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good morning

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good morning good morning

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everybody's

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looking

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brighter and bushier this morning not

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too many droopy eyelids that's good

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everyone went to bed last night

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excellent

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okay

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we're going to uh

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hopefully answer all the questions

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you've given me

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hmm

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not too many maybe we have a contest see

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if you get more than the adults they

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didn't have any either to start with but

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i've got one since then so

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if you have any questions put them in

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here and we'll deal with them because

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what we want to look at is more

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practically how

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this serpent

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relates to us we've um

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let's just do a little summary in terms

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of what we've seen

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and i'm going to do a little intro for

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you on this next subject but ultimately

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what we want to get to is talking about

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practical issues around the serpent so

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it's best if you can ask some questions

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and we can look at different problems

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and issues in life

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so to begin with

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as an overview

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we're looking at the serpent from

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genesis to revelation

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and that really is a discussion of the

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enemies of god

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we want to know who they are

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and what we've suggested to you is

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number one enemy

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is sin

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and we want that to be clear in all your

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minds if you look at the bible and you

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read the references

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there you're going to find it real clear

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it's sin what's sin

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anyone give me a definition it's

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probably a few

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disobedience of god's law that's a very

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good definition of sin you can disobey

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in action in your mind or in word

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is simply an action of disobeying

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sin that first sin had a very big impact

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upon the earth we tried to indicate that

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to you the first sin had profound

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effects

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such that their eyes were opened they

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knew that they were naked and there was

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fear things had changed and now sin has

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been showing itself in various forms for

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example the flesh we have

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what we call human nature

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to deal with but also we make a choice

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if we become committed to god

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we choose to be his children

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if we're not

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we are naturally children of the serpent

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of the devil of satan there's only two

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choices here so

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we then move on and we can look at

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special cases of this like leaders

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and nations and religion and philosophy

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all of the

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things which almost leave just the

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serpent language and they turn into

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absolute monsters

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and the bible talks about monsters

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and so when you leave an individual and

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you put a group of people together set

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for a purpose against god

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in bible terms they're a monster and

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we'll see that later

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and ultimately all of this leads to

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the same time we're doing this we're

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looking at the solution how do we deal

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with the enemy within

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our lusts

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our pride how do we deal with the

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influences without

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we have suggested the first step is to

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turn to god

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with god all things are possible

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something that seems impossible to us

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probably is

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but with god it's possible that's what

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jesus has said to us and the bible's all

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about those possibilities

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you look at characters that did things

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and had faith and belief that

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wouldn't have seemed possible and it

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wasn't

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on their own but with the strength of

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god and then yesterday we looked at how

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christ is the example for us and the

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ultimate example of is christ upon the

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pole he's that serpent and what did he

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do to the flesh he crucified the flesh

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because our flesh now has a tendency to

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do the wrong thing so we have got to

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continue it

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we've got to work on it

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we have him as the model

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to try to do that we know we're going to

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and so fortunately when we are baptized

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and in christ there's a covering

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sin is dealt with it's not the ruler in

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us even though it might win a few of the

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battles it's not going to win the war

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because we've got christ on our side

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and so we have forgiveness

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okay any questions on that summary

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in terms of where we've come to this

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we're going to go on and deal with this

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next subject

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and

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then what i'm hoping to do is get a list

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of issues and problems as it relates to

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our lusts and our pride and the problems

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of this life and the influences we put

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them up on the the board here and then

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we can start working our way through

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this

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is a picture

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if we just have the lights off for a

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moment thank you

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of a snake

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eating an egg

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and it's very true whoa don't make it

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that dark back there they all go to

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thank you

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um

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it's true that

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snakes can make pigs of themselves

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it's um rather uh

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interesting that they can take in up to

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one and a half times their weight

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so that would be like a 200 pound man

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eating a 300 pound steak

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that's like eating a whole cow

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now that's

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that's incredible god has made these

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snakes in an amazing way part of the

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characteristic of the snake is that why

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we can only open our mouths to 30

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degrees they can open their mouths to

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and their jaws aren't attached so you

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can see how this guy you know obviously

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had to get it up here and then it got

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through into his throat and it would

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just move on the way through his belly

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discovery magazine documented a very

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interesting event wherein a 14 year old

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indonesian boy was actually swallowed by

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a reticulated python

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and you could see the shape of the boy

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in the python's belly and two days later

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they actually killed the python and took

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the boy out

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snakes do swallow people from time to

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time they tend to pick on babies or

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people that are smaller but this was a a

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case where they actually were able to

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handle a 14 year old boy

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pretty ugly thought actually when you

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when you think about it but the bible

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describes something that's much uglier

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than that

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nations and leaders

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take advantage of other people

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or when we do the same to one another

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now we know in genesis

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that the bel uh that the serpent was

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sentenced what were some of the things

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that were said to the serpent

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that's the one i wanted so we can move

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on with that it had to go upon its belly

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okay now what the serpent did in the

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beginning was it spoke according to its

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belly it's just an animal it spoke

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according to its instincts or its

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appetite so what came naturally to it

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and so god said okay

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no longer is the serpent thinking which

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dictated that first scenario that

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brought things brought this mess

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into the world we're going to put that

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snake on the ground

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i'm going to show you from that where

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the belly belongs

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and that's god's message to us to say

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that's where our lusts

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our desires

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our belly belongs on the ground and so

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the law said whatsoever goeth upon the

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belly then ye shall not eat for they are

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an abomination

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actually one i had an opportunity to eat

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some snake once

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it wasn't really that bad

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although mine joined it once so it must

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have been that good it was at manitoulin

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island and um

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an australian was over and we're having

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a special barbecue so he was barbecuing

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snakes and feeding it out to everyone

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and it was sort of a little bit like a

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little bit like chicken so it wasn't

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wasn't that bad

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but in the law they were not to eat it

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because it was an animal that went upon

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and it's an unclean animal

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and upon its belly

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it will go

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i'm going to give you

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some examples

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of of this let's turn to philippians

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chapter 3.

