.559><c> rose</c><00:24:59.059><c> according</c><00:24:59.579><c> to</c><00:24:59.779><c> the</c><00:24:59.980><c> Scriptures.</c>

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So<00:25:01.140><c> you've</c><00:25:02.359><c> got</c><00:25:02.539><c> Scriptures</c><00:25:02.920><c> that</c><00:25:03.200><c> tell</c><00:25:03.359><c> you</c><00:25:03.519><c> it's</c><00:25:03.720><c> going</c><00:25:03.819><c> to</c><00:25:03.960><c> happen.</c>

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That's<00:25:04.559><c> number</c><00:25:04.799><c> one</c><00:25:05.039><c> proof,</c><00:25:05.819><c> including</c><00:25:06.099><c> types,</c>

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because<00:25:07.039><c> you</c><00:25:07.140><c> can't</c><00:25:07.420><c> be</c><00:25:07.480><c> the</c><00:25:07.599><c> resurrection</c><00:25:07.920><c> without</c><00:25:08.180><c> a</c><00:25:08.400><c> type.</c>

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Then<00:25:09.480><c> you've</c><00:25:09.720><c> got</c><00:25:09.819><c> the</c><00:25:10.059><c> eyewitnesses</c><00:25:10.640><c> in</c><00:25:10.779><c> verse</c><00:25:10.980><c> 5</c><00:25:11.299><c> to</c><00:25:11.440><c> 8.</c>

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So<00:25:12.119><c> Jesus</c><00:25:12.500><c> rose</c><00:25:12.799><c> and</c><00:25:12.880><c> the</c><00:25:13.059><c> dead</c><00:25:13.160><c> were</c><00:25:13.319><c> seen</c><00:25:13.500><c> by</c><00:25:13.799><c> Cephas</c><00:25:14.180><c> and</c>

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500<00:25:14.819><c> and</c><00:25:15.039><c> James,</c><00:25:15.720><c> etc.</c>

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So<00:25:17.000><c> miracles</c><00:25:17.240><c> are</c><00:25:17.480><c> established</c><00:25:17.900><c> by</c><00:25:19.000><c> the</c><00:25:19.440><c> Scriptures</c><00:25:19.720><c> say</c>

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they<00:25:20.180><c> happened.</c>

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Then<00:25:21.480><c> you've</c><00:25:21.740><c> got</c><00:25:21.859><c> people</c><00:25:22.160><c> who</c><00:25:22.380><c> saw</c><00:25:22.559><c> them</c><00:25:22.759><c> happen.</c>

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Then<00:25:23.700><c> you've</c><00:25:23.960><c> got</c><00:25:24.259><c> doctoral</c><00:25:24.700><c> implications.</c>

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So<00:25:25.819><c> what</c><00:25:25.960><c> are</c><00:25:26.059><c> the</c><00:25:26.220><c> implications?</c>

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Well,<00:25:27.660><c> verse</c><00:25:27.880><c> 13</c><00:25:28.220><c> to</c><00:25:28.339><c> 19,</c><00:25:28.880><c> if</c><00:25:29.039><c> Christ</c><00:25:29.339><c> is</c><00:25:29.579><c> not</c><00:25:29.779><c> raised,</c><00:25:30.180><c> you're</c>

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dead<00:25:30.420><c> in</c><00:25:30.579><c> your</c><00:25:30.819><c> sins</c>

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and<00:25:31.619><c> your</c><00:25:31.920><c> hope</c><00:25:32.099><c> is</c><00:25:32.319><c> useless.</c>

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So<00:25:33.700><c> if</c><00:25:33.799><c> there's</c><00:25:34.000><c> no</c><00:25:34.160><c> resurrection,</c><00:25:34.799><c> there</c><00:25:34.859><c> are</c><00:25:35.039><c> doctoral</c><00:25:35.299><c> implications.</c>

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So<00:25:36.880><c> a</c><00:25:37.200><c> miracle</c><00:25:37.380><c> has</c><00:25:37.720><c> doctoral</c><00:25:38.000><c> implications.</c>

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It<00:25:40.740><c> can</c><00:25:40.920><c> have</c><00:25:41.099><c> a</c><00:25:41.740><c> bad</c><00:25:42.000><c> moral</c><00:25:42.339><c> outcome.</c>

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You<00:25:43.680><c> get</c><00:25:43.859><c> that</c><00:25:44.119><c> in</c><00:25:44.339><c> verse</c><00:25:44.579><c> 19</c><00:25:45.039><c> and</c><00:25:45.220><c> verse</c><00:25:45.480><c> 32.</c>

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So<00:25:46.740><c> one</c><00:25:46.900><c> of</c><00:25:47.000><c> them</c><00:25:47.140><c> is</c><00:25:47.740><c> we're</c><00:25:47.960><c> all</c><00:25:48.119><c> men</c><00:25:48.299><c> most</c><00:25:48.619><c> miserable</c><00:25:49.079><c> or</c><00:25:49.579><c> to</c>

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be<00:25:49.940><c> pitied,</c>

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we<00:25:50.400><c> become</c><00:25:51.039><c> objects</c><00:25:51.579><c> of</c><00:25:52.099><c> humiliation</c><00:25:52.740><c> if</c><00:25:52.920><c> we've</c><00:25:53.140><c> got</c><00:25:53.240><c> no</c><00:25:53.480><c> hope</c>

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of<00:25:53.920><c> resurrection.</c>

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Verse<00:25:55.059><c> 32,</c><00:25:56.859><c> we</c><00:25:56.880><c> say</c><00:25:57.079><c> to</c><00:25:57.220><c> ourselves,</c><00:25:57.740><c> well,</c><00:25:57.779><c> why</c><00:25:57.960><c> do</c><00:25:58.079><c> I</c><00:25:58.220><c> bother?</c>

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I<00:25:58.619><c> might</c><00:25:58.680><c> as</c><00:25:58.859><c> well</c><00:25:58.859><c> go</c><00:25:58.960><c> and</c><00:25:59.039><c> eat,</c><00:25:59.180><c> drink</c><00:25:59.339><c> and</c><00:25:59.400><c> be</c><00:25:59.599><c> merry</c><00:25:59.779><c> and</c>

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enjoy<00:26:00.160><c> myself</c>

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because<00:26:02.440><c> there's</c><00:26:02.859><c> no</c><00:26:03.059><c> future.</c>

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So<00:26:05.160><c> a</c><00:26:06.019><c> miracle</c><00:26:06.420><c> can</c><00:26:08.640><c> be</c><00:26:09.160><c> examined</c><00:26:09.619><c> by</c><00:26:09.880><c> what</c><00:26:10.259><c> is</c><00:26:10.500><c> the</c><00:26:10.680><c> outcomes</c>

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of<00:26:11.619><c> this</c><00:26:11.859><c> particular</c><00:26:12.339><c> belief.</c>

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So<00:26:13.319><c> any</c><00:26:13.660><c> belief</c><00:26:13.940><c> you</c><00:26:14.200><c> have,</c><00:26:14.440><c> whether</c><00:26:14.599><c> it's,</c><00:26:14.940><c> in</c><00:26:15.059><c> this</c><00:26:15.259><c> case,</c>

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believing<00:26:15.740><c> in</c><00:26:15.880><c> the</c><00:26:16.019><c> resurrection</c><00:26:16.359><c> or</c><00:26:16.559><c> not</c><00:26:16.779><c> believing</c><00:26:17.019><c> in</c><00:26:17.160><c> the</c><00:26:17.279><c> resurrection</c>

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or<00:26:18.619><c> believing</c><00:26:18.980><c> in</c><00:26:19.339><c> theistic</c><00:26:19.559><c> evolution</c><00:26:19.980><c> or</c><00:26:20.160><c> not</c><00:26:20.400><c> believing</c>

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in<00:26:20.839><c> theistic</c><00:26:20.960><c> evolution</c>

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has<00:26:21.380><c> got</c><00:26:21.599><c> to</c><00:26:21.720><c> be</c><00:26:22.079><c> explained</c><00:26:22.519><c> according</c><00:26:23.059><c> to</c><00:26:23.259><c> these</c><00:26:23.440><c> principles.</c>

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Does<00:26:24.799><c> it</c><00:26:24.940><c> bring</c><00:26:25.180><c> a</c><00:26:25.440><c> good</c><00:26:25.700><c> moral</c><00:26:25.920><c> outcome?</c>

00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:28.039
Does<00:26:26.440><c> it</c><00:26:26.559><c> have</c><00:26:26.720><c> good</c><00:26:26.940><c> results?</c>

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Miracles<00:26:30.940><c> defy</c><00:26:31.420><c> scientific</c><00:26:31.839><c> explanations.</c>

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They<00:26:33.119><c> don't</c><00:26:33.400><c> have</c><00:26:33.740><c> to</c><00:26:33.880><c> be</c><00:26:34.160><c> explained</c><00:26:34.380><c> in</c><00:26:34.579><c> scientific</c><00:26:34.960><c> terms</c>

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and<00:26:36.339><c> God</c><00:26:36.559><c> can</c><00:26:36.759><c> do</c><00:26:36.859><c> what</c><00:26:37.000><c> he</c><00:26:37.180><c> pleases.</c>

00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:38.640
So<00:26:37.640><c> when</c><00:26:37.779><c> you</c><00:26:37.880><c> go</c><00:26:38.019><c> through</c><00:26:38.220><c> Corinthians,</c>

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resurrection<00:26:39.220><c> is</c><00:26:39.500><c> examined</c><00:26:39.859><c> in</c><00:26:40.940><c> those</c><00:26:41.220><c> waves.</c>

00:26:42.519 --> 00:26:43.579
And<00:26:42.660><c> we've</c><00:26:42.779><c> got</c><00:26:42.839><c> to</c><00:26:42.920><c> say</c><00:26:43.140><c> to</c><00:26:43.259><c> ourselves,</c>

00:26:43.720 --> 00:26:48.660
well,<00:26:43.920><c> how</c><00:26:44.319><c> is</c><00:26:44.559><c> that</c><00:26:44.759><c> then</c><00:26:44.980><c> applied</c><00:26:45.240><c> to</c><00:26:45.500><c> this</c><00:26:46.619><c> matter</c><00:26:47.299><c> of</c><00:26:47.559><c> the</c><00:26:47.779><c> creation?</c>

00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:51.900
So<00:26:50.240><c> I</c><00:26:50.680><c> know</c><00:26:50.859><c> it's</c><00:26:51.000><c> hard</c><00:26:51.200><c> to</c><00:26:51.319><c> get</c><00:26:51.380><c> these</c><00:26:51.619><c> down,</c>

00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:54.880
but<00:26:52.059><c> you</c><00:26:52.279><c> will</c><00:26:52.400><c> get</c><00:26:52.500><c> a</c><00:26:52.619><c> copy</c><00:26:52.799><c> of</c><00:26:52.940><c> all</c><00:26:53.079><c> this</c><00:26:53.180><c> later</c><00:26:53.480><c> on.</c>

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What<00:26:55.900><c> about</c><00:26:56.119><c> the</c><00:26:56.319><c> creation</c><00:26:56.559><c> miracle?</c>

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Was<00:26:57.500><c> evolution</c><00:26:58.119><c> used?</c>

00:26:58.519 --> 00:27:01.000
Well,<00:26:58.740><c> the</c><00:26:58.900><c> scripture</c><00:26:59.160><c> decides,</c><00:27:00.200><c> so</c><00:27:00.359><c> you</c><00:27:00.480><c> look</c><00:27:00.579><c> at</c><00:27:00.680><c> the</c><00:27:00.839><c> scripture.</c>

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What<00:27:01.200><c> does</c><00:27:01.420><c> the</c><00:27:01.579><c> scripture</c><00:27:01.839><c> say?</c>

00:27:02.240 --> 00:27:05.640
The<00:27:02.359><c> scripture</c><00:27:02.579><c> says</c><00:27:02.900><c> it</c><00:27:03.240><c> happened,</c><00:27:03.920><c> God</c><00:27:04.200><c> said,</c><00:27:04.579><c> and</c><00:27:04.799><c> it</c><00:27:05.019><c> was</c><00:27:05.319><c> so.</c>

00:27:05.859 --> 00:27:08.920
Let<00:27:06.000><c> there</c><00:27:06.180><c> be</c><00:27:06.359><c> animals,</c><00:27:06.900><c> they</c><00:27:07.220><c> happened</c><00:27:07.519><c> the</c><00:27:07.839><c> same</c><00:27:08.079><c> day.</c>

00:27:08.980 --> 00:27:11.559
Let<00:27:09.119><c> there</c><00:27:09.319><c> be</c><00:27:09.519><c> this,</c><00:27:09.819><c> it</c><00:27:10.079><c> happened</c><00:27:10.259><c> the</c><00:27:10.500><c> same</c><00:27:10.720><c> day.</c>

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So<00:27:12.440><c> you</c><00:27:12.839><c> go</c><00:27:13.000><c> to</c><00:27:13.140><c> the</c><00:27:13.279><c> scriptures</c><00:27:13.539><c> first.</c>

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That's<00:27:14.180><c> the</c><00:27:14.319><c> first</c><00:27:14.559><c> place</c><00:27:14.799><c> you</c><00:27:14.960><c> go.</c>

00:27:15.099 --> 00:27:16.500
You<00:27:15.259><c> go</c><00:27:15.460><c> to</c><00:27:15.539><c> what</c><00:27:15.660><c> the</c><00:27:15.940><c> Bible</c><00:27:16.220><c> said.</c>

00:27:16.500 --> 00:27:18.240
The<00:27:16.740><c> Bible</c><00:27:16.900><c> said</c><00:27:17.099><c> it</c><00:27:17.200><c> happened.</c>

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You<00:27:18.900><c> go</c><00:27:19.079><c> for</c><00:27:19.240><c> the</c><00:27:19.359><c> witnesses.</c>

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Who<00:27:19.900><c> was</c><00:27:20.140><c> there?</c>

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God<00:27:22.099><c> and</c><00:27:22.259><c> the</c><00:27:22.440><c> angels.</c>

00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:26.460
You<00:27:24.480><c> can</c><00:27:24.660><c> read</c><00:27:24.759><c> what</c><00:27:24.859><c> they</c><00:27:25.039><c> said</c><00:27:25.160><c> in</c><00:27:25.259><c> the</c><00:27:25.299><c> book</c><00:27:25.440><c> of</c><00:27:25.619><c> Job.</c>

00:27:26.619 --> 00:27:28.799
God<00:27:26.799><c> describes</c><00:27:27.279><c> what</c><00:27:27.500><c> happened</c><00:27:27.799><c> at</c><00:27:28.000><c> the</c><00:27:28.140><c> time</c><00:27:28.259><c> of</c><00:27:28.359><c> the</c><00:27:28.500><c> creation.</c>

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We<00:27:29.119><c> were</c><00:27:29.279><c> witnesses.</c>

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So<00:27:30.819><c> the</c><00:27:31.140><c> witnesses</c><00:27:31.460><c> say</c><00:27:31.740><c> that</c><00:27:31.920><c> God</c><00:27:32.079><c> made</c><00:27:32.319><c> it</c><00:27:32.559><c> instantly.</c>

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Does<00:27:35.019><c> it</c><00:27:35.180><c> change</c><00:27:35.440><c> our</c><00:27:35.700><c> doctrines?</c>

00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:38.519
Well,<00:27:37.180><c> they</c><00:27:37.460><c> do</c><00:27:37.740><c> change</c><00:27:38.019><c> our</c><00:27:38.220><c> doctrines.</c>

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They<00:27:38.759><c> change</c><00:27:39.059><c> crucial</c><00:27:39.460><c> doctrines</c>

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when<00:27:40.759><c> they</c><00:27:40.940><c> introduce</c><00:27:41.259><c> theistic</c><00:27:41.619><c> evolution.</c>

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Does<00:27:42.900><c> it</c><00:27:43.039><c> have</c><00:27:43.160><c> good</c><00:27:43.380><c> outcomes?</c>

00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:47.200
Well,<00:27:45.720><c> it</c><00:27:45.720><c> does</c><00:27:46.079><c> because</c><00:27:46.519><c> you</c><00:27:46.700><c> see</c><00:27:46.920><c> people</c>

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who<00:27:47.339><c> have</c><00:27:47.539><c> not</c><00:27:47.660><c> only</c><00:27:48.440><c> lost</c><00:27:49.140><c> their</c><00:27:49.420><c> fellowship,</c>

00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:52.039
you<00:27:50.059><c> see</c><00:27:50.259><c> people</c><00:27:50.539><c> who</c><00:27:50.660><c> have</c><00:27:50.779><c> lost</c><00:27:50.920><c> their</c><00:27:51.160><c> faith.</c>

00:27:52.619 --> 00:27:53.480
And<00:27:52.740><c> they</c><00:27:52.880><c> go</c><00:27:53.019><c> down</c><00:27:53.160><c> the</c><00:27:53.319><c> path.</c>

00:27:53.559 --> 00:27:55.279
And<00:27:53.559><c> that's</c><00:27:53.720><c> why</c><00:27:53.859><c> the</c><00:27:54.039><c> ex</c><00:27:54.240><c>-Christadelphians</c><00:27:54.839><c> believe</c>

00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:58.400
the<00:27:55.859><c> greatest</c><00:27:56.279><c> thing</c><00:27:57.000><c> they</c><00:27:57.240><c> have</c><00:27:57.420><c> for</c><00:27:57.700><c> deconversion</c>

00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:01.380
is<00:27:58.599><c> the</c><00:27:58.779><c> theistic</c><00:27:59.039><c> evolution</c><00:27:59.460><c> movement</c><00:27:59.799><c> inside</c><00:28:00.140><c> our</c><00:28:00.359><c> brotherhood.</c>

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Because<00:28:02.160><c> it</c><00:28:02.279><c> will</c><00:28:02.460><c> take</c><00:28:02.640><c> people</c><00:28:02.880><c> away</c><00:28:03.119><c> from</c><00:28:03.279><c> the</c><00:28:03.500><c> faith.</c>

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And<00:28:03.819><c> they</c><00:28:04.200><c> know</c><00:28:04.480><c> that</c><00:28:04.819><c> it's</c><00:28:05.059><c> going</c><00:28:05.180><c> to</c><00:28:05.319><c> work.</c>

00:28:07.740 --> 00:28:11.099
So<00:28:08.200><c> is</c><00:28:08.400><c> theistic</c><00:28:08.640><c> evolution</c><00:28:09.039><c> examined</c><00:28:09.500><c> in</c><00:28:09.680><c> the</c><00:28:09.819><c> terms</c><00:28:10.000><c> of</c><00:28:10.220><c> Corinthians?</c>

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It<00:28:11.380><c> doesn't</c><00:28:11.759><c> meet</c><00:28:11.980><c> any</c><00:28:12.279><c> of</c><00:28:12.400><c> the</c><00:28:12.539><c> challenges.</c>

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It's<00:28:13.900><c> not</c><00:28:14.099><c> according</c><00:28:14.380><c> to</c><00:28:14.539><c> the</c><00:28:14.700><c> Scripture.</c>

00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:17.220
There<00:28:15.059><c> were</c><00:28:15.240><c> no</c><00:28:15.420><c> eyewitnesses</c><00:28:16.059><c> to</c><00:28:16.099><c> see</c><00:28:16.259><c> it</c><00:28:16.359><c> happen</c><00:28:16.579><c> that</c><00:28:16.819><c> way.</c>

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It<00:28:17.779><c> affects</c><00:28:18.119><c> our</c><00:28:18.420><c> doctrines</c><00:28:18.759><c> and</c><00:28:18.859><c> it</c><00:28:19.039><c> has</c><00:28:19.259><c> a</c><00:28:19.519><c> bad</c><00:28:19.779><c> outcome.</c>

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And<00:28:21.799><c> therefore</c><00:28:22.140><c> it</c><00:28:22.299><c> is</c><00:28:22.539><c> a</c><00:28:22.740><c> bad</c><00:28:22.920><c> doctrine.</c>

00:28:23.539 --> 00:28:25.460
Just<00:28:23.640><c> like</c><00:28:23.880><c> believing</c><00:28:24.119><c> there</c><00:28:24.299><c> was</c><00:28:24.480><c> no</c><00:28:24.680><c> resurrection</c><00:28:25.099><c> is</c><00:28:25.400><c> a</c>

