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brother devran sharon

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class number five

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from whence come wars and fightings

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among you

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brothers and sisters i'm sure you felt

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that you were over the business with the

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tongue

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some people have said they haven't

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gotten over their own yet

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yes

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i don't think we will ever be over the

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problems of the tongue completely until

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the lord returns

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well we will continue to try our hardest

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that verse back in chapter 3 which says

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the tongue is a fire a world of iniquity

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that it defileth the whole body and set

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it on fire the course of nature

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talked about the fact that the

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the the course of nature is the wheel of

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creation

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if every human's life involves

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a wheel of creative activity

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all the potential for things that can be

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done that are good

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then our tongues can set fire to

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somebody else's life

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and burn up all the productive activity

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in their lives completely

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it's it's happened

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tongues set fire to things

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adolf hitler's

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tongue

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ignited

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the pyres which burned six million

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jewels

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lenin's tongue

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burned up an entire society

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and ignited the russian revolution

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and there are tongues today that are

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equally as powerful in many countries

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so that's on a grand scale

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but in our own way

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our tongues can set fire to other

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people's lives

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it says that the tongue

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is set on fire of hell

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now the word hell is

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is gehenna

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referring to the hinnom valley

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it was a garbage dump that's what it was

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it was a garbage dump where

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there were maggots

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stench

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rats

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flesh that was always rotten and foul

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remember we had looked at a passage

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yesterday that described the pharisees

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as being

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white washed tombs on the outside that

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had dead men's bones and festering flesh

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on the inside

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so the way they behaved was just that

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coming out of them

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what was inside came out

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well

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when we when when we now this is not

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when we talk too much it's when we

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gossip

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when we speak against other people to

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break them down

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somebody asked the question well look

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what if what if i think someone has a

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problem but i'm not sure and i go and

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ask another sister is there something

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wrong with

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well that's not gossip

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that's look trying to get information to

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help

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seeking clarification from somebody that

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might be closer to the individual so

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that you can help

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at the very least so you can pray

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but if it is the sharing of spicy

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tidbits in order to disparage or to

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to humble or to

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to break down the

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reputation of another human being

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then then our time our tongues are set

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on fire of hell

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now let's have a quick look a shocking

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image

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but it's in it's it's in isaiah chapter

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the end of isaiah

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it's at the end of all the rebellions

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that have taken place that have been

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quelled by the son of god

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after the establishment of the kingdom

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or at its inception when it is

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and on the slopes a particular slope

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there are dead bodies that seem to be

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preserved in a continual state

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of disrepair

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are preserved

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rotten

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interesting

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verse 24

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and they shall go forth

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and look upon the carcasses of the men

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that have transgressed

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against me

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for their worm

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shall not die

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neither shall their fire

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be quenched

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and they shall be and abhorring

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unto all flesh so there must be in some

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area in the land a place

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where there's

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a continual reminder

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just as the psalmist who went into the

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temple when i went in

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and i beheld what was in

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the temple i realized i who had been

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envious because i saw the brass plates

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on top of the altar that were made from

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the sensors of those that had rebelled

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those will fleshly and all of it came to

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naught they were swallowed up in the

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earth

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but that which they

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wanted

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was melted down and used as a covering

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for a continual memorial a witness

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against them

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so it is the case that that somewhere in

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the land

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there would appear to be a continual

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memorial to those that

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were rebellious against the lord

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but but but

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the point is it's rotten flesh and worms

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that never die and garbage and and

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stench and filth and muck and slime

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so you know

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children swear you you tell them or

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children say things that are

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inappropriate or call each other stupid

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you can sometimes if they're at a

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certain age say that's garbage that is

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coming out of your mouth

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what is within

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comes out in a negative way

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for us

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when our tongues are set on fire of hell

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it is the rottenness the internal

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garbage that we may be carrying about in

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ourselves

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that is coming out and being directed

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against someone

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we don't like or we want to criticize or

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we want to break down

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in particular we seem to have a deep

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enjoyment of breaking down those that we

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ourselves put on pedestals

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and we shouldn't put anyone on any

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pedestal any time any place no one no

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one at all

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anybody that is on a pedestal is going

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to fall down when it becomes apparent

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when it becomes apparent that they are

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made of flesh and blood

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and that their families are just

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families and their children are just

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children and they are just men or they

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are just women

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like all other men and women

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so then

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there was a problem in the ecclesias

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with tongues

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and criticism

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gossip

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there was a problem beginning in chapter

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four from whence come wars

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fightings among you

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that could be translated

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strifes

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and brawlings the word wars means

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agitation and tumult of battle

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it's war

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the ecclesia is in a state of war

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the first word

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pictures a chronic state or campaign of

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war

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and the word fighting is the second word

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well those are the individual battles

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that take place in this grand campaign

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but the ecclesia is not a place of of of

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wars and campaigns

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it must be a place of therapy

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a therapeutic resting place

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and people go through all the wars of

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fighting against their own flesh in the

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world around them

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all week long or through the course of

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the the two or three days before they

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get to bible class or before they get to

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the meeting

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they need for the meeting

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to be a place of healing of

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encouragement of uplift and upbuilding

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but as in many of our ecclesias

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the reality was

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that there were wars and fightings among

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them well where did they come from is

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where do these things come from

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do they not come from your lusts that

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war in your members

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the fighting and strife that was

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occurring in the ecclesias

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the bringing out into the open

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of a war that was already going in

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going on inside of the individuals

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so there was a war inside of the people

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that were fighting in the ecclesia

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that was then brought out into open

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a restlessness a fighting going on

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fleshly lusting

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pleasures that

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the base part of our nature

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that's what it's talking about your

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lusts that war and your members

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so there were lusts that were warring on

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the inside of people inside of their

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it's a war amongst the members of the

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ecclesia also

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there's a passage of course that we

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should turn to

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in paul's epistle to the romans

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i'm going to go to romans

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since i cannot make head or tail of the

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notes that i've written down

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i will try to find them with you

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yes so romans chapter 7

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let us begin then

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at verse 15.