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there's a number of examples in the

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scripture i'm just going to give you two

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of them

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in the new testament

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return to philippians chapter 3

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and i'll throw it up on the overhead

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in verse 1 they were told to beware of

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dogs beware of evil workers beware of

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the concision so this was an external

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threat

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to the first century ecclesia that was

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people that came to them and were very

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divisive by

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the messages that they were giving to

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the ecclesia but look at the language

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many walk verse 17

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of whom i have told you often and now

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tell you even weeping that they are the

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enemies

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of the cross of christ now we talked

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about the cross of christ

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it's the pole and the serpent upon it

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crucifying the flesh

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this didn't just say enemies of christ

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did it

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they said in enemies of the cross of

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christ because what the cross of christ

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represented was a putting to death of

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the flesh

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the lusts the belly

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but guess what

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these people that are being talked about

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here

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they were the ones who were feeding

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their bellies they were ruled by their

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lusts so they were enemies of the cross

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of christ and its message

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whose end is destruction and we know

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that from genesis 3 15 the serpent will

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ultimately be destroyed

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whose god is

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their belly

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so

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they worship their belly these people

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that is they worship that which comes

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natural to them their lusts their

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desires their appetites

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whose glory is in their shame

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they remember that when adam and eve

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sinned what was something that happened

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to them they experienced shame

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who mind earthly things that's where

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their mind is on earthly things just

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like eve when oh this would be good for

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food

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okay

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an earthly mindset so you can see how

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this language is drawn from the garden

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and that there's a real lesson here not

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to have the belly as our god

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now

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we have lusts we have desires we have

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appetites give me some examples of those

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ones which are okay

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are there any appetites which are

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acceptable before god

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what would they be

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hunger that's the most fundamental one

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is

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we have a lust a craving a desire an

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appetite for food

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is that wrong

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don't be shy

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no

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okay

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uh when can it be wrong

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this lust

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for food this desire or appetite for

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food is it ever wrong

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right in the bible gluttony is a sin

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and we might say okay

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that's a person who doesn't seem to

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really have control

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over

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eating they just eat a lot they gorge

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themselves let me talk about you know

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these snakes eating a lot that's the

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whole idea here a person just feeds a

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lot a lot of food and

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hence we have the problem in our world

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of obesity

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gluttony is a sin and we need to control

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our eating habits so when we're eating

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we say to ourselves okay

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i'm hungry

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but

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i should probably eat healthy food

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right and i probably should not eat

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excessively

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those are sort of two guiding principles

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but if we just say i'm hungry

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i'm famished i'm going to eat what i

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want to feed my lusts and desires and we

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don't

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you know give any heating to health we

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don't give any

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thought to the amount we're eating then

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we could become gluttonous

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and in a sense we've put the belly in a

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position of ruling ourselves

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make sense

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someone said not really

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who is that

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why not really what's the problem with

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that

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yes

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true

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anyone want to help us with this

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we're trying to look at this appetite

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and say where is the line how when is an

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appetite wrong and when is it right

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there are some appetites which are wrong

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period we might have it we'll talk about

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those but you can't satisfy them at all

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this is an appetite which obviously is

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good god has given it to us it's natural

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to us but it can become

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an evil thing what's gluttony to you

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okay well that's what was described a

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little earlier it's when you eat

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excessively okay so if you just you know

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are eating a lot

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and gorging yourself then that's that's

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gotten in and we have a danger of that

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in this society because there's so much

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food and so much abundance in some

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societies they have so very little but

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we have a lot

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and so it's possible that we can gorge

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ourselves and some people do it as a

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reaction and they have a certain

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feelings and and

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they satisfy themselves or escape their

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problems by just going away and eating

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or binging

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okay so

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um it is a problem and

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it does illustrate to us that there's

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got to be

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the thinking mind at work here gotta say

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look i gotta you know um eat healthily

401
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it's not like you bring out your plan

402
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and so i gotta have x numbers of iron

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and the dot i don't expect y'all to

404
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start carrying around your charts to

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figure that out with all your meals but

406
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there's a principle here to eat

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healthily and to eat the amount the

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right amount and if we don't do that

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then what we have is

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this

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god

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ruling us

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okay what other appetites are there

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okay companionship there's the app

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there's the uh appetite for

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you know

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social

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interaction

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and some people need more of that than

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others and

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that's not a bad

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appetite to have

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it's good to have that interaction to

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satisfy that and in some cases where

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people have ignored that you know bad

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things have happened to them they're the

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kind of people that get very very

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depressed

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and they react in certain ways that

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really causes harm to them because they

431
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haven't got that friendship in that

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companionship

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different people need different amounts

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of that and it's not bad in itself the

435
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bible speaks of that

436
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companionship

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it can also become a yes right

438
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you want to explain that

439
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um

440
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okay that's a good point now

441
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companionship or the social aspect of it

442
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can be something you find satisfaction

443
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with from a partner from family or

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others

445
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and i think your point's well taken that

446
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again when that's the guiding principle

447
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you just are ruled by that

448
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and we can be ruled by it in this world

449
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there are so many social opportunities

450
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there are so many activities in this

451
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life and we get so wrapped up in each

452
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other and all of the parties and all of

453
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the events

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that what's ruling it's really our belly

455
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we're trying to satisfy our appetite we

456
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got to get together with our buddies and

457
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their friends or we got to go out with

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the

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family and bowl the next day we got to

460
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be doing this and that another thing

461
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you're just always satisfying that and

462
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god

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does not find

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the proper place in our lives so that's

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a good one

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another one

467
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okay there's the sexual appetite

468
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now this is a very powerful appetite

469
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and it's a good one to talk about

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because

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it's a very good example of one that has

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to be controlled

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you cannot allow your sexual appetite to

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rule you

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for example before marriage there's no

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place

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for the satisfaction of the sexual

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appetite you strictly have to have

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control over that

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and if

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you allow the sexual appetite to be your

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god

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and of course we have that as the case

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in the world many young people allow

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that to be the case that's what they

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talk about all the time that's their

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focus

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and they're engaged in premarital sex

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there's all sorts of problems which

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come with that and are associated with

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it

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so there's a classic case where we have

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to control the appetite if we let it

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control us

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then we're in trouble but that doesn't

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mean the sexual appetite is wrong

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because the sexual appetite is right in

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the context of

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marriage

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now could it be wrong in marriage

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okay it can become

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even in the context of marriage a

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problem

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if that's your focus

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um that relationship and that component

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of the relationship if that is the focus

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then um

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you lose sight of god other priorities

509
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other things again the thinking mind has

510
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to come in place here

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but on the other hand um we are allowed

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in marriage to enjoy that and should

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enjoy it

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can anyone think of any passages on that

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subject

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in the bible

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okay that's true very good first

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corinthians 7. take a look at that

519
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it's a very interesting example because

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really with all of the appetites the

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the point is is

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we can enjoy our food with thanksgiving

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to god we shouldn't feel guilty about

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that

525
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ecclesiastes tells us to enjoy our labor

526
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we enjoy friendships and all of those