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bad<00:28:25.640><c> doctrine.</c>

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So<00:28:27.579><c> a</c><00:28:27.940><c> good</c><00:28:28.140><c> example</c><00:28:28.720><c> of</c><00:28:29.000><c> doing</c><00:28:29.220><c> that.</c>

00:28:29.460 --> 00:28:31.819
We'll<00:28:29.519><c> just</c><00:28:29.680><c> go</c><00:28:29.859><c> past</c><00:28:30.140><c> that.</c>

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Just<00:28:32.400><c> a</c><00:28:32.440><c> bit</c><00:28:32.579><c> of</c><00:28:32.720><c> cartoon</c><00:28:33.039><c> to</c><00:28:33.259><c> lighten</c><00:28:33.500><c> things</c><00:28:33.700><c> up.</c>

00:28:33.980 --> 00:28:38.200
The<00:28:34.099><c> TE</c><00:28:34.299><c> Bible</c><00:28:34.619><c> after</c><00:28:34.799><c> evolution</c><00:28:35.140><c> has</c><00:28:35.339><c> been</c><00:28:35.559><c> successfully</c><00:28:36.119><c> accommodated.</c>

00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:41.559
You<00:28:39.240><c> know,</c><00:28:39.700><c> nothing</c><00:28:39.799><c> fits</c><00:28:40.079><c> anymore</c><00:28:40.519><c> quite</c><00:28:40.839><c> like</c><00:28:41.039><c> it</c><00:28:41.220><c> should</c><00:28:41.359><c> be.</c>

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And<00:28:41.640><c> it's</c><00:28:41.920><c> on</c><00:28:42.220><c> uncertain</c><00:28:42.819><c> pillars.</c>

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Interesting<00:28:43.940><c> result.</c>

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It's<00:28:44.539><c> all</c><00:28:44.700><c> about</c><00:28:44.980><c> exegesis</c><00:28:45.559><c> and</c><00:28:45.779><c> good</c><00:28:46.000><c> hermeneutics.</c>

00:28:48.059 --> 00:28:50.740
And<00:28:48.279><c> I</c><00:28:48.460><c> had</c><00:28:48.559><c> to</c><00:28:48.680><c> look</c><00:28:48.799><c> the</c><00:28:48.880><c> word</c><00:28:49.000><c> hermeneutics</c><00:28:49.480><c> up</c><00:28:49.579><c> when</c><00:28:49.700><c> it</c><00:28:49.819><c> was</c><00:28:49.980><c> first</c><00:28:50.319><c> thrown</c><00:28:50.420><c> at</c><00:28:50.579><c> me.</c>

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But<00:28:51.039><c> it</c><00:28:51.759><c> means,</c><00:28:52.220><c> you</c><00:28:52.359><c> know,</c><00:28:52.440><c> working</c><00:28:52.700><c> out</c><00:28:52.960><c> how</c><00:28:53.180><c> to</c><00:28:53.440><c> explain</c>

00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:55.019
the<00:28:54.079><c> Bible.</c>

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Explain<00:28:55.859><c> the</c><00:28:56.079><c> things</c><00:28:56.200><c> you</c><00:28:56.400><c> believe</c><00:28:56.579><c> about</c><00:28:56.799><c> the</c><00:28:57.000><c> Bible.</c>

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Must<00:29:00.799><c> we</c><00:29:01.000><c> respect</c><00:29:01.339><c> the</c><00:29:01.599><c> qualifications?</c>

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Well,<00:29:03.140><c> you</c><00:29:03.259><c> all</c><00:29:03.359><c> know</c><00:29:03.519><c> the</c><00:29:04.559><c> story,</c><00:29:05.460><c> The</c><00:29:05.619><c> Emperor</c><00:29:05.759><c> with</c><00:29:05.920><c> No</c><00:29:06.119><c> Clothes?</c>

00:29:07.900 --> 00:29:09.220
Everyone<00:29:08.059><c> know</c><00:29:08.180><c> that</c><00:29:08.440><c> story?</c>

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Okay.

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What's<00:29:10.880><c> the</c><00:29:11.000><c> principle?</c>

00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:15.599
Well,<00:29:12.619><c> you</c><00:29:12.660><c> know,</c><00:29:14.000><c> nobody</c><00:29:14.119><c> is</c><00:29:14.319><c> willing</c><00:29:14.500><c> to</c><00:29:14.740><c> say</c><00:29:14.880><c> to</c><00:29:15.000><c> you,</c><00:29:15.339><c> you've</c><00:29:15.480><c> got</c>

00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:16.900
no<00:29:15.839><c> clothes</c><00:29:16.059><c> on.</c>

00:29:17.779 --> 00:29:20.400
And<00:29:18.000><c> everybody</c><00:29:18.380><c> marches</c><00:29:18.720><c> behind</c><00:29:18.900><c> the</c><00:29:19.079><c> Emperor</c><00:29:19.279><c> who's</c><00:29:19.539><c> got</c><00:29:19.740><c> no</c><00:29:20.160><c> clothes.</c>

00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:22.839
He's<00:29:20.640><c> believing</c><00:29:20.940><c> that</c><00:29:21.519><c> the</c><00:29:21.839><c> threat</c><00:29:21.980><c> is</c><00:29:22.180><c> invisible</c><00:29:22.460><c> to</c><00:29:22.619><c> those</c>

00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:26.359
who<00:29:22.980><c> are</c><00:29:23.099><c> not</c><00:29:23.259><c> worthy</c><00:29:23.480><c> of</c><00:29:23.599><c> their</c><00:29:23.799><c> office</c><00:29:24.119><c> and</c><00:29:24.700><c> who</c><00:29:25.099><c> don't</c><00:29:25.299><c> understand.</c>

00:29:26.539 --> 00:29:28.519
So<00:29:26.839><c> everybody</c><00:29:27.339><c> pretends</c><00:29:27.799><c> they</c><00:29:28.000><c> can</c><00:29:28.240><c> see</c><00:29:28.420><c> it.</c>

00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:29.559
And<00:29:28.619><c> that's</c><00:29:28.720><c> what</c><00:29:28.859><c> evolution</c><00:29:29.140><c> is</c><00:29:29.339><c> like.</c>

00:29:29.680 --> 00:29:31.779
Everybody<00:29:30.019><c> pretends</c><00:29:30.420><c> they</c><00:29:30.619><c> can</c><00:29:30.819><c> see</c><00:29:30.980><c> it.</c>

00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:33.680
Because<00:29:32.180><c> nobody</c><00:29:32.500><c> is</c><00:29:32.799><c> gained</c><00:29:32.940><c> because</c><00:29:33.140><c> they'll</c><00:29:33.380><c> lose</c><00:29:33.539><c> their</c>

00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:36.180
job<00:29:33.940><c> if</c><00:29:34.099><c> they</c><00:29:34.279><c> say</c><00:29:34.420><c> they</c><00:29:34.559><c> can't</c><00:29:34.819><c> see</c><00:29:35.059><c> it.</c>

00:29:36.940 --> 00:29:38.259
And<00:29:37.359><c> evolution</c><00:29:37.680><c> is</c><00:29:37.839><c> like</c><00:29:37.980><c> that.</c>

00:29:38.259 --> 00:29:41.380
It's<00:29:38.619><c> clearly</c><00:29:38.799><c> apparent</c><00:29:39.079><c> to</c><00:29:39.259><c> those</c><00:29:39.440><c> with</c><00:29:39.599><c> the</c><00:29:39.740><c> necessary</c><00:29:40.099><c> qualifications.</c>

00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:43.279
Okay.

00:29:43.740 --> 00:29:45.839
I<00:29:43.859><c> wanted</c><00:29:44.000><c> to</c><00:29:44.180><c> say</c><00:29:44.279><c> something</c><00:29:44.460><c> about</c><00:29:44.640><c> the</c><00:29:44.819><c> creation</c><00:29:45.140><c> science</c><00:29:45.559><c> movement</c>

00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:48.380
because<00:29:46.200><c> it's</c><00:29:46.480><c> very</c><00:29:46.740><c> tempting</c><00:29:47.039><c> when</c><00:29:47.240><c> you</c><00:29:47.400><c> get</c><00:29:47.720><c> dealing</c><00:29:48.140><c> with</c>

00:29:48.380 --> 00:29:50.680
evolution<00:29:48.700><c> of</c><00:29:48.900><c> any</c><00:29:49.140><c> form</c><00:29:49.359><c> to</c><00:29:49.539><c> go</c><00:29:49.720><c> to</c><00:29:49.940><c> creation</c><00:29:50.240><c> science</c>

00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:52.660
and<00:29:50.859><c> say,</c><00:29:51.180><c> look,</c><00:29:51.539><c> you</c><00:29:51.720><c> guys</c><00:29:52.019><c> are</c><00:29:52.240><c> scientists.</c>

00:29:52.660 --> 00:29:53.460
You've<00:29:52.819><c> been</c><00:29:53.039><c> working</c><00:29:53.240><c> on</c><00:29:53.380><c> this.</c>

00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:55.220
You've<00:29:53.680><c> got</c><00:29:53.759><c> the</c><00:29:53.980><c> scientific</c><00:29:54.259><c> answers.</c>

00:29:55.380 --> 00:29:58.680
Just<00:29:55.640><c> be</c><00:29:55.900><c> aware</c><00:29:56.200><c> that</c><00:29:56.420><c> they</c><00:29:56.740><c> have</c><00:29:56.960><c> too</c><00:29:57.079><c> many</c><00:29:57.279><c> scientists</c><00:29:57.619><c> on</c><00:29:57.880><c> board.</c>

00:29:59.099 --> 00:30:02.259
They<00:29:59.359><c> are</c><00:29:59.579><c> very</c><00:29:59.839><c> young</c><00:30:00.119><c> universe</c><00:30:00.579><c> and</c><00:30:00.819><c> young</c><00:30:00.960><c> earth</c><00:30:01.140><c> focused.</c>

00:30:02.339 --> 00:30:04.700
So<00:30:02.779><c> you're</c><00:30:03.140><c> going</c><00:30:03.160><c> to</c><00:30:03.339><c> be</c><00:30:03.359><c> taken</c><00:30:03.500><c> down</c><00:30:03.819><c> a</c><00:30:04.079><c> path</c><00:30:04.299><c> where</c><00:30:04.480><c> they</c>

00:30:04.700 --> 00:30:06.779
only<00:30:05.059><c> give</c><00:30:05.240><c> you</c><00:30:05.380><c> the</c><00:30:05.559><c> information</c><00:30:05.940><c> that</c><00:30:06.160><c> supports</c><00:30:06.400><c> the</c><00:30:06.660><c> young</c>

00:30:06.779 --> 00:30:07.819
earth<00:30:07.019><c> view.</c>

00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:11.059
And<00:30:08.440><c> everything</c><00:30:08.839><c> is</c><00:30:09.240><c> explained</c><00:30:09.420><c> in</c><00:30:09.559><c> a</c><00:30:09.720><c> 6</c><00:30:09.920><c>,000</c><00:30:10.240><c> year</c><00:30:10.519><c> time</c><00:30:10.799><c> span.</c>

00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:13.400
And<00:30:11.200><c> the</c><00:30:11.279><c> work</c><00:30:11.480><c> of</c><00:30:11.680><c> Professor</c><00:30:12.279><c> Henry</c><00:30:12.599><c> Morris</c><00:30:12.880><c> and</c><00:30:12.980><c> those</c><00:30:13.180><c> that</c>

00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:15.619
have<00:30:13.500><c> followed</c><00:30:13.599><c> him</c><00:30:13.799><c> are</c><00:30:14.079><c> very</c><00:30:14.279><c> much</c><00:30:14.440><c> in</c><00:30:14.539><c> this</c><00:30:14.759><c> line.</c>

00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:19.680
Unfortunately<00:30:16.599><c> they</c><00:30:16.799><c> have</c><00:30:17.059><c> at</c><00:30:17.279><c> times</c><00:30:17.720><c> used</c><00:30:18.480><c> dubious</c><00:30:18.940><c> research</c><00:30:19.440><c> which</c>

00:30:19.680 --> 00:30:20.920
has<00:30:19.920><c> been</c><00:30:20.180><c> debunked.</c>

00:30:21.579 --> 00:30:25.059
And<00:30:22.059><c> you've</c><00:30:22.240><c> got</c><00:30:22.299><c> to</c><00:30:22.420><c> be</c><00:30:22.640><c> careful</c><00:30:22.880><c> about</c><00:30:23.319><c> using</c><00:30:23.599><c> your</c><00:30:24.000><c> scientists</c><00:30:24.380><c> as</c><00:30:24.720><c> authorities</c>

00:30:25.059 --> 00:30:27.720
whether<00:30:25.480><c> they're</c><00:30:25.680><c> on</c><00:30:25.819><c> your</c><00:30:26.140><c> side</c><00:30:26.359><c> or</c><00:30:26.440><c> on</c><00:30:26.579><c> the</c><00:30:26.720><c> other</c><00:30:26.900><c> side.</c>

00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:30.660
Because<00:30:28.660><c> scientists</c><00:30:28.940><c> keep</c><00:30:29.140><c> changing</c><00:30:29.500><c> their</c><00:30:29.720><c> mind.</c>

00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:32.519
Scientists<00:30:30.900><c> keep</c><00:30:31.140><c> discovering</c><00:30:31.579><c> that</c><00:30:31.759><c> what</c><00:30:31.859><c> they</c><00:30:32.119><c> said</c><00:30:32.240><c> one</c>

00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:34.660
year<00:30:32.700><c> is</c><00:30:32.839><c> not</c><00:30:33.039><c> what</c><00:30:33.160><c> they</c><00:30:33.480><c> say</c><00:30:33.660><c> now.</c>

00:30:35.299 --> 00:30:38.819
So<00:30:35.700><c> just</c><00:30:36.099><c> be</c><00:30:36.420><c> cautious</c><00:30:36.759><c> with</c><00:30:36.940><c> the</c><00:30:37.079><c> creation</c><00:30:37.460><c> science</c><00:30:37.859><c> material</c><00:30:38.299><c> because</c>

00:30:38.819 --> 00:30:40.420
some<00:30:39.519><c> of</c><00:30:39.660><c> it</c><00:30:39.759><c> has</c><00:30:39.940><c> been</c><00:30:40.160><c> debunked.</c>

00:30:40.420 --> 00:30:42.319
Some<00:30:40.579><c> of</c><00:30:40.680><c> it</c><00:30:40.759><c> has</c><00:30:40.839><c> been</c><00:30:40.980><c> shown</c><00:30:41.119><c> to</c><00:30:41.259><c> be</c><00:30:41.400><c> even</c><00:30:41.460><c> be</c><00:30:41.640><c> dishonest.</c>

00:30:42.740 --> 00:30:44.839
And<00:30:42.940><c> we've</c><00:30:43.160><c> got</c><00:30:43.200><c> to</c><00:30:43.299><c> be</c><00:30:43.500><c> careful</c><00:30:43.660><c> about</c><00:30:43.960><c> using</c><00:30:44.259><c> it.</c>

00:30:45.099 --> 00:30:47.400
So<00:30:45.259><c> use</c><00:30:45.579><c> the</c><00:30:45.839><c> Bible</c><00:30:46.079><c> as</c><00:30:46.279><c> your</c><00:30:46.460><c> chief</c><00:30:46.619><c> weapon,</c><00:30:46.940><c> not</c><00:30:47.140><c> the</c>

00:30:47.400 --> 00:30:48.759
scientific<00:30:47.700><c> community.</c>

00:30:51.700 --> 00:30:53.660
Beware<00:30:52.059><c> of</c><00:30:52.259><c> wrong</c><00:30:52.380><c> ideas.</c>

00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:56.380
Shun<00:30:54.240><c> profane</c><00:30:54.700><c> and</c><00:30:54.880><c> vain</c><00:30:55.119><c> babblings</c><00:30:55.519><c> for</c><00:30:55.680><c> they</c><00:30:55.779><c> will</c><00:30:55.960><c> increase</c><00:30:56.200><c> unto</c>

00:30:56.380 --> 00:30:57.660
more<00:30:56.619><c> ungodliness.</c>

00:30:57.940 --> 00:31:00.119
Their<00:30:58.039><c> word</c><00:30:58.200><c> will</c><00:30:58.400><c> eat</c><00:30:58.519><c> us</c><00:30:58.660><c> doth</c><00:30:58.759><c> the</c><00:30:59.000><c> canker,</c><00:30:59.599><c> of</c><00:30:59.839><c> whom</c><00:30:59.940><c> is</c>

00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:01.599
Hymenus,<00:31:00.539><c> Nelix</c><00:31:00.900><c> and</c><00:31:01.079><c> Philetus.</c>

00:31:01.599 --> 00:31:04.440
They<00:31:01.740><c> were</c><00:31:01.839><c> people</c><00:31:02.099><c> that</c><00:31:02.319><c> had</c><00:31:02.859><c> gone</c><00:31:03.140><c> down</c><00:31:03.359><c> the</c><00:31:03.480><c> path</c><00:31:03.720><c> of</c><00:31:03.920><c> wrong</c><00:31:04.079><c> doctrine.</c>

00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:09.019
And<00:31:04.759><c> the</c><00:31:04.880><c> danger</c><00:31:05.180><c> was</c><00:31:06.420><c> their</c><00:31:07.259><c> word</c><00:31:07.380><c> will</c><00:31:07.599><c> eat</c><00:31:07.740><c> as</c><00:31:08.099><c> a</c><00:31:08.480><c> canker</c><00:31:08.740><c> or</c>

00:31:09.019 --> 00:31:10.220
a<00:31:09.200><c> gangrene.</c>

00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:13.460
And<00:31:10.619><c> we</c><00:31:10.799><c> pointed</c><00:31:10.940><c> this</c><00:31:11.180><c> out</c><00:31:11.380><c> that</c><00:31:11.519><c> you</c><00:31:12.599><c> get</c><00:31:12.819><c> this</c><00:31:13.099><c> infection</c>

00:31:13.460 --> 00:31:16.299
in<00:31:13.640><c> the</c><00:31:13.779><c> body</c><00:31:13.980><c> and</c><00:31:14.099><c> if</c><00:31:14.220><c> you</c><00:31:14.460><c> don't</c><00:31:14.940><c> have</c><00:31:15.319><c> surgery</c><00:31:15.740><c> on</c><00:31:15.900><c> it,</c><00:31:16.059><c> it</c>

00:31:16.299 --> 00:31:17.559
will<00:31:16.640><c> spread.</c>

00:31:18.059 --> 00:31:19.819
And<00:31:18.319><c> that's</c><00:31:18.579><c> just</c><00:31:18.839><c> the</c><00:31:19.000><c> word</c><00:31:19.319><c> canker</c><00:31:19.660><c> there.</c>

00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:24.500
The<00:31:19.940><c> word</c><00:31:20.160><c> gangrene</c><00:31:20.720><c> is</c><00:31:21.359><c> a</c><00:31:21.640><c> life</c><00:31:21.880><c>-threatening</c><00:31:22.180><c> condition</c><00:31:22.759><c> that</c><00:31:23.539><c> arises</c><00:31:23.940><c> when</c><00:31:24.220><c> a</c>

00:31:24.500 --> 00:31:29.380
considerable<00:31:25.240><c> mass</c><00:31:25.660><c> of</c><00:31:25.880><c> body</c><00:31:26.119><c> tissue</c><00:31:26.779><c> dies</c><00:31:27.460><c> called</c><00:31:28.660><c> necrosis.</c>

00:31:29.380 --> 00:31:31.920
This<00:31:29.539><c> may</c><00:31:29.779><c> occur</c><00:31:30.059><c> after</c><00:31:30.279><c> injury</c><00:31:30.539><c> or</c><00:31:30.740><c> an</c><00:31:31.000><c> infection.</c>

00:31:32.500 --> 00:31:36.599
And<00:31:32.900><c> the</c><00:31:33.299><c> only</c><00:31:33.559><c> way</c><00:31:33.720><c> to</c><00:31:33.880><c> stop</c><00:31:34.039><c> it</c><00:31:34.279><c> spreading</c><00:31:34.460><c> is</c><00:31:34.740><c> to</c><00:31:35.220><c> take</c><00:31:35.480><c> surgery</c><00:31:35.940><c> and</c>