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there is indeed a battle that goes on in

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every one of us

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paul talks about it

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i'm so glad for myself that this passage

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is in scripture because it comforts me

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in my own battle

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for that which

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i do

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i allow not

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for not what i would that do i practice

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revised version

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but what i hate

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that i do

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but if what i would not

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what i

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don't really want to do

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what i would not

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that i do

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i consent unto the law that it is good

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because it condemns me

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it condemns me to death for sin

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every time i respond to sin and do what

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i ought not to do i'm saying the law is

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good

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in that way

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in that particular area of its of of of

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its its scope and its

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nature but if what i would not that i do

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i consent unto the law that it is good

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so now

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it is no more either do it but sin which

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dwells in me

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i try to see inside of myself that all

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right it's my sin nature that's in me

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that propels me forward and responds to

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the external stimuli or even the

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internal

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entrenched things that i've poured into

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my mind over the years of my existence

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and there it is wrestling away inside

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the mind of christ and the mind of the

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flesh

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continual

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ripping apart going on inside of me that

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rustling of wills

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for i know that in me that is in my

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flesh

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dwells no good thing

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for to will is present with me

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to to to want to do is present with me

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but how to do that which is good

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i find is not

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for the good which i would i do not

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but the evil the evil which i would not

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that i practice

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but if what i would not that i do it is

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no more either do it but sin which

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dwelleth in me

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i find then a law that to me who would

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do good evil is present

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for i delight in the law of god after

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the inward man

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but i see a different law

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in my members warring against the law of

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my mind

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and bringing me into captivity under the

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law of sin

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which is in my members

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so lest we should think reading

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the earlier verses that paul is saying

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well you know when i do wrong things

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it's not really me it's it's sin in me

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that's doing wrong things

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it's not the case it's a source of great

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grief he knows it's him i do the wrong

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things i do

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but there is a mechanism in me that

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works

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that i strive to control but it is

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strong this impulse

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and it wars against the mind of christ

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that is in me

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it's a war in my body in my mind in my

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flesh i don't i love the law of god a

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brother might say i love to study and

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yet my mind with its fleshly instincts

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and desires and these may not be these

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may not be

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just just just the the particular ones

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that we might think of that are

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connected with particular sins

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it's in a broad way

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it may be the love of money it may be

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the love of adulation it may be the love

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of whatever it may be

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the things that my flesh

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is akin to and wants whatever they may

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be

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that's the war that goes on and you see

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paul doesn't just calmly let it go by

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and say well this is what i have to cope

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with till the end of my days

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this this this man of god who wrestled

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with the war in his members

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that you and i wrestle with screams out

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says oh wretched man that i am

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who shall deliver me from the body of

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this death

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and then he says who is going to do it

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only god

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through the lord jesus christ

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so then i am resolved

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with my mind

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i myself with the mind serve the law of

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god

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but with the flesh the law of sin

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and that battle will never stop for any

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of us

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and scripture just makes the hostilities

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continue but it'd be eternal and the but

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it's been well said when somebody has a

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problem inside that they don't want to

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face they focus on everyone else's

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problem

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right

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and in a situation where we are faced

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with the motion of sin in our members

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and in our minds and we are not coping

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and we are not responding by fighting as

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best we can

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with prayer

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with the lord's help and with each

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other's help

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every one of us

402
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we need to be able to talk to somebody

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or we need to talk especially to our

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spouse

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about the things that we wrestle with

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inside of ourselves and in our minds

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it might be a frightening

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frightening proposition

409
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because you don't know how he will take

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it

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you don't know how he will take

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what you struggle with

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chances are he struggles with the same

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things

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from a different perspective

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and and chances are in talking these

417
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things through

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it doesn't push people apart

419
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it draws people together

420
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well you say then i can't do that with

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my spouse or i don't have a spouse

422
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and there must be at least a friend

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that you can share your internal

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struggles with

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not so that you just say well it's great

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to know somebody else has the same

427
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struggle and you carry on so that you

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can resolve to help each other

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to challenge each other forward

430
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right

431
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so for instance

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on a simple basis

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television is like the thief of our

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minds isn't it

435
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well we've struggled with television all

436
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our lives

437
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my wife and me because we grew up about

438
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six inches away from a screen

439
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right

440
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so we didn't have one for years and

441
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years and then we got one we thought

442
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well

443
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we can handle it we'll just watch

444
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educational tv

445
00:17:45.520 --> 00:17:47.590
well before you know it wrestling

446
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was the thing

447
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that was it

448
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right

449
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those little fellas sure can go look at

450
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them

451
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i'm being ridiculous

452
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you know you see what i'm getting at

453
00:18:03.679 --> 00:18:06.789
it's amazing how your mind will just

454
00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:11.190
go into this vacuous hole of nothingness

455
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and stay there and enjoy it

456
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right

457
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and so

458
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i talked to a brother who has the same

459
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problem this week

460
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and i said look i regret it and by the

461
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way over the years we flipped about six

462
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televisions none of which we ever bought

463
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they were all given to us every time

464
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and in the condominium townhouse complex

465
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where we where we live cable comes free

466
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of charge

467
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so there is free access to sin that's

468
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what it is

469
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it's freely available

470
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so what we're doing when we go home

471
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this is what we are going to do

472
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is to unplug things

473
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we're not going to get rid of it

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completely because there are little we

475
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don't want to deny the children

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completely their little children's

477
00:19:01.039 --> 00:19:03.750
videos and their children's bible videos

478
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and their children's educational videos

479
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that they see on a very tightly rationed

480
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basis it's not the children that have

481
00:19:09.679 --> 00:19:10.950
the problem

482
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and it's not so much the wife it's the

483
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husband that has the television problem

484
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so then this is a struggle

485
00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:23.990
but i shared it with a friend

486
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and it was embarrassing because there

487
00:19:25.760 --> 00:19:28.870
were embarrassing aspects to the problem

488
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and we talked it through

489
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and he and i worked together and said

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look this is these are the steps that we

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shall take

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and we're going to do it he will hold me

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to it

494
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and i will hold him to it likewise

495
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so there is where the internal struggle

496
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is externalized not to blame and to

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project onto other people

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and to create strife and to allow us to

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avoid our problem to focus in and

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manufacture

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and explode

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and make larger other people's problems

503
00:20:01.679 --> 00:20:03.190
but we share it and we get it out so

504
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that we can say all right

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this is a problem that i have and you

506
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know brothers and sisters there are

507
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problems that are crushing internal

508
00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:12.149
burdens

509
00:20:12.159 --> 00:20:14.789
it have to do with the lust of the flesh

510
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the lust of the eyes and the pride of

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life

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there is no problem that is so

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humiliating and so back-breaking and

514
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prostrating

515
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you can't find somebody to share it with

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that is a fact of life

517
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just find the right person

518
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don't do it with the wrong person

519
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in the truth we've got to be aware of

520
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the fact

521
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that there are certain kinds of problems

522
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that certain people cannot handle

523
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they can't bear up under that

524
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so find the people that you can confide

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in

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and brethren and sisters that people

527
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confide in

528
00:21:00.080 --> 00:21:03.270
understand what confidence is

529
00:21:03.280 --> 00:21:05.590
understand in our culture how difficult

530
00:21:05.600 --> 00:21:07.909
it is to share problems

531
00:21:07.919 --> 00:21:10.070
and how much damage you do

532
00:21:10.080 --> 00:21:11.990
when you take a problem that is brought

533
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to you privately

534
00:21:13.919 --> 00:21:15.750
and you carry it about the place

535
00:21:15.760 --> 00:21:18.230
elsewhere

536
00:21:18.240 --> 00:21:20.149
when it comes to problems there are

537
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certain problems that a sister will come