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things this one has some special

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attention

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given to it by the apostle paul in this

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place

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because

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he's telling us that

533
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well that principle is still true

534
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there is a level here

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at which when you are married

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there has to be a real consideration for

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the other partner

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and so let's take a look at it first

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corinthians 7

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maybe someone can

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read

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verse 1 through verse

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five

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who would volunteer for that

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someone a lot yes

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it is good for a man not to touch a

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woman

548
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nevertheless to avoid fornication let

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every man have his own wife and let

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every woman have her own presence

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let the husband render unto the wife due

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benevolence and likewise also the wife

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unto the husband

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the wife has not power

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of her own body but the husband and

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likewise also the husband has not power

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of his own body but the wife

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the fraud you not won the other accepted

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be with consent for a time that you may

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give yourselves to fasting and prayer

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and come together again that satan

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taught you not your incontinence

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okay thank you

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it's a very important subject and you're

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married you're

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joined together with another person

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that's a very special relationship it's

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a wonderful relationship

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and

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it's one where a number of things can

571
00:22:09.039 --> 00:22:12.390
become issues which can ultimately lead

572
00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:14.390
to a breakup in that marriage and that's

573
00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:16.549
what we see in the world around us

574
00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:20.630
these issues very often become so large

575
00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:23.430
that these marriages break apart

576
00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:26.950
and this is one of those issues

577
00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:29.029
and so it's well as well for us to

578
00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:31.190
consider this and to understand what's

579
00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:32.789
being said here

580
00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:34.789
and i think the spirit of it is as

581
00:22:34.799 --> 00:22:37.190
you've already expressed that

582
00:22:37.200 --> 00:22:39.430
we're told there's a level at which the

583
00:22:39.440 --> 00:22:41.590
husband

584
00:22:41.600 --> 00:22:44.230
should be satisfying and pleasing his

585
00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:45.430
wife

586
00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:48.789
as she wants to be and similarly

587
00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:50.149
the wife should be pleasing and

588
00:22:50.159 --> 00:22:53.190
satisfying her husband as he wants to be

589
00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:55.029
and it goes so far as to say the wife

590
00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:56.549
has not power

591
00:22:56.559 --> 00:22:58.070
of her own body

592
00:22:58.080 --> 00:23:01.270
it's as if there is another one

593
00:23:01.280 --> 00:23:02.950
ruling or

594
00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:06.950
as it were

595
00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:11.669
looking for the satisfaction and

596
00:23:11.679 --> 00:23:13.029
so

597
00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:14.390
this is an important one verse five

598
00:23:14.400 --> 00:23:16.149
defraud you not one another you're not

599
00:23:16.159 --> 00:23:18.870
to manipulate one another in these

600
00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:21.350
matters if you do that as very very

601
00:23:21.360 --> 00:23:22.870
dangerous to the marriage and some

602
00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:25.830
people do do just that thing

603
00:23:25.840 --> 00:23:27.750
they use that as sort of a weapon one

604
00:23:27.760 --> 00:23:29.270
towards another

605
00:23:29.280 --> 00:23:31.190
you know you don't

606
00:23:31.200 --> 00:23:33.590
i'm not happy with how things are going

607
00:23:33.600 --> 00:23:35.270
on another front so i'm going to

608
00:23:35.280 --> 00:23:38.630
withhold from you this this pleasure

609
00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:40.390
and that's very dangerous because this

610
00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:43.110
appetite is seen to be

611
00:23:43.120 --> 00:23:45.909
an important appetite a basic appetite

612
00:23:45.919 --> 00:23:48.070
that needs to be satisfied so much so

613
00:23:48.080 --> 00:23:50.470
that paul actually says here if you go

614
00:23:50.480 --> 00:23:52.470
down in verse 9

615
00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:53.990
he's speaking to people and he says but

616
00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:55.990
if they cannot contain let them marry

617
00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:58.310
for it's better to marry than to burn

618
00:23:58.320 --> 00:24:00.310
now paul is very practical here he says

619
00:24:00.320 --> 00:24:02.630
look i'd rather that that you

620
00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:05.029
you know be single dedicate your mind

621
00:24:05.039 --> 00:24:07.190
wholeheartedly to the things of the

622
00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:08.789
truth

623
00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:10.070
but

624
00:24:10.080 --> 00:24:11.990
he recognizes that we have these natural

625
00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:13.510
desires

626
00:24:13.520 --> 00:24:15.669
and if you have those then

627
00:24:15.679 --> 00:24:17.190
his direction is

628
00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:18.630
to get married

629
00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:20.470
it's better to do that than to burn to

630
00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:23.029
have this appetite within you that

631
00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:24.870
it's there it's interested that rages

632
00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:28.470
and it's not satisfied

633
00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:29.830
so

634
00:24:29.840 --> 00:24:31.830
a great deal of respect should be shown

635
00:24:31.840 --> 00:24:33.269
for this subject

636
00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:35.110
the world does not

637
00:24:35.120 --> 00:24:37.909
show respect for this subject all of the

638
00:24:37.919 --> 00:24:39.990
things that go on before marriage and

639
00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:41.510
marriage isn't even bothered with people

640
00:24:41.520 --> 00:24:43.750
just live together they don't show the

641
00:24:43.760 --> 00:24:45.190
kinds of respect that there should be

642
00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:47.350
for this relationship

643
00:24:47.360 --> 00:24:49.430
the bible is really clear

644
00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:52.630
one man one woman

645
00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:55.110
and satisfaction can be enjoyed in that

646
00:24:55.120 --> 00:24:57.110
context

647
00:24:57.120 --> 00:24:58.549
and that's the pleasure that god has

648
00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:01.350
given us in fact

649
00:25:01.360 --> 00:25:03.750
in proverbs 5 you want to just flip over

650
00:25:03.760 --> 00:25:06.950
there

651
00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:10.549
we are told

652
00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:12.310
you just pick up the last phrase of it

653
00:25:12.320 --> 00:25:14.310
in verse 19.