00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:38.700
make<00:31:36.799><c> sure</c><00:31:36.960><c> that</c><00:31:37.099><c> is</c><00:31:37.240><c> no</c><00:31:37.440><c> longer</c><00:31:37.599><c> in</c><00:31:37.819><c> the</c><00:31:37.960><c> body.</c>

00:31:39.339 --> 00:31:41.980
And<00:31:39.740><c> that's,</c><00:31:40.339><c> and</c><00:31:40.480><c> I'm</c><00:31:40.559><c> just</c><00:31:40.680><c> putting</c><00:31:40.779><c> that</c><00:31:40.980><c> up,</c><00:31:41.119><c> I'm</c><00:31:41.299><c> not</c><00:31:41.539><c> saying</c><00:31:41.720><c> that</c><00:31:41.859><c> you</c>

00:31:41.980 --> 00:31:42.740
have<00:31:42.119><c> to</c><00:31:42.279><c> take</c><00:31:42.440><c> action.</c>

00:31:42.779 --> 00:31:44.400
We've<00:31:43.140><c> got</c><00:31:43.240><c> to</c><00:31:43.359><c> deal</c><00:31:43.480><c> with</c><00:31:43.579><c> it</c><00:31:43.700><c> as</c><00:31:43.819><c> we</c><00:31:43.980><c> see</c><00:31:44.200><c> fit.</c>

00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:48.519
But<00:31:44.940><c> that's</c><00:31:45.339><c> how</c><00:31:45.599><c> Paul</c><00:31:45.779><c> saw</c><00:31:45.980><c> the</c><00:31:46.259><c> issue</c><00:31:46.480><c> of</c><00:31:46.680><c> a</c><00:31:46.819><c> doctrinal</c><00:31:47.200><c> error</c><00:31:47.500><c> and</c>

00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:53.539
the<00:31:49.240><c> vain</c><00:31:49.440><c> babblings</c><00:31:50.039><c> of</c><00:31:51.039><c> Hymenus</c><00:31:51.839><c> and</c><00:31:52.140><c> Philetus.</c>

00:31:53.859 --> 00:31:56.079
And<00:31:54.259><c> he</c><00:31:54.640><c> was</c><00:31:54.839><c> pretty</c><00:31:55.140><c> straightforward</c><00:31:55.500><c> on</c><00:31:55.619><c> what</c><00:31:55.779><c> should</c><00:31:55.920><c> be</c>

00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:57.859
done<00:31:56.200><c> about</c><00:31:56.480><c> it.</c>

00:31:58.220 --> 00:31:59.400
Beware<00:31:58.700><c> of</c><00:31:58.779><c> human</c><00:31:59.039><c> wisdom.</c>

00:31:59.500 --> 00:32:01.759
See<00:31:59.640><c> to</c><00:31:59.779><c> it</c><00:31:59.880><c> that</c><00:31:59.980><c> no</c><00:32:00.200><c> one</c><00:32:00.319><c> takes</c><00:32:00.539><c> you</c><00:32:00.759><c> captive</c><00:32:01.039><c> by</c><00:32:01.279><c> philosophy</c>

00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:03.839
and<00:32:01.940><c> empty</c><00:32:02.140><c> deceit</c><00:32:02.660><c> according</c><00:32:02.940><c> to</c><00:32:03.220><c> human</c><00:32:03.420><c> tradition.</c>

00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:06.339
And<00:32:03.940><c> that's,</c><00:32:04.880><c> of</c><00:32:05.019><c> course,</c><00:32:05.220><c> referring</c><00:32:05.539><c> to</c><00:32:05.700><c> the</c><00:32:05.819><c> Lord</c><00:32:05.920><c> of</c><00:32:06.099><c> Moses</c>

00:32:06.339 --> 00:32:07.119
in<00:32:06.500><c> that</c><00:32:06.700><c> context.</c>

00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:08.420
But<00:32:07.380><c> it's</c><00:32:07.640><c> the</c><00:32:07.779><c> same</c><00:32:07.940><c> thing</c><00:32:08.079><c> today.</c>

00:32:08.819 --> 00:32:10.079
We<00:32:08.880><c> don't</c><00:32:09.019><c> have</c><00:32:09.200><c> to</c><00:32:09.319><c> battle</c><00:32:09.440><c> the</c><00:32:09.599><c> Lord</c><00:32:09.700><c> of</c><00:32:09.839><c> Moses.</c>

00:32:10.140 --> 00:32:13.000
We<00:32:10.259><c> have</c><00:32:10.420><c> to</c><00:32:10.599><c> battle</c><00:32:11.079><c> the</c><00:32:11.559><c> oppositions</c><00:32:12.079><c> of</c><00:32:12.380><c> science</c><00:32:12.660><c> that</c><00:32:12.900><c> are</c>

00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:14.059
out<00:32:13.180><c> there.</c>

00:32:14.619 --> 00:32:19.559
Beware<00:32:15.099><c> that</c><00:32:15.359><c> human</c><00:32:15.660><c> philosophy</c><00:32:16.119><c> takes</c><00:32:16.440><c> over</c><00:32:16.819><c> from</c><00:32:17.599><c> Bible</c><00:32:18.160><c> understanding.</c>

00:32:21.099 --> 00:32:22.279
Just<00:32:21.519><c> another</c><00:32:21.779><c> cartoon.</c>

00:32:22.460 --> 00:32:24.960
God's<00:32:22.900><c> perfect</c><00:32:23.140><c> word,</c><00:32:23.859><c> man's</c><00:32:24.259><c> fathomable</c><00:32:24.579><c> opinion.</c>

00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:28.200
When<00:32:25.619><c> you're</c><00:32:25.940><c> trying</c><00:32:26.079><c> to</c><00:32:26.180><c> make</c><00:32:26.279><c> them</c><00:32:26.460><c> agree,</c><00:32:27.220><c> guess</c><00:32:27.380><c> which</c><00:32:27.619><c> one</c><00:32:27.799><c> has</c><00:32:28.039><c> to</c>

00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:28.819
be<00:32:28.339><c> modified.</c>

00:32:29.180 --> 00:32:32.859
It<00:32:29.180><c> very</c><00:32:29.420><c> clearly</c><00:32:29.700><c> has</c><00:32:29.940><c> to</c><00:32:30.140><c> be</c><00:32:30.720><c> the</c><00:32:30.880><c> Word</c><00:32:31.059><c> of</c><00:32:31.180><c> God.</c>

00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:36.880
What<00:32:35.400><c> should</c><00:32:35.680><c> Ecclesiastes</c><00:32:36.099><c> do?</c>

00:32:37.500 --> 00:32:39.819
Well,<00:32:37.819><c> I</c><00:32:37.920><c> think</c><00:32:38.180><c> the</c><00:32:38.480><c> main</c><00:32:38.640><c> thing</c><00:32:38.740><c> at</c><00:32:38.900><c> the</c><00:32:39.000><c> moment</c><00:32:39.279><c> is</c><00:32:39.500><c> we</c><00:32:39.599><c> need</c>

00:32:39.819 --> 00:32:41.339
to<00:32:39.940><c> do</c><00:32:40.039><c> some</c><00:32:40.200><c> education.</c>

00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:44.380
A<00:32:42.839><c> lot</c><00:32:43.019><c> of</c><00:32:43.079><c> people</c><00:32:43.200><c> have</c><00:32:43.380><c> said</c><00:32:43.480><c> to</c><00:32:43.619><c> me</c><00:32:43.839><c> that</c><00:32:43.960><c> they</c><00:32:44.160><c> haven't</c>

00:32:44.380 --> 00:32:45.339
seen<00:32:44.700><c> this,</c>

00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:47.200
a<00:32:45.480><c> great</c><00:32:45.640><c> evidence</c><00:32:45.960><c> of</c><00:32:46.079><c> this</c><00:32:46.259><c> happening</c><00:32:46.579><c> in</c><00:32:46.779><c> their</c><00:32:46.880><c> midst.</c>

00:32:47.279 --> 00:32:49.440
And<00:32:47.440><c> you're</c><00:32:47.640><c> probably</c><00:32:48.000><c> right,</c><00:32:48.299><c> you</c><00:32:48.460><c> haven't</c><00:32:48.619><c> seen</c><00:32:48.859><c> it.</c>

00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:51.640
It<00:32:49.880><c> doesn't</c><00:32:50.099><c> mean</c><00:32:50.240><c> it's</c><00:32:50.440><c> not</c><00:32:50.619><c> happening</c><00:32:50.819><c> behind</c><00:32:51.220><c> the</c><00:32:51.440><c> scenes.</c>

00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:56.900
And<00:32:51.740><c> we</c><00:32:51.859><c> have</c><00:32:52.039><c> been</c><00:32:52.839><c> very,</c><00:32:53.279><c> very</c><00:32:54.859><c> bitterly</c><00:32:55.400><c> surprised</c><00:32:56.059><c> in</c><00:32:56.619><c> Adelaide</c>

00:32:56.900 --> 00:32:59.900
to<00:32:57.119><c> find</c><00:32:57.259><c> how</c><00:32:57.440><c> many</c><00:32:57.640><c> people</c><00:32:57.900><c> in</c><00:32:58.019><c> our</c><00:32:58.220><c> own</c><00:32:58.400><c> city</c><00:32:58.619><c> have</c><00:32:58.819><c> been</c><00:32:59.079><c> dabbling</c><00:32:59.339><c> in</c><00:32:59.519><c> this</c>

00:32:59.900 --> 00:33:04.480
and<00:33:00.680><c> how</c><00:33:00.940><c> many</c><00:33:01.119><c> have</c><00:33:01.279><c> actually</c><00:33:01.539><c> now</c><00:33:01.759><c> become</c><00:33:02.740><c> active</c><00:33:03.279><c> promoters</c><00:33:03.720><c> of</c><00:33:03.880><c> it.</c>

00:33:04.900 --> 00:33:06.960
And<00:33:05.200><c> as</c><00:33:05.359><c> I</c><00:33:05.500><c> said,</c><00:33:05.720><c> one</c><00:33:05.740><c> of</c><00:33:05.920><c> our</c><00:33:06.220><c> arranging</c><00:33:06.640><c> brethren</c>

00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:08.799
and<00:33:07.099><c> one</c><00:33:07.240><c> of</c><00:33:07.319><c> our</c><00:33:07.480><c> most</c><00:33:07.680><c> conservative</c><00:33:08.140><c> ecclesiastes</c>

00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:11.960
is<00:33:09.039><c> now</c><00:33:09.920><c> out</c><00:33:10.259><c> of</c><00:33:10.380><c> fellowship</c><00:33:10.700><c> and</c><00:33:10.980><c> an</c><00:33:11.140><c> active</c><00:33:11.359><c> promoter</c><00:33:11.759><c> of</c>

00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:13.160
theistic<00:33:12.180><c> evolution.</c>

00:33:13.259 --> 00:33:15.160
So<00:33:13.420><c> it's</c><00:33:13.539><c> right</c><00:33:13.700><c> on</c><00:33:13.839><c> our</c><00:33:13.980><c> doorstep.</c>

00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:16.980
And<00:33:15.319><c> we</c><00:33:16.019><c> don't</c><00:33:16.220><c> know</c><00:33:16.380><c> all</c><00:33:16.539><c> the</c><00:33:16.700><c> names,</c>

00:33:16.980 --> 00:33:20.359
but<00:33:17.240><c> they</c><00:33:17.839><c> keep</c><00:33:18.019><c> telling</c><00:33:18.240><c> us</c><00:33:18.460><c> that</c><00:33:18.559><c> there</c><00:33:18.660><c> are</c><00:33:18.680><c> a</c><00:33:18.759><c> lot</c><00:33:18.880><c> more</c><00:33:19.119><c> people</c><00:33:20.000><c> in</c>

00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:20.920
our<00:33:20.579><c> midst</c>

00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:23.019
that<00:33:21.259><c> we</c><00:33:21.779><c> don't</c><00:33:22.019><c> know</c><00:33:22.259><c> about.</c>

00:33:23.140 --> 00:33:25.099
And<00:33:23.200><c> they</c><00:33:23.380><c> keep</c><00:33:23.880><c> throwing</c><00:33:24.180><c> this</c><00:33:24.420><c> at</c><00:33:24.519><c> us</c><00:33:24.640><c> that</c><00:33:24.759><c> one</c><00:33:24.960><c> day</c>

00:33:25.099 --> 00:33:27.319
you're<00:33:25.299><c> going</c><00:33:25.420><c> to</c><00:33:25.680><c> realise</c><00:33:25.940><c> how</c><00:33:26.140><c> many</c><00:33:26.319><c> people</c><00:33:26.579><c> we</c><00:33:26.799><c> have</c><00:33:26.980><c> converted.</c>

00:33:27.740 --> 00:33:30.079
Now,<00:33:27.900><c> they</c><00:33:27.980><c> might</c><00:33:28.180><c> just</c><00:33:28.380><c> be</c><00:33:28.539><c> boasting</c><00:33:28.859><c> about</c><00:33:29.180><c> that,</c>

00:33:30.259 --> 00:33:32.359
but<00:33:30.660><c> they</c><00:33:30.960><c> keep</c><00:33:31.099><c> telling</c><00:33:31.299><c> us</c><00:33:31.500><c> that</c><00:33:31.660><c> the</c><00:33:31.819><c> people</c><00:33:31.980><c> are</c><00:33:32.220><c> there,</c>

00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:33.720
that<00:33:32.480><c> they</c><00:33:32.680><c> are</c><00:33:32.779><c> getting</c><00:33:32.980><c> to.</c>

00:33:34.059 --> 00:33:36.519
So<00:33:34.519><c> we've</c><00:33:34.980><c> got</c><00:33:35.019><c> to</c><00:33:35.119><c> make</c><00:33:35.220><c> sure</c><00:33:35.380><c> we</c><00:33:35.619><c> educate</c><00:33:35.960><c> our</c><00:33:36.180><c> ecclesiastes</c>

00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:39.200
on<00:33:36.799><c> simple</c><00:33:37.859><c> Bible</c><00:33:38.220><c> teachings.</c>

00:33:39.900 --> 00:33:42.079
Most<00:33:40.160><c> of</c><00:33:40.339><c> the</c><00:33:40.500><c> TE</c><00:33:40.660><c> proponents</c><00:33:41.119><c> are</c><00:33:41.400><c> in</c><00:33:41.579><c> places</c><00:33:41.819><c> where</c><00:33:41.980><c> they're</c>

00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:42.819
hard<00:33:42.380><c> to</c><00:33:42.519><c> get</c><00:33:42.680><c> to,</c>

00:33:42.819 --> 00:33:45.779
to<00:33:42.980><c> be</c><00:33:43.220><c> disciplined</c><00:33:43.480><c> by</c><00:33:44.519><c> ecclesiastes.</c>

00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:48.680
And<00:33:46.339><c> particularly</c><00:33:46.859><c> in</c><00:33:47.019><c> Australia,</c><00:33:47.400><c> that's</c><00:33:47.680><c> the</c><00:33:47.859><c> case.</c>

00:33:48.859 --> 00:33:51.440
We<00:33:49.299><c> must</c><00:33:49.539><c> always</c><00:33:49.799><c> remember</c><00:33:50.099><c> to</c><00:33:50.220><c> do</c><00:33:50.319><c> it</c><00:33:50.400><c> in</c><00:33:50.559><c> a</c><00:33:50.660><c> Christ</c><00:33:50.920><c>-like</c><00:33:51.079><c> way.</c>

00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:53.319
You<00:33:51.680><c> know,</c><00:33:51.700><c> one</c><00:33:51.819><c> thing</c><00:33:52.019><c> about</c><00:33:52.279><c> controversy</c>

00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:56.240
is<00:33:54.119><c> that</c><00:33:54.319><c> it</c><00:33:54.420><c> sometimes</c><00:33:54.839><c> brings</c><00:33:55.079><c> out</c><00:33:55.259><c> the</c><00:33:55.460><c> worst</c><00:33:55.660><c> in</c><00:33:55.839><c> people.</c>

00:33:56.619 --> 00:34:00.619
You<00:33:56.680><c> know,</c><00:33:56.740><c> we</c><00:33:56.900><c> try</c><00:33:57.160><c> and</c><00:33:57.900><c> win</c><00:33:58.099><c> the</c><00:33:58.339><c> point</c><00:33:58.619><c> and</c><00:33:59.299><c> not</c><00:33:59.640><c> at</c><00:33:59.880><c> the</c><00:34:00.019><c> same</c><00:34:00.240><c> time</c><00:34:00.440><c> win</c>

00:34:00.619 --> 00:34:01.500
the<00:34:00.799><c> brother.</c>

00:34:01.819 --> 00:34:04.000
And<00:34:02.079><c> we've</c><00:34:02.319><c> got</c><00:34:02.380><c> to</c><00:34:02.480><c> make</c><00:34:02.640><c> sure</c><00:34:02.880><c> when</c><00:34:03.019><c> we</c><00:34:03.259><c> go</c><00:34:03.380><c> into</c><00:34:03.559><c> controversy</c>

00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:05.680
we<00:34:04.180><c> go</c><00:34:04.400><c> in</c><00:34:04.480><c> it</c><00:34:04.559><c> with</c><00:34:04.740><c> a</c><00:34:04.859><c> Christ</c><00:34:05.039><c>-like</c><00:34:05.200><c> attitude,</c>

00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:08.599
with<00:34:06.279><c> the</c><00:34:06.500><c> intent</c><00:34:06.720><c> of</c><00:34:06.900><c> winning</c><00:34:07.059><c> people</c><00:34:07.420><c> back</c>

00:34:08.780 --> 00:34:11.880
and<00:34:09.219><c> not</c><00:34:09.500><c> with</c><00:34:09.739><c> actually</c><00:34:10.000><c> just</c><00:34:10.500><c> winning</c><00:34:10.659><c> the</c><00:34:10.940><c> argument.</c>

00:34:12.159 --> 00:34:13.360
Keep<00:34:12.360><c> out</c><00:34:12.559><c> the</c><00:34:12.800><c> personal</c><00:34:13.139><c> insults.</c>

00:34:13.739 --> 00:34:15.820
You<00:34:13.900><c> do</c><00:34:14.199><c> not</c><00:34:14.400><c> need</c><00:34:14.619><c> to</c><00:34:14.840><c> insult</c><00:34:15.119><c> people</c><00:34:15.420><c> personally</c>

00:34:15.820 --> 00:34:19.420
and<00:34:16.019><c> call</c><00:34:16.179><c> them,</c><00:34:16.719><c> you</c><00:34:16.840><c> know,</c><00:34:17.219><c> low</c><00:34:17.300><c>-brained,</c><00:34:18.400><c> dumb,</c><00:34:19.059><c> deal</c><00:34:19.219><c>-witted.</c>

00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:21.519
And<00:34:19.719><c> some</c><00:34:19.820><c> of</c><00:34:19.960><c> the</c><00:34:20.099><c> things,</c><00:34:20.440><c> some</c><00:34:20.579><c> of</c><00:34:20.739><c> the</c><00:34:20.860><c> terms</c><00:34:21.019><c> I've</c><00:34:21.340><c> seen,</c>

00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:23.940
you<00:34:21.820><c> just</c><00:34:21.960><c> wouldn't</c><00:34:22.099><c> believe</c><00:34:22.400><c> what</c><00:34:22.539><c> people</c><00:34:22.760><c> have</c><00:34:22.920><c> been</c><00:34:23.139><c> called.</c>

00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:25.880
And<00:34:24.280><c> the</c><00:34:24.579><c> personal</c><00:34:24.840><c> berating</c><00:34:25.179><c> that's</c><00:34:25.420><c> taken</c><00:34:25.619><c> place</c>

00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:28.159
from<00:34:26.179><c> both</c><00:34:26.440><c> sides</c><00:34:26.679><c> of</c><00:34:26.840><c> the</c><00:34:27.000><c> question</c><00:34:27.239><c> is</c><00:34:27.480><c> disgraceful.</c>

00:34:28.659 --> 00:34:31.139
And<00:34:28.920><c> we</c><00:34:29.019><c> have</c><00:34:29.119><c> to</c><00:34:29.320><c> conduct</c><00:34:29.519><c> ourselves</c><00:34:29.860><c> always</c><00:34:30.219><c> in</c><00:34:30.420><c> a</c><00:34:30.519><c> brotherly</c><00:34:30.840><c> way</c><00:34:31.019><c> and</c>