538
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to your wife with

539
00:21:26.320 --> 00:21:28.710
that she cannot tell you about

540
00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:30.630
accept that brother

541
00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:32.549
it is the way it must be

542
00:21:32.559 --> 00:21:35.669
there are certain kinds of problems

543
00:21:35.679 --> 00:21:38.549
that brethren will come to you with

544
00:21:38.559 --> 00:21:41.110
that you cannot share with your wife

545
00:21:41.120 --> 00:21:42.870
and there are certain kinds of problems

546
00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:43.750
which

547
00:21:43.760 --> 00:21:46.390
are so awful

548
00:21:46.400 --> 00:21:48.070
that it is as if

549
00:21:48.080 --> 00:21:50.390
there is an automatic mechanism

550
00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:51.750
in your mind

551
00:21:51.760 --> 00:21:54.070
that will actually make you forget the

552
00:21:54.080 --> 00:21:55.669
problem

553
00:21:55.679 --> 00:21:58.070
after you have prayed about it

554
00:21:58.080 --> 00:22:00.549
subsequent to speaking to the individual

555
00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:03.029
and you you actually forget you forget

556
00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:04.789
somebody came to you with that

557
00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:06.870
particular problem and you'll find they

558
00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:08.789
will come to you another time

559
00:22:08.799 --> 00:22:10.310
and you've forgotten that they talked to

560
00:22:10.320 --> 00:22:11.590
you about that issue whatever it may

561
00:22:11.600 --> 00:22:13.510
have been

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you're the study day for instance and

563
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you have five minutes to prepare for the

564
00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:17.990
next talk

565
00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:19.669
and a young man comes up to you and says

566
00:22:19.679 --> 00:22:22.149
uncle dev i think i have aids

567
00:22:22.159 --> 00:22:23.350
what do you do

568
00:22:23.360 --> 00:22:24.870
you only have five minutes to prepare i

569
00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:26.630
know some of my talks may

570
00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:28.549
sound as if i only took five minutes to

571
00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:30.070
prepare them

572
00:22:30.080 --> 00:22:32.310
it isn't true it's about 10 or 12 or 15

573
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minutes

574
00:22:34.559 --> 00:22:36.390
but

575
00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:38.310
what do you do

576
00:22:38.320 --> 00:22:39.909
well there there are god's people you

577
00:22:39.919 --> 00:22:41.990
have to speak to them but there is this

578
00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:47.270
child this child this boy

579
00:22:47.280 --> 00:22:49.270
and

580
00:22:49.280 --> 00:22:50.630
this is the problem that's come to you

581
00:22:50.640 --> 00:22:52.230
what are you going to do

582
00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:54.789
you're laid all aside god this is god's

583
00:22:54.799 --> 00:22:55.590
work

584
00:22:55.600 --> 00:22:57.750
somehow he'll take the little

585
00:22:57.760 --> 00:22:59.270
nothing in your head and tie together

586
00:22:59.280 --> 00:23:01.110
all the rubber bands and make the

587
00:23:01.120 --> 00:23:03.190
hamster run on the circle on the inside

588
00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:06.230
and something will crunch out

589
00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:07.830
because there's something of what you've

590
00:23:07.840 --> 00:23:10.390
learned in your head

591
00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:12.390
you listen and

592
00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:15.190
you try to encourage as best you can

593
00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:17.510
more than anything else i suppose you

594
00:23:17.520 --> 00:23:20.230
have learned that i am just learning in

595
00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:21.590
the truth

596
00:23:21.600 --> 00:23:23.430
in helping

597
00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:24.950
more than anything else

598
00:23:24.960 --> 00:23:26.310
you have learned

599
00:23:26.320 --> 00:23:27.830
you cannot solve

600
00:23:27.840 --> 00:23:29.510
people's problems

601
00:23:29.520 --> 00:23:31.350
you can just give them the tools to hold

602
00:23:31.360 --> 00:23:32.230
on

603
00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:34.549
and to get support

604
00:23:34.559 --> 00:23:36.870
from those that are around them

605
00:23:36.880 --> 00:23:39.430
so there were wars there were strivings

606
00:23:39.440 --> 00:23:41.510
and fightings that were taking place

607
00:23:41.520 --> 00:23:43.110
in the ecclesia

608
00:23:43.120 --> 00:23:44.630
there was the war that was going on

609
00:23:44.640 --> 00:23:47.430
inside of the bodies of the men

610
00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:49.510
who were fighting in the ecclesia

611
00:23:49.520 --> 00:23:51.909
and they were losing those internal wars

612
00:23:51.919 --> 00:23:54.789
so they externalize the wars fight fight

613
00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:56.390
striving

614
00:23:56.400 --> 00:23:58.950
pull groups of people after each other

615
00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:01.750
you lust and have not

616
00:24:01.760 --> 00:24:03.830
you kill

617
00:24:03.840 --> 00:24:06.390
desire to have and cannot obtain so you

618
00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:08.789
fight and strive

619
00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:12.470
that's the way the next passage reads

620
00:24:12.480 --> 00:24:16.070
tremendous thing you know

621
00:24:16.080 --> 00:24:18.630
you can look at that term ye kill

622
00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:20.950
and say to yourself well according to

623
00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:22.870
john and the lord himself

624
00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:27.190
whoever hates his brother is a murderer

625
00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:27.909
but

626
00:24:27.919 --> 00:24:29.430
brother neville smart in his wonderful

627
00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:31.430
commentary it is republished now it is

628
00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:34.230
available to the chrysodelphian office

629
00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:37.190
he points out the fact that well

630
00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:38.870
everything

631
00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:40.950
around that word kill

632
00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:43.909
seems to imply hostility anger and

633
00:24:43.919 --> 00:24:47.190
violence the word strivings fightings

634
00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:49.029
actually has

635
00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:52.070
the implied meaning of people striking

636
00:24:52.080 --> 00:24:53.830
each other

637
00:24:53.840 --> 00:24:55.830
and this is what happened this what was

638
00:24:55.840 --> 00:24:56.870
happening

639
00:24:56.880 --> 00:24:59.590
in the ecclesias in some equations

640
00:24:59.600 --> 00:25:03.350
people were actually hitting each other

641
00:25:03.360 --> 00:25:05.110
now there were some people that came

642
00:25:05.120 --> 00:25:06.789
into the truth

643
00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:08.630
and you will recall from ii peter

644
00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:09.909
chapter 2

645
00:25:09.919 --> 00:25:12.710
13 to 14

646
00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:14.230
we'll go there and take a look at that

647
00:25:14.240 --> 00:25:16.789
second peter chapter 2 13-14 just look

648
00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:19.190
at the attitude of mind that some people

649
00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:21.350
had that came into the truth and became