654
00:25:14.320 --> 00:25:16.789
the man has said be thou ravished always

655
00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:19.510
with her love

656
00:25:19.520 --> 00:25:21.669
that's a wonderful thing to enjoy that

657
00:25:21.679 --> 00:25:23.029
companionship

658
00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:26.070
and that love between a man and a woman

659
00:25:26.080 --> 00:25:28.549
the literal hebrew there is go astray

660
00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:30.710
always with her love now go astray we

661
00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:32.789
usually think of as in terms of you know

662
00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:34.390
going the wrong way going the wrong

663
00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:36.549
direction

664
00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:39.430
but in this context

665
00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:41.909
going astray is to be involved with to

666
00:25:41.919 --> 00:25:43.350
enjoy

667
00:25:43.360 --> 00:25:45.990
her love

668
00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:46.870
okay

669
00:25:46.880 --> 00:25:47.990
so

670
00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:49.510
um

671
00:25:49.520 --> 00:25:51.430
it's important to get it right both ways

672
00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:52.710
you can

673
00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:55.029
the one way is is that people can feel

674
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:56.549
guilty

675
00:25:56.559 --> 00:25:58.310
about things they should not feel guilty

676
00:25:58.320 --> 00:26:00.310
about

677
00:26:00.320 --> 00:26:02.789
and this is one of those things

678
00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:05.750
in the marriage this should be enjoyed

679
00:26:05.760 --> 00:26:07.909
but number two it's funny how human

680
00:26:07.919 --> 00:26:09.350
nature works and that's what we're

681
00:26:09.360 --> 00:26:12.310
contending with sometimes we justify

682
00:26:12.320 --> 00:26:14.789
a lot of things we do that we should

683
00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:16.390
feel guilty about

684
00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:17.430
and we don't because of the

685
00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:19.750
deceitfulness of sin

686
00:26:19.760 --> 00:26:20.990
so

687
00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:23.110
ecclesiastes tells us about a list of

688
00:26:23.120 --> 00:26:24.710
appetites

689
00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:27.430
it tells us to enjoy our food

690
00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:30.390
to enjoy our drink to enjoy our labor

691
00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:33.430
and enjoy our wives we can enjoy these

692
00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:35.110
things as long as we do it with

693
00:26:35.120 --> 00:26:36.870
thankfulness to god

694
00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:39.590
but this principle is always

695
00:26:39.600 --> 00:26:42.310
overshadowing that it must not be a god

696
00:26:42.320 --> 00:26:43.990
to us so for example in first

697
00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:45.750
corinthians 7 it goes on and says you

698
00:26:45.760 --> 00:26:47.269
know

699
00:26:47.279 --> 00:26:49.029
i'd rather have you that you were just

700
00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:51.029
single-mindedly focused on the things of

701
00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:52.390
the truth because what happens in a

702
00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:54.630
marriage relationship is that

703
00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:56.230
the wife is looking to the things of the

704
00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:57.750
husband and the husband's looking for

705
00:26:57.760 --> 00:26:58.950
the things of the wife they want to

706
00:26:58.960 --> 00:27:00.710
satisfy each other they want to care for

707
00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:03.750
each other and those cares of this life

708
00:27:03.760 --> 00:27:06.870
do take up time

709
00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:08.070
and

710
00:27:08.080 --> 00:27:09.830
paul speaks of that as a matter of fact

711
00:27:09.840 --> 00:27:11.350
it does

712
00:27:11.360 --> 00:27:13.110
and it should if you decide to get

713
00:27:13.120 --> 00:27:15.510
married you have to invest time

714
00:27:15.520 --> 00:27:17.269
in that marriage

715
00:27:17.279 --> 00:27:19.029
you can't expect it just to be a healthy

716
00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:21.750
marriage you can't expect it just to to

717
00:27:21.760 --> 00:27:22.789
work

718
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:25.269
it needs to have time invested in it

719
00:27:25.279 --> 00:27:27.190
and you shouldn't feel guilty about that

720
00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:29.110
because that's a choice you've made on

721
00:27:29.120 --> 00:27:31.029
the other hand

722
00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:33.190
it must not be a god to you it must be

723
00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:35.430
the focus such that now you

724
00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:37.269
you know you don't go out to ecclesial

725
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:39.590
things you want to you want to have this

726
00:27:39.600 --> 00:27:41.909
um this relationship within the context

727
00:27:41.919 --> 00:27:43.669
of the ecclesia within the context of

728
00:27:43.679 --> 00:27:44.950
the truth

729
00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:46.470
and one of the most important things

730
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:48.310
that you give to each other in a

731
00:27:48.320 --> 00:27:50.549
marriage relationship is

732
00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:51.830
spiritual

733
00:27:51.840 --> 00:27:54.310
support

734
00:27:54.320 --> 00:27:56.870
now someone just give that fellow a

735
00:27:56.880 --> 00:27:59.350
little tap before he falls over

736
00:27:59.360 --> 00:28:00.789
that'd be good

737
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:04.070
okay thank you

738
00:28:04.080 --> 00:28:07.110
the neurotoxic venom once again is

739
00:28:07.120 --> 00:28:08.630
a little bit at work with the droopy

740
00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.909
eyelids

741
00:28:11.919 --> 00:28:13.510
okay let's look at another passage turn

742
00:28:13.520 --> 00:28:19.830
to romans 16.

743
00:28:19.840 --> 00:28:21.909
here's another one that's drawing on the

744
00:28:21.919 --> 00:28:24.389
same kind of

745
00:28:24.399 --> 00:28:26.710
language

746
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:28.549
and you can see how this one similarly

747
00:28:28.559 --> 00:28:31.510
is being drawn from

748
00:28:31.520 --> 00:28:33.430
the genesis account

749
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:35.110
all this language

750
00:28:35.120 --> 00:28:38.470
coming from the example of the serpent

751
00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:41.909
and the example of

752
00:28:41.919 --> 00:28:43.590
adam and eve

753
00:28:43.600 --> 00:28:45.269
now let's just go through here and maybe

754
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:47.510
you can tell me how these phrases have

755
00:28:47.520 --> 00:28:50.230
some significance back to the garden

756
00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:52.549
situation so we start with

757
00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:54.470
um

758
00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:56.070
now i beseech you brother and this is at

759
00:28:56.080 --> 00:28:58.710
the end of the chapter

760
00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:02.549
mark them which cause divisions

761
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:04.710
how does that have any relevance those

762
00:29:04.720 --> 00:29:06.630
words that language how does that have

763
00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:11.269
any relevance to the genesis account

764
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:13.190
causing divisions

765
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:18.070
marking them

766
00:29:18.080 --> 00:29:19.110
maybe i should have started with some

767
00:29:19.120 --> 00:29:29.190
easier ones the ones in the red yep

768
00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:31.909
okay in a sense in the judgments that

769
00:29:31.919 --> 00:29:34.149
god issued upon the serpent he was

770
00:29:34.159 --> 00:29:35.350
marked out

771
00:29:35.360 --> 00:29:37.990
upon the belly thou shall go so

772
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:40.389
he says mark them which cause divisions