00:34:31.139 --> 00:34:32.000
a<00:34:31.219><c> brotherly</c><00:34:31.659><c> spirit,</c>

00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:35.320
but<00:34:32.539><c> it</c><00:34:32.699><c> doesn't</c><00:34:32.880><c> mean</c><00:34:33.300><c> that</c><00:34:33.780><c> we</c><00:34:33.940><c> give</c><00:34:34.039><c> up</c><00:34:34.199><c> on</c><00:34:34.340><c> the</c><00:34:34.559><c> issues.</c>

00:34:35.940 --> 00:34:39.639
They<00:34:36.239><c> will</c><00:34:36.380><c> be</c><00:34:36.500><c> very</c><00:34:36.760><c> aggressive</c><00:34:37.320><c> and</c><00:34:37.960><c> they</c><00:34:38.099><c> will</c><00:34:38.280><c> reach</c><00:34:38.480><c> many</c><00:34:38.679><c> members.</c>

00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:42.679
We're<00:34:41.340><c> adopting</c><00:34:41.579><c> an</c><00:34:41.760><c> attitude</c><00:34:42.039><c> in</c><00:34:42.260><c> our</c><00:34:42.420><c> city</c>

00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:46.059
where<00:34:43.019><c> people</c><00:34:43.440><c> who</c><00:34:43.659><c> actually</c><00:34:43.980><c> promote</c><00:34:44.300><c> this</c><00:34:44.519><c> will</c><00:34:44.699><c> not</c><00:34:44.860><c> be</c><00:34:45.099><c> received</c>

00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:48.980
and<00:34:46.599><c> people</c><00:34:46.880><c> who</c><00:34:47.159><c> have</c><00:34:47.360><c> been</c><00:34:47.739><c> known</c><00:34:47.920><c> to</c><00:34:48.260><c> promote</c><00:34:48.500><c> these</c><00:34:48.780><c> views</c>

00:34:48.980 --> 00:34:51.599
will<00:34:49.159><c> have</c><00:34:49.320><c> to</c><00:34:49.500><c> make</c><00:34:49.619><c> it</c><00:34:49.840><c> clear</c><00:34:49.920><c> to</c><00:34:50.099><c> us</c><00:34:50.239><c> that</c><00:34:50.420><c> they</c><00:34:51.039><c> now</c><00:34:51.320><c> accept</c>

00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:53.440
the<00:34:51.820><c> BASF</c>

00:34:53.820 --> 00:34:56.579
before<00:34:54.300><c> they'll</c><00:34:54.539><c> be</c><00:34:54.760><c> accepted</c><00:34:55.099><c> into</c><00:34:55.440><c> our</c><00:34:55.659><c> fellowship.</c>

00:34:56.860 --> 00:34:59.739
And<00:34:56.960><c> almost</c><00:34:57.179><c> every</c><00:34:57.460><c> Ecclesia</c><00:34:57.719><c> in</c><00:34:57.920><c> Adelaide</c><00:34:58.179><c> is</c><00:34:58.519><c> rewriting</c><00:34:58.960><c> or</c><00:34:59.260><c> upgrading</c>

00:34:59.739 --> 00:35:01.940
or<00:35:00.320><c> adding</c><00:35:00.599><c> to</c><00:35:00.760><c> their</c><00:35:00.960><c> doctrines</c><00:35:01.199><c> to</c><00:35:01.340><c> be</c><00:35:01.500><c> rejected</c>

00:35:01.940 --> 00:35:04.800
a<00:35:02.519><c> clear</c><00:35:02.719><c> statement</c><00:35:03.079><c> about</c><00:35:03.500><c> theistic</c><00:35:03.820><c> evolution.</c>

00:35:05.260 --> 00:35:08.019
And<00:35:05.699><c> that's</c><00:35:06.159><c> what</c><00:35:06.320><c> we're</c><00:35:06.539><c> doing</c><00:35:06.739><c> to</c><00:35:06.940><c> make</c><00:35:07.079><c> sure</c><00:35:07.219><c> that</c><00:35:07.400><c> people</c><00:35:07.539><c> understand</c>

00:35:08.019 --> 00:35:10.019
if<00:35:08.179><c> you</c><00:35:08.360><c> visit</c><00:35:08.539><c> our</c><00:35:08.780><c> Ecclesias</c><00:35:09.079><c> and</c><00:35:09.239><c> particularly</c><00:35:09.519><c> if</c><00:35:09.579><c> you</c><00:35:09.719><c> want</c><00:35:09.820><c> to</c>

00:35:10.019 --> 00:35:11.139
join<00:35:10.139><c> our</c><00:35:10.380><c> Ecclesias</c>

00:35:11.139 --> 00:35:14.280
then<00:35:11.139><c> you're</c><00:35:11.860><c> not</c><00:35:11.980><c> going</c><00:35:12.119><c> to</c><00:35:12.219><c> need</c><00:35:12.460><c> to</c><00:35:13.099><c> be</c><00:35:13.360><c> clear</c><00:35:13.539><c> on</c><00:35:13.699><c> this</c><00:35:13.900><c> subject</c><00:35:14.079><c> of</c>

00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:15.599
theistic<00:35:14.519><c> evolution.</c>

00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:18.099
Just<00:35:16.340><c> a</c><00:35:16.500><c> quick</c><00:35:16.820><c> question</c><00:35:17.139><c> if</c><00:35:17.280><c> I</c><00:35:17.400><c> may</c><00:35:17.599><c> on</c><00:35:17.780><c> that.</c>

00:35:18.420 --> 00:35:21.639
By<00:35:18.820><c> that</c><00:35:19.119><c> saying</c><00:35:19.320><c> you</c><00:35:19.440><c> should</c><00:35:19.619><c> not</c><00:35:19.719><c> be</c><00:35:19.940><c> received</c><00:35:20.320><c> as</c><00:35:20.639><c> visitors,</c>

00:35:22.340 --> 00:35:24.179
that's<00:35:22.599><c> not</c><00:35:22.800><c> just</c><00:35:23.039><c> saying</c><00:35:23.280><c> not</c><00:35:23.539><c> taking</c><00:35:23.800><c> your</c><00:35:24.059><c> bread,</c>

00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:26.340
it's<00:35:24.780><c> not</c><00:35:24.940><c> becoming</c><00:35:25.320><c> into</c><00:35:25.579><c> the</c><00:35:25.760><c> Ecclesiast?</c>

00:35:26.340 --> 00:35:28.119
Well,<00:35:26.860><c> we</c><00:35:26.960><c> probably</c><00:35:27.119><c> wouldn't</c><00:35:27.320><c> stop</c><00:35:27.519><c> them</c><00:35:27.659><c> coming</c><00:35:27.840><c> to</c><00:35:27.980><c> the</c>

00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:28.860
Bible<00:35:28.360><c> class,</c>

00:35:29.059 --> 00:35:30.599
but<00:35:29.460><c> if</c><00:35:29.699><c> it's</c><00:35:29.860><c> a</c><00:35:29.900><c> matter</c><00:35:30.059><c> of</c><00:35:30.239><c> fellowshipping,</c>

00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:33.159
and<00:35:30.760><c> we</c><00:35:30.880><c> know</c><00:35:31.079><c> they're</c><00:35:31.280><c> a</c><00:35:31.380><c> promoter</c><00:35:31.739><c> of</c><00:35:31.820><c> theistic</c><00:35:32.079><c> evolution,</c>

00:35:33.699 --> 00:35:36.119
now<00:35:34.099><c> the</c><00:35:34.340><c> ones</c><00:35:34.480><c> out</c><00:35:34.659><c> of</c><00:35:34.800><c> fellowship</c><00:35:35.019><c> obviously</c><00:35:35.420><c> in</c><00:35:35.559><c> our</c><00:35:35.739><c> own</c><00:35:35.920><c> city,</c>

00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:37.179
we<00:35:36.300><c> know</c><00:35:36.440><c> they're</c><00:35:36.559><c> out</c><00:35:36.699><c> of</c><00:35:36.880><c> fellowship,</c>

00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:39.119
but<00:35:37.400><c> if</c><00:35:37.519><c> someone</c><00:35:37.699><c> like</c><00:35:38.320><c> John</c><00:35:38.500><c> O</c><00:35:38.699><c>'Byrke</c><00:35:38.900><c> turned</c><00:35:39.000><c> up,</c>

00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:41.019
quite<00:35:39.280><c> frankly</c><00:35:39.559><c> we</c><00:35:39.699><c> would</c><00:35:39.880><c> not</c><00:35:40.039><c> fellowship</c><00:35:40.360><c> him</c><00:35:40.559><c> without</c><00:35:40.840><c> a</c>

00:35:41.019 --> 00:35:41.760
long<00:35:41.199><c> discussion</c>

00:35:42.260 --> 00:35:44.320
and<00:35:42.659><c> a</c><00:35:42.820><c> satisfactory</c><00:35:43.199><c> discussion.</c>

00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:46.780
And<00:35:44.659><c> I</c><00:35:44.820><c> say</c><00:35:44.940><c> that</c><00:35:45.119><c> because</c><00:35:45.619><c> I</c><00:35:46.000><c> could</c><00:35:46.179><c> actually</c><00:35:46.400><c> say</c><00:35:46.539><c> to</c><00:35:46.679><c> our</c>

00:35:46.780 --> 00:35:47.300
arranging<00:35:47.019><c> brethren,</c>

00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:48.800
I've<00:35:47.519><c> had</c><00:35:47.679><c> the</c><00:35:47.920><c> discussions</c><00:35:48.219><c> over</c><00:35:48.440><c> many</c><00:35:48.639><c> years,</c>

00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:52.280
I<00:35:48.900><c> can</c><00:35:49.099><c> show</c><00:35:49.320><c> you</c><00:35:49.440><c> the</c><00:35:49.579><c> documentation,</c><00:35:50.219><c> I</c><00:35:50.239><c> can</c><00:35:50.440><c> show</c><00:35:50.619><c> you</c><00:35:50.719><c> his</c><00:35:50.880><c> document,</c>

00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:55.260
he<00:35:52.960><c> is</c><00:35:53.239><c> clearly,</c><00:35:53.519><c> and</c><00:35:53.679><c> Jonathan</c><00:35:53.900><c> Pogson</c><00:35:54.159><c> the</c><00:35:54.400><c> same,</c>

00:35:55.500 --> 00:35:57.800
we<00:35:55.760><c> would</c><00:35:55.960><c> not</c><00:35:56.139><c> receive</c><00:35:56.380><c> him</c><00:35:56.519><c> because</c><00:35:56.739><c> he's</c><00:35:56.960><c> gone</c><00:35:57.139><c> into</c><00:35:57.360><c> print</c>

00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:00.820
all<00:35:58.360><c> over</c><00:35:58.579><c> the</c><00:35:58.780><c> world</c><00:35:59.139><c> about</c><00:35:59.739><c> his</c><00:36:00.000><c> views,</c>

00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:03.179
and<00:36:01.039><c> until</c><00:36:01.219><c> they</c><00:36:01.400><c> retracted</c><00:36:01.820><c> they</c><00:36:01.920><c> would</c><00:36:02.059><c> not</c><00:36:02.179><c> be</c><00:36:02.360><c> welcome.</c>

00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:05.940
Because<00:36:03.500><c> we</c><00:36:03.679><c> can</c><00:36:03.860><c> say</c><00:36:04.039><c> they</c><00:36:04.179><c> don't</c><00:36:04.380><c> follow</c><00:36:04.579><c> the</c><00:36:04.800><c> BASF</c>

00:36:05.940 --> 00:36:07.400
and<00:36:06.400><c> say</c><00:36:06.599><c> it</c><00:36:06.719><c> with</c><00:36:06.860><c> great</c><00:36:07.039><c> confidence,</c>

00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:09.820
because<00:36:07.400><c> unless</c><00:36:08.460><c> they</c><00:36:08.619><c> go</c><00:36:08.739><c> out</c><00:36:08.940><c> and</c><00:36:08.980><c> retract</c><00:36:09.280><c> those</c><00:36:09.579><c> views,</c>

00:36:10.019 --> 00:36:11.260
they<00:36:10.019><c> wouldn't</c><00:36:10.239><c> be</c><00:36:10.440><c> fellowship.</c>

00:36:11.500 --> 00:36:13.059
But<00:36:11.519><c> it's</c><00:36:11.699><c> not</c><00:36:11.840><c> our</c><00:36:11.980><c> job</c><00:36:12.099><c> to</c><00:36:12.239><c> put</c><00:36:12.340><c> them</c><00:36:12.460><c> out</c><00:36:12.619><c> of</c><00:36:12.800><c> fellowship</c>

00:36:13.059 --> 00:36:14.739
because<00:36:13.360><c> they</c><00:36:13.559><c> actually</c><00:36:13.860><c> should</c><00:36:13.980><c> be</c><00:36:14.119><c> their</c><00:36:14.260><c> own</c><00:36:14.420><c> ecclesiast</c>

00:36:14.739 --> 00:36:15.800
that<00:36:14.780><c> does</c><00:36:14.980><c> it.</c>

00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:18.059
Just<00:36:16.320><c> a</c><00:36:16.579><c> quick</c><00:36:16.800><c> question,</c><00:36:17.079><c> you</c><00:36:17.239><c> mentioned</c><00:36:17.639><c> yesterday</c>

00:36:18.059 --> 00:36:20.739
about<00:36:18.440><c> the</c><00:36:18.639><c> Berea</c><00:36:19.079><c> State</c><00:36:19.360><c> of</c><00:36:19.519><c> the</c><00:36:19.639><c> Faith</c><00:36:19.739><c> or</c><00:36:19.960><c> the</c><00:36:20.059><c> Berea</c><00:36:20.480><c> State</c>

00:36:20.739 --> 00:36:22.460
of<00:36:20.880><c> the</c><00:36:21.039><c> Faith?</c>

00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:24.239
No,<00:36:24.219><c> the...</c>

00:36:24.239 --> 00:36:26.340
Jonathan<00:36:25.019><c> Burke's...</c>

00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:31.119
Now,<00:36:28.440><c> Jonathan's</c><00:36:28.840><c> website</c><00:36:29.380><c> is</c><00:36:29.659><c> called</c><00:36:29.800><c> the</c><00:36:29.960><c> Berea</c><00:36:30.300><c> Portal.</c>

00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:33.900
So<00:36:31.880><c> Jonathan</c><00:36:32.159><c> Burke's</c><00:36:32.539><c> website</c><00:36:32.679><c> is</c><00:36:32.860><c> called</c><00:36:32.980><c> the</c><00:36:33.139><c> Berea</c><00:36:33.539><c> Portal,</c>

00:36:34.019 --> 00:36:34.840
that's<00:36:34.219><c> what</c><00:36:34.340><c> it's</c><00:36:34.519><c> called.</c>

00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:39.039
So<00:36:35.639><c> they</c><00:36:36.059><c> have</c><00:36:36.300><c> a</c><00:36:36.800><c> chat</c><00:36:37.019><c> room</c><00:36:37.280><c> group</c><00:36:37.539><c> called</c><00:36:37.780><c> the</c><00:36:38.019><c> Bereans,</c>

00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:40.780
you<00:36:39.079><c> know,</c><00:36:39.340><c> those</c><00:36:39.460><c> that</c><00:36:39.659><c> search</c><00:36:39.820><c> the</c><00:36:39.980><c> Scriptures.</c>

00:36:41.260 --> 00:36:43.519
So<00:36:41.500><c> it's</c><00:36:41.679><c> nothing</c><00:36:41.820><c> to</c><00:36:41.940><c> do</c><00:36:42.000><c> with</c><00:36:42.139><c> the</c><00:36:42.320><c> Bereans</c><00:36:42.659><c> in</c><00:36:43.039><c> America.</c>

00:36:43.980 --> 00:36:47.460
Okay,<00:36:44.320><c> it's</c><00:36:44.739><c> Jonathan</c><00:36:45.199><c> Burke's</c><00:36:45.699><c> website,</c><00:36:46.179><c> the</c><00:36:46.360><c> Berea</c><00:36:46.659><c> Portal.</c>

00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:48.860
So<00:36:47.739><c> it's</c><00:36:47.940><c> a</c><00:36:48.059><c> limited</c><00:36:48.260><c> group</c><00:36:48.420><c> of</c><00:36:48.639><c> people</c>

00:36:48.860 --> 00:36:50.980
that<00:36:49.099><c> actually</c><00:36:49.360><c> have</c><00:36:49.519><c> this</c><00:36:49.739><c> discussion</c><00:36:50.159><c> amongst</c><00:36:50.440><c> themselves.</c>

00:36:51.019 --> 00:36:52.599
My<00:36:51.239><c> question</c><00:36:51.579><c> is,</c><00:36:51.760><c> does</c><00:36:51.880><c> it</c><00:36:52.059><c> have</c><00:36:52.320><c> a</c><00:36:52.460><c> statement?</c>

00:36:52.699 --> 00:36:55.000
Yes,<00:36:53.119><c> on</c><00:36:53.360><c> the</c><00:36:53.440><c> Berea</c><00:36:53.679><c> Portal</c><00:36:53.880><c> you'll</c><00:36:54.139><c> find</c><00:36:54.239><c> Jonathan</c><00:36:54.579><c> Burke's</c>

00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:55.639
statement<00:36:55.179><c> of</c><00:36:55.420><c> faith.</c>

00:36:55.940 --> 00:36:59.360
And<00:36:56.420><c> does</c><00:36:56.619><c> that</c><00:36:56.920><c> replace</c><00:36:57.699><c> the</c><00:36:58.000><c> BASF?</c><00:36:58.699><c> Is</c><00:36:58.699><c> it</c><00:36:58.880><c> supposed</c><00:36:59.179><c> to?</c>

00:36:59.619 --> 00:37:02.320
It<00:37:00.099><c> contradicts</c><00:37:00.659><c> the</c><00:37:00.800><c> BASF.</c>

00:37:02.539 --> 00:37:04.699
A<00:37:02.980><c> lot</c><00:37:03.159><c> of</c><00:37:03.280><c> those</c><00:37:03.420><c> people</c><00:37:03.559><c> have</c><00:37:03.719><c> their</c><00:37:03.880><c> own</c><00:37:04.099><c> statement</c><00:37:04.340><c> of</c><00:37:04.699><c> faith.</c>

00:37:04.820 --> 00:37:05.420
It<00:37:04.880><c> doesn't</c><00:37:04.880><c> matter</c><00:37:04.980><c> for</c><00:37:05.199><c> years.</c>

00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:08.280
It's<00:37:05.820><c> kind</c><00:37:06.000><c> of</c><00:37:06.119><c> like</c><00:37:06.400><c> to</c><00:37:07.079><c> look</c><00:37:07.300><c> at</c><00:37:07.440><c> it</c><00:37:07.579><c> and</c><00:37:07.639><c> say,</c>

00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:11.340
what<00:37:08.440><c> would</c><00:37:08.579><c> you</c><00:37:08.719><c> say</c><00:37:08.820><c> to</c><00:37:08.920><c> somebody</c><00:37:09.500><c> if</c><00:37:10.599><c> they</c><00:37:11.000><c> asked</c><00:37:11.139><c> someone</c>

00:37:11.340 --> 00:37:12.159
to<00:37:11.559><c> speak?</c>

00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:12.860
What<00:37:12.360><c> do</c><00:37:12.480><c> you</c><00:37:12.619><c> believe?</c>

00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:14.420
And<00:37:13.199><c> then</c><00:37:13.380><c> it</c><00:37:13.480><c> builds</c><00:37:13.539><c> it</c><00:37:13.719><c> up.</c>

00:37:15.019 --> 00:37:15.460
Yeah.