650
00:25:21.360 --> 00:25:27.430
influential in the ecclesiastes

651
00:25:27.440 --> 00:25:28.870
they shall receive the reward of

652
00:25:28.880 --> 00:25:30.789
unrighteousness as they that counted

653
00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:34.230
pleasure to riot in the daytime

654
00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:36.070
they run riot in the daytime they go and

655
00:25:36.080 --> 00:25:39.750
they live unholy loose lives in the

656
00:25:39.760 --> 00:25:41.909
daytime that was particularly shameful

657
00:25:41.919 --> 00:25:43.669
because if people were going to run riot

658
00:25:43.679 --> 00:25:45.029
they were going to do it in the night

659
00:25:45.039 --> 00:25:46.070
time

660
00:25:46.080 --> 00:25:47.590
but there were brethren that were so

661
00:25:47.600 --> 00:25:50.070
brazen and so open in

662
00:25:50.080 --> 00:25:51.750
their foolishness that

663
00:25:51.760 --> 00:25:54.549
they ran riot shameful though it was

664
00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:55.750
in itself

665
00:25:55.760 --> 00:26:02.149
even in the broad daylight

666
00:26:02.159 --> 00:26:04.950
spots they are and blemishes

667
00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:08.149
reveling in their love feasts while they

668
00:26:08.159 --> 00:26:10.390
feast with you having eyes full of

669
00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:13.430
adultery and that cannot cease from sin

670
00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:16.549
beguiling unstable souls and heart they

671
00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:20.149
have exercised with covetous practices

672
00:26:20.159 --> 00:26:23.430
cursed children which have forsaken the

673
00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:25.750
right way and are gone astray following

674
00:26:25.760 --> 00:26:28.870
the way of balaam the son of bozo who

675
00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:33.269
loved the wages of wrongdoing

676
00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:34.470
so there were brethren that were

677
00:26:34.480 --> 00:26:35.909
influential

678
00:26:35.919 --> 00:26:38.390
in the ecclesiastes

679
00:26:38.400 --> 00:26:40.470
that were leading people astray and out

680
00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:41.990
of the truth

681
00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:45.669
that came into this into the flock

682
00:26:45.679 --> 00:26:47.190
and became people that were there to

683
00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:50.070
fleece the flock to get what they could

684
00:26:50.080 --> 00:26:52.549
not just from their pockets

685
00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:54.870
but apparently and sadly also from their

686
00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:56.950
bodies

687
00:26:56.960 --> 00:26:58.630
from their lives to from their from

688
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:00.870
their hearts

689
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:03.510
eyes full of adultery

690
00:27:03.520 --> 00:27:05.430
fleshly minded brethren

691
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:08.310
john talks about about diotrophies who

692
00:27:08.320 --> 00:27:10.070
loveth to have the preeminence to be

693
00:27:10.080 --> 00:27:13.909
lifted up above everyone else

694
00:27:13.919 --> 00:27:16.390
these were some of the people that came

695
00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:19.190
into the truth at these times

696
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:21.830
and so

697
00:27:21.840 --> 00:27:24.230
you can see that there were some serious

698
00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:25.510
problems

699
00:27:25.520 --> 00:27:28.870
that existed in the earliest occlusions

700
00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:30.549
we might think that the problems we have

701
00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:33.029
today might mark us off as being the

702
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:35.190
worst generation that has ever existed

703
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:37.830
in the truth that's not so it simply is

704
00:27:37.840 --> 00:27:39.830
not true

705
00:27:39.840 --> 00:27:41.830
we are struggling with problems that the

706
00:27:41.840 --> 00:27:50.630
ecclesias have always had

707
00:27:50.640 --> 00:27:53.350
together of men and women with sin in

708
00:27:53.360 --> 00:27:55.430
the flesh have always had to wrestle

709
00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:57.909
with they have always been doctrinal

710
00:27:57.919 --> 00:28:01.029
wranglings and problems it is addressed

711
00:28:01.039 --> 00:28:04.710
in paul's letters in peter's letters and

712
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:06.710
right here in james

713
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:08.710
it it is it is a fact

714
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:11.590
there have always been moral problems

715
00:28:11.600 --> 00:28:14.630
paul deals with it in corinthians

716
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:16.710
these problems have always existed

717
00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:19.669
they've not just been problems that have

718
00:28:19.679 --> 00:28:22.870
afflicted our generation

719
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:25.750
all generations have had these problems

720
00:28:25.760 --> 00:28:27.430
and so if we see ourselves in the

721
00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:30.310
broader context of the overall history

722
00:28:30.320 --> 00:28:32.230
of the ecclesia

723
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:35.110
you know the kind of time period that

724
00:28:35.120 --> 00:28:37.830
brother michael has been so simply and

725
00:28:37.840 --> 00:28:40.789
effectively presenting to everyone

726
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:43.350
all through the ages the ecclesia has

727
00:28:43.360 --> 00:28:46.710
had these kinds of problems

728
00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:48.630
so then

729
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:52.070
when anger ramped up

730
00:28:52.080 --> 00:28:54.549
when covetousness got out of control

731
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:58.070
when a controlling mentality

732
00:28:58.080 --> 00:28:59.990
came in the face of some kind of

733
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:01.909
stubborn obstacle

734
00:29:01.919 --> 00:29:03.909
a murder actually may have taken place

735
00:29:03.919 --> 00:29:05.510
in the brotherhood

736
00:29:05.520 --> 00:29:07.590
peter says if any of you suffer as an

737
00:29:07.600 --> 00:29:10.070
evil doer as a murderer

738
00:29:10.080 --> 00:29:11.830
the implication being that it was

739
00:29:11.840 --> 00:29:13.430
possible that brethren could have

740
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:15.990
committed murder

741
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:19.029
and i know sometimes brethren when they

742
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:20.310
get into their scraps and their

743
00:29:20.320 --> 00:29:21.590
strivings

744
00:29:21.600 --> 00:29:23.269
look at each other like they could kill

745
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:25.029
each other sometimes

746
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:27.510
you feel you feel you feel it

747
00:29:27.520 --> 00:29:30.070
right you feel it as you see brethren at

748
00:29:30.080 --> 00:29:33.190
loggerheads there's an anger there's a

749
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:35.990
violence under the surface

750
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:37.750
that human nature

751
00:29:37.760 --> 00:29:40.789
is so sadly prone to

752
00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:43.990
all right then brothers and sisters

753
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:47.590
this is the state of existence he says

754
00:29:47.600 --> 00:29:50.230
ye adulterers and adulteresses know ye

755
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:51.669
not that the friendship of the world is

756
00:29:51.679 --> 00:29:53.990
enmity with god

757
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:57.590
so they were part of the bride of christ

758
00:29:57.600 --> 00:30:00.870
she that is to be married to the groom

759
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:02.230
and so they were they were not

760
00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:04.710
adulterers and adulteresses the text