773
00:29:40.399 --> 00:29:42.549
they're serpent-like and the serpent was

774
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:44.389
judged he was marked out as being

775
00:29:44.399 --> 00:29:48.470
against god okay cause divisions

776
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:50.230
the serpent caused a great division

777
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:51.190
didn't he

778
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:53.190
through speaking these words which were

779
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:55.350
in opposition to god

780
00:29:55.360 --> 00:29:57.750
offenses contrary to the doctrine

781
00:29:57.760 --> 00:30:13.430
contrary

782
00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:15.110
you have learned adam and eve had

783
00:30:15.120 --> 00:30:17.350
learned avoid them

784
00:30:17.360 --> 00:30:19.750
for they serve not our lord jesus christ

785
00:30:19.760 --> 00:30:21.110
but their own

786
00:30:21.120 --> 00:30:23.269
belly

787
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:24.710
okay

788
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:26.789
belly thick of the serpent upon his

789
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:27.830
belly

790
00:30:27.840 --> 00:30:33.110
and good words who had good words

791
00:30:33.120 --> 00:30:34.950
the serpent had good words and fair

792
00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:36.870
speeches he deceived the hearts of the

793
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:42.310
simple who's the simple

794
00:30:42.320 --> 00:30:43.990
the woman in particular the woman

795
00:30:44.000 --> 00:30:47.430
because she was beguiled and deceived

796
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:48.789
wasn't she and the bible makes a

797
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:50.230
distinction there between the man and

798
00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:53.269
the woman she was fooled

799
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:54.710
she was simple

800
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:57.830
you know what simple means

801
00:30:57.840 --> 00:31:01.509
what's the idea behind simple

802
00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:03.110
no

803
00:31:03.120 --> 00:31:08.230
not a good idea

804
00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:10.710
right right

805
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:15.909
innocent yes any other ideas

806
00:31:15.919 --> 00:31:20.470
naive yes innocent naive open the hebrew

807
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:25.029
idea is uh she was very open

808
00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:26.470
vulnerable

809
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:30.310
and so here she is deceived for your

810
00:31:30.320 --> 00:31:32.389
obedience is come abroad unto all men

811
00:31:32.399 --> 00:31:34.149
that's sort of the opposite isn't it the

812
00:31:34.159 --> 00:31:36.549
disobedience of adam and eve has come to

813
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:38.870
all men and has affected all of us but

814
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:40.470
we see here

815
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:41.990
these people

816
00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:43.590
the example of the romans here the

817
00:31:43.600 --> 00:31:45.350
believers their obedience had come

818
00:31:45.360 --> 00:31:47.590
abroad to all men that message of how

819
00:31:47.600 --> 00:31:49.909
they were faithful had been spread

820
00:31:49.919 --> 00:31:51.190
abroad

821
00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:52.470
then it goes on and says i'm glad

822
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:54.070
therefore in your behalf but yet i would

823
00:31:54.080 --> 00:31:56.149
have you wise

824
00:31:56.159 --> 00:31:58.149
unto that which is good

825
00:31:58.159 --> 00:31:59.830
what does it mean to be wise unto that

826
00:31:59.840 --> 00:32:04.630
which is good

827
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:07.190
to know what's good and to experience

828
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:09.350
what's good to be involved with the good

829
00:32:09.360 --> 00:32:11.190
things

830
00:32:11.200 --> 00:32:13.110
okay

831
00:32:13.120 --> 00:32:15.110
but simple concerning evil now what does

832
00:32:15.120 --> 00:32:25.430
that mean

833
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:27.669
right now that's a really important

834
00:32:27.679 --> 00:32:30.149
point for our day and age because the

835
00:32:30.159 --> 00:32:31.990
the way the world's coming at us is it

836
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:35.430
wants us to experience everything

837
00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:37.909
and it really um

838
00:32:37.919 --> 00:32:39.909
is such that we experience things very

839
00:32:39.919 --> 00:32:42.950
early on in life

840
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:44.630
things are just being presented to us

841
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:46.950
one thing after another at school and at

842
00:32:46.960 --> 00:32:49.269
work through the television the radio

843
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:50.710
and the internet

844
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:52.470
all these things are being presented to

845
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:54.710
us and so

846
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:57.350
these words are well to keep in mind as

847
00:32:57.360 --> 00:32:59.110
a principle for living

848
00:32:59.120 --> 00:33:00.710
you don't need to know all the details

849
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:02.870
you don't need to be involved with this

850
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:05.830
evil it's like today you need to

851
00:33:05.840 --> 00:33:08.070
experience it all and know it all and

852
00:33:08.080 --> 00:33:09.909
and you know choose through it all be

853
00:33:09.919 --> 00:33:11.269
aware of it all

854
00:33:11.279 --> 00:33:16.070
some things you just don't need to know

855
00:33:16.080 --> 00:33:18.070
you don't need to know all the you know

856
00:33:18.080 --> 00:33:20.149
really all the different drugs

857
00:33:20.159 --> 00:33:21.750
that you can take and all the different

858
00:33:21.760 --> 00:33:23.509
impact upon them

859
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:25.669
on you you just stay away from them you

860
00:33:25.679 --> 00:33:28.310
want to be simple concerning that evil

861
00:33:28.320 --> 00:33:30.710
you don't need to

862
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.909
to be wise towards all of that

863
00:33:33.919 --> 00:33:35.669
it's not good

864
00:33:35.679 --> 00:33:37.669
okay now if you actually have the drug

865
00:33:37.679 --> 00:33:39.350
problem obviously you need to get help

866
00:33:39.360 --> 00:33:41.029
and to learn how to

867
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:42.950
overcome that and work through that

868
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:45.830
problem but in a basic sort of way here

869
00:33:45.840 --> 00:33:49.509
we're being told in this message just to

870
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:50.789
stay away from me but you don't need to

871
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:52.470
experience it you don't need to be wise

872
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:55.029
towards it be wise towards the good be

873
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:57.669
experienced and know it and and be

874
00:33:57.679 --> 00:33:59.269
involved with it

875
00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:01.669
and the god of peace

876
00:34:01.679 --> 00:34:14.790
how does that relate back to genesis 3.