00:37:15.860 --> 00:37:18.780
So<00:37:16.079><c> they</c><00:37:16.500><c> should</c><00:37:16.679><c> come</c><00:37:16.960><c> up</c><00:37:17.139><c> with</c><00:37:17.400><c> an</c><00:37:17.579><c> absolute</c><00:37:17.780><c> and</c><00:37:17.940><c> alternative</c><00:37:18.440><c> statement</c>

00:37:18.780 --> 00:37:19.860
of<00:37:19.159><c> faith</c>

00:37:19.860 --> 00:37:22.260
amongst<00:37:20.340><c> those</c><00:37:20.719><c> who</c><00:37:20.980><c> participate</c><00:37:21.460><c> in</c><00:37:21.659><c> this</c><00:37:22.019><c> forum.</c>

00:37:22.579 --> 00:37:25.500
You<00:37:22.860><c> have</c><00:37:23.119><c> to</c><00:37:23.300><c> become</c><00:37:23.480><c> a</c><00:37:23.719><c> member,</c><00:37:23.920><c> I</c><00:37:24.119><c> assume,</c><00:37:24.579><c> of</c><00:37:24.579><c> this</c><00:37:25.239><c> forum,</c>

00:37:25.500 --> 00:37:27.400
the<00:37:25.780><c> Berea</c><00:37:26.079><c> Forum,</c><00:37:26.619><c> I</c><00:37:26.619><c> believe,</c>

00:37:27.619 --> 00:37:29.539
to<00:37:27.780><c> become</c><00:37:28.039><c> a</c><00:37:28.079><c> member</c><00:37:28.380><c> of</c><00:37:28.619><c> it.</c>

00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:31.679
You<00:37:30.320><c> don't</c><00:37:30.519><c> have</c><00:37:30.699><c> to</c><00:37:30.760><c> accept</c><00:37:30.940><c> their</c><00:37:31.079><c> statement</c><00:37:31.300><c> of</c><00:37:31.559><c> faith.</c>

00:37:32.059 --> 00:37:34.679
The<00:37:32.179><c> statement</c><00:37:32.320><c> of</c><00:37:32.480><c> faith</c><00:37:32.619><c> is</c><00:37:32.780><c> Jono</c><00:37:33.159><c> Burke's</c><00:37:33.500><c> personal</c><00:37:33.880><c> statement</c><00:37:34.219><c> of</c><00:37:34.400><c> faith</c>

00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:39.440
where<00:37:35.039><c> he's</c><00:37:35.360><c> rewritten</c><00:37:35.679><c> the</c><00:37:35.960><c> BASF</c><00:37:36.519><c> to</c><00:37:37.480><c> include</c><00:37:38.280><c> his</c><00:37:38.539><c> views.</c>

00:37:42.659 --> 00:37:44.699
Yeah,<00:37:42.860><c> look,</c><00:37:43.579><c> there's</c><00:37:43.679><c> lots</c><00:37:43.860><c> of</c><00:37:44.019><c> different</c><00:37:44.260><c> statements</c><00:37:44.500><c> of</c>

00:37:44.699 --> 00:37:45.380
faiths<00:37:44.900><c> in</c><00:37:44.980><c> the</c><00:37:45.119><c> Brotherhood,</c>

00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:46.860
but<00:37:45.500><c> they</c><00:37:45.679><c> all</c><00:37:45.800><c> have</c><00:37:45.940><c> to</c><00:37:46.099><c> agree</c><00:37:46.280><c> with</c><00:37:46.440><c> the</c><00:37:46.559><c> BASF.</c>

00:37:46.900 --> 00:37:48.420
That's<00:37:47.119><c> the</c><00:37:47.239><c> point,</c><00:37:47.420><c> that</c><00:37:47.559><c> you</c><00:37:47.659><c> can</c><00:37:47.739><c> have</c><00:37:47.800><c> any</c><00:37:48.039><c> statement</c><00:37:48.260><c> of</c>

00:37:48.420 --> 00:37:48.780
faith<00:37:48.500><c> you</c><00:37:48.659><c> like,</c>

00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:50.800
but<00:37:48.900><c> it's</c><00:37:49.139><c> got</c><00:37:49.300><c> to</c><00:37:49.519><c> agree</c><00:37:49.880><c> with</c><00:37:50.039><c> the</c><00:37:50.199><c> BASF.</c>

00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:52.639
Theirs<00:37:51.300><c> does</c><00:37:51.599><c> not</c><00:37:51.780><c> agree.</c>

00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:55.019
Okay,<00:37:53.559><c> and</c><00:37:53.699><c> that's</c><00:37:53.860><c> the</c><00:37:53.940><c> point.</c><00:37:54.079><c> Sorry,</c><00:37:54.440><c> Dan.</c>

00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:01.619
It's<00:37:59.840><c> all</c><00:37:59.900><c> right.</c><00:37:59.960><c> He</c><00:38:00.079><c> doesn't</c><00:38:00.340><c> agree</c><00:38:00.460><c> with</c><00:38:00.559><c> the</c><00:38:00.719><c> BASF.</c>

00:38:01.860 --> 00:38:03.619
So<00:38:01.860><c> if</c><00:38:03.079><c> you</c><00:38:03.219><c> want</c><00:38:03.320><c> to...</c>

00:38:03.619 --> 00:38:05.460
I<00:38:03.619><c> think</c><00:38:03.860><c> James</c><00:38:04.099><c> has</c><00:38:04.280><c> got</c><00:38:04.340><c> it</c><00:38:04.480><c> on</c><00:38:04.519><c> his</c><00:38:04.739><c> phone</c><00:38:04.860><c> anyway,</c>

00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:07.480
but<00:38:06.179><c> you</c><00:38:06.300><c> can</c><00:38:06.679><c> check</c><00:38:06.860><c> it</c><00:38:06.980><c> over</c><00:38:07.139><c> lunch.</c>

00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:09.920
But<00:38:08.079><c> he</c><00:38:08.199><c> has</c><00:38:08.380><c> got</c><00:38:08.500><c> his</c><00:38:08.699><c> own</c><00:38:08.940><c> statement</c><00:38:09.139><c> of</c><00:38:09.380><c> faith</c><00:38:09.460><c> which</c><00:38:09.619><c> does</c>

00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:11.079
not<00:38:10.139><c> agree.</c>

00:38:11.260 --> 00:38:13.139
And<00:38:11.420><c> he</c><00:38:11.579><c> agrees</c><00:38:11.800><c> that</c><00:38:11.920><c> it</c><00:38:12.000><c> doesn't</c><00:38:12.159><c> agree.</c>

00:38:14.159 --> 00:38:15.800
But<00:38:14.599><c> it's</c><00:38:15.039><c> on</c><00:38:15.179><c> the</c><00:38:15.320><c> Berea</c><00:38:15.579><c> portal.</c>

00:38:15.940 --> 00:38:16.380
That's<00:38:16.099><c> where</c><00:38:16.179><c> you</c><00:38:16.179><c> want</c><00:38:16.300><c> it.</c>

00:38:16.380 --> 00:38:19.579
And<00:38:16.480><c> that's</c><00:38:16.679><c> why</c><00:38:17.400><c> the</c><00:38:17.820><c> Ecclesiastodelphians</c><00:38:18.400><c> love</c><00:38:18.579><c> it.</c>

00:38:20.659 --> 00:38:23.539
Okay,<00:38:21.079><c> so</c><00:38:21.320><c> that's</c><00:38:21.539><c> what</c><00:38:21.760><c> I</c><00:38:21.800><c> think</c><00:38:22.000><c> Ecclesiastes</c><00:38:22.400><c> should</c><00:38:22.619><c> do.</c>

00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:27.119
We<00:38:24.900><c> quoted</c><00:38:25.099><c> the</c><00:38:25.320><c> Watford</c><00:38:25.519><c>-Wankoen</c><00:38:25.900><c> again</c><00:38:26.179><c> about</c><00:38:26.500><c> the</c><00:38:26.739><c> arguing</c>

00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:27.619
of<00:38:27.400><c> the</c><00:38:27.480><c> science.</c>

00:38:27.619 --> 00:38:30.059
Ecclesiastes<00:38:27.679><c> do</c><00:38:27.880><c> not</c><00:38:28.079><c> encourage</c><00:38:28.400><c> people</c><00:38:28.599><c> to</c><00:38:28.760><c> go</c><00:38:28.820><c> into</c><00:38:29.039><c> arguing</c><00:38:29.559><c> the</c><00:38:29.820><c> science.</c>

00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:31.739
In<00:38:30.179><c> fact,</c><00:38:30.559><c> discourage</c><00:38:30.940><c> them</c><00:38:31.079><c> from</c><00:38:31.280><c> doing</c><00:38:31.480><c> that</c>

00:38:31.739 --> 00:38:34.280
because<00:38:32.340><c> as</c><00:38:32.760><c> the</c><00:38:32.900><c> Watford</c><00:38:33.159><c> Brethren</c><00:38:33.420><c> found,</c>

00:38:34.300 --> 00:38:36.760
they<00:38:34.300><c> faced</c><00:38:34.880><c> the</c><00:38:35.119><c> threats</c><00:38:35.320><c> of</c><00:38:35.519><c> agnosticism</c><00:38:36.179><c> and</c><00:38:36.320><c> destruction</c>

00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:37.760
of<00:38:37.039><c> faith.</c>

00:38:38.239 --> 00:38:40.659
And<00:38:38.239><c> that's</c><00:38:38.639><c> where</c><00:38:38.760><c> you</c><00:38:38.900><c> get</c><00:38:39.199><c> lost</c><00:38:39.500><c> in</c><00:38:39.679><c> the</c><00:38:39.840><c> scientific</c><00:38:40.260><c> argument.</c>

00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:42.239
That's<00:38:40.980><c> where</c><00:38:41.119><c> you</c><00:38:41.320><c> go.</c>

00:38:43.860 --> 00:38:44.940
You<00:38:43.860><c> know,</c><00:38:44.019><c> some</c><00:38:44.099><c> interesting</c><00:38:44.519><c> things.</c>

00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:46.800
How<00:38:45.300><c> Christodophians</c><00:38:45.880><c> think.</c>

00:38:47.579 --> 00:38:49.539
When<00:38:47.940><c> we</c><00:38:48.199><c> first</c><00:38:48.460><c> proposed</c><00:38:48.960><c> this</c><00:38:49.300><c> statement</c>

00:38:49.539 --> 00:38:51.980
that<00:38:49.699><c> the</c><00:38:49.820><c> Adelaide</c><00:38:50.079><c> Ecclesias</c><00:38:50.460><c> have</c><00:38:50.619><c> signed</c><00:38:50.820><c> up</c><00:38:51.099><c> to,</c>

00:38:52.739 --> 00:38:55.199
this<00:38:53.039><c> was</c><00:38:53.280><c> sent</c><00:38:53.460><c> to</c><00:38:53.619><c> me</c><00:38:53.800><c> because</c><00:38:54.000><c> I</c><00:38:54.199><c> was</c><00:38:54.380><c> the</c><00:38:54.699><c> original</c><00:38:54.960><c> author</c>

00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:56.440
of<00:38:55.360><c> the</c><00:38:55.539><c> document.</c>

00:38:57.500 --> 00:38:59.440
Such<00:38:57.940><c> action,</c><00:38:58.539><c> which</c><00:38:58.559><c> was</c><00:38:58.860><c> combating</c><00:38:59.179><c> TE,</c>

00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:02.199
is<00:38:59.780><c> presumptuous,</c><00:39:00.519><c> irresponsible</c><00:39:01.099><c> and</c><00:39:01.320><c> unbrotherly.</c>

00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:04.460
It<00:39:02.679><c> will</c><00:39:02.699><c> only</c><00:39:02.880><c> lead</c><00:39:03.079><c> to</c><00:39:03.239><c> division</c><00:39:03.559><c> on</c><00:39:03.739><c> what</c><00:39:03.840><c> has</c><00:39:04.019><c> always</c><00:39:04.260><c> been</c>

00:39:04.460 --> 00:39:06.039
an<00:39:04.599><c> uncertain</c><00:39:05.019><c> detail.</c>

00:39:06.659 --> 00:39:08.059
And<00:39:07.019><c> it's</c><00:39:07.460><c> interesting,</c><00:39:07.719><c> isn't</c><00:39:07.900><c> it,</c>

00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:12.039
how<00:39:08.320><c> when</c><00:39:08.519><c> you</c><00:39:08.780><c> say</c><00:39:09.000><c> the</c><00:39:09.360><c> wolf,</c><00:39:09.619><c> wolf,</c><00:39:09.880><c> wolf,</c><00:39:10.159><c> somebody</c><00:39:10.420><c> say</c><00:39:10.800><c> troublemaker.</c>

00:39:13.019 --> 00:39:15.300
And<00:39:13.460><c> that's</c><00:39:13.679><c> a</c><00:39:13.739><c> bit</c><00:39:13.800><c> of</c><00:39:13.920><c> the</c><00:39:13.980><c> reaction</c><00:39:14.159><c> we</c><00:39:14.400><c> got</c><00:39:14.500><c> from</c><00:39:14.699><c> a</c><00:39:14.760><c> lot</c><00:39:14.880><c> of</c><00:39:15.039><c> quarters,</c>

00:39:15.420 --> 00:39:17.159
that<00:39:15.619><c> we're</c><00:39:15.920><c> stirring</c><00:39:16.139><c> up</c><00:39:16.619><c> agitation.</c>

00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:19.400
And<00:39:17.659><c> particularly</c><00:39:17.880><c> people</c><00:39:18.099><c> in</c><00:39:18.199><c> Melbourne</c><00:39:18.500><c> were</c><00:39:18.719><c> quite</c><00:39:18.960><c> concerned</c>

00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.219
that<00:39:19.539><c> we</c><00:39:19.719><c> were</c><00:39:20.119><c> going</c><00:39:20.400><c> to</c><00:39:20.639><c> divide</c><00:39:20.900><c> the</c><00:39:21.239><c> Ecclesias</c><00:39:21.619><c> and</c><00:39:21.739><c> so</c><00:39:22.039><c> forth.</c>

00:39:22.219 --> 00:39:25.159
You<00:39:23.119><c> said,</c><00:39:23.599><c> we're</c><00:39:23.619><c> just</c><00:39:23.800><c> trying</c><00:39:23.940><c> to</c><00:39:24.280><c> point</c><00:39:24.480><c> out</c><00:39:24.579><c> there's</c><00:39:24.760><c> a</c><00:39:24.880><c> wolf</c><00:39:25.000><c> in</c>

00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:26.179
the<00:39:25.340><c> flock.</c>

00:39:26.860 --> 00:39:30.179
But<00:39:27.139><c> it's</c><00:39:27.400><c> just</c><00:39:27.659><c> an</c><00:39:27.659><c> interesting</c><00:39:28.000><c> little</c><00:39:28.260><c> cartoon,</c><00:39:28.739><c> isn't</c><00:39:28.840><c> it?</c>

00:39:31.059 --> 00:39:33.599
OK,<00:39:31.440><c> the</c><00:39:31.579><c> Bible's</c><00:39:32.000><c> advice,</c><00:39:32.480><c> well,</c><00:39:32.920><c> I'll</c><00:39:33.099><c> just</c><00:39:33.239><c> quote</c><00:39:33.420><c> you</c>

00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:35.860
and<00:39:33.599><c> leave</c><00:39:33.800><c> you</c><00:39:33.940><c> with</c><00:39:34.059><c> Romans</c><00:39:34.320><c> 16</c><00:39:34.739><c> again.</c>

00:39:36.440 --> 00:39:37.960
Watch<00:39:36.539><c> out</c><00:39:36.739><c> for</c><00:39:36.860><c> those</c><00:39:37.099><c> who</c><00:39:37.320><c> cause</c><00:39:37.539><c> divisions</c>

00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:40.440
and<00:39:38.159><c> create</c><00:39:38.400><c> obstacles</c><00:39:38.900><c> contrary</c><00:39:39.559><c> to</c><00:39:39.820><c> the</c><00:39:40.059><c> doctrine</c>

00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:43.400
that<00:39:40.639><c> you</c><00:39:40.840><c> have</c><00:39:41.000><c> been</c><00:39:41.280><c> taught</c><00:39:41.719><c> and</c><00:39:42.679><c> avoid</c><00:39:43.000><c> them.</c>

00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:45.820
Such<00:39:44.039><c> persons</c><00:39:44.360><c> do</c><00:39:44.579><c> not</c><00:39:44.800><c> serve</c><00:39:45.000><c> the</c><00:39:45.079><c> Lord</c><00:39:45.199><c> Jesus</c><00:39:45.559><c> Christ</c>

00:39:45.820 --> 00:39:47.159
but<00:39:45.960><c> their</c><00:39:46.139><c> own</c><00:39:46.340><c> appetites,</c>

00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:49.920
and<00:39:47.440><c> by</c><00:39:47.679><c> smooth</c><00:39:48.039><c> talk</c><00:39:48.320><c> and</c><00:39:48.599><c> flattery</c><00:39:48.900><c> they</c><00:39:49.099><c> deceive</c><00:39:49.360><c> the</c><00:39:49.579><c> hearts</c><00:39:49.739><c> of</c>

00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:50.400
the<00:39:50.059><c> naive.</c>

00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:52.940
And<00:39:51.039><c> that</c><00:39:51.239><c> really</c><00:39:51.420><c> is</c><00:39:51.619><c> the</c><00:39:51.760><c> warning</c><00:39:51.920><c> which</c><00:39:52.119><c> we</c><00:39:52.280><c> need</c><00:39:52.380><c> to</c><00:39:52.599><c> take</c><00:39:52.739><c> away</c>

00:39:52.940 --> 00:39:56.119
as<00:39:53.119><c> we</c><00:39:53.380><c> contend</c><00:39:54.300><c> earnestly</c><00:39:54.739><c> for</c><00:39:54.920><c> the</c><00:39:55.139><c> faith.</c>

00:39:56.900 --> 00:39:58.159
OK,<00:39:57.139><c> questions?</c>

00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:02.659
OK,<00:40:00.880><c> you're</c><00:40:01.019><c> obviously</c><00:40:01.179><c> all</c><00:40:01.380><c> hungry</c><00:40:01.599><c> for</c><00:40:01.820><c> lunch.</c>

00:40:03.699 --> 00:40:05.599
Any<00:40:03.880><c> questions?</c><00:40:04.559><c> Yeah,</c><00:40:04.860><c> Tim.</c>

00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:11.019
Given<00:40:06.860><c> that</c><00:40:07.059><c> this</c><00:40:07.619><c> is</c><00:40:08.280><c> largely</c><00:40:08.980><c> advanced</c><00:40:09.940><c> online,</c>

00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:14.300
have<00:40:11.579><c> there</c><00:40:11.760><c> been</c><00:40:11.840><c> any</c><00:40:12.099><c> discussions</c><00:40:12.519><c> among</c><00:40:12.860><c> the</c><00:40:13.079><c> Adelaide</c><00:40:13.360><c> Colleges</c>

00:40:15.019 --> 00:40:17.519
on<00:40:15.460><c> the</c><00:40:15.659><c> fact</c><00:40:15.800><c> that</c><00:40:16.019><c> the</c><00:40:16.179><c> Brotherhood</c><00:40:16.559><c> is</c><00:40:16.780><c> going</c><00:40:16.920><c> to</c><00:40:17.079><c> have</c><00:40:17.219><c> to</c>

00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:19.800
at<00:40:17.539><c> some</c><00:40:17.860><c> point</c><00:40:18.099><c> address</c><00:40:18.820><c> the</c><00:40:19.460><c> internet?</c>

00:40:20.260 --> 00:40:23.099
OK,<00:40:20.820><c> there</c><00:40:20.980><c> is</c><00:40:21.179><c> a</c><00:40:21.360><c> committee,</c><00:40:22.079><c> well,</c><00:40:22.280><c> I</c><00:40:22.340><c> say</c><00:40:22.460><c> committee,</c><00:40:22.980><c> a</c>

00:40:23.099 --> 00:40:24.000
self<00:40:23.300><c>-appointed</c><00:40:23.599><c> committee,</c>

00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:25.719
not<00:40:24.400><c> appointed</c><00:40:24.679><c> by</c><00:40:24.880><c> the</c><00:40:25.039><c> Ecclesiastes,</c><00:40:25.400><c> but</c><00:40:25.480><c> a</c><00:40:25.599><c> self</c>

00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:26.380
-appointed<00:40:26.000><c> committee</c>

00:40:26.380 --> 00:40:29.099
of<00:40:26.559><c> people</c><00:40:26.900><c> both</c><00:40:27.219><c> in</c><00:40:27.460><c> Adelaide</c><00:40:27.820><c> and</c><00:40:28.139><c> overseas</c>

00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:33.639
and<00:40:29.519><c> in</c><00:40:29.920><c> other</c><00:40:30.099><c> places</c><00:40:30.380><c> in</c><00:40:30.619><c> Australia</c><00:40:30.980><c> who</c><00:40:31.239><c> are</c><00:40:32.599><c> taking</c><00:40:33.360><c> this</c>