761
00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:07.909
actually says ye adulteresses all

762
00:30:07.919 --> 00:30:09.350
translations

763
00:30:09.360 --> 00:30:11.430
other than the av will tell you ye

764
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:13.190
adulteresses

765
00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:14.389
not referring to the women of the

766
00:30:14.399 --> 00:30:15.830
congregation but the men and women

767
00:30:15.840 --> 00:30:18.070
together as the bride of christ

768
00:30:18.080 --> 00:30:20.710
who are being unfaithful to their god

769
00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:23.029
the adulteress is don't you know that

770
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:24.630
the friendship of the world is enmity

771
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:25.990
with god

772
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:28.630
so for some reason

773
00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:32.149
worldly tendencies and ways of dealing

774
00:30:32.159 --> 00:30:35.430
with strife and life

775
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:37.430
for being

776
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:39.430
the things that were

777
00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:40.789
acted out

778
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:43.430
in the ecclesia

779
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:45.510
we could look at proof passages but we

780
00:30:45.520 --> 00:30:46.870
must get through to the end of this

781
00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:48.710
chapter

782
00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:52.310
so so there it was as john tells us

783
00:30:52.320 --> 00:30:53.750
love of the world

784
00:30:53.760 --> 00:30:55.990
is enmity with god

785
00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:59.350
worldly worldly ways of striving and

786
00:30:59.360 --> 00:31:01.750
fighting which go counter to the

787
00:31:01.760 --> 00:31:04.710
description of the wise man we read

788
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:07.110
back at the end of chapter 3 who is

789
00:31:07.120 --> 00:31:08.710
peaceable

790
00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:11.430
peaceful and gentle doesn't want to be

791
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:12.950
fighting and striving and yelling and

792
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:14.789
shouting and screaming like you and i

793
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:16.149
and we all have

794
00:31:16.159 --> 00:31:21.990
fallen prey to at some point in time

795
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:23.750
friendship of the world

796
00:31:23.760 --> 00:31:25.830
is enmity with god

797
00:31:25.840 --> 00:31:28.070
brethren

798
00:31:28.080 --> 00:31:29.669
we can sometimes think well all right

799
00:31:29.679 --> 00:31:32.230
then that that applies to fleshly

800
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:35.430
thinking we don't come in and live our

801
00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:37.269
lives in the ecclesia or run the

802
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:40.950
ecclesia in a fleshly way

803
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:42.470
and yet

804
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:43.830
it's a funny thing

805
00:31:43.840 --> 00:31:46.389
if we are in business or if we are in

806
00:31:46.399 --> 00:31:48.070
management

807
00:31:48.080 --> 00:31:49.909
how do we find ourselves

808
00:31:49.919 --> 00:31:51.430
tending to work

809
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:54.070
in an ecclesial board

810
00:31:54.080 --> 00:31:56.870
do we not fall prey to management

811
00:31:56.880 --> 00:31:58.549
technique

812
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:01.590
ways of delegating tasks all right this

813
00:32:01.600 --> 00:32:03.509
is the way we'll organize things you

814
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:05.350
will work on this well get that young

815
00:32:05.360 --> 00:32:06.870
brother he doesn't do anything to work

816
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:07.909
on that

817
00:32:07.919 --> 00:32:10.310
this is how we will organize it

818
00:32:10.320 --> 00:32:12.149
then you get two management brethren

819
00:32:12.159 --> 00:32:14.470
together locking horns because they have

820
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:17.590
different styles of worldly management

821
00:32:17.600 --> 00:32:19.909
from their businesses it's coming from

822
00:32:19.919 --> 00:32:22.630
their business into the into the board

823
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:25.110
bibles are close enough to a corner

824
00:32:25.120 --> 00:32:26.070
right

825
00:32:26.080 --> 00:32:28.470
happens in myoclesia

826
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.750
we all do it

827
00:32:31.760 --> 00:32:33.990
and yet

828
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:35.669
we all know in our hearts we have got to

829
00:32:35.679 --> 00:32:37.190
learn to listen to each other and work

830
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.990
together not in this managerial way

831
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.549
we're not managing the ecclesia we are

832
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:46.149
serving god and caring for the ecclesia

833
00:32:46.159 --> 00:32:48.389
and serving for the serving the ecclesia

834
00:32:48.399 --> 00:32:50.710
in the process that's what we're doing

835
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:52.630
but we act like we're managing the

836
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:54.710
ecclesia sometimes

837
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:56.389
and yes there are there are brethren

838
00:32:56.399 --> 00:32:58.149
that will shake their heads and say to

839
00:32:58.159 --> 00:32:59.830
themselves yes

840
00:32:59.840 --> 00:33:02.389
brethren on the body the good black eyes

841
00:33:02.399 --> 00:33:05.029
good the brother dev is doing that

842
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:06.710
when i put it to you brother that you in

843
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:10.230
the same shoes would be worse

844
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:11.990
right

845
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:13.669
the same brethren that are continually

846
00:33:13.679 --> 00:33:16.549
chafing against the board the board and

847
00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:18.230
how it does things and the board is this

848
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:19.990
and the borders that are terrible and

849
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:21.909
who do they think they are they never

850
00:33:21.919 --> 00:33:24.149
tell us anything all these all these

851
00:33:24.159 --> 00:33:25.909
kinds of foolish

852
00:33:25.919 --> 00:33:28.149
things

853
00:33:28.159 --> 00:33:29.830
then get in there and help with the work

854
00:33:29.840 --> 00:33:31.990
don't criticize

855
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:33.509
somebody was saying to me earlier that

856
00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:34.789
her father had told her i think it was

857
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:36.389
sister ruth rankin

858
00:33:36.399 --> 00:33:38.389
her husband husband

859
00:33:38.399 --> 00:33:40.870
said

860
00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:42.710
not in a pejorative way not in an

861
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:45.269
insulting way but the ecclesia tends to

862
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:47.669
be split into

863
00:33:47.679 --> 00:33:50.470
workers and drones

864
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:52.950
only drones have the time to criticize

865
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:56.870
because the workers are working

866
00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:58.630
but the drones are

867
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:01.350
droning about

868
00:34:01.360 --> 00:34:03.509
finding you know look at that carpet

869
00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:04.950
they got

870
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:07.669
green green

871
00:34:07.679 --> 00:34:09.030
it's horrible

872
00:34:09.040 --> 00:34:10.790
they never asked us

873
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:12.550
they didn't want our opinion oh the

874
00:34:12.560 --> 00:34:14.069
board did it or the of course the

875
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:16.470
managing the managing wives is what it

876
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:19.270
is not the board

877
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:20.950
you can see when he gets to the meeting

878
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:23.109
she's told him what to say

879
00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:24.550
because when you ask him a question he

880
00:34:24.560 --> 00:34:25.669
doesn't know the answer he has to go

881
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:28.230
back home to get it