877
00:34:14.800 --> 00:34:17.990
no ideas

878
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:20.629
the god of peace was god the one that

879
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:24.310
caused the conflict

880
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:25.349
no

881
00:34:25.359 --> 00:34:28.149
he was the one who provided the solution

882
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:29.589
when the serpent went out in the one

883
00:34:29.599 --> 00:34:32.629
particular direction against him

884
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:34.310
he took on the serpent and says i will

885
00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:36.069
put enmity i'm gonna i'm gonna war

886
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:37.510
against you

887
00:34:37.520 --> 00:34:39.589
and by winning that war god will

888
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:42.069
ultimately bring peace

889
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:43.829
okay

890
00:34:43.839 --> 00:34:46.629
and finally he shall bruise satan unto

891
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:48.550
your feet

892
00:34:48.560 --> 00:34:50.790
satan is the name of

893
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:52.069
the serpent

894
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:53.750
and we certainly recognize the reference

895
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:54.950
to the feet

896
00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:57.990
what happened to the foot

897
00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:00.829
it was bruised and what did it

898
00:35:00.839 --> 00:35:03.750
do it crushed

899
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:04.870
the head

900
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:06.550
of the serpent okay so you see how that

901
00:35:06.560 --> 00:35:07.990
language is all the way through there

902
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:10.150
and again it's a warning to serve the

903
00:35:10.160 --> 00:35:12.310
lord

904
00:35:12.320 --> 00:35:15.750
not our belly

905
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:19.030
okay so it's a real principle

906
00:35:19.040 --> 00:35:22.230
for life

907
00:35:22.240 --> 00:35:25.190
now i want to give you one example of

908
00:35:25.200 --> 00:35:27.109
this as it relates to the nations so

909
00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:29.670
turn to jeremiah 51

910
00:35:29.680 --> 00:35:42.790
34.

911
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:46.230
this is a an example of a nation that

912
00:35:46.240 --> 00:35:49.430
feeds its belly and lots of nations

913
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:51.030
do that

914
00:35:51.040 --> 00:35:53.270
here's a picture of a

915
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:54.550
snake

916
00:35:54.560 --> 00:35:56.710
preparing to feed its belly by taking in

917
00:35:56.720 --> 00:36:00.230
a frog

918
00:36:00.240 --> 00:36:01.829
and that's the kind of picture that we

919
00:36:01.839 --> 00:36:03.030
have here

920
00:36:03.040 --> 00:36:05.829
with the inhabitant of zion being the

921
00:36:05.839 --> 00:36:07.589
frog as it were

922
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:09.750
and the dragon being the serpent being

923
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:11.430
nebuchadnezzar

924
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:14.950
let's read it jeremiah 51 34. volunteer

925
00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:19.910
please

926
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:22.630
please not everyone at once at the back

927
00:36:22.640 --> 00:36:43.109
yep

928
00:36:43.119 --> 00:36:44.710
okay so

929
00:36:44.720 --> 00:36:47.589
um nebuchadnezzar or rezar is king of

930
00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:49.910
babylon and it speaks of him devouring

931
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:52.390
the inhabitant of zion he's like this

932
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:55.349
animal this monster the serpent which

933
00:36:55.359 --> 00:36:57.829
feeds upon these people

934
00:36:57.839 --> 00:37:00.150
and he swallows them

935
00:37:00.160 --> 00:37:02.550
like a dragon that word dragon is

936
00:37:02.560 --> 00:37:04.950
sometimes utilized of a serpent it's the

937
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:08.470
word tanem and it refers to a long beast

938
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:11.349
and so sometimes that refers to a to a

939
00:37:11.359 --> 00:37:12.390
serpent

940
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:16.710
for example remember when moses

941
00:37:16.720 --> 00:37:18.870
turned the rod into a snake

942
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:21.109
into a serpent well in that case the

943
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:22.550
word for serpent was actually this

944
00:37:22.560 --> 00:37:24.630
hebrew word tanem which is here

945
00:37:24.640 --> 00:37:26.550
translated dragon or i think in your

946
00:37:26.560 --> 00:37:29.030
version it was actually monster

947
00:37:29.040 --> 00:37:31.349
so the nations are like monsters

948
00:37:31.359 --> 00:37:32.790
in the way they treat one another and

949
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:34.310
you can certainly see that do you think

950
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:36.710
of any modern day examples of

951
00:37:36.720 --> 00:37:39.030
of nations or leaders who are like

952
00:37:39.040 --> 00:37:44.150
monsters

953
00:37:44.160 --> 00:37:45.030
yup

954
00:37:45.040 --> 00:37:46.950
a very good example preying on the

955
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:49.349
smaller weaker nations around

956
00:37:49.359 --> 00:37:52.150
what about slobodan milosevic

957
00:37:52.160 --> 00:37:54.230
he's another monster and he's just been

958
00:37:54.240 --> 00:37:55.990
taken by the u.n

959
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:57.190
and will

960
00:37:57.200 --> 00:38:02.550
suffer the consequences of all of his

961
00:38:02.560 --> 00:38:04.550
wicked ways

962
00:38:04.560 --> 00:38:05.430
you know

963
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:08.390
men being slaughtered women being raped

964
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:09.670
children being

965
00:38:09.680 --> 00:38:12.550
sold into slavery awful the way nations

966
00:38:12.560 --> 00:38:15.190
treated nations and it was all under the

967
00:38:15.200 --> 00:38:18.550
principle that they were feeding their

968
00:38:18.560 --> 00:38:19.750
bellies

969
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:21.510
they were doing what comes natural to

970
00:38:21.520 --> 00:38:23.349
them for their own interests and their

971
00:38:23.359 --> 00:38:32.230
own purposes

972
00:38:32.240 --> 00:38:34.870
okay i'd like you to turn to uh james

973
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:37.510
chapter four

974
00:38:37.520 --> 00:38:38.790
and uh we'll look at another

975
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:44.230
excitational passage here for us

976
00:38:44.240 --> 00:38:47.109
as it talks about um our relationships

977
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:47.990
one

978
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:50.390
with another

979
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:51.910
actually if i could have the lights now

980
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:53.670
please that'd be great

981
00:38:53.680 --> 00:39:04.550
james chapter four

982
00:39:04.560 --> 00:39:06.790
he says whence comes wars and fightings

983
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:08.710
among you verse one come they not hence

984
00:39:08.720 --> 00:39:10.310
even of your lusts that war in your

985
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:12.790
members

986
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.109
now he's talking about warfare in two

987
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:16.790
planes there

988
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:18.950
can you identify those for me what

989
00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:20.470
warfare are we talking about here in

990
00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:23.990
verse one

991
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:27.510
where the battles being fought

992
00:39:27.520 --> 00:39:30.230
there's wars and fightings among you

993
00:39:30.240 --> 00:39:31.430
who's that

994
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:33.270
and then there's