00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:34.420
debate<00:40:33.900><c> on</c><00:40:34.159><c> head</c><00:40:34.320><c> on.</c>

00:40:34.500 --> 00:40:37.219
And<00:40:34.559><c> they've</c><00:40:34.699><c> actually</c><00:40:34.940><c> gone</c><00:40:35.119><c> into</c><00:40:35.340><c> these</c><00:40:35.719><c> sites</c><00:40:36.019><c> and</c><00:40:36.420><c> debated</c><00:40:36.739><c> these</c><00:40:36.980><c> people</c>

00:40:37.219 --> 00:40:39.940
to<00:40:37.380><c> the</c><00:40:37.519><c> point</c><00:40:37.699><c> where</c><00:40:38.619><c> John</c><00:40:38.840><c> O</c><00:40:39.039><c>'Byrke</c><00:40:39.199><c> and</c><00:40:39.320><c> his</c><00:40:39.519><c> companions</c>

00:40:39.940 --> 00:40:41.380
excluded<00:40:40.460><c> them</c><00:40:40.619><c> from</c><00:40:40.780><c> their</c><00:40:41.019><c> sites.</c>

00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:44.119
So<00:40:41.820><c> it's</c><00:40:42.019><c> become</c><00:40:42.280><c> a,</c><00:40:42.900><c> it</c><00:40:43.099><c> got</c><00:40:43.239><c> to</c><00:40:43.420><c> a</c><00:40:43.519><c> point</c><00:40:43.639><c> where</c><00:40:43.800><c> the</c><00:40:43.980><c> debate,</c>

00:40:44.179 --> 00:40:46.960
and<00:40:44.260><c> the</c><00:40:44.380><c> debate,</c><00:40:44.860><c> it's</c><00:40:45.059><c> incredible,</c><00:40:45.599><c> they</c><00:40:45.900><c> send</c><00:40:46.099><c> you</c><00:40:46.380><c> volumes</c><00:40:46.679><c> like</c>

00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:47.780
this<00:40:47.119><c> when</c><00:40:47.260><c> you</c><00:40:47.440><c> print</c><00:40:47.519><c> it</c><00:40:47.699><c> out.</c>

00:40:47.780 --> 00:40:50.559
It's<00:40:48.039><c> volumes</c><00:40:48.260><c> and</c><00:40:48.460><c> volumes</c><00:40:48.719><c> of</c><00:40:49.400><c> fighting</c><00:40:49.639><c> going</c><00:40:49.900><c> on,</c>

00:40:50.980 --> 00:40:52.719
you<00:40:51.079><c> know,</c><00:40:51.079><c> people</c><00:40:51.260><c> debating</c><00:40:51.579><c> the</c><00:40:51.880><c> scientific</c><00:40:52.219><c> viewpoints</c>

00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:53.239
and<00:40:52.900><c> so</c><00:40:53.099><c> forth,</c>

00:40:53.300 --> 00:40:54.880
and<00:40:53.400><c> the</c><00:40:53.539><c> Bible</c><00:40:53.760><c> viewpoints.</c>

00:40:55.179 --> 00:40:58.099
Quite<00:40:55.440><c> incredible,</c><00:40:56.039><c> the</c><00:40:56.239><c> volume</c><00:40:56.519><c> of</c><00:40:56.639><c> it,</c><00:40:56.760><c> just</c><00:40:56.960><c> amazing.</c>

00:40:58.940 --> 00:41:02.559
But<00:40:59.099><c> the</c><00:40:59.800><c> brethren</c><00:41:00.039><c> from</c><00:41:00.380><c> our</c><00:41:00.619><c> side</c><00:41:00.760><c> of</c><00:41:00.880><c> the</c><00:41:01.059><c> question</c><00:41:01.360><c> say</c><00:41:01.619><c> that</c><00:41:01.780><c> they</c><00:41:01.960><c> have</c><00:41:02.139><c> put</c><00:41:02.340><c> to</c>

00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:03.380
silence<00:41:02.880><c> these</c><00:41:03.119><c> people</c>

00:41:03.380 --> 00:41:05.380
because<00:41:03.639><c> they</c><00:41:03.940><c> refuse</c><00:41:04.139><c> to</c><00:41:04.340><c> talk</c><00:41:04.440><c> about</c><00:41:04.539><c> it</c><00:41:04.659><c> anymore.</c>

00:41:05.619 --> 00:41:07.659
So<00:41:05.960><c> they've</c><00:41:06.260><c> actually</c><00:41:06.519><c> got</c><00:41:06.679><c> them</c><00:41:06.739><c> to</c><00:41:06.860><c> the</c><00:41:07.000><c> point</c><00:41:07.139><c> where</c><00:41:07.340><c> they</c>

00:41:07.659 --> 00:41:09.219
will<00:41:07.860><c> not</c><00:41:08.099><c> talk</c><00:41:08.320><c> anymore.</c>

00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:11.300
So<00:41:09.659><c> they</c><00:41:09.820><c> have</c><00:41:10.000><c> done</c><00:41:10.119><c> a</c><00:41:10.199><c> lot</c><00:41:10.239><c> of</c><00:41:10.340><c> good</c><00:41:10.420><c> in</c><00:41:10.599><c> shutting</c><00:41:10.800><c> them</c><00:41:11.059><c> down.</c>

00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:14.420
And<00:41:11.559><c> a</c><00:41:11.659><c> lot</c><00:41:11.760><c> of</c><00:41:11.960><c> the</c><00:41:12.599><c> very</c><00:41:12.920><c> unprofitable</c><00:41:13.519><c> chatter</c><00:41:13.760><c> has</c><00:41:14.059><c> stopped</c>

00:41:14.420 --> 00:41:17.539
on<00:41:14.780><c> the</c><00:41:14.940><c> Watchman</c><00:41:15.260><c> sites</c><00:41:15.500><c> being</c><00:41:15.780><c> closed</c><00:41:16.039><c> down,</c><00:41:16.199><c> for</c><00:41:16.440><c> example.</c>

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But,<00:41:19.440><c> of</c><00:41:19.599><c> course,</c><00:41:19.960><c> the</c><00:41:20.039><c> Berea</c><00:41:20.320><c> guys</c><00:41:20.539><c> are</c><00:41:20.739><c> still</c><00:41:20.900><c> going</c><00:41:21.119><c> with</c>

00:41:21.260 --> 00:41:21.980
their<00:41:21.480><c> own</c><00:41:21.659><c> network.</c>

00:41:22.420 --> 00:41:25.159
And<00:41:22.460><c> what</c><00:41:22.579><c> they</c><00:41:22.719><c> do</c><00:41:22.840><c> is</c><00:41:22.960><c> they</c><00:41:23.199><c> exclude</c><00:41:23.500><c> people</c><00:41:23.840><c> who</c><00:41:24.079><c> oppose</c><00:41:24.380><c> them.</c>

00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:26.199
So<00:41:25.480><c> they</c><00:41:25.619><c> cut</c><00:41:25.820><c> you</c><00:41:26.000><c> out.</c>

00:41:26.380 --> 00:41:28.300
And<00:41:26.400><c> they've</c><00:41:26.739><c> got</c><00:41:26.840><c> it</c><00:41:27.019><c> fairly</c><00:41:27.139><c> limited</c><00:41:27.480><c> to</c><00:41:27.780><c> talk</c><00:41:28.000><c> to</c><00:41:28.099><c> the</c><00:41:28.199><c> ones</c>

00:41:28.300 --> 00:41:29.639
they<00:41:28.480><c> want</c><00:41:28.659><c> to</c><00:41:28.800><c> talk</c><00:41:28.940><c> to.</c>

00:41:30.179 --> 00:41:36.940
One<00:41:30.699><c> of</c><00:41:31.219><c> the</c><00:41:31.619><c> big</c><00:41:31.920><c> takeaways</c><00:41:32.360><c> is</c><00:41:33.599><c> we</c><00:41:34.579><c> can</c><00:41:34.880><c> choose</c><00:41:35.460><c> what</c><00:41:36.099><c> we</c><00:41:36.460><c> want</c><00:41:36.659><c> to</c><00:41:36.840><c> be.</c>

00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:40.159
We<00:41:37.079><c> can</c><00:41:37.199><c> be</c><00:41:37.300><c> good</c><00:41:37.519><c> Bible</c><00:41:37.780><c> students</c><00:41:38.099><c> or</c><00:41:38.360><c> we</c><00:41:38.360><c> can</c><00:41:38.599><c> become</c><00:41:38.880><c> good</c><00:41:39.039><c> scientists.</c>

00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:44.440
And<00:41:40.659><c> becoming</c><00:41:40.880><c> better</c><00:41:41.179><c> Bible</c><00:41:41.559><c> students</c><00:41:41.940><c> is</c><00:41:42.380><c> a</c><00:41:42.500><c> far</c><00:41:42.619><c> better</c><00:41:42.840><c> way</c><00:41:43.159><c> to</c>

00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:46.639
deal<00:41:44.760><c> with</c><00:41:45.000><c> the</c><00:41:45.239><c> challenges</c><00:41:45.780><c> head</c><00:41:46.179><c> on</c>

00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:49.619
and<00:41:47.480><c> give</c><00:41:47.679><c> us</c><00:41:47.920><c> the</c><00:41:48.079><c> insight</c><00:41:48.340><c> of</c><00:41:48.440><c> how</c><00:41:48.559><c> to</c><00:41:48.760><c> deal</c><00:41:48.980><c> with</c><00:41:49.360><c> things</c>

00:41:49.619 --> 00:41:51.940
like<00:41:50.400><c> the</c><00:41:50.980><c> way</c><00:41:51.199><c> the</c><00:41:51.380><c> internet</c><00:41:51.579><c> works</c>

00:41:51.940 --> 00:41:54.219
and<00:41:52.159><c> the</c><00:41:52.159><c> way</c><00:41:52.360><c> the</c><00:41:52.480><c> internet</c><00:41:52.639><c> impacts</c><00:41:53.099><c> our</c><00:41:53.440><c> Bible</c><00:41:53.619><c> reading.</c>

00:41:54.219 --> 00:41:57.539
But<00:41:54.739><c> for</c><00:41:55.039><c> better</c><00:41:55.219><c> Bible</c><00:41:55.559><c> students,</c><00:41:56.380><c> it</c><00:41:56.500><c> helps</c><00:41:56.719><c> a</c><00:41:56.920><c> lot.</c>

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Yeah,<00:42:00.400><c> it's</c><00:42:00.579><c> a</c><00:42:00.659><c> bit</c><00:42:00.820><c> sad</c><00:42:01.019><c> because</c><00:42:01.340><c> the</c><00:42:01.980><c> problem</c><00:42:02.159><c> is</c><00:42:02.420><c> that</c><00:42:02.940><c> a</c><00:42:02.980><c> lot</c><00:42:03.099><c> of</c>

00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:03.840
the<00:42:03.320><c> older</c><00:42:03.519><c> brethren</c>

00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:07.900
just<00:42:04.539><c> are</c><00:42:04.780><c> not</c><00:42:05.000><c> involved</c><00:42:05.380><c> in</c><00:42:05.519><c> this</c><00:42:06.679><c> area</c><00:42:07.059><c> at</c><00:42:07.280><c> all.</c>

00:42:08.460 --> 00:42:11.940
They're<00:42:08.900><c> just</c><00:42:09.079><c> not</c><00:42:09.699><c> cyber</c><00:42:10.539><c> literate.</c>

00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:14.639
So<00:42:12.599><c> we</c><00:42:13.039><c> don't</c><00:42:13.199><c> even</c><00:42:13.400><c> know</c><00:42:13.539><c> the</c><00:42:13.699><c> debate's</c><00:42:14.059><c> happening</c><00:42:14.260><c> most</c><00:42:14.519><c> of</c>

00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:14.840
the<00:42:14.719><c> time.</c>

00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:16.480
But<00:42:15.000><c> there</c><00:42:15.219><c> is</c><00:42:15.400><c> a</c><00:42:15.500><c> group</c><00:42:15.599><c> that</c><00:42:15.760><c> has</c><00:42:15.840><c> actually</c><00:42:16.019><c> done</c><00:42:16.119><c> a</c><00:42:16.199><c> lot</c><00:42:16.340><c> of</c>

00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:16.940
good<00:42:16.679><c> work</c>

00:42:16.940 --> 00:42:19.480
in<00:42:17.300><c> putting</c><00:42:17.559><c> the</c><00:42:18.619><c> opposite</c><00:42:18.960><c> arguments.</c>

00:42:19.940 --> 00:42:22.260
And<00:42:20.079><c> they</c><00:42:20.460><c> claim</c><00:42:20.719><c> that</c><00:42:20.880><c> they</c><00:42:21.039><c> have</c><00:42:21.179><c> actually</c><00:42:21.719><c> pretty</c><00:42:22.000><c> well</c>

00:42:22.260 --> 00:42:23.480
silenced<00:42:22.719><c> them.</c>

00:42:23.940 --> 00:42:26.179
But<00:42:24.340><c> the</c><00:42:24.739><c> two</c><00:42:24.840><c> of</c><00:42:24.920><c> you</c><00:42:24.960><c> guys</c><00:42:25.159><c> obviously</c><00:42:25.480><c> have</c><00:42:25.639><c> their</c><00:42:25.840><c> networks.</c>

00:42:26.599 --> 00:42:28.519
And<00:42:26.679><c> they</c><00:42:26.820><c> are</c><00:42:27.039><c> very</c><00:42:27.800><c> nice</c><00:42:28.139><c> to</c><00:42:28.340><c> people.</c>

00:42:28.539 --> 00:42:30.119
They<00:42:28.679><c> think</c><00:42:28.840><c> they're</c><00:42:29.019><c> going</c><00:42:29.099><c> to</c><00:42:29.280><c> convert.</c>

00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:32.579
But<00:42:30.500><c> they're</c><00:42:30.699><c> very,</c><00:42:30.980><c> very</c><00:42:31.500><c> aggressive</c><00:42:31.920><c> to</c><00:42:32.119><c> people</c><00:42:32.340><c> that</c>

00:42:32.579 --> 00:42:33.900
oppose<00:42:32.800><c> them.</c>

00:42:58.099 --> 00:43:00.659
Well,<00:42:58.460><c> it's</c><00:42:58.820><c> very</c><00:42:59.260><c> hard</c><00:42:59.420><c> to</c><00:42:59.539><c> get</c><00:42:59.639><c> a</c><00:42:59.739><c> united</c><00:43:00.059><c> statement</c><00:43:00.400><c> across</c>

00:43:00.659 --> 00:43:01.619
many<00:43:00.940><c> ecclesias.</c>

00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:10.900
Well,<00:43:08.559><c> that's</c><00:43:08.920><c> why</c><00:43:09.099><c> I</c><00:43:09.119><c> put</c><00:43:09.260><c> up</c><00:43:09.380><c> there</c><00:43:09.519><c> to</c><00:43:09.699><c> avoid</c><00:43:09.980><c> them.</c>

00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:12.440
You<00:43:11.019><c> know,</c><00:43:11.260><c> because</c><00:43:11.440><c> I</c><00:43:11.539><c> think</c><00:43:11.619><c> we</c><00:43:11.739><c> should</c><00:43:11.900><c> avoid</c><00:43:12.159><c> them.</c>

00:43:12.820 --> 00:43:14.699
And<00:43:12.960><c> I</c><00:43:13.079><c> wouldn't</c><00:43:13.280><c> advise</c><00:43:13.500><c> any</c><00:43:13.719><c> young</c><00:43:13.880><c> person</c><00:43:14.139><c> to</c><00:43:14.280><c> go</c><00:43:14.420><c> down</c><00:43:14.579><c> the</c>

00:43:14.699 --> 00:43:15.840
line<00:43:14.820><c> of</c><00:43:14.960><c> trying</c><00:43:15.139><c> to</c><00:43:15.320><c> debate</c><00:43:15.519><c> them.</c>

00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:17.980
And<00:43:16.280><c> I</c><00:43:16.400><c> say</c><00:43:16.480><c> to</c><00:43:16.599><c> people,</c><00:43:17.079><c> don't</c><00:43:17.079><c> go</c><00:43:17.280><c> and</c><00:43:17.440><c> argue</c><00:43:17.519><c> the</c><00:43:17.760><c> science.</c>

00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:19.639
Because<00:43:18.119><c> that's</c><00:43:18.300><c> where</c><00:43:18.400><c> they'll</c><00:43:18.539><c> take</c><00:43:18.739><c> you</c><00:43:18.900><c> first</c><00:43:19.139><c> up,</c><00:43:19.380><c> argue</c>

00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:20.679
the<00:43:19.900><c> science.</c>

00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:23.800
We<00:43:22.199><c> have</c><00:43:22.420><c> actually,</c><00:43:22.719><c> we</c><00:43:22.840><c> are</c><00:43:23.019><c> creating</c><00:43:23.300><c> a</c><00:43:23.460><c> website.</c>

00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:26.360
On<00:43:24.199><c> the</c><00:43:24.639><c> document</c><00:43:24.940><c> you'll</c><00:43:25.159><c> get</c><00:43:25.260><c> at</c><00:43:25.400><c> the</c><00:43:25.460><c> end</c><00:43:25.639><c> of</c><00:43:25.780><c> the</c><00:43:25.960><c> studies</c>

00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:31.460
will<00:43:27.139><c> be</c><00:43:27.380><c> a</c><00:43:27.639><c> website</c><00:43:28.000><c> called</c><00:43:28.260><c> Christadolphinanswers</c><00:43:30.059><c>.org.</c>

00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:35.539
It's<00:43:32.800><c> about</c><00:43:33.179><c> 60</c><00:43:33.519><c>%</c><00:43:33.940><c> populated</c><00:43:34.360><c> at</c><00:43:34.539><c> the</c><00:43:34.659><c> moment.</c>

00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:38.179
But<00:43:35.840><c> we're</c><00:43:36.079><c> getting</c><00:43:36.760><c> brethren</c><00:43:37.159><c> who</c><00:43:37.519><c> know</c><00:43:37.760><c> what</c><00:43:37.880><c> they're</c>

00:43:38.179 --> 00:43:38.519
talking<00:43:38.260><c> about</c>

00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:41.880
to<00:43:38.699><c> write</c><00:43:38.820><c> articles</c><00:43:39.159><c> on</c><00:43:39.380><c> these</c><00:43:39.559><c> subjects</c><00:43:39.980><c> from</c><00:43:40.300><c> a</c><00:43:40.440><c> biblical</c><00:43:40.760><c> perspective.</c>

00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:44.659
And<00:43:42.460><c> we've</c><00:43:42.619><c> had</c><00:43:42.719><c> some</c><00:43:43.099><c> scientists</c><00:43:43.340><c> contribute</c><00:43:43.760><c> articles</c><00:43:44.099><c> there</c><00:43:44.320><c> as</c><00:43:44.500><c> well</c>

00:43:44.659 --> 00:43:47.019
to<00:43:44.840><c> try</c><00:43:45.000><c> and</c><00:43:45.139><c> deal</c><00:43:45.199><c> with</c><00:43:45.320><c> some</c><00:43:45.440><c> of</c><00:43:45.539><c> the</c><00:43:45.699><c> scientific</c><00:43:46.059><c> issues.</c>

00:43:47.460 --> 00:43:49.880
And<00:43:47.860><c> being</c><00:43:48.260><c> a</c><00:43:48.420><c> website,</c><00:43:48.719><c> we</c><00:43:48.820><c> can</c><00:43:49.000><c> keep</c><00:43:49.159><c> adding</c><00:43:49.340><c> to</c><00:43:49.500><c> it</c><00:43:49.579><c> as</c><00:43:49.739><c> we</c>

00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:51.440
find<00:43:50.059><c> more</c><00:43:50.219><c> good</c><00:43:50.420><c> material.</c>

00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:54.519
But<00:43:52.360><c> that</c><00:43:52.719><c> hasn't</c><00:43:53.199><c> yet</c><00:43:53.380><c> been</c><00:43:53.659><c> publicised</c><00:43:54.059><c> at</c><00:43:54.179><c> the</c><00:43:54.320><c> Brotherhood</c>

00:43:54.519 --> 00:43:56.460
because<00:43:54.780><c> we're</c><00:43:54.940><c> still</c><00:43:55.139><c> working</c><00:43:55.460><c> on</c><00:43:55.659><c> it.</c>