882
00:34:28.240 --> 00:34:30.629
that's the way it is

883
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:33.349
right

884
00:34:33.359 --> 00:34:35.829
all right brothers and sisters

885
00:34:35.839 --> 00:34:38.790
so then that way of viewing life and

886
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:42.470
fighting we draw into our ecclesial

887
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:43.589
setting

888
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:44.869
right

889
00:34:44.879 --> 00:34:47.190
and we go on and say

890
00:34:47.200 --> 00:34:49.430
so when we're doing that

891
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:50.869
when we're striving that way we're

892
00:34:50.879 --> 00:34:52.950
making ourselves god's enemy we think

893
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:54.950
we're fighting for right

894
00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:57.430
now let me make clear

895
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.310
this is not on points of doctrine

896
00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:03.030
or aspects related to our statement of

897
00:35:03.040 --> 00:35:04.310
faith

898
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.990
which is the summary of what we believe

899
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:10.950
out of scripture itself

900
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:13.750
it is not it is not anything other than

901
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:15.670
the codification

902
00:35:15.680 --> 00:35:17.190
of what we believe

903
00:35:17.200 --> 00:35:20.470
what brings us together as a community

904
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:22.710
but even those kinds of fights

905
00:35:22.720 --> 00:35:23.990
must have

906
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:26.870
a level of decorum

907
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:29.589
must have a level of dignity

908
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:31.829
and decency about them

909
00:35:31.839 --> 00:35:34.310
they cannot be scraps that involve us

910
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:37.349
emotionally giving each other black eyes

911
00:35:37.359 --> 00:35:39.190
so i'm not talking about those issues

912
00:35:39.200 --> 00:35:40.950
i'm talking about the kinds of

913
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:43.750
wranglings and fightings and personality

914
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:46.150
conflicts that occur in our ecclesiastic

915
00:35:46.160 --> 00:35:48.230
when we're doing that and we think we're

916
00:35:48.240 --> 00:35:50.150
standing up for some right silly

917
00:35:50.160 --> 00:35:52.790
principle that is not significant and

918
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:54.150
really the issue we're standing up for

919
00:35:54.160 --> 00:35:56.950
is our ego then we're god's we're acting

920
00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:59.750
as enemies toward our god

921
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:02.230
when we are striving and

922
00:36:02.240 --> 00:36:03.750
hating each other and fighting with each

923
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:04.790
other

924
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:06.230
do you think that the scripture says in

925
00:36:06.240 --> 00:36:07.510
vain

926
00:36:07.520 --> 00:36:09.270
the spirit that dwelleth in us lusters

927
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:12.870
to envy

928
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:18.550
that has been alternatively translated

929
00:36:18.560 --> 00:36:22.069
do you think the scripture says in vain

930
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:24.870
that god

931
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:28.150
jealously yearneth after the spirit that

932
00:36:28.160 --> 00:36:30.870
is in us

933
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:33.670
an interpretation of that being

934
00:36:33.680 --> 00:36:35.510
and and both brother neville smart and

935
00:36:35.520 --> 00:36:38.150
brother alfred norris align in the

936
00:36:38.160 --> 00:36:41.750
translation of that verse

937
00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:43.910
the the interpretation a possible

938
00:36:43.920 --> 00:36:46.069
interpretation being

939
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:50.150
that god yearns after full commitment

940
00:36:50.160 --> 00:36:52.069
from us towards him

941
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:55.670
not this half-hearted divided throughout

942
00:36:55.680 --> 00:36:57.630
this epistle he's talking about

943
00:36:57.640 --> 00:36:59.270
double-mindedness

944
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:01.270
not this double-minded half-hearted

945
00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:03.910
half-fleshly half-spiritual fighting

946
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:06.150
striving kind of

947
00:37:06.160 --> 00:37:09.829
commitment that's not really commitment

948
00:37:09.839 --> 00:37:12.310
when we bring our worldly way of working

949
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:14.390
in the world into our working in the

950
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.950
ecclesia and the striving we're not

951
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:18.870
committed to our god

952
00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:21.829
god yearns after full commitment from us

953
00:37:21.839 --> 00:37:24.150
that's what he wants from us

954
00:37:24.160 --> 00:37:26.069
it's something that we have to all be

955
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:28.710
perpetually working towards in ourselves

956
00:37:28.720 --> 00:37:30.390
is this all right then

957
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:32.390
from a worldly perspective you come in

958
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:34.710
and you want to have worldly honor and

959
00:37:34.720 --> 00:37:36.950
so on in the ecclesia some of you

960
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:38.550
fighting to actually get your brothers

961
00:37:38.560 --> 00:37:40.950
and sisters money

962
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:42.390
now lord willing there isn't that kind

963
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:43.670
of thing in the ecclesial world today

964
00:37:43.680 --> 00:37:46.630
but it may be someplace somewhere

965
00:37:46.640 --> 00:37:50.310
but but he says god giveth more grace

966
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:53.829
god gives a greater grace than a greater

967
00:37:53.839 --> 00:37:56.150
gift or greater reward than anything

968
00:37:56.160 --> 00:37:58.069
that you could fight for in a fleshly

969
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:00.230
way in the ecclesia

970
00:38:00.240 --> 00:38:03.109
he gives better things and he resists

971
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:05.670
the proud and he gives his reward to the

972
00:38:05.680 --> 00:38:07.510
humble

973
00:38:07.520 --> 00:38:09.990
those are the first will be last

974
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:12.710
those that the last will be first

975
00:38:12.720 --> 00:38:14.870
and it is the humble those that humble

976
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:17.190
themselves they weren't born humble they

977
00:38:17.200 --> 00:38:20.069
may not have been baptized humble

978
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:21.829
but they learned

979
00:38:21.839 --> 00:38:24.230
humility

980
00:38:24.240 --> 00:38:26.790
he giveth his grace unto the humble

981
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:29.510
submit yourselves therefore

982
00:38:29.520 --> 00:38:30.870
to god

983
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:33.030
see brethren if if we're humbling

984
00:38:33.040 --> 00:38:36.069
ourselves before our god we won't want

985
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:38.950
to be fighting with our brother

986
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:41.270
it's cause and effect

987
00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:42.790
because what we're doing is we are

988
00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:45.349
resolving the internal conflict it's

989
00:38:45.359 --> 00:38:47.510
always there

990
00:38:47.520 --> 00:38:51.109
but it's a little bit more under control

991
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:53.270
because we are taking

992
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:55.829
those lusts those desires

993
00:38:55.839 --> 00:38:58.630
those things inside of ourselves

994
00:38:58.640 --> 00:39:01.589
and submitting them to god

995
00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:03.430
humble yourselves in the sight of the

996
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:04.630
lord

997
00:39:04.640 --> 00:39:07.510
and he shall lift you up he says to them

998
00:39:07.520 --> 00:39:10.069
verse nine be afflicted mourn and weep

999
00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:11.829
that your laughter be turned to mourning