995
00:39:33.280 --> 00:39:35.030
come they not hence even of your lust

996
00:39:35.040 --> 00:39:37.990
that war in your members

997
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:39.349
so what are the two battlefronts that

998
00:39:39.359 --> 00:39:51.829
are being talked about here

999
00:39:51.839 --> 00:39:53.750
okay so what do you think the first one

1000
00:39:53.760 --> 00:39:55.990
is there once comes wars and fightings

1001
00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:58.069
among you

1002
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:02.230
who's the you who's he talking to james

1003
00:40:02.240 --> 00:40:03.910
you had

1004
00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:06.069
some of the right ideas there anybody

1005
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:07.109
help us

1006
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.510
let's look at that very first one james

1007
00:40:09.520 --> 00:40:12.870
is talking to who

1008
00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:14.870
members of the ecclesia that's right

1009
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:16.870
he's talking about conflict in the

1010
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:19.030
ecclesia between people

1011
00:40:19.040 --> 00:40:21.109
and then he goes on and says come they

1012
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:23.030
not hence even of your lust that war in

1013
00:40:23.040 --> 00:40:25.270
your members

1014
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:31.109
what's that referring to

1015
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:35.430
okay but where's that striving going on

1016
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:38.470
internally right you notice that it's

1017
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:40.470
interesting how he changes the battle

1018
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:41.829
scene

1019
00:40:41.839 --> 00:40:43.349
he's talking about things are going on

1020
00:40:43.359 --> 00:40:44.710
the outside and he's saying you're

1021
00:40:44.720 --> 00:40:47.270
losing these warfares because you're

1022
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:49.589
losing the battle within

1023
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:51.190
yourself

1024
00:40:51.200 --> 00:40:52.790
and so when we

1025
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:54.870
engage in all sorts of interactions

1026
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:56.069
between ourselves which are

1027
00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:58.790
inappropriate it's probably because

1028
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:01.270
we're not dealing with our lusts

1029
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:04.069
our belly our appetites our feelings

1030
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:06.870
within ourselves so he says verse two

1031
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:08.470
you lust and you have not you kill and

1032
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:10.390
you desire to heaven it cannot obtain

1033
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:13.190
you fight and war you have not because

1034
00:41:13.200 --> 00:41:15.750
you ask not ye ask and receive not

1035
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:17.910
because you ask amiss that you may

1036
00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:21.829
consume it upon your lusts

1037
00:41:21.839 --> 00:41:23.510
so then he says ye adulterers and

1038
00:41:23.520 --> 00:41:25.109
adulteresses know ye not that the

1039
00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:27.030
friendship of the world is enmity with

1040
00:41:27.040 --> 00:41:29.589
god whosoever therefore will be a friend

1041
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:33.109
of the world is the enemy of god

1042
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:35.030
now he's not even talking about being a

1043
00:41:35.040 --> 00:41:36.710
friend with the world by

1044
00:41:36.720 --> 00:41:39.349
unequally yoking with the world that's

1045
00:41:39.359 --> 00:41:40.950
sort of an obvious

1046
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:42.550
we do not

1047
00:41:42.560 --> 00:41:46.230
make friends with the world

1048
00:41:46.240 --> 00:41:48.390
how can we make friends with the world

1049
00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:50.870
what does that mean

1050
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:52.390
because he says if you're a friend with

1051
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:53.910
the world

1052
00:41:53.920 --> 00:41:56.550
it's you're an enemy of god

1053
00:41:56.560 --> 00:42:10.710
what does that mean

1054
00:42:10.720 --> 00:42:12.470
okay so

1055
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:14.790
it could be not just people it could be

1056
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:18.630
also the things of the world

1057
00:42:18.640 --> 00:42:20.870
we don't want to come too attached to

1058
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:23.829
them too friendly with them

1059
00:42:23.839 --> 00:42:25.589
we have to watch our associations can

1060
00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:32.950
you give me specific examples

1061
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:35.349
materialism that's a good one we can be

1062
00:42:35.359 --> 00:42:37.030
a very very friendly with all the

1063
00:42:37.040 --> 00:42:39.270
material things of this life and just

1064
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:40.790
like the world

1065
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:42.390
we can have them in our lives grow

1066
00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:43.910
attached to them and they can have a

1067
00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:45.829
very big place in our life what's

1068
00:42:45.839 --> 00:42:53.670
another example

1069
00:42:53.680 --> 00:42:56.829
drug buddies

1070
00:42:56.839 --> 00:42:59.750
okay definitely don't want to have

1071
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:00.870
um

1072
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:03.030
that kind of association

1073
00:43:03.040 --> 00:43:05.510
one of my friends with the world people

1074
00:43:05.520 --> 00:43:07.109
who are

1075
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:09.430
into drugs people who are bad company

1076
00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:12.710
because they corrupt good character

1077
00:43:12.720 --> 00:43:14.150
there's lots of examples you don't want

1078
00:43:14.160 --> 00:43:16.630
to marry outside of the truth you don't

1079
00:43:16.640 --> 00:43:19.030
want to have special relationships

1080
00:43:19.040 --> 00:43:20.230
outside of the truth that you're

1081
00:43:20.240 --> 00:43:21.910
trusting and counting on because they

1082
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:23.589
can let you down and the example of

1083
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:25.829
scripture is constantly you need to rely

1084
00:43:25.839 --> 00:43:26.950
on god

1085
00:43:26.960 --> 00:43:28.309
and you've got to do these kinds of

1086
00:43:28.319 --> 00:43:30.230
things in the context of the truth and

1087
00:43:30.240 --> 00:43:32.470
believers

1088
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:34.390
so there's lots of examples of that but

1089
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:37.190
what he's actually saying here

1090
00:43:37.200 --> 00:43:39.510
is that friendship with the world

1091
00:43:39.520 --> 00:43:42.309
is

1092
00:43:42.319 --> 00:43:44.470
based on the fact that you are acting

1093
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:47.270
like the world

1094
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:49.750
inside if you just allow your lust to

1095
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:53.190
rule if the bellies call on the shots

1096
00:43:53.200 --> 00:43:54.470
then you know what you're friends with

1097
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:55.910
the world you're no different than they

1098
00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:56.870
are

1099
00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:58.630
now quite frankly you might not have any