00:43:56.639 --> 00:43:58.599
But<00:43:56.900><c> that's</c><00:43:57.179><c> something</c><00:43:57.400><c> that's</c><00:43:57.679><c> coming</c><00:43:57.880><c> in</c><00:43:58.119><c> the</c><00:43:58.199><c> near</c><00:43:58.340><c> future.</c>

00:43:59.099 --> 00:44:01.179
It's<00:43:59.280><c> a</c><00:43:59.280><c> site</c><00:43:59.500><c> where</c><00:43:59.659><c> the</c><00:43:59.840><c> young</c><00:43:59.980><c> person,</c><00:44:00.500><c> and</c><00:44:00.659><c> it's</c><00:44:00.860><c> designed</c>

00:44:01.179 --> 00:44:01.599
for<00:44:01.340><c> the</c><00:44:01.420><c> reason</c>

00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:04.360
that<00:44:01.760><c> the</c><00:44:01.900><c> young</c><00:44:02.039><c> person</c><00:44:02.300><c> can</c><00:44:02.480><c> go</c><00:44:02.699><c> there</c><00:44:02.900><c> and</c><00:44:03.039><c> get</c><00:44:03.219><c> the</c><00:44:03.360><c> Christadolphin</c><00:44:03.920><c> answer</c>

00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:07.079
to<00:44:05.139><c> the</c><00:44:05.320><c> queries</c><00:44:05.519><c> that</c><00:44:05.800><c> Te</c><00:44:05.940><c> have</c><00:44:06.079><c> raised.</c>

00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:11.320
So<00:44:07.739><c> who</c><00:44:07.920><c> did</c><00:44:08.119><c> Cain</c><00:44:08.340><c> marry?</c><00:44:08.619><c> You'll</c><00:44:08.699><c> get</c><00:44:08.800><c> a</c><00:44:08.880><c> Christadolphin</c><00:44:09.679><c> explanation</c><00:44:10.280><c> of</c><00:44:10.480><c> that.</c>

00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:14.820
What<00:44:12.420><c> did</c><00:44:12.579><c> Brother</c><00:44:12.760><c> Walker</c><00:44:13.039><c> mean?</c><00:44:13.480><c> There'll</c><00:44:13.519><c> be</c><00:44:13.619><c> an</c><00:44:13.820><c> explanation</c><00:44:14.239><c> of</c><00:44:14.440><c> that.</c>

00:44:14.820 --> 00:44:17.039
So<00:44:15.360><c> if</c><00:44:15.699><c> they</c><00:44:15.920><c> want</c><00:44:16.119><c> the</c><00:44:16.340><c> answer,</c><00:44:16.739><c> it'll</c><00:44:16.800><c> be</c><00:44:16.800><c> there.</c>

00:44:17.159 --> 00:44:19.099
It's<00:44:17.280><c> not</c><00:44:17.460><c> going</c><00:44:17.579><c> to</c><00:44:17.659><c> be</c><00:44:17.800><c> a</c><00:44:17.920><c> chat</c><00:44:18.079><c> room</c><00:44:18.280><c> because</c><00:44:18.840><c> the</c><00:44:18.980><c> minute</c>

00:44:19.099 --> 00:44:19.659
you<00:44:19.239><c> do</c><00:44:19.440><c> that,</c>

00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:22.260
these<00:44:19.900><c> guys</c><00:44:20.139><c> will</c><00:44:20.320><c> come</c><00:44:20.420><c> there</c><00:44:20.639><c> and</c><00:44:20.780><c> flood</c><00:44:20.900><c> it</c><00:44:21.000><c> with</c><00:44:21.119><c> their</c><00:44:21.280><c> information.</c>

00:44:22.739 --> 00:44:25.219
So<00:44:22.840><c> it's</c><00:44:23.039><c> going</c><00:44:23.139><c> to</c><00:44:23.280><c> be,</c><00:44:23.699><c> for</c><00:44:23.840><c> those</c><00:44:24.039><c> who</c><00:44:24.199><c> want</c><00:44:24.440><c> the</c><00:44:24.699><c> answer</c><00:44:24.900><c> from</c><00:44:25.139><c> a</c>

00:44:25.219 --> 00:44:26.139
Christadolphin<00:44:25.639><c> perspective,</c>

00:44:26.340 --> 00:44:28.039
that's<00:44:26.480><c> where</c><00:44:26.619><c> they'll</c><00:44:26.980><c> find</c><00:44:27.199><c> it.</c>

00:44:31.300 --> 00:44:34.480
There's<00:44:31.820><c> only</c><00:44:32.019><c> one</c><00:44:32.300><c> brother</c><00:44:32.519><c> that's</c><00:44:32.739><c> spent</c><00:44:32.900><c> 10</c><00:44:33.159><c> years</c><00:44:33.460><c> in</c><00:44:33.619><c> Taiwan,</c><00:44:34.199><c> John,</c><00:44:34.380><c> and</c>

00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:35.420
that's<00:44:34.639><c> me.</c>

00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:37.719
So<00:44:36.159><c> I'm</c><00:44:36.239><c> the</c><00:44:36.340><c> only</c><00:44:36.599><c> brother</c><00:44:36.920><c> that's...</c>

00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:41.599
We<00:44:37.960><c> have</c><00:44:38.219><c> myself</c><00:44:38.639><c> and</c><00:44:38.800><c> himself</c><00:44:39.360><c> and</c><00:44:40.300><c> many</c><00:44:40.639><c> converts.</c>

00:44:42.340 --> 00:44:44.639
I've<00:44:42.699><c> had</c><00:44:43.039><c> as</c><00:44:43.239><c> many</c><00:44:43.360><c> discussions</c><00:44:43.800><c> as</c><00:44:43.920><c> he's</c><00:44:44.159><c> willing</c><00:44:44.300><c> to</c><00:44:44.500><c> have</c>

00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:47.380
because<00:44:44.900><c> he's</c><00:44:45.039><c> not</c><00:44:45.159><c> a</c><00:44:45.300><c> person</c><00:44:45.460><c> who</c><00:44:45.599><c> speaks</c><00:44:45.940><c> to</c><00:44:46.079><c> people</c><00:44:46.360><c> easily.</c>

00:44:47.539 --> 00:44:51.739
He<00:44:47.539><c> has</c><00:44:48.239><c> good</c><00:44:48.539><c> writing</c><00:44:48.860><c> skills</c><00:44:49.199><c> but</c><00:44:49.519><c> poor</c><00:44:50.300><c> human</c><00:44:50.719><c>-to</c><00:44:50.920><c>-human</c><00:44:51.119><c> communication.</c>

00:44:51.820 --> 00:44:54.960
But<00:44:52.000><c> I</c><00:44:52.159><c> have</c><00:44:52.300><c> closely</c><00:44:52.579><c> questioned</c><00:44:52.960><c> him</c><00:44:53.579><c> over</c><00:44:53.900><c> the</c><00:44:54.099><c> years</c><00:44:54.579><c> on</c>

00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:55.739
different<00:44:55.300><c> doctrines.</c>

00:44:55.739 --> 00:44:58.960
And<00:44:55.820><c> we</c><00:44:56.039><c> came</c><00:44:56.340><c> to,</c><00:44:56.760><c> on</c><00:44:56.940><c> the</c><00:44:57.039><c> roles</c><00:44:57.179><c> of</c><00:44:57.400><c> system</c><00:44:57.639><c> exemplar,</c><00:44:58.440><c> he</c>

00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:00.980
was<00:44:59.280><c> perfectly</c><00:45:00.079><c> correct.</c>

00:45:01.099 --> 00:45:06.960
He<00:45:01.280><c> started</c><00:45:01.500><c> out</c><00:45:01.920><c> in</c><00:45:02.940><c> Taiwan</c><00:45:03.320><c> as</c><00:45:04.260><c> an</c><00:45:04.400><c> ACBM</c><00:45:05.739><c> delegate.</c>

00:45:07.179 --> 00:45:09.239
So<00:45:07.300><c> he</c><00:45:07.420><c> was</c><00:45:07.699><c> under</c><00:45:07.960><c> the</c><00:45:08.239><c> care</c><00:45:08.539><c> of</c><00:45:08.760><c> ACBM.</c>

00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:11.960
At<00:45:09.500><c> some</c><00:45:09.699><c> point,</c><00:45:10.460><c> that</c><00:45:10.619><c> stopped</c><00:45:11.079><c> because</c><00:45:11.460><c> he</c><00:45:11.599><c> stopped</c><00:45:11.760><c> being</c>

00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:12.340
a<00:45:12.059><c> missionary</c>

00:45:12.340 --> 00:45:14.099
and<00:45:12.519><c> he</c><00:45:12.619><c> started</c><00:45:12.679><c> being</c><00:45:12.900><c> an</c><00:45:13.099><c> ecclesiast.</c>

00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:18.539
So<00:45:16.000><c> when</c><00:45:16.440><c> he</c><00:45:16.579><c> came</c><00:45:16.800><c> up</c><00:45:17.059><c> with</c><00:45:17.199><c> this,</c><00:45:17.360><c> which</c><00:45:17.500><c> was</c><00:45:17.699><c> a</c><00:45:17.940><c> progressive</c><00:45:18.340><c> thing,</c>

00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:21.539
he<00:45:18.820><c> started</c><00:45:19.059><c> off</c><00:45:19.300><c> by</c><00:45:19.599><c> talking</c><00:45:20.019><c> about</c><00:45:20.440><c> people</c><00:45:20.719><c> surviving</c><00:45:21.239><c> the</c><00:45:21.320><c> flood.</c>

00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:23.980
He<00:45:21.719><c> went</c><00:45:21.880><c> from</c><00:45:22.059><c> one</c><00:45:22.280><c> logical</c><00:45:22.659><c> step</c><00:45:22.880><c> to</c><00:45:23.059><c> the</c><00:45:23.179><c> next.</c>

00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:26.619
And<00:45:24.480><c> he</c><00:45:24.559><c> was</c><00:45:24.739><c> doing</c><00:45:24.940><c> it</c><00:45:25.079><c> because</c><00:45:25.199><c> he</c><00:45:25.219><c> was</c><00:45:25.440><c> debating</c><00:45:25.760><c> on</c><00:45:25.980><c> the</c><00:45:26.159><c> forums</c><00:45:26.380><c> of</c>

00:45:26.619 --> 00:45:28.739
all<00:45:26.780><c> sorts</c><00:45:27.000><c> of</c><00:45:27.019><c> people</c><00:45:27.320><c> around</c><00:45:27.639><c> the</c><00:45:27.820><c> world.</c>

00:45:29.139 --> 00:45:31.940
And<00:45:29.239><c> his</c><00:45:29.440><c> thoughts</c><00:45:29.679><c> were</c><00:45:30.019><c> slowly</c><00:45:30.579><c> but</c><00:45:30.760><c> surely</c><00:45:31.019><c> formulated</c><00:45:31.559><c> into</c><00:45:31.880><c> a</c>

00:45:31.940 --> 00:45:33.139
cohesive<00:45:32.380><c> sort</c><00:45:32.619><c> of</c><00:45:32.820><c> doctrine,</c>

00:45:33.619 --> 00:45:36.840
which<00:45:33.780><c> is</c><00:45:34.320><c> highly</c><00:45:34.619><c> persuasive,</c><00:45:35.739><c> a</c><00:45:35.860><c> scriptural</c><00:45:36.300><c> document,</c>

00:45:37.139 --> 00:45:38.079
scriptural<00:45:37.599><c> argument,</c>

00:45:38.380 --> 00:45:40.840
which<00:45:38.519><c> is</c><00:45:38.760><c> highly</c><00:45:38.980><c> persuasive</c><00:45:39.800><c> to</c><00:45:40.059><c> those</c><00:45:40.320><c> who</c><00:45:40.539><c> don't</c><00:45:40.760><c> know</c>

00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:42.099
what<00:45:40.980><c> he's</c><00:45:41.139><c> talking</c><00:45:41.440><c> about.</c>

00:45:42.539 --> 00:45:43.519
I'm<00:45:42.760><c> sure</c><00:45:42.940><c> of</c><00:45:43.099><c> his</c><00:45:43.280><c> terms.</c>

00:45:43.780 --> 00:45:47.900
For<00:45:43.980><c> example,</c><00:45:45.019><c> for</c><00:45:45.099><c> him,</c><00:45:45.340><c> mortality</c><00:45:45.860><c> and</c><00:45:46.679><c> death</c><00:45:47.119><c> are</c><00:45:47.679><c> two</c>

00:45:47.900 --> 00:45:48.659
different<00:45:48.199><c> things.</c>

00:45:48.659 --> 00:45:50.699
But<00:45:49.699><c> no.</c>

00:45:50.860 --> 00:45:53.219
It's<00:45:51.019><c> like</c><00:45:51.199><c> J</c><00:45:51.599><c>.J.</c><00:45:52.019><c> Andrews</c><00:45:52.239><c> did</c><00:45:52.320><c> not</c><00:45:52.500><c> know</c><00:45:52.679><c> that</c><00:45:52.880><c> he</c><00:45:53.059><c> says</c>

00:45:53.219 --> 00:45:54.760
eternal<00:45:53.679><c> death.</c>

00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:58.940
He<00:45:55.659><c> means</c><00:45:56.079><c> eternal</c><00:45:56.559><c> death</c><00:45:56.920><c> and</c><00:45:57.059><c> our</c><00:45:57.199><c> potential</c><00:45:57.619><c> of</c><00:45:57.940><c> resurrection.</c>

00:45:59.219 --> 00:46:03.239
John<00:45:59.360><c> O's</c><00:45:59.619><c> definition</c><00:46:00.599><c> of</c><00:46:00.920><c> mortality</c><00:46:01.360><c> and</c><00:46:02.260><c> death</c><00:46:02.659><c> are</c><00:46:03.019><c> two</c>

00:46:03.239 --> 00:46:04.059
different<00:46:03.559><c> things.</c>

00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:06.619
You<00:46:04.360><c> need</c><00:46:04.480><c> Dr.</c><00:46:04.840><c> O</c><00:46:05.000><c> because</c><00:46:05.460><c> you</c><00:46:05.659><c> can't</c><00:46:05.900><c> talk</c><00:46:06.099><c> to</c><00:46:06.179><c> him.</c>

00:46:06.940 --> 00:46:08.980
He<00:46:07.099><c> used</c><00:46:07.219><c> his</c><00:46:07.500><c> terms</c><00:46:07.659><c> and</c><00:46:07.840><c> his</c><00:46:08.019><c> definitions.</c>

00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:12.559
Now<00:46:10.599><c> he's</c><00:46:10.820><c> at</c><00:46:10.820><c> least</c><00:46:11.119><c> over</c><00:46:11.340><c> this</c><00:46:11.500><c> time</c><00:46:11.699><c> become</c><00:46:11.900><c> consistent</c><00:46:12.400><c> on</c>

00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:13.119
his<00:46:12.780><c> definitions.</c>

00:46:13.219 --> 00:46:14.940
He's<00:46:13.300><c> going</c><00:46:13.420><c> to</c><00:46:13.440><c> try</c><00:46:13.579><c> and</c><00:46:13.739><c> help</c><00:46:14.079><c> brothers</c><00:46:14.380><c> and</c><00:46:14.519><c> sisters</c><00:46:14.659><c> to</c>

00:46:14.940 --> 00:46:17.539
understand<00:46:15.460><c> what</c><00:46:15.880><c> his</c><00:46:16.139><c> definitions</c><00:46:16.539><c> are.</c>

00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:21.179
And<00:46:18.800><c> it's</c><00:46:19.159><c> the</c><00:46:19.280><c> same</c><00:46:19.420><c> way</c><00:46:19.579><c> as</c><00:46:19.679><c> I</c><00:46:19.820><c> recommend</c><00:46:20.179><c> that</c><00:46:20.420><c> anybody</c><00:46:20.719><c> wants</c><00:46:21.019><c> to</c>

00:46:21.179 --> 00:46:23.519
deal<00:46:21.360><c> with</c><00:46:21.800><c> the</c><00:46:22.980><c> Andrewism.</c>

00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:25.119
You<00:46:23.739><c> need</c><00:46:23.880><c> to</c><00:46:23.920><c> know</c><00:46:24.039><c> Andrew's</c><00:46:24.579><c> definitions.</c>

00:46:25.300 --> 00:46:27.440
Otherwise,<00:46:25.699><c> you</c><00:46:25.820><c> won't</c><00:46:26.000><c> know</c><00:46:26.139><c> what</c><00:46:26.320><c> you're</c><00:46:26.500><c> dealing</c><00:46:26.659><c> with.</c>

00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:32.539
So<00:46:28.079><c> sooner</c><00:46:28.380><c> or</c><00:46:28.519><c> later,</c><00:46:28.960><c> our</c><00:46:29.000><c> body</c><00:46:29.179><c> has</c><00:46:29.360><c> to</c><00:46:29.539><c> become</c><00:46:29.780><c> aware</c><00:46:29.980><c> of</c><00:46:30.159><c> this</c><00:46:30.280><c> because</c><00:46:30.619><c> it's</c><00:46:30.860><c> most</c><00:46:31.019><c> certainly</c><00:46:31.460><c> a</c>

00:46:32.539 --> 00:46:33.519
99<00:46:32.900><c>%</c><00:46:33.300><c> chance</c>

00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:35.460
we<00:46:33.659><c> have</c><00:46:33.739><c> a</c><00:46:33.840><c> new</c><00:46:34.019><c> fellowship</c><00:46:34.340><c> forming</c><00:46:34.639><c> right</c><00:46:34.940><c> now.</c>

00:46:35.539 --> 00:46:37.559
And<00:46:35.699><c> that's</c><00:46:36.400><c> just</c><00:46:36.679><c> the</c><00:46:36.820><c> facts.</c>

00:46:38.300 --> 00:46:41.219
So<00:46:38.519><c> we</c><00:46:38.659><c> need</c><00:46:38.800><c> to</c><00:46:38.920><c> deal</c><00:46:39.079><c> with</c><00:46:39.239><c> that</c><00:46:39.400><c> and</c><00:46:39.559><c> understand</c><00:46:39.920><c> what</c><00:46:40.099><c> that</c><00:46:40.340><c> means.</c>

00:46:42.219 --> 00:46:51.260
My<00:46:42.659><c> concern</c><00:46:43.099><c> is</c><00:46:48.320><c> that</c><00:46:49.179><c> I</c><00:46:49.800><c> didn't</c><00:46:50.000><c> know</c><00:46:50.139><c> anything</c><00:46:50.320><c> about</c><00:46:50.619><c> this</c>

00:46:51.260 --> 00:46:52.179
six<00:46:51.579><c> months</c><00:46:51.820><c> ago.</c>

00:46:52.460 --> 00:46:53.780
I<00:46:52.460><c> don't</c><00:46:52.619><c> know</c><00:46:52.719><c> anything</c><00:46:52.860><c> about</c><00:46:53.000><c> it.</c>

00:46:54.219 --> 00:46:55.079
And<00:46:54.280><c> maybe</c><00:46:54.440><c> that's</c><00:46:54.639><c> a</c><00:46:54.760><c> good</c><00:46:54.920><c> thing.</c>

00:46:55.139 --> 00:46:57.719
Maybe<00:46:55.360><c> it's</c><00:46:55.579><c> a</c><00:46:55.679><c> good</c><00:46:55.820><c> thing</c><00:46:56.019><c> and</c><00:46:56.199><c> there's</c><00:46:56.360><c> probably</c><00:46:56.639><c> many</c><00:46:56.920><c> people</c><00:46:57.239><c> like</c><00:46:57.519><c> me</c>

00:46:57.719 --> 00:46:59.960
who<00:46:58.039><c> are</c><00:46:58.500><c> not</c><00:46:58.800><c> aware</c><00:46:59.019><c> of</c><00:46:59.199><c> this.</c>

00:47:00.579 --> 00:47:01.599
And<00:47:01.019><c> that's</c><00:47:01.280><c> okay.</c>

00:47:01.780 --> 00:47:04.900
But<00:47:01.860><c> the</c><00:47:01.960><c> problem</c><00:47:02.159><c> is</c><00:47:02.380><c> if</c><00:47:02.760><c> you're</c><00:47:02.900><c> not</c><00:47:03.119><c> aware</c><00:47:03.360><c> of</c><00:47:03.559><c> it</c><00:47:04.239><c> and</c><00:47:04.539><c> there's</c><00:47:04.719><c> the</c>