1000
00:39:11.839 --> 00:39:14.230
and your joy to heaviness i wish we had

1001
00:39:14.240 --> 00:39:16.630
the time to to

1002
00:39:16.640 --> 00:39:18.790
look at passages but i've

1003
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:20.390
prattled on so much we haven't had the

1004
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:22.069
chance to look at these

1005
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:23.670
right

1006
00:39:23.680 --> 00:39:25.270
but this is the language of the day of

1007
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:27.190
atonement

1008
00:39:27.200 --> 00:39:29.589
the jew went before his god

1009
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:31.910
and humbled himself

1010
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:34.870
and thought about his sins he afflicted

1011
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:36.950
his soul it says

1012
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.349
he thought about his sins

1013
00:39:39.359 --> 00:39:41.270
but he didn't bend himself over like a

1014
00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:43.910
bulrush as zaziah 58 says

1015
00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:46.470
he reflected upon himself and what he

1016
00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:49.430
was made of and god's mercy for him

1017
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:50.630
towards him

1018
00:39:50.640 --> 00:39:52.630
and that he was motivated to push

1019
00:39:52.640 --> 00:39:55.589
forward and do for others to strengthen

1020
00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:58.150
the weak to encourage the faint-hearted

1021
00:39:58.160 --> 00:39:59.990
to lift up those

1022
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:01.270
that were

1023
00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:03.670
gasping out their last breath

1024
00:40:03.680 --> 00:40:05.910
in the middle of their tunnel of trial

1025
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:07.270
and difficulty

1026
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:09.190
their tough time

1027
00:40:09.200 --> 00:40:10.630
that's what it is

1028
00:40:10.640 --> 00:40:13.109
we afflict ourselves that we might

1029
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:16.550
humble and quell that battle that is so

1030
00:40:16.560 --> 00:40:17.990
big inside of us

1031
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:20.470
that we can externalize it to create

1032
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:23.190
battles in the ecclesia

1033
00:40:23.200 --> 00:40:24.790
humble yourselves in the sight of the

1034
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:25.670
lord

1035
00:40:25.680 --> 00:40:27.349
speak not evil

1036
00:40:27.359 --> 00:40:29.270
one against another he cannot stop

1037
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:31.589
telling us about our tongues

1038
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:33.030
that's how the strife was expressed

1039
00:40:33.040 --> 00:40:34.950
through tongues that's how the gossip

1040
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:36.790
that broke people's lives and set their

1041
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:39.430
wheel of creative activity on fire

1042
00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:41.670
was expressed through their tongues

1043
00:40:41.680 --> 00:40:44.950
at the beginning he says a man

1044
00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:45.750
that

1045
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:48.069
that is able to control his tongue is a

1046
00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:49.750
mature man

1047
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:51.990
so throughout the epistle he talks about

1048
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:55.109
talking and the tongue

1049
00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:56.790
he that speaketh the evil of his brother

1050
00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:58.390
and judgeth his brother speaketh evil of

1051
00:40:58.400 --> 00:40:59.349
the law

1052
00:40:59.359 --> 00:41:01.750
judges the law but if thou judge the law

1053
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:03.430
thou art not a doer of the law but a

1054
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:05.030
judge

1055
00:41:05.040 --> 00:41:07.270
there is one law giver

1056
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:10.309
god himself and his son the lord who is

1057
00:41:10.319 --> 00:41:13.990
able to save and to destroy who art thou

1058
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:16.470
for judges thy neighbor we're judges to

1059
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:17.589
condemn

1060
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:19.750
to write them off

1061
00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:21.510
to consider and treat someone as

1062
00:41:21.520 --> 00:41:24.790
worthless and of no value

1063
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:26.870
right

1064
00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:29.190
some of us in our hearts and in our

1065
00:41:29.200 --> 00:41:30.470
words

1066
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:34.150
might condemn other brethren that way

1067
00:41:34.160 --> 00:41:36.390
there are editors of magazines not just

1068
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:37.510
the christiadelphi in the christian

1069
00:41:37.520 --> 00:41:40.710
elfin tidings the testimony magazine

1070
00:41:40.720 --> 00:41:42.150
other magazines

1071
00:41:42.160 --> 00:41:44.230
and these are brethren that are under

1072
00:41:44.240 --> 00:41:45.670
extreme

1073
00:41:45.680 --> 00:41:48.950
pressure you're a recording brother

1074
00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:50.630
consider yourself being the recording

1075
00:41:50.640 --> 00:41:52.710
brother for the whole world

1076
00:41:52.720 --> 00:41:54.069
that's what you like

1077
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:55.589
when you're the editor of one of these

1078
00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:57.349
magazines

1079
00:41:57.359 --> 00:41:59.910
now as a recording brother is everybody

1080
00:41:59.920 --> 00:42:01.750
happy with you all the time

1081
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:03.270
who do they go to when they have

1082
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:05.349
something to cop about

1083
00:42:05.359 --> 00:42:06.790
who do they go to

1084
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:08.550
when they're angry about a decision that

1085
00:42:08.560 --> 00:42:10.309
the whole board has made

1086
00:42:10.319 --> 00:42:12.550
who does everyone else call

1087
00:42:12.560 --> 00:42:15.349
to complain to about the direction your

1088
00:42:15.359 --> 00:42:17.270
ecclesia has taken

1089
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:19.109
you the recording brother

1090
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:21.190
and you have a family to raise

1091
00:42:21.200 --> 00:42:23.670
and you have your own children your own

1092
00:42:23.680 --> 00:42:25.510
children giving you their problems as

1093
00:42:25.520 --> 00:42:27.589
they go through the different stages of

1094
00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:29.910
resistance that they go through they

1095
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:31.829
have their own battlefield each has his

1096
00:42:31.839 --> 00:42:34.069
own individual campaign and it's against

1097
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:35.510
his dad and mom

1098
00:42:35.520 --> 00:42:37.910
that's it for a period of time when they

1099
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:40.950
wrestle for their own individuality

1100
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:42.550
so there you are

1101
00:42:42.560 --> 00:42:45.670
recording brother for the world

1102
00:42:45.680 --> 00:42:47.829
editor of a magazine

1103
00:42:47.839 --> 00:42:50.230
a one of our influential magazines

1104
00:42:50.240 --> 00:42:52.390
but you can't write anything

1105
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:54.309
without getting a hornet's nest dropped

1106
00:42:54.319 --> 00:42:55.430
on your head

1107
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:57.430
your children go to a gathering and a

1108
00:42:57.440 --> 00:42:59.030
brother will pull your little daughter

1109
00:42:59.040 --> 00:43:01.190
aside so what is your dad writing in the

1110
00:43:01.200 --> 00:43:03.109
magazine

1111
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:06.309
she's 10 years old she doesn't know

1112
00:43:06.319 --> 00:43:08.710
right or she's 15 or 14.