1100
00:43:58.640 --> 00:44:00.630
friends in the world literally you might

1101
00:44:00.640 --> 00:44:02.470
be all unto yourself

1102
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:04.630
in theoclesia

1103
00:44:04.640 --> 00:44:05.829
even some of these other things you

1104
00:44:05.839 --> 00:44:08.150
might not be involved in but if you're

1105
00:44:08.160 --> 00:44:10.550
allowing this

1106
00:44:10.560 --> 00:44:12.390
lust to to

1107
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:13.190
have

1108
00:44:13.200 --> 00:44:15.750
a free wheel within yourself

1109
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:17.589
then you're just like the world so

1110
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:20.150
you've got to fight within

1111
00:44:20.160 --> 00:44:22.150
there is a war to wage within the one on

1112
00:44:22.160 --> 00:44:24.230
the outside is obvious you can't be

1113
00:44:24.240 --> 00:44:26.069
friends with the world

1114
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:28.150
paul says do not be unequally yoked but

1115
00:44:28.160 --> 00:44:31.510
he goes beyond that he tells us to wage

1116
00:44:31.520 --> 00:44:33.270
the warfare

1117
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:35.430
within

1118
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:37.430
um we go on there

1119
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:40.390
uh let's just pick up the verses uh

1120
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:42.950
uh verse five and six he says do you

1121
00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:44.309
think the scripture saith in vain the

1122
00:44:44.319 --> 00:44:47.030
spirit that dwells in us lost it to envy

1123
00:44:47.040 --> 00:44:49.030
but he giveth more grace wherefore he

1124
00:44:49.040 --> 00:44:51.030
saith god resisteth the proud but giveth

1125
00:44:51.040 --> 00:44:53.349
grace unto the humble

1126
00:44:53.359 --> 00:44:54.150
so

1127
00:44:54.160 --> 00:44:55.829
you know don't be proud don't allow

1128
00:44:55.839 --> 00:44:58.390
pride to rule here in our relationships

1129
00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:00.230
with one another young people we need to

1130
00:45:00.240 --> 00:45:01.510
be

1131
00:45:01.520 --> 00:45:03.030
caring and considerate we need to put

1132
00:45:03.040 --> 00:45:05.910
the principle of love into place

1133
00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:07.190
and

1134
00:45:07.200 --> 00:45:08.870
humility

1135
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:10.710
is a wonderful thing

1136
00:45:10.720 --> 00:45:12.230
as he says here

1137
00:45:12.240 --> 00:45:14.710
god gives grace unto the humble

1138
00:45:14.720 --> 00:45:15.589
and

1139
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:16.950
this should be seen in the way we

1140
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:19.030
interact with each other we're not

1141
00:45:19.040 --> 00:45:21.270
always elevating self

1142
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:22.950
we're not going around making people

1143
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:24.230
feel bad

1144
00:45:24.240 --> 00:45:25.270
um

1145
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:26.950
we're trying to include everybody and

1146
00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:29.750
we're we speak in a humble and caring

1147
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:34.309
way but if we take the other approach

1148
00:45:34.319 --> 00:45:36.309
and we allow ourselves just to sort of

1149
00:45:36.319 --> 00:45:38.150
do what we feel like and to talk how we

1150
00:45:38.160 --> 00:45:40.309
want to talk

1151
00:45:40.319 --> 00:45:41.910
inconsiderate of others then we can

1152
00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:43.510
become a little bit like

1153
00:45:43.520 --> 00:45:45.430
this snake here which is having a long

1154
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:46.390
meal

1155
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:48.390
because he's not just eating a frog here

1156
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:50.390
he's eating another snake

1157
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:51.430
and that's

1158
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:53.910
swallowing a snake all the way down it's

1159
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:56.470
like eating his brother

1160
00:45:56.480 --> 00:45:58.550
and that's something we don't want to do

1161
00:45:58.560 --> 00:46:00.470
amongst ourselves

1162
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:02.390
everybody here is aiming for the same

1163
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:04.150
place so we need to be supportive one of

1164
00:46:04.160 --> 00:46:06.870
another and he says here if you bite and

1165
00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:09.109
devour one another take heed that ye be

1166
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:11.430
not consumed one of another

1167
00:46:11.440 --> 00:46:12.150
so

1168
00:46:12.160 --> 00:46:13.750
you know young people

1169
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:15.589
together should be characterized by a

1170
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:17.750
supportive

1171
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:19.510
loving relationship where you're

1172
00:46:19.520 --> 00:46:21.670
interested in each other and supportive

1173
00:46:21.680 --> 00:46:23.670
of the goals that you have one towards

1174
00:46:23.680 --> 00:46:24.790
another

1175
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:25.829
but if

1176
00:46:25.839 --> 00:46:28.870
you know you got little clicks and

1177
00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:31.349
you speak negatively towards others and

1178
00:46:31.359 --> 00:46:32.710
and you allow those things to sort of

1179
00:46:32.720 --> 00:46:35.349
rule in your midst then

1180
00:46:35.359 --> 00:46:37.270
this is a very good example to look at

1181
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.270
here in galatians 5

1182
00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:40.710
19.

1183
00:46:40.720 --> 00:46:43.030
and it's pretty ugly isn't it and

1184
00:46:43.040 --> 00:46:44.470
sometimes we don't think of that in the

1185
00:46:44.480 --> 00:46:46.870
context of the way we behave towards one

1186
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:49.910
another but galatians goes on to say

1187
00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:52.790
love one another that's the overriding

1188
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:54.309
principle

1189
00:46:54.319 --> 00:46:55.430
okay

1190
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:56.950
i'm going to leave it that what i want

1191
00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:59.270
to do though is to have

1192
00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:01.430
some questions some issues let's deal

1193
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:03.030
with some

1194
00:47:03.040 --> 00:47:04.790
issues that you want to go through and

1195
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:08.790
we can start to apply these principles

1196
00:47:08.800 --> 00:47:10.390
that we're learning here

1197
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:14.870
in some real situations in life

1198
00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:17.109
so we move on from god

1199
00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:18.630
and

1200
00:47:18.640 --> 00:47:20.440
solving our problems with god to

1201
00:47:20.450 --> 00:47:21.589
[Music]

1202
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:23.270
looking to the example of christ and

1203
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:24.470
with his help

1204
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:26.230
we now got to remember that we can't

1205
00:47:26.240 --> 00:47:29.109
allow the belly to rule self

1206
00:47:29.119 --> 00:47:31.190
cannot get in the way and that's usually

1207
00:47:31.200 --> 00:47:32.549
where problems

1208
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:33.750
arise

1209
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:36.069
so again come up with some issues and

1210
00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:37.430
we'll try to deal with those in a

1211
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:41.720
scriptural basis thank you