00:47:04.900 --> 00:47:08.039
risk<00:47:05.179><c> of</c><00:47:06.099><c> people</c><00:47:06.340><c> in</c><00:47:06.460><c> your</c><00:47:06.679><c> profession</c><00:47:07.059><c> that</c><00:47:07.300><c> are</c><00:47:07.679><c> engaging</c>

00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:08.460
in<00:47:08.260><c> it</c>

00:47:08.460 --> 00:47:14.000
and<00:47:08.539><c> because</c><00:47:08.820><c> you're</c><00:47:09.079><c> not</c><00:47:09.179><c> aware</c><00:47:09.400><c> of</c><00:47:09.559><c> it,</c><00:47:10.420><c> you</c><00:47:10.480><c> have</c><00:47:10.679><c> no</c><00:47:10.800><c> way</c><00:47:11.000><c> to</c><00:47:12.260><c> ask</c><00:47:12.579><c> questions</c><00:47:13.039><c> or</c><00:47:13.599><c> build</c><00:47:13.820><c> a</c>

00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:14.860
dialogue<00:47:14.239><c> around</c><00:47:14.519><c> it.</c>

00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:18.920
But<00:47:15.159><c> it</c><00:47:15.460><c> concerned</c><00:47:15.639><c> me</c><00:47:15.880><c> when</c><00:47:16.760><c> James</c><00:47:17.099><c> said</c><00:47:17.340><c> yesterday</c><00:47:17.920><c> that</c><00:47:18.659><c> in</c>

00:47:18.920 --> 00:47:22.719
dialogue<00:47:19.260><c> with</c><00:47:19.619><c> Jono,</c><00:47:20.739><c> he</c><00:47:20.960><c> says</c><00:47:21.239><c> he's</c><00:47:21.639><c> got</c><00:47:21.760><c> a</c><00:47:22.039><c> shock</c><00:47:22.260><c> coming.</c>

00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:25.079
Most<00:47:23.440><c> of</c><00:47:23.579><c> it</c><00:47:23.659><c> is</c><00:47:23.780><c> in</c><00:47:23.920><c> North</c><00:47:24.059><c> America.</c>

00:47:25.179 --> 00:47:28.199
But<00:47:25.320><c> he</c><00:47:25.539><c> said</c><00:47:25.539><c> that</c><00:47:25.719><c> he</c><00:47:26.599><c> has</c><00:47:26.780><c> been</c><00:47:27.119><c> invited</c><00:47:27.380><c> to</c><00:47:27.679><c> Bible</c><00:47:27.900><c> schools</c>

00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:29.059
in<00:47:28.559><c> Texas.</c>

00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:30.840
I<00:47:29.380><c> don't</c><00:47:29.480><c> know</c><00:47:29.659><c> nothing</c><00:47:29.780><c> about</c><00:47:30.099><c> it.</c>

00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:35.659
And<00:47:31.099><c> that</c><00:47:31.400><c> there's</c><00:47:32.239><c> a</c><00:47:32.380><c> large</c><00:47:32.679><c> group</c><00:47:32.960><c> of</c><00:47:33.199><c> people</c><00:47:33.500><c> in</c><00:47:33.820><c> North</c><00:47:34.119><c> America</c><00:47:34.820><c> who</c>

00:47:35.659 --> 00:47:38.219
are<00:47:35.940><c> taking</c><00:47:36.239><c> on</c><00:47:36.619><c> board</c><00:47:37.059><c> his</c><00:47:37.440><c> understanding</c>

00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:43.699
of<00:47:39.119><c> our</c><00:47:39.639><c> statement</c><00:47:39.960><c> of</c><00:47:40.280><c> faith</c><00:47:40.579><c> and</c><00:47:41.239><c> adoptively</c><00:47:41.719><c> embracing</c><00:47:42.500><c> these</c><00:47:43.219><c> things</c><00:47:43.500><c> in</c>

00:47:43.699 --> 00:47:44.480
a<00:47:43.760><c> positive</c><00:47:44.199><c> way.</c>

00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:48.980
He<00:47:44.679><c> believes</c><00:47:45.019><c> North</c><00:47:45.320><c> America</c><00:47:46.039><c> will</c><00:47:46.480><c> become</c><00:47:46.920><c> the</c><00:47:48.119><c> –</c><00:47:48.539><c> a</c><00:47:48.820><c> new</c>

00:47:48.980 --> 00:47:51.519
fellowship<00:47:49.300><c> will</c><00:47:49.579><c> form</c><00:47:49.739><c> in</c><00:47:49.920><c> North</c><00:47:50.179><c> America,</c><00:47:50.800><c> the</c><00:47:50.880><c> Enlightened</c><00:47:51.199><c> Brothers</c>

00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:52.800
and<00:47:51.820><c> Sisters.</c>

00:47:53.500 --> 00:47:54.739
And<00:47:53.599><c> that's</c><00:47:53.920><c> what</c><00:47:54.019><c> it</c><00:47:54.179><c> doesn't</c><00:47:54.440><c> mean.</c>

00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:58.139
What<00:47:55.380><c> he</c><00:47:55.500><c> wants</c><00:47:55.719><c> to</c><00:47:55.920><c> do</c><00:47:56.039><c> is</c><00:47:56.300><c> convert</c><00:47:56.920><c> our</c><00:47:57.300><c> fellowship.</c>

00:47:58.239 --> 00:48:00.659
His<00:47:58.340><c> objective</c><00:47:58.840><c> is</c><00:47:59.139><c> not</c><00:47:59.500><c> to</c><00:47:59.840><c> form</c><00:47:59.980><c> a</c><00:48:00.099><c> new</c><00:48:00.280><c> fellowship.</c>

00:48:00.900 --> 00:48:02.739
He<00:48:01.079><c> wants</c><00:48:01.360><c> to</c><00:48:01.639><c> convert</c><00:48:02.059><c> our</c><00:48:02.360><c> fellowship.</c>

00:48:02.739 --> 00:48:05.900
What's<00:48:03.300><c> going</c><00:48:03.400><c> to</c><00:48:03.400><c> end</c><00:48:03.579><c> up</c><00:48:03.719><c> with</c><00:48:03.900><c> will</c><00:48:04.079><c> be</c><00:48:04.460><c> a</c><00:48:04.940><c> wonderful</c><00:48:05.280><c> fellowship</c><00:48:05.679><c> in</c>

00:48:05.900 --> 00:48:06.840
North<00:48:06.099><c> America</c>

00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:10.900
of<00:48:07.539><c> Enlightened</c><00:48:08.039><c> Brothers</c><00:48:08.380><c> and</c><00:48:08.699><c> Sisters</c><00:48:08.920><c> who</c><00:48:09.360><c> share</c><00:48:09.539><c> his</c><00:48:09.719><c> perspective.</c>

00:48:11.300 --> 00:48:14.440
And<00:48:11.300><c> elsewhere</c><00:48:11.780><c> in</c><00:48:12.099><c> the</c><00:48:12.099><c> world</c><00:48:12.199><c> there</c><00:48:12.320><c> will</c><00:48:12.519><c> be</c><00:48:12.760><c> unenlightened</c><00:48:13.400><c> brethren</c><00:48:13.760><c> who</c>

00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:15.699
are<00:48:15.019><c> separatists.</c>

00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:17.559
That's<00:48:16.199><c> how</c><00:48:16.199><c> he</c><00:48:16.420><c> sees</c><00:48:16.619><c> it.</c>

00:48:18.039 --> 00:48:19.539
Wrong<00:48:18.480><c> thinking,</c><00:48:18.940><c> that's</c><00:48:19.199><c> how</c><00:48:19.340><c> he</c><00:48:19.340><c> sees</c><00:48:19.380><c> it.</c>

00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:21.960
But<00:48:19.760><c> we</c><00:48:19.900><c> don't</c><00:48:20.059><c> want</c><00:48:20.219><c> to</c><00:48:20.340><c> find</c><00:48:20.559><c> out</c><00:48:20.900><c> about</c><00:48:21.179><c> these</c><00:48:21.579><c> brethren</c>

00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:24.320
that<00:48:22.320><c> have</c><00:48:22.460><c> been</c><00:48:22.639><c> engaged</c><00:48:23.039><c> for</c><00:48:23.280><c> years.</c>

00:48:24.739 --> 00:48:27.079
When<00:48:24.820><c> we</c><00:48:25.000><c> find</c><00:48:25.219><c> out</c><00:48:25.400><c> that</c><00:48:25.480><c> there's</c><00:48:25.579><c> a</c><00:48:25.719><c> new</c><00:48:25.900><c> fellowship</c><00:48:26.260><c> forming,</c><00:48:26.739><c> that's</c>

00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:28.159
what's<00:48:27.300><c> going</c><00:48:27.420><c> to</c><00:48:27.559><c> happen.</c>

00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:28.940
Precisely<00:48:28.760><c> wrong.</c>

00:48:28.940 --> 00:48:34.519
That's<00:48:29.260><c> why</c><00:48:29.739><c> we're</c><00:48:33.320><c> so</c><00:48:33.539><c> grateful</c><00:48:33.980><c> for</c><00:48:34.219><c> this.</c>

00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:36.420
Do<00:48:34.760><c> I</c><00:48:34.900><c> enlighten</c><00:48:35.280><c> our</c><00:48:35.440><c> young</c><00:48:35.639><c> people?</c>

00:48:37.219 --> 00:48:40.679
Well,<00:48:38.059><c> I</c><00:48:38.239><c> can</c><00:48:38.380><c> only</c><00:48:38.539><c> say</c><00:48:38.719><c> we</c><00:48:39.019><c> got</c><00:48:39.539><c> some</c><00:48:39.780><c> awful</c><00:48:40.059><c> shocks</c><00:48:40.360><c> when</c><00:48:40.519><c> we</c>

00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:43.159
find<00:48:40.860><c> that</c><00:48:41.039><c> one</c><00:48:41.119><c> of</c><00:48:41.239><c> our</c><00:48:41.440><c> own</c><00:48:42.260><c> conservative,</c>

00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:47.179
arranging<00:48:43.760><c> brethren</c><00:48:44.199><c> in</c><00:48:45.239><c> a</c><00:48:45.300><c> conservative</c><00:48:45.780><c> Ecclesia</c><00:48:46.179><c> is</c><00:48:46.559><c> a</c><00:48:46.800><c> promoter</c>

00:48:47.179 --> 00:48:48.920
and<00:48:47.320><c> had</c><00:48:47.400><c> been</c><00:48:47.559><c> promoting</c><00:48:47.840><c> it</c><00:48:48.059><c> for</c><00:48:48.219><c> over</c><00:48:48.420><c> a</c><00:48:48.519><c> couple</c><00:48:48.639><c> of</c><00:48:48.820><c> years</c>

00:48:48.920 --> 00:48:51.500
on<00:48:49.079><c> a</c><00:48:49.179><c> website</c><00:48:49.639><c> under</c><00:48:50.460><c> a</c><00:48:50.619><c> pseudonym.</c>

00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:54.599
You<00:48:51.940><c> know,</c><00:48:51.940><c> we</c><00:48:52.099><c> got</c><00:48:52.179><c> an</c><00:48:52.360><c> awful</c><00:48:52.539><c> shock</c><00:48:52.820><c> because</c><00:48:53.179><c> you</c><00:48:53.360><c> don't</c><00:48:53.539><c> realise</c><00:48:53.800><c> it's</c><00:48:54.039><c> right</c><00:48:54.320><c> in</c>

00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:55.619
your<00:48:54.739><c> midst.</c>

00:48:56.300 --> 00:48:58.920
He<00:48:56.739><c> used</c><00:48:57.179><c> to</c><00:48:57.260><c> go</c><00:48:57.400><c> to</c><00:48:57.460><c> people's</c><00:48:57.860><c> homes</c><00:48:58.099><c> and</c><00:48:58.219><c> he</c><00:48:58.340><c> would</c><00:48:58.639><c> start</c>

00:48:58.920 --> 00:49:00.699
the<00:48:59.199><c> discussion</c><00:48:59.699><c> around,</c>

00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:01.960
you<00:49:00.719><c> know,</c><00:49:00.900><c> what</c><00:49:00.940><c> do</c><00:49:01.079><c> you</c><00:49:01.119><c> think</c><00:49:01.280><c> about</c><00:49:01.519><c> this</c><00:49:01.719><c> and</c><00:49:01.780><c> what</c><00:49:01.880><c> do</c>

00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:02.280
you<00:49:02.000><c> think</c><00:49:02.079><c> about</c><00:49:02.199><c> that?</c>

00:49:02.340 --> 00:49:05.760
He<00:49:02.340><c> would</c><00:49:02.559><c> throw</c><00:49:02.760><c> these</c><00:49:02.980><c> ideas</c><00:49:03.340><c> out</c><00:49:03.940><c> to</c><00:49:04.219><c> see</c><00:49:04.340><c> if</c><00:49:04.380><c> he</c><00:49:04.519><c> got</c><00:49:04.699><c> an</c><00:49:04.880><c> interest.</c>

00:49:06.300 --> 00:49:08.360
And<00:49:06.380><c> our</c><00:49:06.639><c> recording</c><00:49:07.000><c> brother,</c><00:49:07.300><c> who's</c><00:49:07.539><c> a</c><00:49:07.780><c> close</c><00:49:07.940><c> friend</c><00:49:08.179><c> of</c>

00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:09.619
Daniel<00:49:08.599><c> Edgecombe's,</c>

00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:12.880
said<00:49:10.179><c> that</c><00:49:10.340><c> he</c><00:49:10.380><c> now</c><00:49:10.619><c> realises</c><00:49:11.079><c> that</c><00:49:11.579><c> when</c><00:49:11.860><c> every</c><00:49:12.039><c> time</c><00:49:12.199><c> Daniel</c><00:49:12.460><c> came,</c>

00:49:13.019 --> 00:49:15.420
the<00:49:13.099><c> discussion</c><00:49:13.519><c> went</c><00:49:13.840><c> to</c><00:49:14.300><c> discussing</c><00:49:14.800><c> things</c><00:49:15.139><c> like</c>

00:49:15.420 --> 00:49:16.639
theistic<00:49:15.699><c> evolution.</c>

00:49:16.820 --> 00:49:19.360
And<00:49:17.079><c> he</c><00:49:17.659><c> now</c><00:49:17.840><c> knows</c><00:49:18.039><c> why</c><00:49:18.340><c> that</c><00:49:18.559><c> happened</c><00:49:18.719><c> because</c><00:49:18.940><c> Daniel</c><00:49:19.199><c> was</c>

00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:20.300
trying<00:49:19.559><c> to</c><00:49:19.619><c> get</c><00:49:19.739><c> him</c><00:49:19.900><c> in.</c>

00:49:20.300 --> 00:49:24.039
So<00:49:20.659><c> they</c><00:49:21.719><c> are</c><00:49:21.719><c> wolves</c><00:49:21.840><c> inside</c><00:49:22.219><c> the</c><00:49:22.420><c> flock</c><00:49:22.619><c> and</c><00:49:23.500><c> that's</c><00:49:23.840><c> why</c>

00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:26.460
Paul<00:49:24.239><c> warned</c><00:49:24.519><c> about</c><00:49:24.880><c> looking</c><00:49:25.239><c> out</c><00:49:25.420><c> for</c><00:49:25.500><c> the</c><00:49:25.659><c> wolf.</c>

00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:41.300
Okay.

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Yeah,<00:49:41.980><c> but</c><00:49:41.980><c> don't</c><00:49:42.860><c> get</c><00:49:43.000><c> it</c><00:49:43.179><c> wrong,</c><00:49:43.340><c> they</c><00:49:43.460><c> are</c><00:49:43.619><c> very</c><00:49:43.860><c> good</c><00:49:44.059><c> Bible</c><00:49:44.260><c> students</c><00:49:44.619><c> as</c><00:49:44.840><c> well.</c>

00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:48.039
They<00:49:45.539><c> have</c><00:49:46.380><c> debated</c><00:49:46.639><c> every</c><00:49:46.940><c> issue</c><00:49:47.159><c> you</c><00:49:47.320><c> like</c><00:49:47.500><c> under</c><00:49:47.719><c> the</c><00:49:47.920><c> sun</c>

00:49:48.039 --> 00:49:49.599
and<00:49:48.139><c> they</c><00:49:48.320><c> are</c><00:49:48.539><c> very</c><00:49:48.820><c> clever</c><00:49:49.019><c> Bible</c><00:49:49.340><c> students.</c>

00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:52.260
And<00:49:49.780><c> as</c><00:49:49.880><c> I</c><00:49:49.940><c> said,</c><00:49:50.059><c> with</c><00:49:50.239><c> the</c><00:49:50.440><c> antilogia,</c><00:49:51.380><c> they</c><00:49:51.539><c> can</c><00:49:51.760><c> use</c><00:49:52.039><c> your</c>

00:49:52.260 --> 00:49:55.219
Bible<00:49:53.159><c> methodology</c><00:49:53.900><c> against</c><00:49:54.320><c> you.</c>

00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:57.780
So<00:49:55.739><c> you</c><00:49:55.860><c> are</c><00:49:55.860><c> dealing</c><00:49:56.059><c> with</c><00:49:56.300><c> very,</c><00:49:56.579><c> very</c><00:49:56.800><c> clever</c><00:49:56.960><c> people</c><00:49:57.420><c> and</c>

00:49:57.780 --> 00:50:01.400
don't<00:49:58.000><c> ever</c><00:49:58.300><c> underrate</c><00:49:58.579><c> them</c><00:49:59.019><c> because</c><00:50:00.019><c> they</c><00:50:00.440><c> are</c><00:50:00.480><c> no</c><00:50:00.760><c> fools.</c>

00:50:19.780 --> 00:50:24.559
But<00:50:20.300><c> if</c><00:50:20.440><c> you</c><00:50:20.559><c> don't</c><00:50:20.760><c> get</c><00:50:20.920><c> the</c><00:50:21.159><c> error,</c><00:50:21.960><c> at</c><00:50:22.219><c> the</c><00:50:22.500><c> premise,</c><00:50:24.039><c> it</c><00:50:24.179><c> sucked</c><00:50:24.360><c> in</c>

00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:28.360
a<00:50:24.659><c> whole</c><00:50:24.800><c> community</c><00:50:25.239><c> and</c><00:50:25.500><c> it</c><00:50:25.739><c> found</c><00:50:25.960><c> root</c><00:50:26.300><c> in</c><00:50:27.019><c> North</c><00:50:27.280><c> America.</c>

00:50:28.739 --> 00:50:31.679
Because<00:50:28.820><c> North</c><00:50:29.079><c> America</c><00:50:29.639><c> is</c><00:50:29.960><c> a</c><00:50:30.119><c> country</c><00:50:30.460><c> which</c><00:50:31.139><c> these</c><00:50:31.500><c> types</c>

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of<00:50:31.840><c> things</c><00:50:32.059><c> find</c><00:50:32.340><c> root</c><00:50:32.599><c> in.</c>

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It<00:50:33.219><c> dwindled</c><00:50:33.599><c> elsewhere</c><00:50:33.940><c> in</c><00:50:34.119><c> the</c><00:50:34.219><c> world</c><00:50:34.360><c> and</c><00:50:34.619><c> continued</c><00:50:35.019><c> in</c>

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North<00:50:35.380><c> America.</c>

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So<00:50:37.260><c> the</c><00:50:37.280><c> same</c><00:50:37.300><c> thing</c><00:50:37.440><c> is</c><00:50:37.539><c> happening</c><00:50:37.719><c> here.</c>

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Thank<00:50:41.739><c> you</c><00:50:42.260><c> very</c><00:50:43.619><c> much.</c>

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So<00:50:44.960><c> we</c><00:50:45.159><c> will</c><00:50:45.739><c> bring</c><00:50:46.400><c> our</c><00:50:46.940><c> morning</c><00:50:47.320><c> sessions</c><00:50:47.679><c> to</c><00:50:48.000><c> a</c><00:50:48.099><c> close</c><00:50:48.420><c> end</c>

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with<00:50:48.940><c> singing</c><00:50:49.239><c> of</c><00:50:49.539><c> hymn</c><00:50:49.739><c> number</c><00:50:50.219><c> 310.</c>