1113
00:43:08.720 --> 00:43:11.030
what what do you think you're doing but

1114
00:43:11.040 --> 00:43:13.270
i'm my dad's daughter consider the

1115
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:14.870
pressure

1116
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:17.910
that their children are under

1117
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:19.510
and yet we can look at these brethren

1118
00:43:19.520 --> 00:43:22.470
sometimes depending on what our

1119
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:24.230
what our vantage point is and our

1120
00:43:24.240 --> 00:43:26.390
perspective

1121
00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:28.390
and we can write them off and say that

1122
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:30.069
man is a fool

1123
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:32.069
i don't agree with his position

1124
00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:35.510
i've done it myself

1125
00:43:35.520 --> 00:43:37.589
how could that brother conduct himself

1126
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:39.910
in such a way as to be so devious and

1127
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:44.950
underhanded in his practices

1128
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:47.510
but the difficulty came in in sitting

1129
00:43:47.520 --> 00:43:49.430
with him and talking to him face to face

1130
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:50.790
it was different

1131
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:52.829
a different a different mask

1132
00:43:52.839 --> 00:43:56.710
then so brethren and sisters the tongue

1133
00:43:56.720 --> 00:43:58.870
is a difficult thing for us to work with

1134
00:43:58.880 --> 00:43:59.910
isn't it

1135
00:43:59.920 --> 00:44:01.510
and when we judge each other when we

1136
00:44:01.520 --> 00:44:04.390
condemn each other out of hand

1137
00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:06.390
when we write each other off

1138
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:08.790
we're judging ourselves

1139
00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:12.230
with what judgment you judge

1140
00:44:12.240 --> 00:44:14.710
so shall ye be judged

1141
00:44:14.720 --> 00:44:16.790
right

1142
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:18.390
verse 13

1143
00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:19.829
so here they are

1144
00:44:19.839 --> 00:44:21.109
he's talking to people that are

1145
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:23.030
motivated they are doers they do things

1146
00:44:23.040 --> 00:44:27.510
we're late let's bring this to an end

1147
00:44:27.520 --> 00:44:29.270
go to now you rich men that say we're

1148
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:31.349
going to go to this city and do that or

1149
00:44:31.359 --> 00:44:34.069
the other thing look at the cumulative

1150
00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:37.589
strength and impact of the word and and

1151
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:39.190
and and

1152
00:44:39.200 --> 00:44:41.270
go to now ye that say today or tomorrow

1153
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:44.150
we will go into such a city and continue

1154
00:44:44.160 --> 00:44:48.230
their year and buy and sell and get gain

1155
00:44:48.240 --> 00:44:50.390
look at how sure they are in their minds

1156
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:52.069
about what they're going to do

1157
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:54.150
look at the plans that are being made

1158
00:44:54.160 --> 00:44:55.430
and you just need to consider the

1159
00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:57.349
parable of the rich fool

1160
00:44:57.359 --> 00:44:59.750
he was making his and and plans wasn't

1161
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:02.390
he and his life was taken of him

1162
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:04.550
it was just he lost his life

1163
00:45:04.560 --> 00:45:07.589
thou fool

1164
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:09.990
is what he's called

1165
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:12.390
in the parable so brethren

1166
00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:13.990
we're told now

1167
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.630
those of us that are men of business

1168
00:45:16.640 --> 00:45:18.870
and a man of activity we've got to

1169
00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:20.470
recognize that as the rest of the

1170
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:23.910
scripture says our life is just a vapor

1171
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:26.790
that appeareth and vanish away instead

1172
00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:28.790
we ought to say if the lord will not in

1173
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:31.030
a superstitious way you know every time

1174
00:45:31.040 --> 00:45:33.349
well we're going and we're going to open

1175
00:45:33.359 --> 00:45:35.430
a business lord willing and you just say

1176
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.470
it as if it's as if it's just

1177
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:41.030
punctuation to the sentence

1178
00:45:41.040 --> 00:45:43.190
what it's implying is

1179
00:45:43.200 --> 00:45:44.390
god

1180
00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:46.390
and his will

1181
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:48.870
must be involved

1182
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:51.349
in the decisions that we make

1183
00:45:51.359 --> 00:45:54.630
now i understand that mentality

1184
00:45:54.640 --> 00:45:55.910
i'm a doer

1185
00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:58.150
get out and do something make something

1186
00:45:58.160 --> 00:45:59.510
build something

1187
00:45:59.520 --> 00:46:00.790
right

1188
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:02.390
so that's there for me don't feel

1189
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:04.630
condemned as an individual only

1190
00:46:04.640 --> 00:46:06.710
there are many of us in this

1191
00:46:06.720 --> 00:46:09.349
and we are to know that our lives are

1192
00:46:09.359 --> 00:46:11.510
little vapors

1193
00:46:11.520 --> 00:46:13.270
a mist

1194
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:15.270
that vanish

1195
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:17.030
just like that

1196
00:46:17.040 --> 00:46:19.750
so if the lord wills then

1197
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:21.510
maybe what we shall do is this if it's

1198
00:46:21.520 --> 00:46:23.670
in his will now i need to think through

1199
00:46:23.680 --> 00:46:26.069
based on what i know of the lord

1200
00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:28.870
is this the right thing to do

1201
00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:30.069
but now

1202
00:46:30.079 --> 00:46:32.309
you glory in your boastings and all your

1203
00:46:32.319 --> 00:46:35.349
plans your big

1204
00:46:35.359 --> 00:46:37.670
plans that are that are that are

1205
00:46:37.680 --> 00:46:39.589
trundled out verbally so everybody can

1206
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:41.430
hear and be impressed

1207
00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:44.950
all such rejoicing is evil you know

1208
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:46.710
therefore to him that knoweth to do good

1209
00:46:46.720 --> 00:46:48.630
and do with it not

1210
00:46:48.640 --> 00:46:51.030
to him it is sin

1211
00:46:51.040 --> 00:46:53.109
so there you are making your good wise

1212
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:55.510
plans concerning what you are going to

1213
00:46:55.520 --> 00:46:59.670
do in those affairs of life

1214
00:46:59.680 --> 00:47:01.589
but what needs to be done

1215
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:03.270
in the ecclesia

1216
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:06.069
is not getting done

1217
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:07.990
and it puts us in mind the echo is to

1218
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:11.030
the lord's words to the pharisees

1219
00:47:11.040 --> 00:47:14.550
these ought ye to have done

1220
00:47:14.560 --> 00:47:19.750
and not left the other things undone

1221
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:22.510
so then we must be about looking in our

1222
00:47:22.520 --> 00:47:24.790
ecclesiastic figure out

1223
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:43.510
what we ought to be doing

1224
00:47:43.520 --> 00:47:45.599
you